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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / September 2006Boyfriend is disgruntled
because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not try and get an appointment to have him microchipped at the same time? I was lucky, there was just one ten minute appointment left today so I booked it. Poor lad. He turned like a snake, in a lightning move as soon as I put him in the carrier and nearly got out..I had to push him back and slam the door in his face which I felt bad about. He wowled and wailed all the way there, trying the mesh with his claws. I had put him on the passenger seat so he could see me but he suspected the snip again I think ;-) and he was not consolable. He wowled and wailed in the vet's waiting room until he saw a d*g. and then another d*g and then he became very quiet. Once in the surgery he came out of the carrier and hunkered down on the table. TED said she would check him for a microchip as he had been a lost kitty, but I knew he didn't have one as I had him checked when he went for the snip, but said go ahead anyway. There wasn't one. She asked me if I was happy to hold him while the procedure was done and I said yes. She looked at my bare arms and said she thought it would be a good idea if she asked a nurse to hold him as they sometimes react because the needle to insert the microchip is so large. So I said okay, if you think so, but I would be very surprised indeed if he scratched or bit, she said well, maybe, but just let's be safe. So the nurse held him while I stood next to him and touched his head. Boyfie did not flinch at all as his chip was put in. He did not move a muscle. It was probably because he was frightened. I dare say different cats react differently to these sorts of situations. Kitty Farmcat - in her prime - would certainly have shredded as much nursey/teddy skin as she could have reached in those circumstances. Boyfriend is a gentle and sensitive soul. Faced with such an assault from a human, far from fighting, he would prefer to faint. He wowled and wept all the way home, 20 minutes journey. Once in the house and out of the carrier he sat in the kitchen, contemplating meowmie's betrayal. He flounced up the stairs to the spare bed to rest. He was very, very disgruntled. After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and is now out on rat patrol! Tweed What a good boy! (Although all the wailing and wowling made me smile :) ) > because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there > anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Tweed > because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there > anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > had put him on the passenger seat so he could see me but he suspected the > snip again I think ;-) and he was not consolable. <snip> He flounced up the stairs to the spare bed to rest. He was very, > very disgruntled. > > After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and is now > out on rat patrol! > > Tweed Lots of calming purrs, Polonca and Soncek > because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go > there anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I > thought why not try and get an appointment to have him microchipped at > the same time? Purrs for dear Boyfie to find his missing gruntles soon - around these 'ere parts we have a superstition that they hole up in the wilds of Dartmoor, in the Great Grimpen Mire that Conan Doyle wrote about, to wreak frightening havoc amongst unsuspecting ramblers :) Purrs again for his speedy return to normal Gordon & the FF >> because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there >> anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Purrs again for his speedy return to normal > Gordon & the FF His gruntle is still gruntled. He has gone out into the wilds of Barkby Thorpe now (fields, woods) in a huff. I expect him home for breakfast. Tweed >>> because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there >>> anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Tweed Sometimes a guy just has to go kill something to feel better. KFC is looking forward to the doves Jo >>>> because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there >>>> anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Jo <grin> He came home okay without having to kill anything. KFC was disappointed.. Tweed SNIP > > Gordon & the FF > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tweed Maybe he feared TED was after his gruntles, this time. =o) I must say, I never thought being 'gruntled' made a person sound terribly happy. ;o) I hope he'll be in a happier frame of mind when he comes home, again. A good rat hunting session should help. Maybe he'll bring you a present, to show all is forgiven. Melissa > SNIP >> > Gordon & the FF [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maybe he feared TED was after his gruntles, this time. =o) Yes! > I must say, I never thought being 'gruntled' made a person sound > terribly happy. ;o) I don't think "gruntled" is a word, is it? I was just having a bit of fun with the language. If disgruntled is a word, which it is, then surely gruntled must be the opposite. > I hope he'll be in a happier frame of mind when he comes home, again. > A good rat hunting session should help. Maybe he'll bring you a > present, to show all is forgiven. No present but he is fine. All forgiven. Tweed <snip> > After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and > is now out on rat patrol! > > Tweed I'm glad Boyfie's chipping went smoothly and that he's now home and safe. I hope the chip remains an unnecessary precaution and he never gets lost.  SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > <snip> >> After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I > hope the chip remains an unnecessary precaution and he never gets lost. I dearly wanted Boyfie to have a microchip that would also take his temperature like your cats have. I told my vet about it a year ago at least but they refused to get it then. I waited to see if they would change their minds but they haven't, so he has just the ordinary one. I mentioned it to the TED that I saw tonight and she thought it was a great idea but she'd never heard of it. Arrrgh. Didn't notice my email about it then :-( Tweed >> <snip> >>> After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Tweed That's a pity, hopefully he won't need his temperature taken too often. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >> I dearly wanted Boyfie to have a microchip that would also take his >> temperature like your cats have. I told my vet about it a year ago [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >That's a pity, hopefully he won't need his temperature taken too often. How interesting! I can imagine a kind of telemetry chip that measures blood sugar, oxygen, heart rate, etc. :) Is it that taking their temperature the usual way too traumatic for cats? >>> I dearly wanted Boyfie to have a microchip that would also take his >>> temperature like your cats have. I told my vet about it a year ago [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > blood sugar, oxygen, heart rate, etc. :) Is it that taking their > temperature the usual way too traumatic for cats? I'm sure I wouldn't like it if I was a cat. Thinking about it, it wouldn't be much fun for a hoomin. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>> I dearly wanted Boyfie to have a microchip that would also take his >>> temperature like your cats have. I told my vet about it a year ago [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > blood sugar, oxygen, heart rate, etc. :) Is it that taking their > temperature the usual way too traumatic for cats? Any way that can avoid a cold glass instrument pushed up you-know-where has to be a good thing. Most cats don't like it - and who can blame them? Vets get slashed for doing it. It's different with d*gs. They are more people-orientated-obedience wise and usually tolerate it well. At least mine always did if I said "Now just stand still." They did. Tweed >because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there >anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >Tweed It's so distressing to hear them carry on like that, especially when they usually have such equanimity. Glad it went smoothly, and he's back on patrol. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War >>He wowled and wept all the way home, 20 minutes journey. Once in the >>house [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > they usually have such equanimity. Glad it went smoothly, and he's > back on patrol. He's absolutely fine now. I would have worried more if I hadn't heard him carry on just the same the last time he was in the car in a carrier going for his snip. I think he doesn't like being taken away from his home. He's a real homebird, he loves his home. I hated to hear him wowl, wail, and weep, but sometimes things have to be done that have to be done. Tweed > I think he doesn't like being taken away from his home. He's a real > homebird, he loves his home. Of course he does - he knows what the alternative is! Joyce >He wowled and wailed all the way there, trying the mesh with his claws. I >had put him on the passenger seat so he could see me but he suspected the >snip again I think ;-) and he was not consolable. >He wowled and wailed in the vet's waiting room until he saw a d*g. and then >another d*g and then he became very quiet. Poor boy! But he was very good. Having sat waiting in veterinary waiting rooms a lot during a short period, I noticed that a lot of cats are very cute when protesting being in a carrier. They are hopeful that someone will let them out if they appear extremely sad and helpless. >>He wowled and wailed all the way there, trying the mesh with his claws. I >>had put him on the passenger seat so he could see me but he suspected the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > hopeful that someone will let them out if they appear extremely sad > and helpless. I think that was his idea. Several people in the waiting room came to his carrier to say soothing words and they weren't all cat people. Tweed > because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there > anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Tweed Ow. Poor BF. So glad it went well. SignatureSam, closely supervised by Mistletoe > After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and is now > out on rat patrol! Aww, he's such a good boy! Glad everything went well. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Poor lad. He turned like a snake, in a lightning move as soon as I put him > in the carrier and nearly got out..I had to push him back and slam the door > in his face which I felt bad about. "Hey, Mom where are we going? heyheyheyHEYHEYHEY!!! PUTMEDOWNPUTMEDOWN!!!!!!!NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! > She asked me if I was happy to hold him while the procedure was done and I > said yes. She looked at my bare arms and said she thought it would be a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Boyfie did not flinch at all as his chip was put in. He did not move a > muscle. You are lucky. Some animals when they are suddenly are in pain will see red and attack ANYTHING in front of them, even their owners. And i've heard o people filing lawsuits and WINNING becasue they offered