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CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 05:38 GMT For a grieving mother.
You've all read about my daughter, Erin, and her family in the aftermath of Katrina. Their neighborhood was visited by another tragedy today. My youngest granddaughter, Raven's, best friend, a 7 year old, Christine Malone, was run over and killed by my daughter's neighbor right in front of Erin's house. Erin grew up with Tawny, the baby's mother, from the time they were born - they have been best friends for their entire lives. Their two daughters were following in their footsteps - in the same class in school, the same after-school class, always eating and sleeping over at each other's house daily. I know this sounds terrible but I am so grateful that Raven happened to be at another friends house and wasn't there to see it happen or, gawd forbid, be involved in the incident (I won't call it an accident). The drug dealer who did it was pulling out of the driveway FACING THE STREET and still couldn't manage to stay IN the driveway, ran off into the grass and over the sidewalk - rolling over the child's body with his truck. before the ambulance got there, my daughter, who is in her last year of nursing tried to help the baby who was struggling for breath - and then watched her take her last breath just before the ambulance arrived. The child was "officially" pronounced dead after 20 minutes after getting to the hospital. I won't paint the picture of the child's condition as my daughter described it to me - but I am hurting down into my soul that she had to see that. No mother should have to see that, especially when it was a child that practically lived at her house. But as devastated as Erin is, I can't even begin to imagine how Tawny must be feeling tonight.
Please send some purrs and prayers for these families - having already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something even more precious than that.
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Will in New Haven - 10 Sep 2006 05:49 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Hugs, I feel grief with you. However, your daughter would have wanted to be there, to try to save the child. That's why nurses are so special. Someone ought to relieve the culprit of his grief and guilt.
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> CatNipped > > See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Sep 2006 06:03 GMT > Please send some purrs and prayers for these families - having > already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now > losing something even more precious than that. What a terrible tragedy. Purrs and gentle hugs for everyone affected.
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mlbriggs - 10 Sep 2006 06:03 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something > even more precious than that. Tragedy heaped on tragedy......Heartfelt purrs for all! mlb
Matthew - 10 Sep 2006 06:13 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. Catnipped my purrs and prayers are on the way
pmendhall - 10 Sep 2006 06:14 GMT > For a grieving mother. Purrs for the mother and family. Also for your daughter, her family and especially Raven.
Please, make sure that everyone is aware that Raven is suffering too. I had my best friend killed by lightning when I was about Raven's age. I was invited to go to the lake with them, but mom wouldn't let me. For a long time I wondered what would have happened if I had been there. It was a rough couple of years. With everything else that has happened, it might be helpful to see if they can find someone for Raven to talk to, especially if she starts having nightmares.
Purrs for all.
Diane
tension_on_the_wire - 10 Sep 2006 10:39 GMT > > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Diane May I suggest that you do not wait for nightmares. It would be a good idea to have her seen by a therapist skilled in dealing with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? An ounce of protection is worth a pound of cure. I have some experience in this area.
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L. - 10 Sep 2006 06:32 GMT > For a grieving mother. Oh my God, I am so sorry. Please take good care of Raven. She will need as much help as she can get.
-L.
Lois - 10 Sep 2006 06:36 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. Purrs for you, Raven and Christine's family, just to horrible for words
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Yowie - 10 Sep 2006 06:41 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. Purrs for the grieving family & friends. I can't begin to imagine the grief Tawny must feel, but I'm sitting here shedding tears for her anyway.
People wonder why I don't let Cary play in our driveway / front yard, when its really the only outside space we have (we don't have a 'backyard' to speak of). I stopped letting him play out there the day Eve died, and the tragic death of this poor girl, along with another in our own neighbourhood who died in the same way makes my conviction just that much stronger. We don't let kids play on the road, but driveways are nothing more than private roads.
Yowie
mlbriggs - 10 Sep 2006 06:54 GMT >> For a grieving mother. >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Yowie Locally, today. a 2 year old chasing a balloon into the street met a tragic end. That was one of two that happened here today. Purrs for all who grieve.
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Sep 2006 05:12 GMT > > For a grieving mother. > > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Yowie Yowie, I was watching the news tonight and this post of yours immediately came to mind. A 14-year-old on a joyride lost control of his vehicle, ended up in a residential front yard, and killed a boy who lived there. It was not a small child, and he wasn't in the driveway though. I think you are absolutely right not to let Cary play in the front.
Sherry
Helen Miles - 10 Sep 2006 06:46 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Malone, was run over and killed by my daughter's neighbor right in front of > Erin's house.//// How absolutely awful.
Many many purrs and prayers for all those grieving, and especially Erin and Christines Mom.
Helen M
Joy - 10 Sep 2006 07:22 GMT Purrs, hugs and prayers for everyone concerned. What a terrible tragedy - not to say crime!
Joy
> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. Adrian A - 10 Sep 2006 10:44 GMT > For a grieving mother. <snip>
What a terrible tragedy. Purrs just don't seem enough. :-( I hope the scum responsible has been caught and will spend the rest of his life behind bars.
