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sriddles@aol.com - 22 Sep 2006 16:51 GMT
Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
prize for the cat tree contest, then decided to raffle it and make a
different one for the photo contest).

Anyway. We took it to the shelter 2 weeks ago to start selling chances,
then was going to take it to the Bark in the Park event Oct. 14 and do
the drawing that day.

Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
tell DH, he worked so hard on it. Do you think maybe it's too big? Or
maybe the rest of the cat-owner population just isn't like us on this
group? I'd really like some input. Don't be afraid of hurting my
feelings or anything. I'm just so puzzled about this.

http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/cattreeprize.jpg

Sherry
Dan M - 22 Sep 2006 17:04 GMT
> Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
> I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
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>
> Sherry

I can't imagine anybody's cats not loving a tree like that. If there was a
way to transport it to California, I'd buy raffle tickets! I really do
believe it's the most impressive cat tree I've seen, and my cats would
love to have it.

Dan
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 22 Sep 2006 17:13 GMT
> > Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
> > I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
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>
> Dan

I would buy tickets too, but I'm thinking it wouldn't fit in my mobile
home/trailer.  It is the loveliest cat tree, and I KNOW my 6.5 (the
half for an inside/outside dump who's declawed - ick - and neutered).

Smokie Darling (Annie)

Who would pay to have their cat neutered and declawed, then just dump
him (he's a beautimous flame point, big mouth and all)?  I wish he
wanted to stay in, but he gets right at the door, and you can't stop
him (believe me, I've tried).  He is such a lovey boy too.  Apparently,
he defends himself well, or he runs really fast.  He isn't beat up at
all, and he's been runnin' for about 8 months.

SD (A)
The Polish-Kraut - 22 Sep 2006 17:22 GMT
>> > Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
>> > I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
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>he defends himself well, or he runs really fast.  He isn't beat up at
>all, and he's been runnin' for about 8 months.

Were talking about the cat tree not neutering and declawing.

Why can't people stick to the topic ?!?!?

Want to talk about something else start another subject !!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Sep 2006 17:50 GMT
>>>>Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
>>>>I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
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>
> Want to talk about something else start another subject !!

Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real
life, conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the
"de-claw" conversation were to continue, someone probably
would move it to another title, but for one or two comments?)
Victor Martinez - 22 Sep 2006 18:54 GMT
> Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real life,
> conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the "de-claw"
> conversation were to continue, someone probably would move it to another
> title, but for one or two comments?)

Please don't feed the trolls. Or post a recipe. :)

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jmcquown - 22 Sep 2006 22:56 GMT
>> Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real life,
>> conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the "de-claw"
>> conversation were to continue, someone probably would move it to
>> another title, but for one or two comments?)
>
> Please don't feed the trolls. Or post a recipe. :)

Oh goodie!  I've been hoping for the opportunity!  Had some lovely wild rice
soup while up in Minnesota.  Here's a recipe for you:

1/4 c. butter
1/4 c. raw wild rice
1/2 c. slivered almonds
1/2 c. diced onions
1/2 c. diced celery
1/2 c. grated carrots
4-1/2 c. chicken or vegetable stock
1/2 tsp. pepper
1 tsp. salt
1 Tbs. chopped fresh parsley
3-4 tsp. cornstarch
2 c. whipping cream

In a deep saucepan, cook the wild rice and almonds in butter for a minute,
then add the onion, celery and carrots and saute for 2-3 minutes or until
the onion is translucent. Add the stock; season with salt & pepper. Cover
and simmer the soup for 1-1/2 hours. Make a slurry with the cornstarch and 1
cup of the whipping cream and gradually stir this into the hot soup to
thicken. Stir in the remaining cream and heat through. Top with chopped
fresh parsley and serve.

Jill
Matthew - 22 Sep 2006 23:23 GMT
Why do you do this to me Jill  you always post a recipe near dinner time
that looks yummy.
You are making me hungry Now I have to go to the store ;-)

>>> Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real life,
>>> conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the "de-claw"
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>
> Jill
jmcquown - 24 Sep 2006 18:39 GMT
> Why do you do this to me Jill  you always post a recipe near dinner
> time that looks yummy.
>  You are making me hungry Now I have to go to the store ;-)

My apologies - I don't check the clock when I post recipes in response to
trolls! :)

Jill

>>>> Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real life,
>>>> conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the "de-claw"
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>>
>> Jill
Matthew - 24 Sep 2006 18:41 GMT
I still love you ;-)

>> Why do you do this to me Jill  you always post a recipe near dinner
>> time that looks yummy.
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>>>
>>> Jill
Kreisleriana - 23 Sep 2006 01:33 GMT
>>> Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real life,
>>> conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the "de-claw"
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>
>Jill

That looks yummy!  I have to look around now for some wild rice.

