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Christina Websell - 18 Aug 2006 21:29 GMT
About curing Kitty's recent toilet habits?  It was all going so well with
the new litterbox.  When I got home from work I went upstairs to the
bathroom where I knew I had left my fleece sweater over the side of the bath
(my house is cold and I needed to put it on) and found it had fallen off on
to the bathroom floor.  When I put it on, the sleeve was wet.
So it seems KFC is peeing on my clothes again despite the litter box being
inches away.
Tonight I turned around at the sound of scratching on the hearthrug.  It
looked like KFC was about to pee on there, so I picked her up and took her
upstairs and put her next to her litterbox.  She made to go downstairs, so I
picked her up again and put her actually in the newly cleaned box.  She came
out straight away and opened her mouth at me, which is her attempt at a
miaow.
So I thought, OK, you don't want the box, maybe you want to pee outside, so
I took her outside where there is loose soil (dirt) and closed the door.
Big hint.
She drank deeply from the outside waterbowl and came back to the door.  I
didn't let her in at first because I wanted her to toilet herself outside,
since the litterbox obviously didn't suit.
And then I *noticed* that her rug scratching was an attempt to cover up what
she had already done.  I had been reading a magazine and had put it on the
floor near my armchair while I went into the kitchen to prepare a meal.
Kitty had peed on the magazine big time.
I am not sure what to do.  Part of me says maybe TED ought to take a look at
her.  I will certainly have to get a stronger cat box that I have now as she
fights like a tiger inside a box and has shredded and got out of any I have
used up to now.   KFC angry out of the box inside my car is not a good thing
while I am driving to TED's.
It freaks her out to go to the vet.  Her eyes are as big as dinner plates
(well, nearly) when her box is opened on the vet's table and her head comes
out like a jack in the box.  A nurse is required to restrain her.
I want to do only the best for her.  Do you think it might be time to let
her go at the age of 20?
Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
consider it.

crying
Tweed
Adrian A - 18 Aug 2006 21:38 GMT
<snip>
> I want to do only the best for her.  Do you think it might be time to
> let her go at the age of 20?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> crying
> Tweed

Definately not! It would be a good idea to talk to the vet, but hopefully
KFC has a few more years yet.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Aug 2006 21:43 GMT
> It freaks her out to go to the vet.  Her eyes are as big as dinner plates
> (well, nearly) when her box is opened on the vet's table and her head comes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
> consider it.

Oscar hates wearing her plastic collar, hates going to the vet, hates
having her paw soaked ... and though it breaks my heart to see her
miserable, I still do it when that's what's best for her.

You're describing a cat who's peeing inappropriately.  I remember you
posting that you've had dogs who were incontinent, and you put up with
it and ripped up the carpetting after they were gone.  Why are you
even talking about "letting her go"?  Find a way to get her to the
vet, or get the vet to her.  Unless there's something going on that
you haven't mentioned in any of your posts, I can't see a single
reason to think that she's ready to die.

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Christina Websell - 18 Aug 2006 22:29 GMT
>> It freaks her out to go to the vet.  Her eyes are as big as dinner plates
>> (well, nearly) when her box is opened on the vet's table and her head
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> you haven't mentioned in any of your posts, I can't see a single
> reason to think that she's ready to die.

She isn't.  Sometimes I need validation that I am doing the right thing
because my cat experience is around 2 out of 10.

Tweed
Karen - 18 Aug 2006 21:44 GMT
Well, it could be as simple as a UTI. If she isn't a good TED patient, get a
urine sample and take it in. If she doesn't pill well, ask for baytril
shots. That is where I would start.

> About curing Kitty's recent toilet habits?  It was all going so well with
> the new litterbox.  When I got home from work I went upstairs to the
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> crying
> Tweed
Dan M - 18 Aug 2006 22:09 GMT
> Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
> consider it.
>
> crying
> Tweed

If the vet doesn't find a UTI, you might ask about a prescription for an
anti-depressant. I've heard from several people that Prozac, sometimes
Wellbutrin, can help a lot with inappropriate littering problems. And if
you can't get an antidepressant into her by mixing it with food, they also
make an ointment you rub on the inside of the ear. DEFINITELY worth trying!

Dan
Winnie - 19 Aug 2006 02:53 GMT
> > Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
> > consider it.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Dan

Rusty was put on Clomicalm, an anti-depressant,  for inappropriate
urination after the vet
couldn't find anything wrong with him. It worked right away with the
first dose.  After a couple of  months, I successfully weaned him off
from it. It came in pill form. I know others
had a pharmacy put flavouring on it to make it more tasty.