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CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 14:09 GMT >> For a grieving mother. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > responsible has been caught and will spend the rest of his life behind > bars. The main reason I moved out of Louisiana is because scum like that has been doing things like that and getting away with it forever there. The guy who did it lives next door to my daughter - they have been dealing drugs out of that house ever since I moved to Houston in 1991 and in all that time have never been arrested. We're talking about a quite residential neighborhood - not the ghetto - and still the cops look the other way depending on who you're related to or who you know.
The child, Christine Malone for those of you who might want to follow the story on the local news via the 'net, was innocently walking down the sidewalk going to her friend's house (where my granddaughter, Raven, was - thank all the gods that she wasn't at her usual place walking right next to her best friend) and the guy ran off his driveway, into the grass, and completely ran over her with his truck (he wasn't backing out of the driveway, he was facing the child when he did it). The "police" said evidence of DUI was inconclusive and it would take *DAYS* for the tox screen to get back, so I'm smelling the beginnings of a cover-up already.
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Adrian A - 10 Sep 2006 15:02 GMT >>> For a grieving mother. >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > CatNipped I can understand why sometimes people take the law into their own hands. :-(
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Marina - 11 Sep 2006 04:34 GMT >>> For a grieving mother. >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > evidence of DUI was inconclusive and it would take *DAYS* for the tox screen > to get back, so I'm smelling the beginnings of a cover-up already. That is really disgusting. Many purrs for the girl's family.
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polonca12000 - 14 Sep 2006 21:45 GMT >>>For a grieving mother. >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > CatNipped How horrible! First the tragedy, and now it looks like that the one who did it will not only get away with it but will also get every chance to take someone else's life in the future. We are purring for the grieving family, Polonca and Soncek
Micha - 10 Sep 2006 13:06 GMT > For a grieving mother. [Tragic story about a killed child]
We send purrs and prayers to you and the families involved.
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Nan - 10 Sep 2006 13:26 GMT >For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something >even more precious than that. Purrs and prayers are on the way. Tiger and Tigger are sending litterbox offerings to the drug dealer who did it.
Victor Martinez - 10 Sep 2006 13:38 GMT > For a grieving mother. Lots and lots of purrs for everybody.
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kilikini - 10 Sep 2006 15:59 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something > even more precious than that. What an awful tragedy to happen! Purrs to you, your family, and the mother of the girl, for the shortest grief time possible. I am so very sorry, Catnipped!
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Susan M - 10 Sep 2006 16:38 GMT > For a grieving mother. My thoughts are with you all. What an unbelievable loss.
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 10 Sep 2006 16:54 GMT Lori, but I hope you don't mind that I posted your message in another forum where people were trying to find out WHO was killed, and they were getting all confused and thought that it was RAVEN that was run over!!!
The forum is located here: http://www.nola.com/forums/stbtownhall/ and the message thread starts out titled "Child injured/killed?" by someone using the screen name "Trailerman".
Purrs for Christine's family, for Raven & Erin & their family!
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> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now > losing something even more precious than that. CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 17:14 GMT > Lori, but I hope you don't mind that I posted your message in another > forum where people were trying to find out WHO was killed, and they were [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Dirty litterbox (from a litterbox just used by Ping, no less) offerings do > the scumbag that did it! No problem, thanks for doing so - I didn't even know that forum existed much less that the incident was being discussed on it.
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>> For a grieving mother. >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now >> losing something even more precious than that. Magic Mood Jeep© - 10 Sep 2006 17:41 GMT >> Lori, but I hope you don't mind that I posted your message in another >> forum where people were trying to find out WHO was killed, and they [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > No problem, thanks for doing so - I didn't even know that forum > existed much less that the incident was being discussed on it. You posting got me curious, so I was looking for newpaper/tv/radio web sites for that area. Never found a news story about this incident, but found the forum and thought what the heck... I'd check it out. Starting reading some of the postings, and found that one. And then read where they were getting all confusled (:D) and thought I would put your info in there.
>>> For a grieving mother. >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>> already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now >>> losing something even more precious than that. CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 17:57 GMT >>> Lori, but I hope you don't mind that I posted your message in another >>> forum where people were trying to find out WHO was killed, and they [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > they were getting all confusled (:D) and thought I would put your info in > there. Thanks. If you read all the posts you'll see what I mean about the corruption in St. Bernard parish. The drug dealer (and he *WAS* dealing in crack and methadone) dealt out of that same house for years and has never been arrested. When it happened last night he was on his way to pick up some stolen property (he has been running scams on the government, innocent victims of Katrina, and FEMA ever since Katrina). The cops saw that he didn't have a driver's license, no insurance, and was very likely high as a kite. Yet they didn't arrest him, didn't impound the vehicle, and advised him to take the vehicle and leave town before the parents could bring charges against him. I'm waiting to hear from my daughter to see if he has already left.