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MaryL - 23 Sep 2006 01:49 GMT
>>> Why?  We're (mostly) all friends here, and just like in real life,
>>> conversations drift from subject to subject.  (If the "de-claw"
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>
> Jill

This really sounds good.  I do not eat rice because I have diabetes, but
wild rice is actually a seed.  I may try this one and see if it affects my
glucose levels.  I would like to look at the glycemic index, but the copy I
have only shows rice andnot wild rice.

MaryL
Victor Martinez - 23 Sep 2006 02:19 GMT
> This really sounds good.  I do not eat rice because I have diabetes, but
> wild rice is actually a seed.  I may try this one and see if it affects my
> glucose levels.  I would like to look at the glycemic index, but the copy I
> have only shows rice andnot wild rice.

According to http://www.glycemicindex.com/ it's 57.

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MaryL - 23 Sep 2006 02:29 GMT
>> This really sounds good.  I do not eat rice because I have diabetes, but
>> wild rice is actually a seed.  I may try this one and see if it affects
>> my glucose levels.  I would like to look at the glycemic index, but the
>> copy I have only shows rice andnot wild rice.
>
> According to http://www.glycemicindex.com/ it's 57.

Thanks, Victor.  I had used that site in the past but "misplaced" it.

MaryL
Tish - 23 Sep 2006 03:09 GMT
>This really sounds good.  I do not eat rice because I have diabetes, but
>wild rice is actually a seed.  I may try this one and see if it affects my
>glucose levels.  I would like to look at the glycemic index, but the copy I
>have only shows rice andnot wild rice.
>
>MaryL

Hi Mary,

from http://www.glycemicindex.com/ they have a regularly-updated
searchable database and a really good explanation of GI and GL
(glycemic load)

Low GI = 55 or less
Medium GI = 56 - 69
High GI = 70 or more

Low GL = 10 or less
Medium GL = 11- 19
High GL = 20 or more

Low GL < 80
High GL > 120

Saskatchewan wild rice (Canada)      GI=57      serve(g)=150
carbs/serve(g)=29.1      glycemic load=16.6

So it looks like, by any measure, wild rice has a medium GI - higher
than regular white rice and basmati rice, but a substantially lower
GL.

White rice, type not specified, boiled (Canada)      GI=51
serve(g)=150      carbs/serve(g)=42      glycemic load=21.4
Basmati rice, white, boiled      GI=58      serve(g)=150
carbs/serve(g)=42      glycemic load=24.4

Tish
MaryL - 23 Sep 2006 03:12 GMT
>>This really sounds good.  I do not eat rice because I have diabetes, but
>>wild rice is actually a seed.  I may try this one and see if it affects my
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>
> Tish

Thanks, Tish.  Great information!

MaryL
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 23 Sep 2006 03:56 GMT
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> This really sounds good.  I do not eat rice because I have diabetes, but
> wild rice is actually a seed.

This is actually a botany question. If wild rice is a seed, then what
is regular rice?

Joyce
Tish - 23 Sep 2006 04:03 GMT
> [snipped recipe]
>
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>
>Joyce

No real difference.  Both are cereals (grass relatives), so the grain
of both are seeds.  They are completely unrelated plants though.  They
are in the same plant family (Poaceae), but different genera (Zizania
- wild rice, and Oryza - regular rice)

Wikipedia on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizania

Tish
Joy - 23 Sep 2006 06:00 GMT
>> [snipped recipe]
>>
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>
> Tish

I had forgotten you were a botanist, Tish!  How is everyone in your
household, both two and four legged, doing?  I still think it's so amazing
that you can go bush-walking in your own back yard.

Joy
Tish - 26 Sep 2006 05:31 GMT
>I had forgotten you were a botanist, Tish!  How is everyone in your
>household, both two and four legged, doing?  I still think it's so amazing
>that you can go bush-walking in your own back yard.
>
>Joy

Not a botanist, but adept at googling!

