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Cats stalking large game
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Ted Davis - 18 Oct 2004 14:40 GMT There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right.
Well, just such a thing played itself out in my back yard Sunday evening: two of my cats stalked, and spooked, one of the four deer that were grazing in my back yard - closer than I have ever seen before (the closest was about 60 feet from the back door). I was able to get three poor but usable pictures and I made them into a web page: <http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/041017/Cats_Stalking_Deer.html>.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Oct 2004 21:04 GMT > Well, just such a thing played itself out in my back yard Sunday > evening: two of my cats stalked, and spooked, one of the four deer > that were grazing in my back yard - closer than I have ever seen > before (the closest was about 60 feet from the back door). Ha - better make sure you don't get any *bigger* kitty cats in your yard, attracted by the very same deer! I just finished reading a book about this subject, where people living on the edge of wilderness had deer (and other animals) chomping on the vegetation in their yard, until a little *too much* nature, in the form of mountain lions, appeared in the yard. They had followed the deer, but once they were there, they began to take interest in the family pets, and eventually, the families themselves. I don't know where "UMR" is, but if it's in the western US, it's something to think about...
Joyce - also living in cougar land.
Ted Davis - 19 Oct 2004 01:45 GMT > > Well, just such a thing played itself out in my back yard Sunday > > evening: two of my cats stalked, and spooked, one of the four deer [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Joyce - also living in cougar land. UMR = University of Missouri - Rolla
We don't have mountain lions ... or mountains either, just foothills of the Ozarks. We do have coyotes.
My back yard is near the edge of civilization: a few miles of woods and pastures, then a road, and one part of the Mark Twain National Forest.
BTW, two deer were in the side and back yard tonight, but none of the cats were interested. I was, and watched them until it got too dark to see.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Oct 2004 02:37 GMT > UMR = University of Missouri - Rolla Ah - thanks.
> We don't have mountain lions ... or mountains either, just foothills > of the Ozarks. Actually, they live in all kinds of terrain, so the name is a misnomer.
Here's an article about mountain lions in Missouri. I don't think you'll need to start packing a shotgun just yet... :)
http://tinyurl.com/48ter
Joyce
Karen Chuplis - 19 Oct 2004 04:01 GMT > There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats > stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." > somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. What a great set of shots!!!
Christine Burel - 19 Oct 2004 04:33 GMT Wow, what an interesting situation -- thanks for sharing the photos. Christine
> There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats > stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." > somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. Marina - 19 Oct 2004 05:40 GMT > There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats > stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to get three poor but usable pictures and I made them into a web page: > <http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/041017/Cats_Stalking_Deer.html>. LOL! Some cats just believe they are Big Cats. Here's my sister's cat Linus, driving away a young elk who came too close to our house on the island one summer. Very poor pictures, but they're scanned from poorish photos.
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O J - 19 Oct 2004 10:29 GMT >LOL! Some cats just believe they are Big Cats. Here's my sister's cat >Linus, driving away a young elk who came too close to our house on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >http://tinyurl.com/3kkw7 >http://tinyurl.com/4vd9p You're right, there's not a lot of detail, but you can tell that Linus is fluffed up as big as he can be.
Regards and Purrs, O J
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Oct 2004 11:19 GMT Marina wrote:
> LOL! Some cats just believe they are Big Cats. Here's my sister's cat > Linus, driving away a young elk who came too close to our house on the > island one summer. Very poor pictures, but they're scanned from poorish > photos. > http://tinyurl.com/3kkw7 > http://tinyurl.com/4vd9p I thought Ronja had the more sensible response!
Joyce
Marina - 20 Oct 2004 05:21 GMT > I thought Ronja had the more sensible response! Much more sensible, but Linus is such a macho cat, he probably couldn't live with himself if he hadn't driven away that elk (the elk was leaving anyway, but Linus is convinced that he drove it away). Linus is the cat who grew false nuts when he'd been snipped, just to look more manly. ;o)
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Ted Davis - 19 Oct 2004 15:27 GMT >> There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats >> stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >island one summer. Very poor pictures, but they're scanned from poorish >photos. I sometimes daydream about somehow setting up a scheme to provide good and even flash lighting over much of my back yard ... over about an acre. I miss so many potentially interesting pictures because it's too dark when the animals come and they are too far away to use flash from the house.
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O J - 20 Oct 2004 03:59 GMT >> There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats >> stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >photos. >http://tinyurl.com/3kkw7 http://tinyurl.com/4vd9p Mmmm! All this talk about deer and elk is making me hungry!
