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Vet Tech Journals: Not one, but TWO job offers....

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Mischief - 09 Sep 2006 03:38 GMT
Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
a list of pros and cons of both places.  I told both places that I
would sleep on it over the weekend and let them know on monday.

So here we go:

Clinic number One:

Four doctors, two on duty at once.

Hours - Open 7 days a week, 8 hours shifts

Appearance - nice on the outside, kinda cruddy in the back.  Uneven
floor, poor lighting, peeling cabinets

Clientele - All kinds, but mostly upscale.

Staff - Lot of guy technicians, a few girls, no one is licensed.  Upper
technicians do know what they are doing.  This is the place where some
of the female technicians gave me attitude.  Lot of technicians are on
duty at once.

Surgeries - spays/neuters, mass removals, exploratories, orthopedic

Pros - They practice good medicine and seem to do more surgeries.  The
doctors were all kind to me and Dr. L, one of the head doctors took the
time to teach me more about ear cytologies one day.  There seems to be
room for me to get involved in procedures and possible work my way up
to a senior tech.

Cons - The cool reception i got from some of the employees.  There are
already a few techs that do surgeries and know enough to be involved in
them, so i don't know how i woiuld fit in without 'butting in'  There
also seems to be so many techs 'on the floor' that i don't know if i
really would be much help.

I was told from the get go that the trick would be 'fitting me in' with
the current staff and while they can always use help, they're not
really desperatte.  However, since i was invited for a total of THREE
working interviews, they seem to find some value in me.  They like my
enthusiasm and the two head techs seem to like me.  I had orginally
asked for $14, but now since the other place is offering me $15, this
place said they were willing to match it.

Clinic number Two:

Three doctors, two on duty at once.

Hours - Open 6 days a week, TEN hour shifts

Appearance - nice on the outside, nice treatment room, lots of light
and neat looking

Clientele - unsure, since i really didn't interact with many clients

Staff - Very friendly and funny.  I immediately got along with two of
the technicians on my working interview last week.  Lisa, one of the
senior techs and I seemed to click and she seemed to recognize that i
knew what I was doing.  I met some of the other staff today and they
smiled at me too.

Surgeries - spays/neuters, mass removals, exploratories.  Not as many.
But they use Laser surgery, something i've never worked with before.
Hmmm...

Pros - Friendly atmosphere, I felt quite comfortable.  Dr. S is a bit
of a joker and seems open to working with me.  The friendly staff is a
big plus and I feel i can have a little bit of fun at least.  There
also is only a few techs in the back, so I don't feel as crowded.  Also
they need more technicians who are trained for surgery so there's
definite room for growth.

Cons - Ten hour shifts.  I've worked them before, and they are not fun.
But then agian I would have three days off.  They only have surgery
days on MWF and don't seem to do big complex surgeries.  And one day of
the four days of work I would be working as a receptionist

At this place i would also be pulling duty as receptionist, which would
be a load off my feet and give me a chance to work both front AND back.
The atmosphere is a big plus for me.  Also when i was running errands
afterwards, i found i had received a voicemail from Lisa.  She had gone
to lunch earlier and i didn't see her when i left so she called me to
say 'sorry I missed you, and I really enjoyed working with you today,
and I hope you choose our clinic.'  Wow..........  They also offered me
$15 an hour from the get go.

I told both places that I had to choose one of them, and that I would
sleep on it over the weekend and get back to them on Monday.

It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I think
i'm gonna go with the second one.  The people there are kinder, and
both times i was there not only did i learn a little bit, but I also
had a little fun too.  I'm sure it can get crazy, but i feel that I
could really grow there.  I'm guessing that i could eventually get used
to ten hour shifts, too.

So I'm happy now, because I'm so close to being employed again.

Now the thing will be calling the first place on monday and letting
them know that i won't be working with them.  I'm curious if I should
tell them why.  The main reason is because of those incidents where
those girls gave me attitude.  There's been a few responses from the
group saying that I was reading too much into them and that they really
were not giving me attitude.