Sorry for the silence.  We have had a power blackout for the last 3
days and its only just back on-line (one of the drawbacks of not
living in the suburbs!).

Of course, one of the first things I do is to check RPCA.  Me,
addicted?  Never!

Tish
MaryL - 23 Sep 2006 04:05 GMT
> [snipped recipe]
>
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>
> Joyce

Good question, and one that I really can't answer adequately.  However, for
nutritional purposes, I think rice is usually included among grains.
Certainly, I found a significant difference on my glucose meter when I eat
grains as contrasted with seeds.

MaryL
Adrian A - 22 Sep 2006 18:41 GMT
>>>> Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even
>>>> one. I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and
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>
> Want to talk about something else start another subject !!

Who are you you tell people what to post?
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Sep 2006 20:25 GMT
> Who would pay to have their cat neutered and declawed, then just dump
> him (he's a beautimous flame point, big mouth and all)?  I wish he
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>
> SD (A)

LOL, I bet he is like Frank. Frank can run like a rabbit. Either that
or he's *very* tough with his back feet and teeth. I can't figure
people either, Annie. I've about stopped trying. :-)

Sherry
Denise Clere - 22 Sep 2006 17:21 GMT
well shoot,i do'nt know where you live,but if i could get it here to FL,,i'd
buy it from you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry
Stormmee - 22 Sep 2006 17:24 GMT
*delurk maybe you need to advertise it more... put it on Craig's list and
see if you can get some local free psa spots from radio... Lee*relurk
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 22 Sep 2006 17:36 GMT
> Anyway. We took it to the shelter 2 weeks ago to start selling chances,
> then was going to take it to the Bark in the Park event Oct. 14 and do
> the drawing that day.

> Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
> I can't imagine what is wrong.

Wow, that is a real disappointment! :(  I mean, a raffle ticket isn't
exactly a huge investment. It's not as though you're asking anyone to
buy it outright.

But I'm wondering if you're offering this prize to the wrong group of
people. Isn't this a dog event? Maybe most of them don't have cats.

Is there a local cat-oriented organization where you might sell raffle
tickets? You could then donate the proceeds to their org.

The cat tree is large, but if there are enough people in your area
with large homes, then someone should have space for it!

Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Sep 2006 17:44 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/cattreeprize.jpg

It DOES look pretty big - maybe folks were just worried
about how they'd get it home if they won it?  It looks
terrific, otherwise - I can imagine a fair-sized family of
cats having fantastic romps on it!  (It would certainly cost
a great deal of money if they were to buy one in a pet store.)

> Sherry
Lisa Katt - 22 Sep 2006 18:22 GMT
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) skrev i meddelandet ...

>> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
>> for the raffle prize?
<snip>
It DOES look pretty big - maybe folks were just worried
>about how they'd get it home if they won it?  It looks
>terrific, otherwise - I can imagine a fair-sized family of
>cats having fantastic romps on it!  (It would certainly cost
>a great deal of money if they were to buy one in a pet store.)

It looks like a wonderful cat tree.
If anyone is worried about how to get it home - could you include delivery
for the winner?
Elisabet
jmcquown - 22 Sep 2006 22:58 GMT
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) skrev i meddelandet ...
>>
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> delivery for the winner?
> Elisabet

With all the pickup trucks out there, I truly doubt getting it home would be
an issue.  Maybe the raffle isn't being properly promoted by the shelter
staff.  Maybe people are walking right past it without realizing it's a
raffle item?  It sure is gorgeous.

Jill
Karen - 22 Sep 2006 17:54 GMT
I can't believe that!! No, really I can't! Maybe it is because you have pics
at the shelter. I'm thinking you need to let the population that already
*has* pets look at it and buy tickets. YOu know put up pics at grocery
stores etc. My God, people are nuts to not try for it.

> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry
Gabey8 - 22 Sep 2006 19:30 GMT
[[I can't believe that!! No, really I can't! Maybe it is because you have
pics at the shelter. I'm thinking you need to let the population that
already *has* pets look at it and buy tickets. YOu know put up pics at
grocery stores etc. My God, people are nuts to not try for it.]]

If you were in Philadelphia, I'd suggest that you post ads at the two
cats-only veterinary practices I know about (including the one where I
take my cats).

But maybe vets' offices are an additional venue to advertise in, cats-only
or not. Ditto pet stores, especially the big ones like PetSmart and Petco
that try to benefit local animal shelters.

