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dmikhail3@gmail.com - 25 Aug 2006 22:11 GMT
Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
brushing him lately, with a wire kind of cat brush.  He loves it
scratched as much as i dare to press.  I can't find anything, and he
didn't have any problem at his annual checkup.  Is this just cat
weirdness, or might he be trying to scratch something that shouldn't be
there?  He's been this way for as long as I can remeber, and is an
indoor only cat.
Cheryl Perkins - 25 Aug 2006 22:15 GMT
> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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> there?  He's been this way for as long as I can remeber, and is an
> indoor only cat.

Some cats just like being scratched on the sides of their faces. I've
known one who adored being combed along the side of her face with
a metal cat comb, and would push against it if it wasn't used with
enough pressure.

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Karen - 25 Aug 2006 22:33 GMT
Seems like if you can't feel anything there it's probably just "his spot".
With Pearl it is the very tip of her chin. She would let me rub that for
hours if I would.

> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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> there?  He's been this way for as long as I can remeber, and is an
> indoor only cat.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 25 Aug 2006 22:34 GMT
> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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> there?  He's been this way for as long as I can remeber, and is an
> indoor only cat.

I've never met a cat who didn't LOVE having its cheek scratched. I'm
sure they must get a lot of pleasure from rubbing their cheeks against
things, since that's where they have major scent glands. Leaving their
scent on things plays an important role in the cat social world, so they
need to have some motivation to do it!

I wouldn't worry at all if I were you. Just let him rub his cheek
against the brush as much as he likes. (Licky loves this, too, and so
does Smudge.) Hey, and he might even like it on his LEFT cheek too! :)

Joyce
dmikhail3@gmail.com - 25 Aug 2006 23:01 GMT
>  > Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
>  > his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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>
> Joyce

Left cheek is barely acceptable when his right one can get attention.
Karen - 26 Aug 2006 03:06 GMT
>>> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
>>> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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>
> Left cheek is barely acceptable when his right one can get attention.

Well, Pearl is happy with me poking/holding her right ear for blood
testing but she HATEs her left ear to be held.
jmcquown - 26 Aug 2006 00:36 GMT
> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much
> favored his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.
> I've been brushing him lately, with a wire kind of cat brush.  He
> loves it scratched as much as i dare to press.  I can't find
> anything, and he didn't have any problem at his annual checkup.  Is
> this just cat weirdness

Yes, it's just cat weirdness!  Just like Persia taps me on the face using
her right paw, rarely her left paw.  And when I brush her she tends to lean
more into the brushing on the left side of her face & neck rather than the
right side.  Go figure :)

Jill
Jo Firey - 26 Aug 2006 01:31 GMT
> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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> there?  He's been this way for as long as I can remeber, and is an
> indoor only cat.

My daughter and I both have acrylic nails.  The cats are wild about them and
insist that we not only scratch them but really dig.

Jo
dmikhail3@gmail.com - 26 Aug 2006 02:01 GMT
Lol jo, thanks for the warning, I better watch the nails on any
potential dates!

> > Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> > his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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>
> Jo
dmikhail3@gmail.com - 26 Aug 2006 02:05 GMT
Sorry for the dumb comment, i haven't slept much in the last few days,
please forgive.

> Lol jo, thanks for the warning, I better watch the nails on any
> potential dates!
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> >
> > Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 26 Aug 2006 03:04 GMT
> My daughter and I both have acrylic nails.  The cats are wild about them and
> insist that we not only scratch them but really dig.

That's the ticket! I've been trying to grow my nails for years so that
Smudge would like me better. :) But my nails are really pathetic and they're
always breaking. I don't bite them, they just tear on things and split
apart, etc. I even give myself regular manicures to keep the edges smooth,
but it doesn't really help. At least I do have some nail, which Smudge
enjoys getting scratched with. I can't grow them too long because I work
at a computer and really can't type well when my nails are too long. But
they could definitely be longer than they usually are.

Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Aug 2006 05:22 GMT
> That's the ticket! I've been trying to grow my nails for years so
> that Smudge would like me better. :) But my nails are really
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> really can't type well when my nails are too long. But they could
> definitely be longer than they usually are.

Could you have a vitamin deficiency?

My nails are also always breaking and tearing (although I *do* help by
nibbling and picking at them), and have slight ridges.  Turns out it
might be vitamin deficiency stemming from the Crohn's.  I'm now taking
a multivitamin, a b-complex liquid including b-12, calcium, and a
bunch of other stuff to see if it helps.  There's also a deficiency
test you can take, which I plan on taking soon.

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Marina - 26 Aug 2006 05:44 GMT
>> That's the ticket! I've been trying to grow my nails for years so
>> that Smudge would like me better. :) But my nails are really
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> bunch of other stuff to see if it helps.  There's also a deficiency
> test you can take, which I plan on taking soon.

