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Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Aug 2006 21:06 GMT I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you find in some restaurants, with angled corners (that work really well for cornering that last tiny bit of pasta, etc).
I'm thinking the best/cheapest place to find dishwasher-able stuff like this is a restaurant supplier.
Anyone have any ideas?
At the very least, I would want square plates and some kind of bowls to go with them, maybe square, I dunno, and probably some salad plates and such wouldn't be bad, either. And I'd want enough to really stock a house, so 10 of each or something like that. On cooking.com I'm seeing stuff I like, but it's $45 for 2 plates! Eek!
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Karen - 20 Aug 2006 21:28 GMT > I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down > dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > a house, so 10 of each or something like that. On cooking.com I'm > seeing stuff I like, but it's $45 for 2 plates! Eek! I absolutely adore square plates. When I was home, my mom had bought some white square plates at Target. I LOVE THEM. Everyone ooed and awed over my meals and how pretty they were, but I didn't do anything special, it was just the dishes that made them look pretty. The edges turn way up so you don't get spillage if you slip. She had four big ones and four luncheon sized ones. I keep meaning to get to Target because I want some too. They are great.
sriddles@aol.com - 20 Aug 2006 22:47 GMT > > I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down > > dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > ones and four luncheon sized ones. I keep meaning to get to Target > because I want some too. They are great. I've decided that white dinnerware is just more elegant and makes a much prettier presentation. I always gravitated toward the pretty patterns though. If I ever get to buy a new set I'd buy white. All my dishes are such a mix-match though. For everyday we use the blue willow type courier & ives stuff. They're probably 50 years old by now, as they were hand-me-downs to me. I have "jelly glasses" from the 1950's that I like to use. I don't remember ever breaking a dish in my whole married life. (I hope I didn't jinx myself just then)
Sherry Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 21 Aug 2006 08:39 GMT > I like to use. I don't remember ever breaking a dish in my > whole married life. Wow, that's a peaceful marriage! :)
Joyce
Sam - 22 Aug 2006 03:47 GMT > I've decided that white dinnerware is just more elegant and makes a > much prettier presentation. I always gravitated toward the pretty [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Sherry > Sherry Said the lady who jinxed mechanical contraptions the world over when hers went "on the fritz" ;)
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Karen - 20 Aug 2006 21:31 GMT > I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down > dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > a house, so 10 of each or something like that. On cooking.com I'm > seeing stuff I like, but it's $45 for 2 plates! Eek! Oh, and I think she said she paid 4 dollars a plate.
I think it is these
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-2/qid=1156105768/ref=sr_1_2/602-950885 3-9955026?%5Fencoding=UTF8&asin=B000BHIQI0
Winnie - 20 Aug 2006 23:27 GMT > I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down > dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you > find in some restaurants, with angled corners (that work really well > for cornering that last tiny bit of pasta, etc). I still have a dinner plate, cup & saucer set from my college days. That was a long long time ago.
> I'm thinking the best/cheapest place to find dishwasher-able stuff > like this is a restaurant supplier. > Anyone have any ideas? I got cheap dishes and glasses from Ikea. They don't look bad either. But nothing fancy. Got one small glass for 75c. Even better than what I can get from the dollar store.
> At the very least, I would want square plates and some kind of bowls > to go with them, maybe square, I dunno, and probably some salad plates > and such wouldn't be bad, either. And I'd want enough to really stock > a house, so 10 of each or something like that. On cooking.com I'm > seeing stuff I like, but it's $45 for 2 plates! Eek! Will you be microwaving with a plate? Round dishes work better with microwave. Something to keep in mind.
Winnie
> -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Aug 2006 20:16 GMT >> I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down >> dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I still have a dinner plate, cup & saucer set from my college days. > That was a long long time ago. I have a few things left over from college (which I guess was less than 10 years ago, wow!). Mostly a few bowl-sized mugs, great for cereal, soup, and finger food type snacks.
>> I'm thinking the best/cheapest place to find dishwasher-able stuff >> like this is a restaurant supplier. Anyone have any ideas? > > I got cheap dishes and glasses from Ikea. They don't look bad > either. But nothing fancy. Got one small glass for 75c. Even > better than what I can get from the dollar store. I didn't think of Ikea for dishes. Good idea!
> Will you be microwaving with a plate? Round dishes work better with > microwave. Something to keep in mind. I guess it depends on how the plate fits in the microwave. That's something to consider, though.