You can offer raffle tix on eBay, too :); just make it a dutch auction and
stipulate that the winner must pay shipping costs or pick it up in
person.

Donna, Captain, and Stanley
MaryL - 22 Sep 2006 20:20 GMT
>I can't believe that!! No, really I can't! Maybe it is because you have
>pics
> at the shelter. I'm thinking you need to let the population that already
> *has* pets look at it and buy tickets. YOu know put up pics at grocery
> stores etc. My God, people are nuts to not try for it.

Yes!  Also, contact the local newspaper and see if they would donate space
for an advertisement.  Better yet, see if they would run an article int he
paper about the raffle and the worthy purpose it serves.

MaryL
Magic Mood Jeep© - 22 Sep 2006 17:57 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry

Ditto what everyone else has said!  I'd love to have suce a thing, but I
don't know where I'd put it (would take some rearranging!).

And yes, advertise the raffle with local cat groups!  Around here, I would
advertise at the local low-cost spay/neuter clinic, in addition to all the
area vets!
Nanny - 22 Sep 2006 18:04 GMT
That tree is fantastic ! The only reason I can think of is that it's too
fantastic.......it's very large to fit into a house, I think. I do know that
my cats would absolutely love it !

Nanny

> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry

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Marina - 22 Sep 2006 18:05 GMT
> Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
> I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
> tell DH, he worked so hard on it. Do you think maybe it's too big? Or
> maybe the rest of the cat-owner population just isn't like us on this
> group? I'd really like some input. Don't be afraid of hurting my
> feelings or anything. I'm just so puzzled about this.

It's a mystery to me, too. That is such an amazing cat tree. Maybe
people think it's too big? What a shame! I would buy raffles for it, but
I'm a tad too far away. ;o) I know the cats would love it.

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mlbriggs - 22 Sep 2006 18:18 GMT
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:51:33 -0700, sriddles wrote:

> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry

A lot of people just wouldn't have the room for one so large -- I wouldn't.
Perhaps you should market it through a different medium, perhaps "Cat
Fancy"  or some of the other pet magazines.   Do veterinarians have any
advertising space in their offices?   I really looks like kitty heaven.
Best of luck.   MLB
Rhonda - 22 Sep 2006 18:22 GMT
Sherry,

It is a beautiful cat tree.

How much were the tickets?

Someone else pointed out it was going to a dog event, that could be a
big factor. Maybe if the cat people aren't planning to be at Bark in the
Park, they didn't try.

Another factor could be getting it home. It's already assembled and I
know we don't have a vehicle big enough to transport something that large.

Maybe if you made it a raffle at the shelter and say you don't have to
be present to win, and say it will be delivered within a certain mile
radius, or will be delivered for $10 if needed or something like that...

Where was it in the shelter? Was it apparent to everyone who walked in
the door? Maybe make a big banner with happy, smiling cats? One guy
advertises his cat trees with a picture taken straight up with a cat on
the top shelf of the tree, looking straight down, and other pictures
with several cats scattered around on the tree.

Good luck,

Rhonda

> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry
tanada - 23 Sep 2006 01:48 GMT
> Sherry,
>
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>
> Good luck,

Sherry,

Had a thought, you're near Oklahoma City, right?  Take the advertising
there.  I'm sure they have a Usenet site, and you can post a link to the
picture there as well as in any Oklahoma state Usenet groups.  I'd also take
the advertising to Ft Sill and any other places in the area.  For Ft Still,
you'd have to get post permission to advertise, but it would be worth the
effort.

Pam S.
Adrian A - 22 Sep 2006 18:34 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry

I'm amazed, Baggy would love that as I'm sure most cats would.
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Annie Wxill - 22 Sep 2006 18:48 GMT
...  I'd really like some input. Don't be afraid of hurting my
> feelings or anything. I'm just so puzzled about this.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/cattreeprize.jpg
Sherry

I think it's gorgeous.  I especially like that the posts are sisal.  Rosie &
Cinder know that the sisal is theirs to use for scratching and carpet and
wood furniture legs and such are not.  It's hard to find a cat tree that
does not have carpet posts.

The only reason I can think that anyone with a cat would not buy a raffle
ticket is that it might be too big for the space they have.  However, unless
they are living on a boat, they probably could make the space.