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>>>> For a grieving mother. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>> already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now >>>> losing something even more precious than that. CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 17:13 GMT I talked to my daughter again this morning - she and the children are obviously still very shaken. She thinks Raven either doesn't completely understand what happened or is in denial because she keeps asking if she can go play with Megan (Christine's older sister) and asking why everyone is crying. Erin is going to arrange for counseling for them as soon as she can. She told me more of what happened last night...
At 6:00 PM Erin was inside doing homework (as I said, she is in her final year of nursing school before her internship), Raven was down the street at another friend's house, Alexis and Brooke were in the pool in the back yard, and Greg was working in the garage. Greg heard a piercing child's scream - the kind where you know something is wrong, not just a child's "noise". That was Alisha, Alan's daughter (Alan Blache' was the man who ran over Christine). Alisha and Christine had been walking down the sidewalk going to the little girl's house where Raven was playing. Alan was driving forward out of his driveway, ran off into the grass and across the sidewalk, and didn't see either Alisha or Christine in front of him and apparently didn't hear his own child shrieking in terror, and rolled over Christine with both sets of tires.
When Greg heard the scream he ran through the house calling Erin (they didn't know at the time who screamed and thought it could be Raven) and both dashed madly into the front yard. As soon as they saw Christine lying there Greg ran back into the house to grab the phone to call 911 and then on into the back yard to keep Alexis and Brooke from going into the front yard and seeing, well, stuff. Erin knelt by the child's side to see if she could administer CPR, but the child was too injured for any help. After a few struggling breaths, she died - long before the ambulance could get there, before even her mother could get there from across the street and two houses down.
There is only one trauma center left in the New Orleans area - Elmwood in Harahan, an hour's drive away. Tawny went with the ambulance and Erin and Greg drove Chris (Christine's father) to the hospital. They got there 20 minutes before the ambulance arrived. I guess in this case it really didn't make any difference since the child was beyond any help, but it scares me to think that my daughter and her family are that far away from emergency care.
I'm sorry for going on about this, but I feel very isolated here in Houston - helpless to offer even much comfort, much less any help to either my daughter, her children, or her best friend who lost her child. I just needed you guys to talk to - talking about things like this needs to happen for the human spirit to grasp the enormity of the tragedy and deal with it - if such a thing *can* be dealt with.
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> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. Karen - 10 Sep 2006 17:55 GMT > I talked to my daughter again this morning - she and the children are > obviously still very shaken. She thinks Raven either doesn't [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >> gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing >> something even more precious than that. This is just all so very sad and tragic :( Prayers for the whole neighborhood but particularly the parents and Raven. This is such a traumatic thing.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 10 Sep 2006 19:49 GMT **Intentional Top Posting**
Catnipped,
I don't know how you do it. I would have given up a long time ago, and you keep on. I am in awe of your strength (sappy but true).
Prayers and offerings for Yours and Christines' families, songs for her to find her way.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> I talked to my daughter again this morning - she and the children are > obviously still very shaken. She thinks Raven either doesn't completely [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > > > See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Gabey8 - 11 Sep 2006 00:11 GMT Consider the prayers prayed and the purrs purred. What a heartbreaking situation! :o(
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Cheryl - 11 Sep 2006 01:21 GMT > I'm sorry for going on about this, but I feel very isolated here > in Houston - helpless to offer even much comfort, much less any [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > grasp the enormity of the tragedy and deal with it - if such a > thing *can* be dealt with. What a terrible tragedy. :( Prayers of condolence are being sent for Christine's family, and all involved. Does the children's school offer councilling in times like this? Purrs for Raven and her friends.
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pmendhall - 11 Sep 2006 08:11 GMT > She thinks Raven either doesn't completely > understand what happened or is in denial because she keeps asking if she can > go play with Megan (Christine's older sister) and asking why everyone is > crying. Erin is going to arrange for counseling for them as soon as she > can. She told me more of what happened last night... Catnipped, based on my experience, she doesn't really understand. It will take awhile for the fact that her friend isn't there to sink in. I am very gald that Erin is arranging counseling for them. Thank you for the update on this.
I am truly saddened by the waste of such a young and precious life and in such a tragic way. Purrs and doggie drool on the way for all who are affected by this tragedy. Also supporting energy and thoughts on the way for Erin, Raven and Christine's family.
Diane
Magic Mood Jeep© - 11 Sep 2006 14:32 GMT A "story" about this has *finally* showed up in the Times/Picayune online, can you believe that this is *all* that they have to say??????
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-16/1157954371224720. xml&coll=1
> I talked to my daughter again this morning - she and the children are > obviously still very shaken. She thinks Raven either doesn't [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >> >> See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Adrian A - 11 Sep 2006 16:09 GMT > A "story" about this has *finally* showed up in the Times/Picayune > online, > can you believe that this is *all* that they have to say?????? http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-16/1157954371224720. xml&coll=1
I wonder if the reporter knows that's a pack of lies. :-(
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 11 Sep 2006 18:25 GMT >> A "story" about this has *finally* showed up in the Times/Picayune >> online, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I wonder if the reporter knows that's a pack of lies. :-( From reading this story, and the message board that I posted about in another msg here, I gather that the reporter only talked to the *driver* of the car/truck.