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jmcquown - 21 Aug 2006 16:38 GMT > I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down > dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you > find in some restaurants, with angled corners (that work really well > for cornering that last tiny bit of pasta, etc). Sometimes hand me down isn't the best thing. I have this god awful china. It belonged to my Scottish grandmother and I HATE it. A couple of people over on rec.food.cooking want it... I'm like, okay, pay for the shipping! 16 place settings of hideously ugly china. Sorry, it's not square. It's just ugly. Grandma was married in the Victorian era when everything was rather gauche.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Myott-Son-Chelsea-Bird-Green-Plate-Myotts-Antique-NICE_W0QQi temZ7323305607QQcmdZViewItem
http://tinyurl.com/rnnfr
> I'm thinking the best/cheapest place to find dishwasher-able stuff > like this is a restaurant supplier. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a house, so 10 of each or something like that. On cooking.com I'm > seeing stuff I like, but it's $45 for 2 plates! Eek! Keep in mind restaurants write off these items as business expenses. Check WalMart or Target (as has already been suggested). Definitely stay away from places like Williams Sonoma; they charge a fortune for something as simple as a placemat! Oh, you might look at some Asian shops. I got my brother a set of 8 celadon green dinner plates, salad plates, soup bowls and those fun little soup spoons and only paid about $50 for the entire set. That was a while ago, but you can find some good deals at the Asian markets. He liked the set so much he went out and found a matching saki set and tea pot :)
Jill
William Hamblen - 21 Aug 2006 17:13 GMT >Keep in mind restaurants write off these items as business expenses. Restaurants don't buy from the expensive places, either. Look in the Yellow Pages for "Restaurant Supply". Restaurant supply companies are used to selling larger orders than you might want to buy and most sell only to businesses.
Bud
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jmcquown - 21 Aug 2006 17:29 GMT >> Keep in mind restaurants write off these items as business expenses. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bud I never broke a plate when I was serving but I can tell you a lot of plates got chipped and/or broken and had to be tossed. Still, there are supply places that will sell a service for 8 or 10... just call ahead.
Jill
Jo Firey - 21 Aug 2006 21:49 GMT >>Keep in mind restaurants write off these items as business expenses. > > Restaurants don't buy from the expensive places, either. Look in the > Yellow Pages for "Restaurant Supply". Restaurant supply companies are > used to selling larger orders than you might want to buy and most sell > only to businesses. We have a small restaurant supply place in town called Cash and Carry.
They are a chain and are aimed at the small bars and restaurants and non chain fast food joints and coffee shops.
They sell inexpensive dishes, glassware and cutlery as well as large size cans and packages and portion controlled meat and seafood. They also sell all sorts of take out type packaging. The small clear plastic glasses with lids are great for pudding or jello.
They also have the best deal in town on bottled water so we are in there fairly often.
I completely gave up using "the good china" when the grandsons started living here along with their friends. We use a lot of paper plates and bowls and plastic glasses and cutlery. Otherwise the dishwasher would be going non stop. As it is the real forks and spoons disappear at an alarming rate. As well as glasses. Most but never all are found out in the yard on under their beds or in their closets. Then again stuff I didn't buy shows up fairly often too.
The talk a few weeks ago about proper wine glasses made me nostalgic for the good old days. When I could count on drinking wine out of a real glass. I think the only actual crystal in the house are an odd number of proper Waterford cut crystal sherry glasses. Bought about a century ago by Charlie's ex at the factory.
Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 21 Aug 2006 23:03 GMT > The talk a few weeks ago about proper wine glasses made me nostalgic for the > good old days. When I could count on drinking wine out of a real glass. I > think the only actual crystal in the house are an odd number of proper > Waterford cut crystal sherry glasses. Bought about a century ago by > Charlie's ex at the factory. There's something I really like, though, about drinking red wine from a regular glass (ie, not a wine glass). I use a short glass. It has the feel of "washing your food down with wine", which is a totally different feel from the "delicate sipping" you get from a nice wine glass. My friend calls my way of drinking it "Italian style".
Joyce
mlbriggs - 21 Aug 2006 18:08 GMT >> I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down >> dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like you [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Jill Many years ago, I bought plain white, open stock Corning Ware. I have had a dish drop into the sink and another time drop to the floor without breaking. Corning Ware today also has interesting, simple patterns. I suggest you take a look at it. MLB
jmcquown - 21 Aug 2006 18:36 GMT >>> I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down >>> dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> was >> rather gauche. http://cgi.ebay.com/Myott-Son-Chelsea-Bird-Green-Plate-Myotts-Antique-NICE_W0QQi temZ7323305607QQcmdZViewItem
>> http://tinyurl.com/rnnfr >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > I > suggest you take a look at it. MLB Are you speaking of Corelle Dinnerware? My mom bought some in the 1970's and challenged their claim about not breaking. I still have this funny image of her throwing plates on the floor attempting to break them. They were my first dishes. Hey, they have square ones!