Perhaps you should look up cat trees and try to find a similar tree and put
a value on it, such as "valued at $xxx."  I'm sure it is worth several
hundred dollars.

Annie
MaryL - 22 Sep 2006 20:16 GMT
> ...  I'd really like some input. Don't be afraid of hurting my
>> feelings or anything. I'm just so puzzled about this.
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>
> Annie

That is a very good idea.  I bought two cat trees from
www.createacatcondo.com.  They are fantastic trees, and the site is
interactive.  That is, you can design your tree and get an instant price, so
that might help you in establishing a "value" for your raffle.

MaryL
MaryL - 22 Sep 2006 20:13 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry

Sherry, that is really disappointing.  The cat tree looks *fabulous.*  I
think I would post fliers around town with a picture of the cat tree and
information about how the donations would go exclusively for the cat
shelter.  Include a statement that the tree was custom made just for this
purpose.  You might even include an offer to transport the tree to the
winner (within a specified distance).  I think it would also be a good idea
to ask shelter employees and friends to take raffle tickets with them and
try to sell them.

(I'm assuming this is for the cat shelter...I had emergency eye surgery --  
very successful -- two weeks ago and was ordered to have two weeks of bed
rest with *no* reading or use of the computer.  So, I did not see your
original message because this is my first day back online.  I start back to
work on Monday!)

MaryL
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Sep 2006 20:22 GMT
> > Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> > for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> MaryL

Thanks, everyone, for the input. I think you all are right, it is just
too big. We just got carried away. /We have a truck and it's no problem
to deliver it, not at all. Maybe that, and some better advertising
might help. :-/ The poster already says that all proceed go to benefit
the shelter animals directly.

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 22 Sep 2006 20:34 GMT
> Thanks, everyone, for the input. I think you all are right, it is just
> too big. We just got carried away. /We have a truck and it's no problem
> to deliver it, not at all. Maybe that, and some better advertising
> might help. :-/ The poster already says that all proceed go to benefit
> the shelter animals directly.

And advertise it where *cat* people will see it!

(I know, I already said this. Just thought is might be good to repeat
it.)

Joyce
:-)Liz - 22 Sep 2006 23:09 GMT
The cat tree is great! too bad there's not a way to break it down for
shipping, if possible, bet there'd be LOTS!!! of us  that would gladly buy
tickets for a chance to win it!...What price were the raffle tickets? :-)
Liz

> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>
> Sherry
MaryL - 22 Sep 2006 23:28 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Sherry

Sherry, I sent you a message (under the title Ping: Sherry) asking you to
check your email concerning the cat tree.  For some reason, the message did
not appear on my server.  So, I'm repeating the message here "just in case."

MaryL
Yowie - 23 Sep 2006 00:12 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/cattreeprize.jpg

Its a wonderful cat tree and I'd love it. Like others have mentioned "Free
delivery" in large letters might help, because I sure couldn't shift it with
my Corolla.

But another thing to consider is: how much were you raffle tickets? Even
though its a *wonderful* cat tree, I wouldn't have bought one if you were
charging over $2 per ticket. Since no-one has bought one, you can drop the
price if it was too high without disadvantaging anyone who had already
bought on eat a higher price. $1 each or 3 for $2? After all, its not how
many tickets yo sell but how much money you raise, right?

Failing that, Auction it on e-bay (with free delivery in your area) and say
all the money goes to your cat shelter. You might be surprised how much you
get.

Yoiwe
sriddles@aol.com - 23 Sep 2006 00:52 GMT
> > Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> > for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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> Yoiwe

Thanks, Yowie. The tickets are $1 each, or 6 for $5. That's part of the
reason I was so surprised. I thought that was very reasonable. I think
Joyce is right that we're not reaching the cat people. I expected to
sell the most tickets *before* Bark in the Park, since the day of the
event, probably most of the people there will be "dog people." I am
going to (secretly) buy some tickets myself and figure out someone's
name to enter who would like to have it. Just so DH isn't disappointed.
Ooo. That's dishonest isn't it but he just worked so hard on it.
Then again, maybe we're just getting off to a slow start and things
will pick up. I hope so.