to hold their animal while the vet did something and of course the pet bites the owner. And the owner sues the vet saying 'if you hadn't done that to my pet or done it PROPERLY then he would have NEVER have bit me." > After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and is now > out on rat patrol! Let us know if if leaves you a carcass in your shoe.....hehehehe Kristi >> Poor lad. He turned like a snake, in a lightning move as soon as I put >> him [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > You are lucky. In what way? Because my vet offered for me to hold my cat? Or because Boyfriend didn't move a muscle? > Some animals when they are suddenly are in pain will > see red and attack ANYTHING in front of them, even their owners. I know that. KFC would probably have done this. There is no way at all I would hold her at the vet's for any procedure that might be painful. Boyfie is very different. He has no bad temper in him at all. He doesn't know the word. I was confident that he would not object with violence: I was willing to hold him myself. ~The nurse wasn't necessary after all. He kept completely still for the whole procedure, like I thought he would. > And > i've heard o people filing lawsuits and WINNING becasue they offered to > hold their animal while the vet did something and of course the pet > bites the owner. And the owner sues the vet saying 'if you hadn't done > that to my pet or done it PROPERLY then he would have NEVER have bit > me." I have never heard of this happening in Britain. If the vet offers to let me hold my animal for a procedure, I will do so. I think it's calming for them to have their owner holding them. If my animal/bird bit/scratched/pecked me during this, I would accept this as the price to pay for choosing to calm my pet. Sue them? It would never happen. >> After an hour's thought, he's back downstairs, chowed down a bit and is >> now >> out on rat patrol! > > Let us know if if leaves you a carcass in your shoe.....hehehehe Nothing in shoe. Boyfie is not spiteful. Tweed >> And >> i've heard o people filing lawsuits and WINNING becasue they offered to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > as the price to pay for choosing to calm my pet. > Sue them? It would never happen. I read something here in the paper recently (California) where employees at vets offices have been suing the owners of the animals if they are bit or scratched or injured while taking care of them. And the courts applied what they referred to as the "vets rule" in denying their claims. I take it that means your vet can't sue you if you animal injured them while they are providing treatment. It had never even entered my mind that employees at the vet might sue me. Jo >>> And >>> i've heard o people filing lawsuits and WINNING becasue they offered to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > at vets offices have been suing the owners of the animals if they are bit > or scratched or injured while taking care of them. Well. I am amazed by this. Surely if an animal is injured/very sick it may attack through pain or fright and isn't this something they have been trained to deal with? >And the courts applied > what they referred to as the "vets rule" in denying their claims. Good. > I take it that means your vet can't sue you if you animal injured them > while they are providing treatment. By definition, an animal at the vet is likely to be traumatised. Therefore likely to be unpredictable. Why would a vet sue you for that? > It had never even entered my mind that employees at the vet might sue me. Nor me. It just wouldn't happen here. If the nurses or vets get bitten, scratched, kicked by horses or knocked down by a cow they just take it as part of the job. No sueing of owners is ever involved. Why would it? Tweed > I read something here in the paper recently (California) where employees at > vets offices have been suing the owners of the animals if they are bit or > scratched or injured while taking care of them. And the courts applied > what they referred to as the "vets rule" in denying their claims. Yay!! I can't believe that an employee would actually sue the owner of a pet for a scratch or bite... hello? Did you not know what the risks were when you went into this field?? I'm glad the courts had some sense on this one. Sure, there might be some outlier cases here. Someone brings in a pit bull and says it's a total sweetie pie. During the exam, the dog mauls an employee badly and puts them in the hospital. Turns out the dog is actually part of a fighting ring, and the people lied. OK, I can see a lawsuit in that case. But how many cases are going to be like that?? This isn't about lawsuits, but it reminds me of a time when I brought my cat to a vet's office, and one of the techs picked her up to go weigh her. All of a sudden, the tech held my cat out away from her body and squealed, "Oh my god, she's shedding on my pants!" Now there's a career that probably didn't last very long... Joyce > > I read something here in the paper recently (California) where employees at > > vets offices have been suing the owners of the animals if they are bit or [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > actually part of a fighting ring, and the people lied. OK, I can see a > lawsuit in that case. But how many cases are going to be like that?? None, if the pit is a fighting dog. The old reprobates I knew who were in that field said that none of the dogs had any human-aggression. There are situations in a pit fight where a total stranger has to make the dogs separate. If a dog bites the man in that situation, the dog is put down. Of course, these were thirty-pound dogs, not the huge monsters that are now used as