Not a very good reporter if you ask me.
meeee - 11 Sep 2006 22:28 GMT That just make sme mad.....disrespectful to the girl and her family.
>A "story" about this has *finally* showed up in the Times/Picayune online, >can you believe that this is *all* that they have to say?????? [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] >>> >>> See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Exocat - 10 Sep 2006 18:03 GMT > You've all read about my daughter, Erin, and her family in the aftermath > of Katrina. Their neighborhood was visited by another tragedy today. Massive purrs of condolence to all the bereaved from us lot. What a desperate event, I'm speechless.
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Takayuki - 10 Sep 2006 20:00 GMT >Please send some purrs and prayers for these families - having already gone >through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something >even more precious than that. Purrs for Christine, and for the families involved. I'm glad that the other children were spared seeing that.
Jo Firey - 10 Sep 2006 20:35 GMT > For a grieving mother. < before the ambulance got there, my daughter, who is in her last
> year of nursing tried to help the baby who was struggling for breath - > and then watched her take her last breath just before the ambulance > arrived. < No mother should have to see that, especially when it was
> a child that practically lived at her house. But as devastated as Erin > is, I can't even begin to imagine how Tawny must be feeling tonight. > > Please send some purrs and prayers for these families - having already > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. Purrs for Erin and for Tawny and for everyone else who loved Christine.
I'm guessing that Erin will be beating herself up at some point for not being able to do something. Make sure that she knows that she did do something wonderful. She made sure Christine was not alone and was being held by someone who loved her when she died.
Purrs that this makes Erin stronger and doesn't prevent her from becoming a wonderful nurse.
Jo
CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 21:01 GMT >> For a grieving mother. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Jo You're right, Jo, and I didn't even think to tell her that!
A cop friend of Chris' - Christine's father - was over at Chris and Tawny's house, and Erin and Greg were there as well, when I talked to Erin just a few minutes ago. He was letting them know what was going on, I guess with charges (or not) for the driver, so she had to go and will call me back to let me know what the cop said. I'll let her know what you and Tweed said and I hope that will comfort her some.
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tension_on_the_wire - 11 Sep 2006 05:09 GMT > >> For a grieving mother. > >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > let me know what the cop said. I'll let her know what you and Tweed said > and I hope that will comfort her some. Hi Catnipped:
We haven't met, I am tension. I am very sorry to hear what your family is going through. As bad as I feel for your daughter and granddaughter, though, I keep thinking about the little girl who *did* witness the event, and was a near miss herself, and at the hand of her own father, if I understand the story correctly. I am the poster who mentioned getting your granddaughter, and maybe your daughter as well, into therapy sooner rather than later, but that other child's need is urgent. I know you probably don't feel too much sympathy for that man's family on his account, but if the police won't take him down, is it possible that Child Protective Services might help? I grant you charges of "negligent manslaughter" would help them remove any children from the house, but if there is enough evidence that his own child was a casualty psychologically, if not physically, of his abhorrent behaviour, and there were enough neighbours to attest to his drug-dealing, you might be able to at least get that poor kid out of that house and into a safe environment. If Louisiana law is not too different from California law in this respect, I can tell you that *any* citizen can blow the whistle to Child Protective Services, or the Department of Children's Services or whatever it is called in your state, and it might also be able to be done anonymously, since all it does is trigger an investigatory visit from the service, and then it is up to them to determine if the environment is safe for the child. People like this individual, if he is flagrantly dealing and *doing* drugs (and most serious dealers do *not* touch the supply), then he will typically get paranoid and not let them into the house, thinking they are undercover narcs and the works and then they can get the warrant. It might be a way to circumvent apathetic street cops and get to the narcs or even homicide if they became interested, which I can't imagine why they wouldn't since the death of a child is involved.
Another route is the coroner's results because the sudden death of a child usually results in an inquest which is a public hearing, and neighbours who are concerned can attend and testify, if they know about it. The County Medical Examiner's office should know, if you call them.
Just a few thoughts to add to your burden, I'm sorry. But I have worked in this area for many years, and I know that many families find the best therapy to be working together to get the b@st@rd who did it. And precious few, if any, know some of these handy little back-door methods.
--tension
CatNipped - 11 Sep 2006 13:40 GMT >> >> For a grieving mother. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > --tension Thank you - you gave me a lot more to work with. I agree, Aleisha is in *SERIOUS* risk. I am going to do everything I can to help - although you have to understand that I'm dealing with a parish government that is *SO* corrupt that cops have killed innocent people, buried the bodies, and are still on the force. Most people who live elsewhere really don't believe me when I say this because it is *SO* unimaginable, but remember that this is the state who once had a governor who ruled from inside an insane asylum and only a few years ago had to choose for governor between a convicted criminal and the former head of the Klu Klux Klan. As precious as it is to you and me, one child's life mean less than nothing to the people who run this state and parish.