Sherry
Sherry
Julie and Sam - 23 Sep 2006 02:25 GMT
> Thanks, Yowie. The tickets are $1 each, or 6 for $5. That's part of the
> reason I was so surprised. I thought that was very reasonable. I think
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> Sherry
> Sherry

Sherry,

I'll buy 12 tickets for a chance to win the cat tree. Now if I win the cat
tree, is there a cat shelter in your area that has a "group play area" that
I could donate it to?  I think my group would love to have it but getting it
to Georgia could be problematic. Besides, I think cats at a shelter would
enjoy it as well.  Send me an address to send a check.

Julie, Hobbes, Sam, Barnabus and Lacey
Stormmee - 23 Sep 2006 14:53 GMT
Six cats are very interested to have this WONDERFUL tree in their home.  I
am trying to figure out where you are with this as I am in central
Illinois.  Bark in the Park is everywhere from Pittsburgh to Clemson U. to
California on October 14 so HELP, are you far from me?

Is there a city I can get to, is it over six foot high?

Thanks,
DH of Lee

> > > Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> > > for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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> Sherry
> Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 23 Sep 2006 15:09 GMT
> Six cats are very interested to have this WONDERFUL tree in their home.  I
> am trying to figure out where you are with this as I am in central
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> Thanks,
> DH of Lee

Oh dear, yes, we are a long ways from you. We are in southern Oklahoma.
If it were *at all* feasible, I'd offer to ship it. But it weighs
approximately a million pounds (it feels like it anyway!) The base is
29 inches, and it's 5.5 feet tall. Too big! What WERE we thinking!
The problem is, our 5 four-legged "quality inspectors" steered us
wrong. They just insisted that "bigger was better."

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 23 Sep 2006 23:36 GMT
>  If it were *at all* feasible, I'd offer to ship it. But it weighs
> approximately a million pounds (it feels like it anyway!) The base is
> 29 inches, and it's 5.5 feet tall. Too big! What WERE we thinking!

Would it be possible to remove some of it to make it smaller, without
causing it to be less structurally sound, or having to take the entire
thing apart? Maybe you could get two smaller ones out of it. Considering
how big it is, the two smaller ones would probably be good-sized for most
cats!

But I like the idea of selling raffle tickets, here and elsewhere, and
having the winner, if he or she is out of the area, donate it to your
shelter. Essentially, this would just be people making donations, unless
someone in your area happened to win, and had a way to get it delivered.

Or, if you don't find a way to raise money with the tree, perhaps you and
your husband could just donate it to the shelter? I think that would be
a wonderful gift - not a waste of his efforts at all.

Joyce
Karen AKA Kajikit - 24 Sep 2006 03:59 GMT
>Oh dear, yes, we are a long ways from you. We are in southern Oklahoma.
> If it were *at all* feasible, I'd offer to ship it. But it weighs
>approximately a million pounds (it feels like it anyway!) The base is
>29 inches, and it's 5.5 feet tall. Too big! What WERE we thinking!
>The problem is, our 5 four-legged "quality inspectors" steered us
>wrong. They just insisted that "bigger was better."

It's a magnificent creation... but looking at it the problem really is
that it's too big to be practical - it's much too heavy to move even
if you could find a place to put it :(
It really belongs in the playroom at a cat shelter, because it looks
like it has room for about twenty felines at once!
(Tessie would go bananas at the sight of it but the answer would have
to be no, no, no because it's just not practical!)
Irulan - 23 Sep 2006 01:00 GMT
good lord, that's a gorgeous cat tree. I only have one cat but I sure would
buy a ticket! Lily would love that cat tree!
Lily & her mama

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> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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> Sherry
tanada - 23 Sep 2006 01:41 GMT
> Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
> for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
> prize for the cat tree contest, then decided to raffle it and make a
> different one for the photo contest).

How much are the tickets, Sherry?  Put me down for ten.  I'll find a way to
get it up here.

Pam S.
Katiri - 23 Sep 2006 12:38 GMT
Sherry,
I'm with Julie and Pam.  Let me know where to buy tickets.  Can't put
that great workmanship to waste nd I know a any cat would love that
tree.
sriddles@aol.com - 23 Sep 2006 14:58 GMT
> Sherry,
> I'm with Julie and Pam.  Let me know where to buy tickets.  Can't put
> that great workmanship to waste nd I know a any cat would love that
> tree.