Whether it really was or not, it was enough that I did not feel
comfortable.  And it wasn't just those girls.  It just was an overall
feeling i was getting from some of the staff.  I personally believe in
being kind to everyone, regardless if they get hired or not.  I want
the new person to feel 'at home' and welcomed to a degree, so they feel
like they made the right decision by coming to work for us.  While some
of them were kind to me, the general consensus made me feel like I
wasn't worth their time and to me that's unacceptable.

So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
potential for me at the other place, etc....

Hmmm.....

Thanks for all the support and purrs,

Kristi
Joy - 09 Sep 2006 04:00 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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>
> Kristi

As I read your descriptions of the two jobs, I was thinking I'd go with the
second one, too.  Being happy in your work is so important to your overall
well-being, and if you aren't happy with the way you're being treated, you
aren't going to be happy on the job.  I think they might be resentful if you
told them you didn't like the attitude of the staff, and I can't think of
any tactful way of putting it.  I'd probably say you just felt that the
other job was a better fit for you.

Joy
Lois - 09 Sep 2006 04:35 GMT
>> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
>> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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>
> Joy

What she said, but IF you have to give a reason I would just say that you
feel there is more potential for you at the other place as you wouldn't be
competing with so many other tech's although thinking about it I think you
don't need to say anything - just give them your decision.

Best wishes
Lois

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Joy - 09 Sep 2006 06:37 GMT
I just reread your description of the first job.  If you have to give a
reason, why not tell them that you're more needed at the place you chose.
If they'd have to "fit you in", that would make sense, and shouldn't burn
any bridges.

Joy

>> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
>> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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>
> Joy
Karen AKA Kajikit - 09 Sep 2006 05:41 GMT
>Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
>clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
>a list of pros and cons of both places.  I told both places that I
>would sleep on it over the weekend and let them know on monday.

Seems like a no-brainer to me... all the language you used about the
first job is negative, which suggests that you really wouldn't be
happy there, however challenging the work was. And all the language
you used about the second was positive. You'll get used to the longer
shifts, and a long shift where you're working with good people and
nice and busy goes much quicker than a short shift where you're
unhappy and bored...

If they ask why, just tell them that the second job will work better
for you in terms of hours, or something like that... never burn your
bridges just in case you have to backtrack later!
tanada - 10 Sep 2006 23:48 GMT
>>Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
>>clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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> nice and busy goes much quicker than a short shift where you're
> unhappy and bored...

Not only that, but working four days a week will give you study time for
your boards.  Girl, we're all so happy for you over here.

Pam S. writing on behalf of the whole Shirk family.
pmendhall - 09 Sep 2006 05:45 GMT
> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
> potential for me at the other place, etc...

I would tell them how much you enjoyed working with them during your three
sessions, list some things you liked.  I would not say anything about the
staff attitude.  I would also say the other position is a better fit.  No
reason to burn any bridges if you don't have to.  You never know when
someone from the other clinic might end up working where you are now, etc.

In my experience, a good working environment is much more important than the
pay.  It just took me awhile to realize it.  ;)

Good luck in the new job.

Diane
mlbriggs - 09 Sep 2006 05:58 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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>
> Kristi

Suggestion:  Do not give a reason!    The less you tell them the better
off you will be.  We never know what the future may bring.  Good luck.  
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Monique Y. Mudama - 09 Sep 2006 05:58 GMT
> It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I
> think i'm gonna go with the second one.  The people there are
> kinder, and both times i was there not only did i learn a little
> bit, but I also had a little fun too.  I'm sure it can get crazy,
> but i feel that I could really grow there.  I'm guessing that i
> could eventually get used to ten hour shifts, too.

After reading your description of both, I was also thinking the second
one would be a better choice.  Plus, if they started out offering $15,
they may pay better in general.

> So I'm happy now, because I'm so close to being employed again.

*smile*

> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
> potential for me at the other place, etc....

Honestly, I wouldn't.  You never know; in a few months, or a year or
two, you may find yourself in a position where you want to get a job
with this place, and those people may still be there.  I would stick
to talking about the positives of the place you're choosing, not any
negatives about the place you didn't choose.  Or don't even say
anything meaningful at all, just say that it was very close and you
had to choose one.