protection dogs, often badly trained and dangerous to anyone around. Of course, i have never met anyone who is involved in pit-fighting now and that all may have changed. > This isn't about lawsuits, but it reminds me of a time when I brought > my cat to a vet's office, and one of the techs picked her up to go weigh > her. All of a sudden, the tech held my cat out away from her body and > squealed, "Oh my god, she's shedding on my pants!" Now there's a career > that probably didn't last very long... LOL. I had a Malemute that shoulder-charged a vet tech and she simply sidestepped him and said "stop that" and he did. The good ones are indominatable. Will in New Haven For the original poster in this thread: Maggie May sends Boyfie a kiss on the neck. And some purrs. -- "Never try to outstubborn a cat." - Robert Heinlein "I am not stubborn, Mr. Heinlein, I am just in charge." - Feather > Joyce > > Sure, there might be some outlier cases here. Someone brings in a pit > > bull and says it's a total sweetie pie. During the exam, the dog mauls > > an employee badly and puts them in the hospital. Turns out the dog is > > actually part of a fighting ring, and the people lied. OK, I can see a > > lawsuit in that case. But how many cases are going to be like that?? > None, if the pit is a fighting dog. The old reprobates I knew who were > in that field said that none of the dogs had any human-aggression. OK, but there are certainly some pit bulls that have attacked humans, and usually the owners are responsible due to them having trained them to be aggressive toward humans. So perhaps I came up with a bad example, but there *do* exist examples where dogs have killed or badly mauled humans and that is obviously what I was talking about. Joyce > > > Sure, there might be some outlier cases here. Someone brings in a pit > > > bull and says it's a total sweetie pie. During the exam, the dog mauls [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce Sure, I was being pedantic, I guess you could say. A dog with a history of aggression toward humans would be, I think, grounds for a lawsuit in this situation. Especially if the vet isn't told. When my friend's sled dogs need handling by the vet, she lets the vets and the techs handle all but two. Those two would flat kill someone if they felt badly done by and she does all the handling when they are being worked on. Of course, they get worked on one at a time. Our cat Missy, hisser at primates, cannot be safely handled by strangers. For that matter, I am only safe handling her for the vet in the sense that she can't get at me if I keep the right grip. If we only had one cat we probably would find Missy distressing but she loves the other cats and Bear the d*g and we humble hoomans just stay out of her way. She doesn't quite weight four pounds and I am, if not afraid, cautious of her. If we didn't warn a vet or tech and let them handle Missy and someone got maimed, that person would be fully justified in suing us. Will in New Haven -- "Never try to outstubborn a cat." - Robert Heinlein "I am not stubborn, Mr. Heinlein, I am just in charge." - Feather > LOL. I had a Malemute that shoulder-charged a vet tech and she simply > sidestepped him and said "stop that" and he did. The good ones are > indominatable. The last time we took Speedy in for a check up, a lot of d-things were being brought in. Most got along well enough if the owners kept a good hand on their leashes, but one owner came in and let his d-thing loose while filling out forms. Some of us d-thing owners ended up taking our pets out for walkies so that there wouldn't be a massive dog fight. Nothing happened, but my imagination was working overtime with all the possibilities. Fortunately Mike and Mandy were with me and were able to take the Speedster outside so that he didn't attack from fear. Pam S. who has a total coward for a d-thing >This isn't about lawsuits, but it reminds me of a time when I brought >my cat to a vet's office, and one of the techs picked her up to go weigh >her. All of a sudden, the tech held my cat out away from her body and >squealed, "Oh my god, she's shedding on my pants!" Now there's a career >that probably didn't last very long... LOL! >> This isn't about lawsuits, but it reminds me of a time when I brought >> my cat to a vet's office, and one of the techs picked her up to go weigh [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > LOL! Oh my. Definitely not fitting in at the office. > This isn't about lawsuits, but it reminds me of a time when I brought > my cat to a vet's office, and one of the techs picked her up to go weigh [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joyce What? She didn't realize that being shed upon is a singular honor? Around here, fur is considered a condiment to be added to all food and drink. I've even tried to hork a hairball, much to the owners' amusement. Pam S. often honored HAHAHAHA OH PLEASE!!!! Hair, urine, feces, blood, vomit, you name it, it will happen and as a tech you better be ready for it. I will admit that on a few occasions there have been may icky things that i didn't like, But I've found that you just grit you teeth, get the job done, tie up or return the animal and THEN go "EWEWEWEWEWWWW!!!!" There have been times where i've had days where i feel so dirty that I head straight for hte shower once i get home. (WARNING!!!! GW BELOW!!!