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Cheryl Perkins - 15 Aug 2006 03:17 GMT As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the neighbourhood he was roaming before. I can't believe he didn't have a home since he is such an affectionate cat, but he's been roaming around for at least a couple week, and no one seems to be looking for him. I figure if no one's reported him to the SPCA and Humane Division by now, I have another cat.
He's got an appointment at a vet clinic next Saturday for the usual once-over and some discussion of a few things. First of all, he is allegedly neutered (according to one of the rescuers) or a non-sprayer (according to another). I am far more familiar with female cats, but to my inexperienced eyes he looks a little, ummm, large for a neutered cat. And there was a definite odour when I came home tonight, although I couldn't decide whether it was on the inside or outside of the exterior door. There are cases periodically of roaming local toms spraying outside a door or window, but I'm not entirely convinced young Sam is innocent.
He's definitely got worms. That's not unexpected, and last time I had to treat a cat for worms, at least they liked the taste of the medicine.
He's also got an almost-healed scratch across his nose and eyelid. One of the reasons the people wanted to relocate him was that he was getting in catfights. I must say, he's quite submissive towards the resident Empress Mandy. He wants Out badly, and he also likes company, and complains loudly, plaintively and at length when he's hovering outside the bedroom door because Mandy's hissing at him.
I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!)
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Marina - 15 Aug 2006 04:46 GMT > I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) Purrs for that end. Has he been neutered recently? As I understand it, he may have residual hormones for quite some time after the snip, so it may make his pee smell for some time. Purrs also that Sam and Mandy may become friends, so maybe he won't want to be Out so much if he has a friend to play with inside.
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Cheryl Perkins - 15 Aug 2006 11:40 GMT > Purrs for that end. Has he been neutered recently? As I understand it, > he may have residual hormones for quite some time after the snip, so it > may make his pee smell for some time. Purrs also that Sam and Mandy may > become friends, so maybe he won't want to be Out so much if he has a > friend to play with inside. Thanks for the purrs!
I suspect that he may not have been neutered at all, and that I may have been misinformed by a kindly rescuer who is allergic to cats and is therefore unfamiliar with them. The rescuer who had the cats he was fighting with was less inclined to commit herself to his condition!
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Kreisleriana - 15 Aug 2006 14:53 GMT >> Purrs for that end. Has he been neutered recently? As I understand it, >> he may have residual hormones for quite some time after the snip, so it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >is therefore unfamiliar with them. The rescuer who had the cats he was >fighting with was less inclined to commit herself to his condition! Hmm. As I implied before,even if the scrotum is left behind, they look very different from the back. A whole tom with a full bag is hard to miss!
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Marina - 16 Aug 2006 04:23 GMT >> Purrs for that end. Has he been neutered recently? As I understand it, >> he may have residual hormones for quite some time after the snip, so it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > is therefore unfamiliar with them. The rescuer who had the cats he was > fighting with was less inclined to commit herself to his condition! I just remembered that my sister's cat Linus is such a macho that, after he was neutered, he grew a pair of false nuts. I've heard about this happening with others (I think Vino did that too), but of course it's best to have the vet check Sam out. It may very well be that they were so eager to find a home for him that they embellished the truth a bit.
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Susan M - 16 Aug 2006 05:16 GMT > I just remembered that my sister's cat Linus is such a macho that, after > he was neutered, he grew a pair of false nuts. I've heard about this > happening with others (I think Vino did that too), but of course it's best > to have the vet check Sam out. It may very well be that they were so eager > to find a home for him that they embellished the truth a bit. False nuts! LOL!
Otis has pretty prominent no-nuts but Chester's are almost invisible. It depends on the cats. You should have seen Otis before though - holy cow Mr. Huge Nuts.
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badwilson - 16 Aug 2006 15:12 GMT >>> Purrs for that end. Has he been neutered recently? As I understand >>> it, he may have residual hormones for quite some time after the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > they were so eager to find a home for him that they embellished the > truth a bit. I don't know if Vino grew any false nuts. It's just that he's got some fur puffs back there that look kinda nutty to me. But there's definitely nothing to 'em but fluff! :-D
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badwilson - 16 Aug 2006 15:15 GMT >>>> Purrs for that end. Has he been neutered recently? As I understand >>>> it, he may have residual hormones for quite some time after the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > some fur puffs back there that look kinda nutty to me. But there's > definitely nothing to 'em but fluff! :-D You can see his fluff nuts a bit in this pic: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/badwilson/detail?.dir=463f&.dnm=d2b6.jpg&.src=ph
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 16 Aug 2006 18:08 GMT > You can see his fluff nuts a bit in this pic: > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/badwilson/detail?.dir=463f&.dnm=d2b6.jpg&.src=ph He's a Fluffernutter!