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2006 17:57 GMT <<snipped>>
> Thank you - you gave me a lot more to work with. I agree, Aleisha is in > *SERIOUS* risk. I am going to do everything I can to help - although you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ I lived in a small town in Alabama for several years. We did not have a drug problem in high school (drinking, yep, drugs? Not even). It was always joked that the cops took the wanna be dealers into the swamp and let the gators and the cotton mouths deal with 'em. If they got out alive, they were taken to county line and let out, if not, well... You know.
I believe every word about small town cops (Imperial Beach California wasn't much different).
Just curious, is CPS under police jurisdiction? If so, I'm am *so* sorry to hear that, if not, well maybe she can get a little help. Would you be able to call from Houston to spare any locals the immediate repercussions?
Smokie Darling (Annie)
CatNipped - 11 Sep 2006 20:35 GMT > <<snipped>> > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Smokie Darling (Annie) It's mot *JUST* the cops - everyone is corrupt from the dog catcher to the parish president!
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 11 Sep 2006 20:55 GMT <<snipped>>
> > I believe every word about small town cops (Imperial Beach California > > wasn't much different). [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Oh, I see. In Andalusia, it was just the cops, and the weren't "corrupt" per se, but certainly didn't always follow the law they were supposed to be upholding.
Goodness, I remember once that we had a small snake (just a green grass snake, no big deal), but dad didn't want to kill it. We called the police (NOT 911) and asked what we should do with it. They sent out an officer (!) named William Shakespeare. What was funny was he said that they always sent *him* on snake calls, because he was terrified of snakes (poor man).
He and my dad walked the bucket with the snake out into the swamp (beyond our back yard), Shake had his pistol at the ready (we had small gators in there) and they released the little guy far enough that they figured he wouldn't come back to our house (we had cats and several small dogs).
He started coming over dinner at least once per week, in fact, when we moved away, I cried when we said goodbye to him. He was so nice and pleasant and genuinely kind.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - thanks for giving me back that nice memory, I'd completely forgotten about Bill.
tension_on_the_wire - 11 Sep 2006 23:49 GMT > <<snipped>> > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Smokie Darling (Annie) No CPS is *not* under police jurisdiction. They are an agency of the State. They can initiate an investigation without police involvement, but they can also request police assistance the minute they pursue a court order for removal of a child from a home, which they always do since scenes like that tend to get turbulent and require law enforcement to drive the point home to the family that they have no choice in the matter.
Sometimes, however, it happens the opposite way, and it is the police who discover a situation going on, while they are investigating criminal behaviour, like in a drug bust where a child is found in the house, in which case, right there at the scene, they will immediately call CPS and hand the child over to them.
Once a child is in the custody of CPS, they are generally considered, or made legally, wards of the court, usually through a hearing, and so at that point the police have no jurisdiction over that child except in so far as they will testify at court hearings about any findings during their involvement or acquisition of the child, and they will enforce any restraining orders imposed on either of the parents of the child. Sometimes, the court will award temporary custody of the child to some other relative not living in the "risky" situation in which the child was found.
--tension
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 12 Sep 2006 00:11 GMT <<snipped>>
> > I believe every word about small town cops (Imperial Beach California > > wasn't much different). [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > enforcement to drive the point home to the family that they have no > choice in the matter. Having worked for CPS in my state, I'm aware that they aren't *under* police jurisdiction (technically), but... and it's a big but, some areas have a great deal of difficulty doing their jobs when the police are "shut out" in any way. I've seen it happen. I could have used better wording, but I think Catnipped understood what I meant.
> Sometimes, however, it happens the opposite way, and it is the police > who discover a situation going on, while they are investigating [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > --tension In a perfect world, the guy would have been locked up years ago, and the child would have been safe, but we are far from perfect (darn it ;-) ). Somedays I don't write what I mean very well, and the regulars here have gotten very good at understanding what I mean (hee-does that mean it isn't my fault I'm not very clear sometimes?).
Sorry for any confusion I've caused.
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Cheryl - 12 Sep 2006 01:35 GMT > We haven't met, I am tension. I am very sorry to hear what your > family is going through. As bad as I feel for your daughter and [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > up to them to determine if the environment is safe for the > child. If I'm not mistaken, this is the same neighbor that endangered the life and/or limb of his daughter last year when he put a dangerous dog in the backyard. A stray, or lost pit bull.