That is just so nice of you all, it really gave me a boost. I was
getting pretty depressed about this, which is silly I know. A
fundraiser that flops isn't the end of the world. And there *is* still
3 weeks left. (I keep telling myself that). Each board member is
responsible for their own project at Bark in the Park, so there will be
other members' fundraisers there that will make up for it, like the dog
contests, pictures with your dog, the "strut your mutt" walk-a-thon,
the dog prize raffle etc.
Now I"m really going to whine. (you can stop reading now). It seems
like the cats always don't get a fair shake. Originally this thing was
strictly a dog-event, but I thought there were enough cat owners out
there that they ought to at least have some representation. I always
end up being the cat advocate on the board. But There are definitely
more dog people here than cat people, or it seems that way.
It doesn't really matter at the end of the day though, really. All the
proceeds are earmarked for building a better quarantine area. That's
going to benefit the cats as much as as the dogs. So it really doesn't
matter whose project makes the most money.
Anyway, Katiri, if you're still interested, my email is valid. sriddles
at aol dot com.

Thanks
Sherry
Takayuki - 24 Sep 2006 05:03 GMT
>That is just so nice of you all, it really gave me a boost. I was
>getting pretty depressed about this, which is silly I know. A
>fundraiser that flops isn't the end of the world. And there *is* still
>3 weeks left. (I keep telling myself that).

The other posters had good advice, and you had some good ideas too.
It would be a shame if such a terrific creation went for only a couple
of dollars.

Personally, I think I would love having a tree like that, but I might
be hesitant to enter the raffle, because I'd be wondering how I'd get
it home, and I have this odd disinclination towards games of chance,
maybe from back in high school, when I was into statistics and
probability (an old high school acquaintance I hardly knew called me
earlier this year and told me that the thing she always remembered
about me was how I rolled a penny 1000 times on a glass table to see
if it was biased).
sriddles@aol.com - 24 Sep 2006 05:30 GMT
> Personally, I think I would love having a tree like that, but I might
> be hesitant to enter the raffle, because I'd be wondering how I'd get
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> about me was how I rolled a penny 1000 times on a glass table to see
> if it was biased).

Well, *was* it biased?? :-)

You bring up a good point! I have terrible luck with games of
chance/raffles. I don't think I've ever won anything!

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 24 Sep 2006 08:03 GMT
> Personally, I think I would love having a tree like that, but I might
> be hesitant to enter the raffle, because I'd be wondering how I'd get
> it home

But once you did, then that would settle it. You would absolutely *have*
to get a cat. :)

> I have this odd disinclination towards games of chance,
> maybe from back in high school, when I was into statistics and
> probability

You might have heard this already, but I'll tell it just in case.
There's a huge computer conference that happens once a year in Las Vegas
called Comdex. (Do they still have that, btw? I haven't heard anything
at all about it in years.) Basically, all these computer types, including
thousands of software geeks, fill up all the hotels in the city, and more
or less take over the whole town for the week.

During that week, the casinos are totally dead. Geeks know better than
to gamble. They know their math and they know the odds are totally
against them. So the casino owners know that Comdex week is the week
for all their employees to take vacations, etc.

By contrast, the sex industry is booming during that week. :)

Joyce
CATherine - 23 Sep 2006 04:44 GMT
>Now for the terrible part. *No one* has bought a ticket. Not even one.
>I can't imagine what is wrong. I'm really disappointed and didn;t even
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>
>Sherry

My cats would love it, especially Robin. But it is big. Still, if I
were to get it for the cost of a raffle ticket, I would "make" room!
At Pet Smart that would go for $400 easy. Your DH did a wonderful job.

--
CATherine
-L. - 23 Sep 2006 04:57 GMT
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> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/cattreeprize.jpg
>
> Sherry

Sherry I would kill for that thing!! It's awesome!!  You'd think that
at least a rescue group would bid on it....
-L.
annoyed@net.spammers - 24 Sep 2006 01:58 GMT
>Do you all remember I posted two weeks ago about the cat tree DH made
>for the raffle prize? (Originally we were going to use it as first
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>Sherry

It looks like a great tree. I can't tell all the details from the one
perspective shot; from low like that it "looks" as big as the door and I
can't tell if the front piece with the two horizontal sisal wraps can be
used as a ladder to climb to the next level or not. Perhaps a shot taken
from a little more to the side and up a little higher that would capture
more details of the front (ladder?) & rear post/perch, and put it in a
different height perspective with respect to the door.  Posing it with some
kitties enjoying different levels and the enclosed part may help with ticket
promotions too.

Good luck!  Whoever does win it will be a lucky cat!
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