Regards and Purrs, O J
Seanette Blaylock - 20 Oct 2004 16:30 GMT O J <ojtb@pacbell.BOGUS.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Cats stalking large game:
>Mmmm! All this talk about deer and elk is making me hungry! You too? :-)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Victor Martinez - 21 Oct 2004 01:09 GMT > Mmmm! All this talk about deer and elk is making me hungry! Yum!!! I love venison and elk. I ate elk a couple of times when we were in Colorado. My MIL couldn't understand how I managed to eat elk after watching them running around at the park. :)
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CatNipped - 21 Oct 2004 02:08 GMT > > Mmmm! All this talk about deer and elk is making me hungry! > > Yum!!! I love venison and elk. I ate elk a couple of times when we were > in Colorado. My MIL couldn't understand how I managed to eat elk after > watching them running around at the park. :) LOL! I love venison. A friend once asked me, "How can you eat Bambi!!?" I replied, "In a nice stew with salt and pepper!"
Hugs,
CatNipped
> -- > Victor Martinez > Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Seanette Blaylock - 21 Oct 2004 16:03 GMT "CatNipped" <CatNipped@ix.netcom.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Cats stalking large game:
>> > Mmmm! All this talk about deer and elk is making me hungry! >> Yum!!! I love venison and elk. I ate elk a couple of times when we were >> in Colorado. My MIL couldn't understand how I managed to eat elk after >> watching them running around at the park. :) >LOL! I love venison. A friend once asked me, "How can you eat Bambi!!?" I >replied, "In a nice stew with salt and pepper!" Sounds good to me. I see a deer or elk, I don't think "oh how pretty", I think about recipes. :-)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Sherry - 21 Oct 2004 20:12 GMT ><CatNipped@ix.netcom.com> had some very interesting things >to say about Re: Cats stalking large game: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Sounds good to me. I see a deer or elk, I don't think "oh how pretty", >I think about recipes. :-) Oh, you guys. We spent the day yesterday planting winter peas in the pasture behind the house for the deer. They come up in the winter, as many as eleven in a herd, and they are just so beautiful it takes my breath away. OK, I know they destroy crops. I know they're a traffic hazard. But deer season starts pretty soon here, and just wait till I catch a tresspasser hunter. I turn into the bitch from hell with no apologies. Sherry
Bobcat - 21 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT > ><CatNipped@ix.netcom.com> had some very interesting things > >to say about Re: Cats stalking large game: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > bitch from hell with no apologies. > Sherry Atta girl, Sherry, I'm with you! You and other deer partisans might like to read what I wrote about Jay-Jay, our close relatives' kitty, and some friendly deer who visit him on my folks' property.
http://www.flippyscatpage.com/jayjay.html
Kreisleriana - 22 Oct 2004 01:21 GMT >> ><CatNipped@ix.netcom.com> had some very interesting things >> >to say about Re: Cats stalking large game: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >http://www.flippyscatpage.com/jayjay.html Wow, Jay-Jay's a great, cuddly tabby.;)
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Sherry - 22 Oct 2004 03:32 GMT >Atta girl, Sherry, I'm with you! You and other deer partisans might >like to read what I wrote about Jay-Jay, our close relatives' kitty, >and some friendly deer who visit him on my folks' property. > >http://www.flippyscatpage.com/jayjay.html That's cute! BTW, your folks' place looks beautiful. If I was a deer I'd want to live there too.
Marina - 22 Oct 2004 04:04 GMT > Atta girl, Sherry, I'm with you! You and other deer partisans might > like to read what I wrote about Jay-Jay, our close relatives' kitty, > and some friendly deer who visit him on my folks' property. Good story. And what a gorgeous kitty Jay-Jay is!
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Bobcat - 22 Oct 2004 13:08 GMT > > Atta girl, Sherry, I'm with you! You and other deer partisans might > > like to read what I wrote about Jay-Jay, our close relatives' kitty, > > and some friendly deer who visit him on my folks' property.
> Good story. And what a gorgeous kitty Jay-Jay is! > Marina, Frank and Nikki On behalf of Jay-Jay, thanks! I e-mailed your comment as well as Theresa's and Sherry's to my folks (Jay-Jay's humans). If they read them to him he'll be a kitty with one swelled head!
Kreisleriana - 22 Oct 2004 15:33 GMT >> > Atta girl, Sherry, I'm with you! You and other deer partisans >might [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Theresa's and Sherry's to my folks (Jay-Jay's humans). If they read >them to him he'll be a kitty with one swelled head! As well as a stripey one! LOVE those stripes. ;)
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Victor Martinez - 21 Oct 2004 23:01 GMT > Oh, you guys. We spent the day yesterday planting winter peas in the pasture > behind the house for the deer. They come up in the winter, as many as eleven in > a herd, and they are just so beautiful it takes my breath away. OK, I know they Don't get me wrong, I love watching deers and elk and all kinds of critters. I would never kill an animal to eat it, unless I absolutely had to.