I think all of the children need to have some help right now. Especially the one that witnessed this horror done by her own father. How really terrible. :(
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tension_on_the_wire - 12 Sep 2006 03:36 GMT > If I'm not mistaken, this is the same neighbor that endangered the > life and/or limb of his daughter last year when he put a dangerous [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > Cheryl The more so in light of the fact that the child is probably, while reeling from this trauma, under immense pressure from father and maybe mother too, to not tell what she saw, if in fact his excuse for the incident is false. The article mentioned that he claimed the child was already under the truck going after a remote-control toy, and so he could not have rightly seen anything, and if that is not true, and he just mowed her down, then his daughter's own story could blow his alibi....that puts her under tremendous risk right now. Were there any other eye-witnesses to this event?
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CatNipped - 12 Sep 2006 11:52 GMT >> If I'm not mistaken, this is the same neighbor that endangered the >> life and/or limb of his daughter last year when he put a dangerous [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > ---tension No, no other eye witnesses. But my son-in-law and daughter were first on the scene and the child's body was on the sidewalk - *NOT* in the driveway.
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Cheryl - 12 Sep 2006 20:50 GMT > No, no other eye witnesses. But my son-in-law and daughter were > first on the scene and the child's body was on the sidewalk - > *NOT* in the driveway. I was reading over on the NOLA forum, and the way the story is being told by the press seems like what people are believing, even though there were witnesses to at least the scene, if not the actual tragedy. Where Erin or Greg interviewed at all? Not that they need the press hanging around, but it seems strange the story that's being told. I'm so sorry everyone has to go through that, especially the parents.
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CatNipped - 12 Sep 2006 22:58 GMT >> No, no other eye witnesses. But my son-in-law and daughter were >> first on the scene and the child's body was on the sidewalk - [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > told. I'm so sorry everyone has to go through that, especially the > parents. No, they weren't interviewed - and the cops saw her body lying on the sidewalk, not in the driveway where the truck was parked where it would have been if she had crawled under the truck while it was parked. I saw this whitewash coming a mile away. If this guy dealt drugs out of that house for at least 15 years that I know of and was never arrested much less convicted (and I know he was reported repeatedly), then you know he has connections (he has relatives in high places).
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cybercat - 12 Sep 2006 23:41 GMT > >> No, no other eye witnesses. But my son-in-law and daughter were > >> first on the scene and the child's body was on the sidewalk - [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > (and I know he was reported repeatedly), then you know he has connections > (he has relatives in high places). CN, be *careful*
It is easy to figure out who you are and who you are talking about. If this guy is dangerous, you could be taking a serious risk.
CatNipped - 12 Sep 2006 23:54 GMT >> >> No, no other eye witnesses. But my son-in-law and daughter were >> >> first on the scene and the child's body was on the sidewalk - [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > It is easy to figure out who you are and who you are talking about. > If this guy is dangerous, you could be taking a serious risk. Nah - he's only a big fish in the little pond of St. Bernard Parish. Their influence doesn't reach outside of the state and *certainly* not to here in Houston*. The most important thing to remember about scum like this is that they are basically cowards hiding behind their relative's influence. Besides, Ben would just *LOVE* for him to show his face here - the law in Houston allows a person to defend not only himself, but also his property - so as long as a dearly departed "intruder" has one foot over your property line you can get off without even an inquest hearing! ;>
But this whole sad incident illustrates exactly why Ben and I got the hell out of there as soon as we could!
*Did you read about the people of Houston calling a special townhall meeting with the mayor demanding that they send the NO refugees back to Louisiana!!! They finally got tired of the 150% increase in murders and the 250% increase in violent crime since Katrina. LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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cybercat - 13 Sep 2006 00:15 GMT > *Did you read about the people of Houston calling a special townhall meeting > with the mayor demanding that they send the NO refugees back to Louisiana!!! > They finally got tired of the 150% increase in murders and the 250% increase > in violent crime since Katrina. LOL!!!!!!!!!! No, I did not see that. Last I heard about Katrina lately was someone talking about how the black debutante ball was not held that year, but the white one was. The man on the news, who knows who he was, said that the attitude in New Orleans on the part of the affluent whites was that Katrina had the effect of flushing a toilet. It was disturbing.
CatNipped - 13 Sep 2006 00:34 GMT >> *Did you read about the people of Houston calling a special townhall > meeting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > that > Katrina had the effect of flushing a toilet. It was disturbing. Unfortunately, it's true. They are trying to make New Orleans into a city of a different color and with the corruption there they may just be able to do it. The ironic part is, however, that the people they're trying to keep out are probably *MUCH* better off elsewhere anyway!
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cybercat - 13 Sep 2006 02:13 GMT > >> *Did you read about the people of Houston calling a special townhall > > meeting [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > do it. The ironic part is, however, that the people they're trying to keep > out are probably *MUCH* better off elsewhere anyway! That sounds a lot like the argument the racists made for sending freed slaves to Liberia in the 1870s. Here's a thought: poor brown people have as much a right to call New Orleans their own as the wealthy pale. Their heritage is there. Hundreds of years of blood. Anyone who condones the victory of brute force (and money is certainly a soldier in that army) should expect to die by the sword, too.