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Rhonda - 09 Sep 2006 06:33 GMT
>>So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
>>choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
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> anything meaningful at all, just say that it was very close and you
> had to choose one.

Ditto! It's a good idea not to burn any bridges, or even singe any bridges.

Good luck at your new job, I hope everything goes great right off the
bat. People having fun at their job means you've found a place with
terrific bosses. I'm glad you found one with such a great atmosphere.

Rhonda
Micha - 09 Sep 2006 16:07 GMT
>> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
>> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
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> anything meaningful at all, just say that it was very close and you
> had to choose one.

Kristi, I would strongly second the evaluation given above. ANY
comment on your side can only be interpreted as negative.

Squarely Yours
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Cheryl - 09 Sep 2006 07:15 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from
> different clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good
> places.  So i'm making a list of pros and cons of both places.
> I told both places that I would sleep on it over the weekend and
> let them know on monday.

Awesome.  You GO girl!

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MatSav - 09 Sep 2006 12:17 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics...

Congratulations! What a nice problem to have!

> I told both places that I had to choose one of them, and that I would
> sleep on it over the weekend and get back to them on Monday.

A good call.

> It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I think
> i'm gonna go with the second one...

> Now the thing will be calling the first place on monday and letting
> them know that i won't be working with them.  I'm curious if I should
> tell them why...

If you are going to tell them, make sure it's "constructive" feedback - make
suggestions as to how they can improve. You _may_ still want (or need!0 to
work there in the future...

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Micha - 09 Sep 2006 16:03 GMT
>> Now the thing will be calling the first place on monday and letting
>> them know that i won't be working with them.  I'm curious if I should
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> suggestions as to how they can improve. You _may_ still want (or need!0 to
> work there in the future...

Kristi, I don't think it is a good idea to tell them WHY you haven't
chose them to work with. You have seen them some hours at the most and
thats no good base for any judgment. ANY comment on your side can only
be interpreted as negative.

There is absolutely no need to justfy your decision. You do not have
to excuse yourself for not taking on that job. Just be polite and only
tell them, you have decided to take on another job. Thank them for
giving you a chance and say, even if you have now decided otherwise,
you might ask them again if things change.

Good luck purrs for you getting a satisfying job.

Squarely Yours
Michael

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Adrian A - 09 Sep 2006 12:21 GMT
<snip>
> So I'm happy now, because I'm so close to being employed again.
>
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>
> Kristi

I'm glad things are working out for you. More good luck purrs on the way.
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Jane - 09 Sep 2006 14:50 GMT
> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
> potential for me at the other place, etc....

Sounds like the 2nd place is the place for you this time.  Don't say
anything negative about the first place. If the 2nd place is closer to
home, mention the better commute. With today's gas prices, nobody's
gonna argue with that.
Never burn your bridges. You might need that other job someday.

And good luck!  I've never had 2 offers to consider like that. You are
in an enviable position.  Have fun, and keep up the vet tech journals!
Might be time to start a blog for us to read.

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Karen - 09 Sep 2006 15:01 GMT
If they ask why, just say, "I felt like I fit in with the staff there
and overall they seemed to need me more". Congrats on getting TWO
offers!
badwilson - 09 Sep 2006 15:49 GMT
Congratulations!  That's really great, but I knew it wouldn't take you
long to get another job.  I would take the 2nd one, seems like a better
fit, more fun and 3 days off a week is worth putting up with 10 hour
shifts.  Also, I would not tell them why you chose the other job, just
say something positive about the position that you did choose.
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> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm
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>
> Kristi
Susan M - 09 Sep 2006 19:16 GMT
Congratulations on the two offers.  I'm glad that you've decided on the
second clinic.  It sounds so much better than the first - after 20 years of
working, I always go with the happy workplace over anything else!  That's
great!

I echo what everyone else says - I wouldn't say anything but positives to
the first workplace since its a small world!

CONGRATULATIONS again.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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>
> Kristi
Ann - 09 Sep 2006 19:48 GMT
Congratulations on the job.
I think you should just tell clinic one that you have accepted another job.
No explanation is necessary. If they press you for a reason I would give a
general answer. No need to burn your bridges behind you.