> soon here, and just wait till I catch a tresspasser hunter. I turn into the > bitch from hell with no apologies. You should turn into a hunter yourself! ;-)
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Sherry - 22 Oct 2004 03:35 GMT >Don't get me wrong, I love watching deers and elk and all kinds of >critters. I would never kill an animal to eat it, unless I absolutely >had to. Well, don't get me wrong either. I don't have a problem with people who like to eat venison. I really hate the deer hunters here though. They don't ask permission, and they'll cut your fences to get in. MOst of them are just yay-hoos, and the worst of the bunch is the bow-hunters. I'm sure they wound *many* more than they kill.
Sherry
Jo Firey - 22 Oct 2004 03:40 GMT > >Don't get me wrong, I love watching deers and elk and all kinds of >>critters. I would never kill an animal to eat it, unless I absolutely [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sherry There should be an open season on that type of "hunter". They don't deserve the title.
Jo
Marina - 22 Oct 2004 03:59 GMT > Oh, you guys. We spent the day yesterday planting winter peas in the pasture > behind the house for the deer. They come up in the winter, as many as eleven in > a herd, and they are just so beautiful it takes my breath away. OK, I know they > destroy crops. I know they're a traffic hazard. But deer season starts pretty > soon here, and just wait till I catch a tresspasser hunter. I turn into the > bitch from hell with no apologies. Good for you, Sherry! The deer were here first. :o)
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bonbon - 19 Oct 2004 06:10 GMT >There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats >stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. I've seen a couple of those commercials. They're funny.
In the third photo, is the kitty that looks like it's 'going in for the kill' Ozy?
-bonbon
Ted Davis - 19 Oct 2004 15:47 GMT >>There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats >>stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >In the third photo, is the kitty that looks like it's 'going in for >the kill' Ozy? Yes. Fleagor is the large gray longhair, and Ozy is the red tabby colorpoint shorthair. Their own pages are off my Country Cats page: <http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/phase2.cats.html>, but the best picture of Ozy is on <http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/index.html>, one of the misc. pages linked at the bottom of the Country Cats page.
Now that I have discovered a web page editor that is very easy to use, works in my context where the pages are files on a drive, and generates code that's better than I do by hand, I expect to do better at organizing the pictures and keeping the pages updated. (Nvu, for those interested - WYSIWYG, multi-platform, free, and open source: <http://www.nvu.com/>.)
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Norm - 19 Oct 2004 19:55 GMT Here's a sequence of 9 photos of Willie stalking a deer; this was posted to binaries 3 years ago - Willie was just having fun and the doe was pretty non-plussed about it. I've seen multipe cat/deer encounters and they seem mutually curious about each other. The only time I saw one upset it was when one of the deer ran off a feral that was hanging around, I assumed she could somehow tell the diference between a pet and a "wild" cat. http://community.webshots.com/album/26945460TwNkhOYIdg
The funniest bit between cat and deer was when I was tossing bits of bread in front of a deer. Max, who was behind me, suddenly charged from between my legs and wolfed the bread: "This is *my* hoomin!". The deer just backed up a step but leaned forward to smell Max. Never saw him eat bread before or since.
-- "The web has got me caught. I'd rather have the blues than what I've got." <via Nat King Cole
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Oct 2004 22:10 GMT > Here's a sequence of 9 photos of Willie stalking a deer; this was > posted to binaries 3 years ago - Willie was just having fun and the > doe was pretty non-plussed about it. Those are really cute! Willie obviously sees himself as a big cat, something the deer doesn't agree on. :)
Joyce
Karen Chuplis - 20 Oct 2004 01:09 GMT > Here's a sequence of 9 photos of Willie stalking a deer; this was > posted to binaries 3 years ago - Willie was just having fun and the doe [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > "The web has got me caught. I'd rather have the blues than what I've > got." <via Nat King Cole> LOL!!! That showed the deer !
CatNipped - 20 Oct 2004 01:06 GMT > There have been some recent cat food commercials on TV showing cats > stalking/ chasing large game. Yeah, right. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." > somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. ROTFLMAO! What great pictures!! What great hunters!!! The only big game my four hunt is me!!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Enfilade - 21 Oct 2004 19:47 GMT Those are great pics!
*wonders if Smokey-poke would stalk a deer...knowing Smokey, he'd be dumb enough to go for it seriously...imagine how big a sandwich you could make.*
--Fil
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