That's quite a display. I wonder who he was trying to impress. :)
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Winnie - 16 Aug 2006 16:19 GMT > I don't know if Vino grew any false nuts. It's just that he's got some > fur puffs back there that look kinda nutty to me. But there's > definitely nothing to 'em but fluff! :-D > -- How is Vino doing with the S/D? Is he almost finished with it? We've been thinking about him, and Rusty has been purring for his fellow orange cat who suffered from urinary blockage.
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badwilson - 17 Aug 2006 02:30 GMT >> I don't know if Vino grew any false nuts. It's just that he's got >> some fur puffs back there that look kinda nutty to me. But there's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Winnie He's doing better with it now. I am feeding him straight s/d now, no longer mixing in any Iams. He doesn't bug me to get fed like he used to and he doesn't scarf his food down right away. He nibbles a bit and walks away but comes back and eats a bit more. Eventually it all gets eaten. He is half finished the case of cans and about half finished the bag of kibble. I think it's enough to last another month. The vet said that he only needs to eat the stuff for a month before switching to the c/d, but since we have so much left, we can feed the s/d until it runs out and then move onto the c/d. I think that we will pretty much finish the cans and the kibble at the same time, so that works out very well. He has also started drinking more water. Well, he's back up to his normal water consumption. When he was sick he didn't drink much. Maybe he was worried about making himself have to pee and thinking it might be painful like before when he was blocked? But he's drinking and peeing freely, so I'm very happy about that.
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Winnie - 17 Aug 2006 02:50 GMT > He's doing better with it now. I am feeding him straight s/d now, no > longer mixing in any Iams. He doesn't bug me to get fed like he used to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > but since we have so much left, we can feed the s/d until it runs out > and then move onto the c/d. You must have got a lot of S/D. I remember I only got enough for a month. But then you were mixing it with IAM, so you stock of S/D will last longer. Watch out for relapse. Rusty got blocked again while on dry C/D. Unlike the first time, he was completely blocked and was hospitalized at the emergency clinic for a weekend. They told me to consider surgery, but his regular vet said that should be the last resort. We switched to Medi-Cal can Preventive formula (after the S/D). He had crystals a few times, but not blocked. I mixed his can food with some distilled water to make sure he gets enough fluid. This way I also control the amount of water he gets, depending on his litter box output. Unlike Vino, Rusty doesn't drink enough water, if left to his own device. He likes the water mixed with his food. The 'soup' must taste better than plain old water.
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I think that we will pretty much finish the
> cans and the kibble at the same time, so that works out very well. > He has also started drinking more water. Well, he's back up to his [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > freely, so I'm very happy about that. > -- badwilson - 17 Aug 2006 04:15 GMT >> He's doing better with it now. I am feeding him straight s/d now, no >> longer mixing in any Iams. He doesn't bug me to get fed like he [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > the water mixed > with his food. The 'soup' must taste better than plain old water. We had a case of 24 cans and a 1.8 kg bag of kibble. Vino doesn't eat all that much, that's why it's lasting longer. But now that I"m not mixing with Iams anymore, it is going down faster.
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Marina - 17 Aug 2006 04:07 GMT > He has also started drinking more water. Well, he's back up to his > normal water consumption. When he was sick he didn't drink much. Maybe > he was worried about making himself have to pee and thinking it might be > painful like before when he was blocked? But he's drinking and peeing > freely, so I'm very happy about that. Glad to hear his Orangeness is doing so well. Has he gained back any weight?
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badwilson - 17 Aug 2006 04:14 GMT >> He has also started drinking more water. Well, he's back up to his >> normal water consumption. When he was sick he didn't drink much. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Glad to hear his Orangeness is doing so well. Has he gained back any > weight? Thanks :-) Yes, I think he has fluffed up again. My bathroom scale isn't really accurate enough to tell by weighing, but he seems heavier when I pick him up and his spine seems less bumpy. Except for his bald spot where he has his abscess, you can still feel his spine there, but that's probably normal. His fur's growing back in well, around the shaved area it's almost 1 cm already and on top of the abscess it's a couple of mm but darker than the rest. I can't wait till it's all grown in again and back to normal.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 15 Aug 2006 04:51 GMT > I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) Purrs for Sam; purrs for your wallet, too!
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Cheryl Perkins - 15 Aug 2006 11:43 GMT >> I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!)
> Purrs for Sam; purrs for your wallet, too! Thanks! It should be OK, and I will feel a lot better if he's had a professional looking-over. But I kind of wish I had already had it done. I put it off a week partly because that's when I could get an appointment outside work hours and partly to give whoever lost him another week to call the SPCA.