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!) I remember when I was just starting out and the doctor asked me to hod this dog's head up so he could draw blood form the neck. THis dog was drooling so much it was literally dripping. Ick!! I took a deep breath and jsut grabbed hold and prayed it would be over quick. Especially since the drool was dripping down my arm. BLEAH!!!! Then there was the dog whose entire underside was matted with feces. Oh yeah, THAT was a fun dog to hold (hinthint SARCASM) Or the dog with the major bloody nose and I had to take blood from his neck. All I could say as I prepared to stick him was "PLEASE don't sneeze on me....." He waited until after i was done and stood up to sneeze. Blood spotted scrubs....... And what about the dog who couldn't walk and when I was parting his fur to look for a wound and came upon a ton of maggots. I pratically screamed. And then I had to reach in with a rubber glove and try to scrape them off. I've cleaned up many icky messes and normally try to have a spare set of scrubs in the car. heh, I remember when my mom and I were shopping and I said I needed work shoes and we went into Foot locker and my mom held up a set of WHITE tennis shoes. "How about these? These will look nice with your scrubs." I started laughing and just said, "Uh, do you really know what i'm stepping in?" She just made a face and put them back. Yeah it's all the gross stuff that they kinda leave out when talking about a career as a vet technician. I remember when there was a dog that had GI problems and the vet said he smelled something and went into the kennels and came back with the dog and said. "Cassie just had a lot of diarrhea in her run." There also was a trail of poopy paw prints. I remember grimacing and jokingly saying as I was putting on rubber gloves "I don't remember this being in the job description....." The vet laughed and said "Oh yeah, well that was in the fine print." Hmph..... And they are called scrubs for a reason. hehehe Kristi Interesting. In spite of the yucky subject matter, I seem to detect a lighter mood in this. Are you feeling better about things in general? Joy > HAHAHAHA OH PLEASE!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Kristi Actually a little bit yeah I had a diferent working interveiw at a completely different clinic this monring and it went well. However, it was a slow day, so i asked if I could come back next week. They are smaller and not as complex as the other place. So we shall see...... Thank you for asking Kristi PS. Also I'm happy cause I got a new desk and put it into my roomie's old bedroom and made it my office. I got a huge L shaped desk for $45 (used) and just got a small tv for $15 (used) and I hooked up my Tivo so now I can watch tv again while i'm at the computer. OK i know it sounds weird, but i'm cleaning out the whole apartment and have taking lots of before and after pics. Once its' done i'll share them. I'm glad things are looking a little better. Joy > Actually a little bit yeah > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > have taking lots of before and after pics. Once its' done i'll share > them. Okay i haven't heard of this, but that's just WRONG Bites, scratches, and unexpected attacks come with the territory. Believe me, if i was afraid of getting bit, I wouldn't be in this field I don't see why a vet would sue an owner and the very concept is stupid. But then again, stupid concepts do seem to come to life Kristi >>> Poor lad. He turned like a snake, in a lightning move as soon as I put >>> him [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Nothing in shoe. Boyfie is not spiteful. I get *presents* in my shoe. ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War > I have never heard of this happening in Britain. If the vet offers to let > me hold my animal for a procedure, I will do so. I think it's calming for > them to have their owner holding them. > If my animal/bird bit/scratched/pecked me during this, I would accept this > as the price to pay for choosing to calm my pet. > Sue them? It would never happen. Probabaly not in Britain, But in southern California where people are sue happy, you never know. And also it depends on the cat. But I've been told many times that no matter what, even if you've known the animal and the animal knows you, stuff can still happen. Two workplaces ago, I found out why Dr. C wore a beard and mustache, cause he had a nice scar on his lip from when it had gotten torn open. A adult dog that he had know since he was a puppy had lunged toward his face and a tooth caught him on the lip. Now bear in mind this is hearsay, but the rule they always taught us is, "You never know" And like I said, in my corner of the world, people are kinda sue happy. Kristi > You are lucky. Some animals when they are suddenly are in pain will > see red and attack ANYTHING in front of them, even their owners. And [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that to my pet or done it PROPERLY then he would have NEVER have bit > me." I remember the first time Rusty had his temperature taken. The vet asked me to hold him while he put the thermometer in. I got bitten. Not enough to break the skin. Now I let others held him on the exam table. The first time they tried to draw blood, 3 persons held him. They failed. The vet said if Rusty fought like that, he couldn't be that sick. No blood was taken. Subsequent blood draws went better. Rusty is usually a very quiet cat, but not on the exam table. Winnie > because he's just been to TED. No, he isn't ill, but I had to go there > anyway to pick up KFC's prescription diet after work so I thought why not > try and get an appointment to have him microchipped at the same time? I > was lucky, there was just one ten minute appointment left today so I > booked it. Awww - poor BF but I'm glad he's chipped. I sure felt better when my two were chipped, even though they are tattooed and collared! I love the "flounced up the stairs" description! Susan M Otis and Chester |
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