Calcium deficiency was what I was thinking. Do you use dairy products,
Joyce?

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 26 Aug 2006 10:47 GMT
> >> That's the ticket! I've been trying to grow my nails for years so
> >> that Smudge would like me better. :) But my nails are really
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> Calcium deficiency was what I was thinking. Do you use dairy products,
> Joyce?

Yes, I do. I have milk every day, plus cheese and yogurt. Dairy's a
significant part of my diet.

I was wondering if I should take gelatin. But B vitamins might also be
helpful. My nails have always been like this, btw. I used to try to grow
them long in high school and later on, and never could.

I sure hope I don't have a calcium deficiency - I'm getting to that age
where I have to start worrying about osteoporosis. At least that's a
benefit of being heavy - I'm doing weight-bearing exercise anytime I
get up and move around. :) But that might not be enough. I'm a white
woman with a medium build - not the highest risk group, but still up
there.

Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Aug 2006 16:20 GMT
> > Calcium deficiency was what I was thinking. Do you use dairy
> > products, Joyce?
>
> Yes, I do. I have milk every day, plus cheese and yogurt. Dairy's a
> significant part of my diet.

I've read that dairy is actually not a good source of absorbable
calcium, because you need to take it with magnesium in order for it to
do you any good.  

Spinach actually has more calcium per serving.

You have to be careful with calcium, especially as supplements,
because calcium that isn't absorbed properly can lead to kidney
stones.

Anyway, that's what I've gotten out of the various materials I've
read.  You know how it is -- half the books and sites say one thing,
half the other.

Speaking of which, here's a rather confusing article.  Apparently
calcium is both vital and very dangerous:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html

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Winnie - 26 Aug 2006 16:38 GMT
> I've read that dairy is actually not a good source of absorbable
> calcium, because you need to take it with magnesium in order for it to
> do you any good.

I read that when you take a calcium supplement, you should take it with
magnesiums so
that the ratio is Ca:Mg is 2:1. The Mg helps to prevent constipation
from the Ca.

> Spinach actually has more calcium per serving.
>
> You have to be careful with calcium, especially as supplements,
> because calcium that isn't absorbed properly can lead to kidney
> stones.

I read that it is recommended to take calcium with a meal to avoid
kidney stones. My doctor
at one time didn't want me to take calcium because of concern  for
stones, until my risk factor for osteoporosis increased with age.  I am
underweight and have small bones. I stopped drinking milk because of my
lactose intolerance. But I drink fortified soy milk which has
comparable amount of calcium in it, and I eat yogurt every day. I also
take a calcium supplement which has Mg and vitamin D in it. My last 3
bone density scans showed "bone density of a young adult". So I must be
doing something right.  I also walk quite a bit as I don't have a car.
Recently my exercise classes also  include weights.

> Anyway, that's what I've gotten out of the various materials I've
> read.  You know how it is -- half the books and sites say one thing,
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>
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 26 Aug 2006 21:04 GMT
>> Yes, I do. I have milk every day, plus cheese and yogurt. Dairy's a
>> significant part of my diet.

> I've read that dairy is actually not a good source of absorbable
> calcium, because you need to take it with magnesium in order for it to
> do you any good.  

If I do take calcium supplements, they also have magnesium and vitamin
D in the mix. But when I run out, I don't always get around to replacing
them, which is something I should do now...

Joyce
jmcquown - 28 Aug 2006 02:59 GMT
>  >> Yes, I do. I have milk every day, plus cheese and yogurt. Dairy's
>  a >> significant part of my diet.
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>
> Joyce

My doctor told me to take 2 Tums or similiar (heartburn tablets) per day.
Has as much calcium as calcium supplements and costs a heck of a lot less.
And you won't get heartburn from the chili I made last week ;)

Jill <---loves her milk, spinach, too
Cheryl Perkins - 28 Aug 2006 11:41 GMT
> My doctor told me to take 2 Tums or similiar (heartburn tablets) per day.
> Has as much calcium as calcium supplements and costs a heck of a lot less.
> And you won't get heartburn from the chili I made last week ;)

> Jill <---loves her milk, spinach, too

Mine recommended a supplement including vitamin D for best absorption, and
they come pretty cheap if you look for the sales at the drugstore,
especially of their own brand, althought once in a while one of the big
name brands is cheaper. There's an astonishing range of prices out there
for basically the same supplement!

I'm not actually much into supplements, being of the 'eat a good diet and
get them that way' school, but I swear the modern-day signs of aging
include going to your GP for a routine check, and being told you're the
right age for a baseline bone density test, calcium supplements, regular
attendance at the special breast clinic for Ladies of a Certain Age (not
its official name!), and, oh, yes, let's just look at your cholesterol
readings too.

So I take the calcium + vitimin D, two tablets a day with meals.