Of course, if he was dumped and not lost, that second reason is unimportant.
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Karen - 15 Aug 2006 04:51 GMT > As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish > black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) Congrats! I hope the check up goes well. I forgot to tell folks, my mom's Petrus was finally neutered. The doctor really liked him. When he was brought out the doc said "See, I made him still look like a man". And sure enough, the sacks are somehow sewn to look like a smaller version of what he had before! I've never seen that. The vet said "that way you can still see he is male at a glance". But I think the Doc just liked him so much he felt the need to preserve Petrus' "image".
Cheryl Perkins - 15 Aug 2006 11:41 GMT > Congrats! I hope the check up goes well. I forgot to tell folks, my > mom's Petrus was finally neutered. The doctor really liked him. When he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > way you can still see he is male at a glance". But I think the Doc just > liked him so much he felt the need to preserve Petrus' "image". Thanks! People sometimes have funny ideas about neutering animals.
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Kreisleriana - 15 Aug 2006 14:49 GMT >> As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish >> black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >way you can still see he is male at a glance". But I think the Doc just >liked him so much he felt the need to preserve Petrus' "image". Both my cats have had their testicles removed and the sac left behind, but to what purpose I don't know, because neither of them look a bit like whole toms. That's just the way their vets did it.
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Enfilade - 15 Aug 2006 16:12 GMT > Both my cats have had their testicles removed and the sac left behind, > but to what purpose I don't know, because neither of them look a bit > like whole toms. That's just the way their vets did it. Smokey still has a package. However, in 4 years since his neutering, the package is visibly smaller than it used to be. It seemed to shrink over time.
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Karen - 15 Aug 2006 16:46 GMT >>> As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish >>> black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Make Levees, Not War but he actually made it so that it looks like he has little balls. I've never seen anything like it. Petrus has white hair so he's very visable back there.
Kreisleriana - 15 Aug 2006 21:18 GMT >>>> As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish >>>> black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >never seen anything like it. Petrus has white hair so he's very visable >back there. LMAO!
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Adrian A - 15 Aug 2006 10:15 GMT > As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish > black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) Congratulations on your new owner. Purrs for a good checkup.
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Kreisleriana - 15 Aug 2006 14:46 GMT >As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish >black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) Purrs all goes well.
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Christine Burel - 15 Aug 2006 15:13 GMT Good for you, Cheryl, for taking on Sam; he sounds like a cutie. Hope to see photos at some point! Christine
> As I think I mentioned in another thread, I have taken in a youngish > black cat I think I will call Sam. He had at least three names from the [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) Christina Websell - 15 Aug 2006 20:52 GMT > He's got an appointment at a vet clinic next Saturday for the usual > once-over and some discussion of a few things. First of all, he is > allegedly neutered (according to one of the rescuers) or a non-sprayer > (according to another). I am far more familiar with female cats, but to > my inexperienced eyes he looks a little, ummm, large for a neutered > cat. If he has - err - two protuberances underneath his tail he is not neutered. Boyfie arrived like this.
> And there was a definite odour when I came home tonight, although > I couldn't decide whether it was on the inside or outside of the > exterior door. There are cases periodically of roaming local toms > spraying outside a door or window, but I'm not entirely convinced young > Sam is innocent. Is there no way he will let you look under his tail? Is he too shy? Sometimes if they will allow you to scritch them quite hard on the head and back they will turn their backside towards you to see. Why am I telling you this? You know a lot more than me. He sounds like an intact tom to me though.
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Kreisleriana - 15 Aug 2006 21:28 GMT >> He's got an appointment at a vet clinic next Saturday for the usual >> once-over and some discussion of a few things. First of all, he is [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Tweed Intact toms really tend to "fly the flag." You end up seeing a lot more of their "stuff" than you want to. ;)
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Christina Websell - 15 Aug 2006 21:39 GMT >>> He's got an appointment at a vet clinic next Saturday for the usual >>> once-over and some discussion of a few things. First of all, he is [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Intact toms really tend to "fly the flag." You end up seeing a lot > more of their "stuff" than you want to. ;) Boyfie didn't. He didn't parade his "stuff" at all. He was very quiet about it but he certainly had it. He is very polite. Always.
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Kreisleriana - 16 Aug 2006 02:13 GMT >>>> He's got an appointment at a vet clinic next Saturday for the usual >>>> once-over and some discussion of a few things. First of all, he is [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >Tweed Dear Boyfie. He is the perfect gentlecat.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 15 Aug 2006 21:28 GMT > If he has - err - two protuberances underneath his tail he is not > neutered. Boyfie arrived like this. Unless the animal has neuticles.
And yes, some owners are vain enough to get these for their animals.