MonkeySnaps@gmail.com - 12 Sep 2006 12:21 GMT > The more so in light of the fact that the child is probably, while > reeling from this trauma, under immense pressure from father and maybe [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ---tension This just makes me sick - I suspect they're a bunch of liars. How on Earth could someone not know a child was under their truck, with their own child standing right there?
Lori, I hope thay get the truth out. This is just sickening.
-L.
Christina Websell - 10 Sep 2006 20:41 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Malone, was run over and killed by my daughter's neighbor right in front > of Erin's house. I really don't know what to say, Lori. Sorry is not enough. Purrs for all involved in this senseless tragedy. One thing is sure: it must have been a great comfort to the child to have someone she knew so well caring for her in her last moments.
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CatNipped - 10 Sep 2006 20:56 GMT >> For a grieving mother. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Tweed Thank you (and Jo) for pointing that out. I know Erin is feeling horrible that she couldn't do anything to save the child - I need to tell her this, to let her know that she *DID* help in that regard.
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meeee - 10 Sep 2006 22:17 GMT There is nothing I can say except to let you know I am hurting for you and your family. We will be purring for your family and the little girl's family. purrs and hugs, liz
> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing > something even more precious than that. CATherine - 11 Sep 2006 01:37 GMT >For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Malone, was run over and killed by my daughter's neighbor right in front of >Erin's house. I am so shocked and very sorry to hear this. I am sending purrs and prayers for the grieving family and friends.
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Sam - 11 Sep 2006 01:46 GMT > For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something > even more precious than that. Prayers and purrs are being sent for Christine's Mom, her family, and your daughter and family.
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badwilson - 11 Sep 2006 04:56 GMT OMG. What a terrible senseless tragedy. Purrs for everyone involved.
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> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > already gone through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now > losing something even more precious than that. Lesley - 11 Sep 2006 14:36 GMT . Their neighborhood was visited by another tragedy today. My
> youngest granddaughter, Raven's, best friend, a 7 year old, Christine > Malone, was run over and killed by my daughter's neighbor right in front of > Erin's house. This is so sad, all I can do shed tears, say prayers and set the Furballs onto purring for Raven and the family. I wish there were more I could do or say but sometimes things are just too bad for mere words
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Dewi - 11 Sep 2006 14:39 GMT This is so sad. Prayers and comforting purrs being sent.
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Christine Burel - 12 Sep 2006 06:16 GMT how horribly tragic; I'm so very sorry to read this. Please know we're sending purrs to Erin and Raven and especially for Tawny. Christine
> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > through losing every thing they owned to Katrina to now losing something > even more precious than that. CatNipped - 12 Sep 2006 13:14 GMT Last October, when Erin and her family were staying with me after Katrina, Tawny and Chris drove with Megan and Christine all the way from Mississippi to Houston to attend Alexis' birthday party. I was just going through these pictures and found a really nice one of Christine here: http://www.possibleplaces.com/Alexis_Birthday/Untitled-128.jpg
There are more of her mixed in with the rest of the pictures from that day here: http://www.possibleplaces.com/Alexis_Birthday/ (look for the blonde, blue-eyed little girl in the pick t-shirt with the kitty on the front - in a few of the pictures she's glued to Raven's side, which is how they mostly stayed).
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> For a grieving mother. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Jo Firey - 12 Sep 2006 19:23 GMT > Last October, when Erin and her family were staying with me after > Katrina, Tawny and Chris drove with Megan and Christine all the way [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped Thank you for posting the picture site. Somehow it helps.
We had a minor skirmish here yesterday. We bought youngest grandson a new bicycle for his ninth birthday coming up Sunday. He was riding on the street in front of the house, and when told to put his helmet on, informed us he didn't need it as "he wasn't going anywhere".
(Bad timing to use that argument on me)
Maybe it will help me with him to put a face on what I'm sure he just thinks is a story I told him. Jo
CatNipped - 12 Sep 2006 23:35 GMT The wake and funeral is going to be held Thursday (the wake at 11:00 AM at Greenwood Funeral Parlor on Canal Street in Metairie and the funeral at 1:00PM at Lake Lawn Cemetery in Metairie). They had to postpone it a day because they didn't have a small enough coffin in stock - they had to send for one. :<
On the advice of the counselor they're seeing, Erin is going to take the girls, including Raven, to the wake.
Last night in the shower Raven was writing "I love you Christine" in the steam on the shower door and when Erin looked in on her she asked Erin, "Mom, when am I going to die?" Erin asked her why she asked that and she said, "Because Christine misses me."
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 13 Sep 2006 01:41 GMT > The wake and funeral is going to be held Thursday (the wake at 11:00 > AM at Greenwood Funeral Parlor on Canal Street in Metairie and the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Erin, "Mom, when am I going to die?" Erin asked her why she asked > that and she said, "Because Christine misses me." <tears>
Hugs for you and yours, and Christine's as well!!!