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Takayuki - 27 Aug 2006 04:57 GMT
>Could you have a vitamin deficiency?
>
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>bunch of other stuff to see if it helps.  There's also a deficiency
>test you can take, which I plan on taking soon.

It sounds like a variety of things can be attributed to some diseases!
It's good you got yours diagnosed.
Monique Y. Mudama - 27 Aug 2006 05:41 GMT
>>Could you have a vitamin deficiency?
>>
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> It sounds like a variety of things can be attributed to some
> diseases!  It's good you got yours diagnosed.

Yeah, I guess so.  Or maybe not.  I mean, maybe once you find out
about something, you start trying to pin everything on it.

I've been taking supplements for a few weeks now, and it *feels* like
my fingernails are smoother.  But I'm pretty sure that's completely
impossible; must be my imagination, no?  I mean, I assume the way
fingernails grow, the top, white part must be several months old.  So
how could my whole fingernail already feel smoother?

Anyway, I'm just not sure the deficiency theory computes ... my hair
grows like a weed, even though I only remember to brush it once or
twice a week, and everyone tells me I have great hair.  Aren't hair
and fingernails made from the same stuff?  Wouldn't my hair be ratty
if I had a deficiency?

*sigh* just more confusion.

My doctor also encouraged me to drink more water.  I feel like a
walking hydration pack *gurgle, gurgle*.

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Christina Websell - 27 Aug 2006 00:07 GMT
> > My daughter and I both have acrylic nails.  The cats are wild about them
> > and
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>
> Joyce

If your nails are not very strong it might benefit you to eat gelatine every
day. I don't know what form it comes in in the USA, but here in Britain we
can buy Jelly cubes, this is something that you can make a fruit flavoured
wobbly thing in a mould from.  I know you call jelly in USA what we call jam
so what is English jelly called?
Jelly cubes are made of flavoured gelatine (any flavour you like,
strawberry, lime, raspberry, lemon, younameit)
Eat a few cubes daily (if you can get it) it will really help the strength
of your nails.

Tweed
William Hamblen - 27 Aug 2006 01:27 GMT
>If your nails are not very strong it might benefit you to eat gelatine every
>day. I don't know what form it comes in in the USA, but here in Britain we
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>Eat a few cubes daily (if you can get it) it will really help the strength
>of your nails.

Around here, jelly is made from fruit juice, sugar and pectin.  Jam is
made from fruit pulp, fruit juice, sugar and pectin, which makes Jam
more solid than Jelly.  "It Must Be Jelly ('Cause Jam Don't Shake Like
That)"  Gelatin is made from animal bones and hooves.  I guess they
still have Knox unflavored gelatin, which used to be recommended to
girls who wanted long fingernails.  Otherwise there is Jell-O.  I
guess the idea that gelatin is good for fingernails comes from the
fact that gelatin is crude protein made in part from the bovine
equivalent of a fingernail.

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Katrina - 27 Aug 2006 01:45 GMT
> If your nails are not very strong it might benefit you to eat gelatine
> every day. I don't know what form it comes in in the USA, but here in
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>
> Tweed

Well, technically, we'd call it "flavored gelatine", or "dessert
gelatine" but "Jello" is the brand name and has become a sort of
generic title for it.

Katrina

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Monique Y. Mudama - 27 Aug 2006 05:35 GMT
> Well, technically, we'd call it "flavored gelatine", or "dessert
> gelatine" but "Jello" is the brand name and has become a sort of
> generic title for it.

Plus Bill Cosby has done some great ads for them!

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sriddles@aol.com - 26 Aug 2006 05:28 GMT
> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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> there?  He's been this way for as long as I can remeber, and is an
> indoor only cat.

He reminds me of Bootsie. I bought her a self-scratcher that I bet Dino
would like, too. It's called a "Cat-a-Comb". It's a plastic thingy with
bristles that you stick to a corner. There's a little pocket in it for
catnip. They can rub their faces on it. Boots absolutely adores it. It
is always full of black hair.

Sherry
dmikhail3@gmail.com - 26 Aug 2006 07:53 GMT
Hmm sounds interesting Sherry, but they don't seem to like it as much
if they have to do it themselves :)  Still maybe I'll check it out.

> > Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
> > his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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>
> Sherry
badwilson - 26 Aug 2006 11:50 GMT
>> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much
>> favored his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.
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>
> Sherry

I have one of these and it's mounted on a leg of my desk.  Vino
absolutely loves it!  It's the best piece of cat merchandise I've ever
bought.  He rubs on it for ages and really digs in on his cheeks.  So
sad that he has to resort to self scritching ;-)
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Kreisleriana - 26 Aug 2006 15:40 GMT
>> Dino loves the normal face scratching, but has always very much favored
>> his right cheek scratched.  He's extremely thick furred.  I've been
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>
>Sherry

Would you call Bootsie "funky"?    Does he enjoy George Clinton? ;)

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