Ann

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> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
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>
> Kristi
tanada - 10 Sep 2006 23:55 GMT
> Congratulations on the job.
> I think you should just tell clinic one that you have accepted another
> job. No explanation is necessary. If they press you for a reason I would
> give a general answer. No need to burn your bridges behind you.

I like the gas prices excuse, they don't need to know if it's true or not.
I also like the fact that you'll have the extra time to study for your
certification, boards, or whatever they call them.

Pam S. really jazzed for you Kristi
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 09 Sep 2006 20:20 GMT
> It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I think
> i'm gonna go with the second one.  The people there are kinder, and
> both times i was there not only did i learn a little bit, but I also
> had a little fun too.  I'm sure it can get crazy, but i feel that I
> could really grow there.  I'm guessing that i could eventually get used
> to ten hour shifts, too.

Wise choice, I think!  However well you get along with your
patients, its your fellow workers you must spend time with.

> Now the thing will be calling the first place on monday and letting
> them know that i won't be working with them.  I'm curious if I should
> tell them why.

Why volunteer more information than needed?  They already
know about the second offer, just tell then you've decided
to accept that one - that's all they really need to know.
(Suppose the job you take doesn't work out, and you are
offered the first one again, later?)  One thing to remember
in the business world is "Never burn your bridges" - you
never know when negative comments may return to haunt you!
Christina Websell - 09 Sep 2006 22:43 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
> a list of pros and cons of both places.  I told both places that I
> would sleep on it over the weekend and let them know on monday.

No contest IMHO.  Number 2 where the staff are nice.
Ten hour shifts are a bit of a bummer, but you at least get 3 days off.
Eight hour shifts are not worth it if you had a feeling that wouldn't get on
with colleagues.
Just my 2c worth.

Tweed
Sam - 10 Sep 2006 00:26 GMT
First of all, big-time congratulations on the offers.  We knew they
would come, even when you were so worried.

It sounds to me like the second offer would be a better fit for you,
even though you'll have to adjust to ten-hour shifts.  So much of a
successful work experience is liking what you do and where you're doing
it.  It sounds like the second place satisfies both of those criteria.

> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
> potential for me at the other place, etc....
>
> Hmmm.....

Before you say anything to the first place that could be even remotely
construed as derogatory, ask yourself if there is an upside for you to
say it.  I'm guessing there's not, so leave that part alone.  Just say
that you feel like the second place was "a better fit for your skills at
this time".

All of my comment are just my $0.02 worth and may be freely ignored.

> Thanks for all the support and purrs,
>
> Kristi

Purrs continuing that your new job turns out to be everything you hope for.

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CATherine - 10 Sep 2006 02:02 GMT
>It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I think
>i'm gonna go with the second one.  The people there are kinder, and
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>
>Kristi

The second job sounds ideal for you; personalities and job growth and
learning. I am so happy for you. You deserve to work in a happy,
relaxed atmoshere where you can do your best work. And better for the
patients, too. I really like the sound of the place as a customer.

Congrats and best wishes.

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Annie Wxill - 10 Sep 2006 02:05 GMT
...(snip)> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more potential
for me at the other place, etc....
> Kristi

Hi Kristi,

Congratulations on getting two job offers.  I don't see any advantage to
burning bridges with the first clinic.  It's a small world, and people talk.
Be sure to thank them for the offer.  Don't be critical in any way.  If they
ask, I think your response above about the potential or something similar
would be good.
Annie
Helen Miles - 10 Sep 2006 06:56 GMT
> It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I think
> i'm gonna go with the second one.  The people there are kinder, and
> both times i was there not only did i learn a little bit, but I also
> had a little fun too.  I'm sure it can get crazy, but i feel that I
> could really grow there.  I'm guessing that i could eventually get used
> to ten hour shifts, too.

Kristi, it's a complete no brainer. ;o) The second clinic sounds much
more the right one for you. :o)

> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
> potential for me at the other place, etc....////

No, just tell them that "thank you for the opportunity and the offer but
you feel that you are more suited to the other clinic." Don't tell them
about their attitude and opportunity as they won't thank you for it.