And if the scumbag that did it *ever* shows his scrawny a.s in Indiana, you can bet that he will likely end up with both Land Rover *and* Jeep treadmarks all over him. B-town has a *very* low tolerance for drug dealers and their like!
Magic Mood Jeep© - 13 Sep 2006 14:10 GMT > The wake and funeral is going to be held Thursday (the wake at 11:00 > AM at Greenwood Funeral Parlor on Canal Street in Metairie and the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Erin, "Mom, when am I going to die?" Erin asked her why she asked > that and she said, "Because Christine misses me." Anybody that wants can sign the guest book here
http://www.lakelawnmetairie.com/serviceinfo.php
Here's the obit from the Times=Picayune Christine Kathleen Malone MALONE Christine Kathleen Malone passed away on Saturday, September 9, 2006. Age 7. Beloved daughter of Christopher and Tawny Malone. Sister of Meghan Ann Malone. Granddaughter of Jeannie Redmond, Ruby J. and Jerry C. Murray, William P. Malone and the late Frank Saling, Sr. She is also survived by her aunts and uncles, Stacey Martin, Martha Mowers, Peggy Saling, Kelly Grostma, Peggy Keefer, Trudy Benson, Susan Malone, Mary J. Stephens, Owen Saling, Michael Malone, A.J. Grostma and Owen Keefer. Miss Malone was a second grade student at Andrew Jackson Elementary School. Relatives and friends are invited to attend the Funeral Mass at GREENWOOD FUNERAL HOME, formerly All Faiths Funeral Home, 5200 Canal Blvd. (adjacent to Greenwood Cemetery) on Thursday, September 14, 2006 at 1:00 p.m. Interment will follow in Lake Lawn Park Mausoleum. Visitation will begin at 11:00 a.m. In lieu of flowers, please send donations to the Christine Malone Benefit Account, c/o Mike Malone, 146 Bodet Lane, Covington, LA 70433 or any Whitney Bank. To sign and view the Family Guestbook, please visit www.lakelawnmetairie.com
CatNipped - 13 Sep 2006 15:40 GMT Thanks for the info MMJ, I looked for and didn't see the obituary with this information in the Times Picayune. Being able to go only for the info and to sign the guestbook is nice for the people who can't be there in person.
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> > The wake and funeral is going to be held Thursday (the wake at 11:00 > > AM at Greenwood Funeral Parlor on Canal Street in Metairie and the [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Whitney Bank. To sign and view the Family Guestbook, please visit > www.lakelawnmetairie.com Fuga :o) - 14 Sep 2006 01:43 GMT I'm a bit behind on the emails but I just read what happened. This is horrible. Very devastating.
my thoughts are with you, your family, and Erin's family during this difficult chapter.
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CatNipped - 13 Sep 2006 12:24 GMT It started with the whitewashed article in the Times Picayune where they totally ignored the facts and started blaming the child instead of the drug dealer. But this will give you an indication of how deep it goes...
On the St. Bernard Forum (a site sponsored by NOLA - the New Orleans, Louisiana government) - and MMJ should be able to back me up on this - *ALL* the posts (about 30 or 40) giving ALLEN BLAUCHE' as the name of the driver and all the FACTS about his drug dealing and drug use HAVE BEEN DELETED. Yet they left on there this post, and I quote (#21178 post 2):
"It was just on the news, The guy had a license and insurance and it was an unfortunate accident. NO CHARGES will be filed. If any charges are filed it should be against the parents of the dead kid for not watching their kid and the dead kid for tresspassing."
It was not removed even though I complained about it to the moderator SIX TIMES!
Tell me why *ANYONE* would want to live in a town whose officials would vilify a dead child and her grieving parents in order to protect a drug dealer! I swear I will never again tell anyone I was born in that cess pool!!!
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 13 Sep 2006 12:47 GMT > It started with the whitewashed article in the Times Picayune where > they totally ignored the facts and started blaming the child instead [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > protect a drug dealer! I swear I will never again tell anyone I was > born in that cess pool!!! Yup, she's right - all the original messages referring to Christine's death (Thread #21144) were removed by *SATURDAY*, including mine where I quoted Lori's original message here.
Damn, I *knew* I should have saved them on my HD.
Effing !$#@%$% NOLA-ans (sorry Lori)
Adrian A - 13 Sep 2006 14:38 GMT >> It started with the whitewashed article in the Times Picayune where >> they totally ignored the facts and started blaming the child instead [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Effing !$#@%$% NOLA-ans (sorry Lori) A similar tragedy occured in England on Monday, I'm sure the person resposible here won't get away with it. Even so, it's still *very* upsetting. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/5341652.stm
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meeee - 14 Sep 2006 01:02 GMT >>> It started with the whitewashed article in the Times Picayune where >>> they totally ignored the facts and started blaming the child instead [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > upsetting. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/5341652.stm OMG that is terrible; it's getting worse and worse. How horrible for you. Hugs to you all, it just makes me feel awful; horrified to read this.
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