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?dest=9999999997&product_id=4861296&sou rceid=0100000030910868202498
http://tinyurl.com/ottlc
Jill
Magic Mood Jeep© - 21 Aug 2006 18:46 GMT >>>> I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down >>>> dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > Jill A bit of (useless) trivia about Corelle dinnerware:
The material that these dishes is made from was originally developed to be used a heat shields on the space (as of yet unveiled) shuttle. Alas, while durable, they were not good insulation against the extremely high temperatures the shuttle must survive during re-entry. then I guess some employee must have said jokingly "but they make good plates" - and a new line of tableware was born!
And yes, they do have square, in 4 different 'patterns'
http://www.corelle.com/index.asp?pageId=92
mlbriggs - 21 Aug 2006 19:51 GMT >>>> I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down >>>> dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Jill Yes -= Corelle made by CorningWare. I still have the original ones and they look as god as new. MLB
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Aug 2006 20:04 GMT > Are you speaking of Corelle Dinnerware? My mom bought some in the > 1970's and challenged their claim about not breaking. I still have [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/ottlc Those are nice, but I challenge your definition of square!
I really am looking for ones that have an actual seam, and four straight lines where each side meets. I mean, not straight up, out at an angle of course, but I want there to be an actual edge into which noodles can be pushed to ease in the collection thereof ...
Does that make any sense? Probably not. Sigh.
Here's an example of what I mean:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5007529
In fact, that particular set sorely tempts me, even though I find the cups and saucers pretty much useless. Hrmm.
It turns out that DH has issues with spending money on new dishware, and for some reason adores the hand me downs ("I've been eating off of these plates for 30 years!"), so it may take some bargaining to get to the point of actually having the plates I want ...
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Winnie - 21 Aug 2006 20:32 GMT > Those are nice, but I challenge your definition of square! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > these plates for 30 years!"), so it may take some bargaining to get to > the point of actually having the plates I want ... You can always ask for these plates as your Christmas or birthday presents. Yup I just bought my first Christmas present this year, while the summer sale is still on.
Winnie
mlbriggs - 22 Aug 2006 00:54 GMT >> Are you speaking of Corelle Dinnerware? My mom bought some in the >> 1970's and challenged their claim about not breaking. I still have [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > these plates for 30 years!"), so it may take some bargaining to get to > the point of actually having the plates I want ... Tell him you are going to write a letter to Santa Clause because that is what you want for Christmas. MLB
Marina - 22 Aug 2006 03:53 GMT >> Are you speaking of Corelle Dinnerware? My mom bought some in the >> 1970's and challenged their claim about not breaking. I still have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5007529 We have some deep dishes that are square like that, out on the island. They are h*ll to wash by hand (we don't have electricity or running water out there). If something has stuck and dried in one of the corners it's just impossible to clean. I hate those dishes.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Sep 2006 00:20 GMT > We have some deep dishes that are square like that, out on the > island. They are h*ll to wash by hand (we don't have electricity or > running water out there). If something has stuck and dried in one of > the corners it's just impossible to clean. I hate those dishes. What about soaking them?
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Marina - 05 Sep 2006 05:26 GMT >> We have some deep dishes that are square like that, out on the >> island. They are h*ll to wash by hand (we don't have electricity or >> running water out there). If something has stuck and dried in one of >> the corners it's just impossible to clean. I hate those dishes. > > What about soaking them? Soaking them would be good if I could only convince everyone else that soaking dishes is a good idea. ;o) Too often I go to wash the dishes and find dried, crusty plates waiting for me.
Then again, since we depend on rain water for washing purposes, sometimes we have to ration water when there is a drought (like this summer). Of course, when we run out of rain water, we have to use sea water, but that has to be lugged up a steep hill in buckets, and sea water is also too hard. It doesn't wash as well as rain water.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Sep 2006 08:16 GMT >> What about soaking them? >> > Soaking them would be good if I could only convince everyone else that > soaking dishes is a good idea. ;o) Too often I go to wash the dishes and > find dried, crusty plates waiting for me. OK, I'm confused. I thought you lived alone! Who are these other people who leave plates with crusty food in the sink?