Helen M
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Sep 2006 08:37 GMT
> It's kinda weird, i've never had two job offers at once.  But I think
> i'm gonna go with the second one.  The people there are kinder, and
> both times i was there not only did i learn a little bit, but I also
> had a little fun too.  I'm sure it can get crazy, but i feel that I
> could really grow there.  I'm guessing that i could eventually get used
> to ten hour shifts, too.

Oh, yay! That's what I was going to suggest you do. The second place
sounds much better. Since you had problems with doctors with attitude
in the past, why walk into a situaiton where you already know that there
are people there who will probably give you more attitude? It sounds
like you can have a good working atmosphere, good opportunities for
learning, and a bit of fun, too, at the second place.

> Now the thing will be calling the first place on monday and letting
> them know that i won't be working with them.  I'm curious if I should
> tell them why.  The main reason is because of those incidents where
> those girls gave me attitude.

I would say no, don't tell them that. There's no reason to, since you're
not going to work there, so there's nothing to try to work out with them.
And why burn your bridges? Someday, you might find yourself wanting or
needing to work there. Or you might end up working with someone who is
now there, who might remember you and what you said, and that could cause
problems. I know it must be tempting to want to shove their face in it,
but resist that. Once you're happy in your new place, you won't care
about that anymore.

> So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
> choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
> potential for me at the other place, etc....

Needless to say, I vote for the second - just keep it positive.

Congratulations!!!

Joyce
Dewi - 10 Sep 2006 13:49 GMT
Congratulations!

Dewi.
Takayuki - 10 Sep 2006 19:48 GMT
>So should i mention this if the first clinic asks me why I didn't
>choose them?  Or shall I just say that I feel that there's more
>potential for me at the other place, etc....
>
>Hmmm.....

I'm very happy for you that you found some better places to work!

I personally wouldn't tell the first clinic anything - just send them
some nicely worded platitudes, but that you have decided on a
different offer.  Anything more is unusual and unnecessary.
meeee - 10 Sep 2006 21:42 GMT
Well, congratulations!! From reading your post, I'd say you already know
which one to go to. Attitude is a big part of a good workplace, and if they
can't be bothered to make any effort at all to welcome you, it mat only get
worse with time. Sounds like they have too many techs there anyway. And I
wouldn't mention the attitude thing; IMO they must already know and not
care. I wish you all the best at your new job! Also, if the second clinic
was willing to pay better up front, they probably will value you more; and
possibly the techs at the other centre are only getting $14 and may resent
you for getting paid ,more. Another headache you don't need. All the best!!

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polonca12000 - 10 Sep 2006 22:33 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
> a list of pros and cons of both places.  I told both places that I
> would sleep on it over the weekend and let them know on monday.
<snip>
> Kristi

I'm wishing you lots of luck with whichever job offer you take. I'm sure
you'll do great, Kristi.
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
tanada - 10 Sep 2006 23:46 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.  Both pay quite well and seem like good places.  So i'm making
> a list of pros and cons of both places.  I told both places that I
> would sleep on it over the weekend and let them know on monday.

I knew you could do this.  WTG, Sweetie.  I like your assessment of the
second clinic better than the first.  Enjoying your work is the most
important thing.  IF you are asked by the first clinic why you chose the
second one, I think I'd answer that the fit between you and your future
co-workers felt more comfortable.  That way you aren't dissing the first
clinic, and maybe someone will figure out that they need to clean up their
attitude.

Pam S.
Lesley - 11 Sep 2006 14:31 GMT
> Yep, as of Friday evening I now have TWO job offers from different
> clinics.

I wish I was in that position at the moment I have loads of interviews
but nothing definite and would be glad of one offer never mind two,
Still congratulations to you!

And I vote for the second job, it sounds nicer, you know you're not
sure about the people in the first one....And as someone says, if they
are getting $14 and it gets out that you are getting $15 unless, of
course, the first one then gives all its staff an extra $1 an hour to
match yours...in which case you will be the most popular person there!

Take the second one- you know  it makes sense

Lesley

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