Winnie
John F. Eldredge - 19 Aug 2006 03:01 GMT
>> Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
>> consider it.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>you can't get an antidepressant into her by mixing it with food, they also
>make an ointment you rub on the inside of the ear. DEFINITELY worth trying!

One of my sister's cats is on a daily dose of Prozac.  He is a bit
neurotic, and, without the medicine, responds to any change from
ordinary circumstances by peeing on the out-of-place item.

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Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2006 23:10 GMT
>> Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I
>> will consider it.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Dan

Thanks for that.  I can get a strong enough box to hold her by tomorrow
evening and hopefully to TED the day after.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Aug 2006 22:25 GMT
> About curing Kitty's recent toilet habits?  It was all going so well with
> the new litterbox.  When I got home from work I went upstairs to the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So it seems KFC is peeing on my clothes again despite the litter box being
> inches away.
[snip]
> I want to do only the best for her.  Do you think it might be time to let
> her go at the age of 20?
> Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
> consider it.

No!! Absolutely not. Unless she is suffering, it is not time to let her
go.

I would first do what others have suggested, and check for a UTI or some
other medical condition. Do you have any vets who do house calls? I mean
for a cat - I know you live in a rural area where a vet might come out
to see a horse or some other hard-to-transport animal. That might be
better than putting her through the trauma of going there, if it's an
option. I also liked Karen's suggestion of bringing in a urine sample.

If she doesn't have a medical condition, then another thing I might
suggest is a second litterbox downstairs. She might have peed on the
floor because she didn't have the energy to go up the steps. And then
when you brought her to the litterbox, maybe she came right back out
because she had already peed, and didn't need to use the box right then.
If there had been a box downstairs, she might have used it. She has
already demonstrated that she is willing to use a litterbox.

Purrs for you and KFC, especially from Licky for his sweet girl.

Joyce
mlbriggs - 19 Aug 2006 01:54 GMT
> About curing Kitty's recent toilet habits?  It was all going so well with
> the new litterbox.  When I got home from work I went upstairs to the
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> crying
> Tweed

Does she seem to want to hide?   If she is near the end, she may run away
if she goes outside.  When Princess was near the end, I kept moving her
litter box closer for her.  At the end the litter box and her water were
on a plastic sheet within 3 feet of her bed.

Purrs for her comfort (and yours also).   MLB
Christina Websell - 20 Aug 2006 23:19 GMT
> Does she seem to want to hide?

No.

> If she is near the end, she may run
> away if she goes outside.

She has been sunbatheing outside today.  She is not near the end, she's just
pulling a b cat trick.  I am borrowing a strong wooden cat box tomorrow to
take her to TED for thorough check up on Tuesday.

Tweed

When Princess was near the end, I kept
> moving her litter box closer for her.  At the end the litter box and
> her water were on a plastic sheet within 3 feet of her bed.
>
> Purrs for her comfort (and yours also).   MLB
Takayuki - 19 Aug 2006 17:46 GMT
>It freaks her out to go to the vet.  Her eyes are as big as dinner plates
>(well, nearly) when her box is opened on the vet's table and her head comes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
>consider it.

I think it would be a good idea to get a proper carrier for her.  Wow,
at 20 years old, you can expect that the time will come, but she
sounds really spry for her age.  I'd make her put up with getting
poked and prodded and getting saucer eyes (it must be cute as well as
terrifying) to rule out the infections and things that the other
posters mentioned.
Sam - 20 Aug 2006 03:25 GMT
> It freaks her out to go to the vet.  Her eyes are as big as dinner plates
> (well, nearly) when her box is opened on the vet's table and her head comes
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> crying
> Tweed

If she acts like she feels OK, I don't think "it's time" yet.  TED
should have a look to get to the bottom of the issue, but here's hoping
she'll be with you for some time yet.

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Jane - 21 Aug 2006 12:46 GMT
.> > I want to do only the best for her.  Do you think it might be time
to let
> > her go at the age of 20?
> > Please say no, it would break my heart, but if you all think yes..I will
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> should have a look to get to the bottom of the issue, but here's hoping
> she'll be with you for some time yet.

I agree. If she's still that feisty, then it isn't time yet. She still
has a heck of a lot more living to do!

It's when they don't fight anymore that scares me.

Jane
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Christina Websell - 21 Aug 2006 23:53 GMT
>> It freaks her out to go to the vet.  Her eyes are as big as dinner plates
>> (well, nearly) when her box is opened on the vet's table and her head
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> have a look to get to the bottom of the issue, but here's hoping she'll be
> with you for some time yet.

I've borrowed a strong wooden carrying case that my friend uses for her
Italian greyhounds and Kitty has an appointment with TED tomorrow evening.

Tweed
 
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