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Christina Websell - 15 Aug 2006 21:30 GMT >> If he has - err - two protuberances underneath his tail he is not >> neutered. Boyfie arrived like this. > > Unless the animal has neuticles. > > And yes, some owners are vain enough to get these for their animals. Neuticles? What are neuticles?
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Monique Y. Mudama - 15 Aug 2006 21:58 GMT > Neuticles? What are neuticles? I am *not* looking this up on the computer I'm currently using.
They are fakies vets can insert when they remove the real ones.
"Neutered" + "testicles"
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Christina Websell - 15 Aug 2006 22:23 GMT >> Neuticles? What are neuticles? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "Neutered" + "testicles" Never heard of such a thing in Britain. Once they are gone, they are gone as far as I know.
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Kreisleriana - 16 Aug 2006 02:19 GMT >>> Neuticles? What are neuticles? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Tweed I'm sure you'll think they're another sign of the fall of western civilization. ;) And they are. ;)
I've never heard of them for cats, just dogs. But there are guys who do, erm, overidentify. And if making the animals *look* like they have the package is sufficiently reassuring to some macho idiot that he *does* go ahead and get the animal snipped, I guess that's on the good side. Ridiculous, and far from ideal, of course, but the job gets done, and nobody gets hurt, except Macho Man's wallet. :P
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Jo Firey - 16 Aug 2006 17:57 GMT >>>> Neuticles? What are neuticles? >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > good side. Ridiculous, and far from ideal, of course, but the job > gets done, and nobody gets hurt, except Macho Man's wallet. :P OK. Now it makes sense. I can well imagine Billy Bob out hunting with Jimmy Joe and not wanting it to get all over town that Ole Blue isn't all there.
But who on earth invented and markets this stuff?
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badwilson - 17 Aug 2006 02:32 GMT >>>>> Neuticles? What are neuticles? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Jo I always thought the neuticles are meant for show animals so that they have the proper look in cat or dog shows? Don't know.
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William Hamblen - 17 Aug 2006 03:25 GMT >I always thought the neuticles are meant for show animals so that they >have the proper look in cat or dog shows? Don't know. Isn't it usually the rule that show animals have to be intact? Part of the rationale for the shows is "to improve the breed" and a neutered or spayed animal isn't going to contribute to the gene pool.
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John F. Eldredge - 16 Aug 2006 03:29 GMT >>> Neuticles? What are neuticles? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Never heard of such a thing in Britain. Once they are gone, they are gone >as far as I know. I think the main market is for men who have confused their pet's masculinity with their own masculinity, and want their pet (more often a dog than a cat) to still look "macho".
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 16 Aug 2006 09:45 GMT > > Neuticles? What are neuticles?
> They are fakies vets can insert when they remove the real ones. > "Neutered" + "testicles" Cosmetic prostheses for cats?? Now I've heard of everything.
No, these are not for cats. They are for humans who can't bear to see their cat's "manhood" taken away. Bizarre!
Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 16 Aug 2006 14:40 GMT > Cosmetic prostheses for cats?? Now I've heard of everything. http://www.neuticles.com/index1.html
They do have them for cats, not just dogs.
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Cheryl Perkins - 15 Aug 2006 23:52 GMT > If he has - err - two protuberances underneath his tail he is not neutered. > Boyfie arrived like this. Yes. And to my eye, they are large enough to eliminate the possibility that he was neutered but the vet wanted to let him look like a tom.
Really, people trying to find a home for an unwanted cat are the least reliable on issues about the cat's reproductive status!
> Is there no way he will let you look under his tail? Is he too shy? > Sometimes if they will allow you to scritch them quite hard on the head and > back they will turn their backside towards you to see. > Why am I telling you this? You know a lot more than me. He sounds like an > intact tom to me though. He's very wriggly and active and doesn't like staying still. And the black fur makes them sort of fade into the background a bit. I was suspicious of the 'neutered' claim from the first glimpse, even if I couldn't get him to hold still for long.
Oh, well, I've salved my conscience about cat-stealing by contacting the SPCA myself to see if anyone had lost a cat of his description. The people who gave him to me did the same. If no one calls by Saturday AM - well, once I've paid vet fees for a cat, I figure that cat's mine!
I made it quite clear to the volunteer who returned my call to the SPCA - I want to keep this cat; I am not looking to get rid of it. I just want to make sure *if* he has someone anxiously hunting him, they can find him.
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Sam - 16 Aug 2006 03:27 GMT > I hope the vet checkup goes well (and cheaply!) How about a bit of a warning next time! Saw the title and thought you were going to go off on me!
Purrs for a successful and inexpensive v*t visit.
Welcome, little Sam, to a loving foreverhome.
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