Joyce
Marina - 05 Sep 2006 09:35 GMT > OK, I'm confused. I thought you lived alone! Who are these other people > who leave plates with crusty food in the sink? I live alone in town, but on the island I have to share a kitchen with anyone who happens to be staying in my mother's cabin (I sleep in a separate shed, because my sister is often staying at the cabin, and her cats and mine don't mix. Actually, I prefer staying in the shed by myself). We also share household chores, such as cooking and washing dishes.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Sep 2006 18:15 GMT > I live alone in town, but on the island I have to share a kitchen with > anyone who happens to be staying in my mother's cabin (I sleep in a > separate shed, because my sister is often staying at the cabin, and her > cats and mine don't mix. Ah, the island. OK! :) It must be nice to get a mix of time alone, and then have some time you're sharing with other people. I would like that, anyway. At the beginning of the summer, I would enjoy being with people after living alone for the past year, but by the end of the summer, I'd be glad to get back to my own space! :)
Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Sep 2006 04:58 GMT > Soaking them would be good if I could only convince everyone else > that soaking dishes is a good idea. ;o) Too often I go to wash the > dishes and find dried, crusty plates waiting for me. Eww.
You know what drives me nuts? Milk sitting in glasses. Ewwww it grosses me out so badly. DH drinks milk a lot. I get grossed out a lot.
> Then again, since we depend on rain water for washing purposes, > sometimes we have to ration water when there is a drought (like this > summer). Of course, when we run out of rain water, we have to use > sea water, but that has to be lugged up a steep hill in buckets, and > sea water is also too hard. It doesn't wash as well as rain water. Seems like a water shortage would be an ideal time to soak, since it does a lot of the work without having to run water. But I've never actually been in that position, so I don't know.
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Winnie - 21 Aug 2006 20:40 GMT > >> Keep in mind restaurants write off these items as business expenses. > >> Check [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> those fun little soup spoons and only paid about $50 for the entire > >> set. Those soup spoons are designed so the spoon handle won't get hot when you drink hot (temperature-wise) soup. Someone told me they are more ergonomic than 'western' spoons. There is an area in China which is famous for their dinner wares. Something to do with the clay.
> >> That was a while ago, but you can find some good deals at the Asian > >> markets. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > image of her throwing plates on the floor attempting to break them. They > were my first dishes. Hey, they have square ones! Reminds me of how dishes were thrown to the ground in some Greek dances. I saw dancers did that in the annual summer Greek fest here.
Winnie
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?dest=9999999997&product_id=4861296&sou rceid=0100000030910868202498 > > http://tinyurl.com/ottlc > > Jill Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Sep 2006 00:21 GMT > Those soup spoons are designed so the spoon handle won't get hot > when you drink hot (temperature-wise) soup. Someone told me they are > more ergonomic than 'western' spoons. There is an area in China > which is famous for their dinner wares. Something to do with the > clay. I love the look of those wide spoons, but they're typically too big for me to use comfortably. I have a small mouth!
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Takayuki - 05 Sep 2006 03:40 GMT >> Those soup spoons are designed so the spoon handle won't get hot >> when you drink hot (temperature-wise) soup. Someone told me they are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I love the look of those wide spoons, but they're typically too big >for me to use comfortably. I have a small mouth! I don't know about everyone else, but when eating soup, I don't usually put an entire large soup spoon in my mouth. :)
Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Sep 2006 05:12 GMT >>I love the look of those wide spoons, but they're typically too big >>for me to use comfortably. I have a small mouth! > > I don't know about everyone else, but when eating soup, I don't > usually put an entire large soup spoon in my mouth. :) Maybe it's the high sides or something. I don't think I put the whole spoon in my mouth, but I do find them annoying to use. What can I say; I'm a freak!
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Jo Firey - 21 Aug 2006 21:49 GMT >>>> I've realized that I'd really like to start using non-hand-me-down >>>> dishes. I've also realized that I really want square plates like [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Jill I promise you they do break. Only time I ever threw anything at anyone in anger I threw a saucer at Charlie. BTW I can't throw worth a darn. It hit the floor and broke in half. Cooled me right down. Corning did replace it. I also had the handle break off one of their cups.
I still have the whole set. Stupid things can't go in the microwave.
Jo
jmcquown - 21 Aug 2006 23:12 GMT > I promise you they do break. Only time I ever threw anything at > anyone in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jo Why on earth not? I used mine in the microwave all the time, no problems.
Jill
mlbriggs - 22 Aug 2006 01:56 GMT >> I promise you they do break. Only time I ever threw anything at >> anyone in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jill The only corning ware that broke for me was a teapot that I had used for many years. I do use mine in the microwave but only for short heating. I really don't "cook" anything anymore. MLB
Jane - 22 Aug 2006 14:28 GMT > Are you speaking of Corelle Dinnerware? My mom bought some in the 1970's > and challenged their claim about not breaking. I still have this funny [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Oh man! I love them! I love Corelle! However, I already have a full set of octagonal black dishes that I love, complete with matching serving bowl, and what would I do with two sets of dishes? Hmm.....it's been quite a few years. Maybe it's time for a change? Don't tempt me! I'm trying to SAVE money!! Argh.
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