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What's with Sabrina?

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Singh - 12 Aug 2006 19:08 GMT
Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.

There hasn't been any fighting. Our first four are friendly and want to
meet the newcomer. No one has even said a cussword. But Sabrina is
terrified! I think we've gotten ourselves and agoraphobic cat!

We've left the door open, but she will not leave the computer room. It
seems like she thinks she is limited to this one room alone, and she
must defend it. Maybe that's not so out there; she was first in a
nursing home and a patient's limited space; Richard restricted her to
certain parts of the house, then confined her in a hot apartment
building without much in the way of food or water.

She's not so wild that she won't accept attention. With the door closed,
she's quite open with us. But let it open and she acts like a feral
who'd been on the streets a while, mistrustful, posturing. I don't think
she wants to fight the others. She could have; her personality isn't
aggressive.

I so want this to go right. I can say that when she does growl and hiss,
there's fewer of them, and they're quieter, and less of the angry-cat
wail that sometimes accompanies such monologues. I hope to God this is a
good sign, that I'm just being impatient. I don't want Sabrina to have
any more trauma than she's had in the last year or so. We love her;
she's a good girl, and she needs to know she's in a home where she'll be
appreciated, where there's stability.

Has anyone out there had to take a long time to get a cat acclimated and
integrated? And am I just a victim of bad mama guilt, and impatient?
We've never had to deal with something like this. Tips, ego-stroking
words--help!!

Blessed be,
Baha
Jo Firey - 12 Aug 2006 19:19 GMT
> Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
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> We've never had to deal with something like this. Tips, ego-stroking
> words--help!!

Integration around here has always been a few days in a separate room to get
used to the sounds and smells and to being away from whereever before was.
Then its always been pretty much "this is your new brother/sister.  Deal
with it.  We've been lucky in that its always worked.

Jake's "fear" of Kayla is even starting to be a joke.  I mean he will sleep
on the same sofa with her, and then an hour later get her to chase him.
Then he sits up on the counter with a smug look on his face while she gets
yelled at.

I'd be leaving the door open whenever you are home.  A closed door may be
making her think its a boundary she isn't allowed to cross.  (Wow, a cats
that recognized boundaries!)

Jo
Joy - 12 Aug 2006 19:21 GMT
> Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
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> Blessed be,
> Baha

Have you tried shutting up the other cats and letting Sabrina wander through
the house?  My might even try taking her out of the room and shutting the
door.  If she becomes familiar with the smells of the other cats but roaming
where they have been, maybe she will be less fearful.

Another possibility might be taking her into a different room (other than
the one she considers hers) and introducing her to one cat at a time.

Good luck.

Joy
Singh - 12 Aug 2006 19:37 GMT
We were talking about getting one of those thingies you put across a doorway
so you can keep an eye on your baby; I don't know what the darn things are
called, but we thought of stretching it across the top of the stairs so
Sabrina could take a walk to the other smaller bedroom undisturbed. Then
maybe she could get an idea that it's okay, it's hers.

Richard was pretty horrible to her in this respect, that she was limited to
certain areas of the apartment and scolded or smacked if she got up on the
furniture or climbed near the computer. I think sometimes that she's
conditioned to keep to small spaces, and scared as hell that she'll lose her
hold on her little territory. I hope she can see that the others don't want
to infringe. They've been really deferential, like they know she's older, or
know she's phobic.

Blessed be,
Baha

> Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha
Helen Miles - 12 Aug 2006 21:15 GMT
> We were talking about getting one of those thingies you put across a doorway
> so you can keep an eye on your baby; I don't know what the darn things are
> called, but we thought of stretching it across the top of the stairs so
> Sabrina could take a walk to the other smaller bedroom undisturbed. Then
> maybe she could get an idea that it's okay, it's hers/////

When I'm acclimating a new cat into the house, they always start off in
my study for however long they want. Then I introduce a baby gate (like
the one you describe) so that they can watch what goes on without
feeling threatened by the other cats. Your computer room is Sabrinas
safe space. If you try to force her out of it, she will become more
fearful. By using a physical barrier which she can observe the other
cats through, it will ease her fears.

Helen m
Karen AKA Kajikit - 14 Aug 2006 17:06 GMT
>We were talking about getting one of those thingies you put across a doorway
>so you can keep an eye on your baby; I don't know what the darn things are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>to infringe. They've been really deferential, like they know she's older, or
>know she's phobic.

A baby gate might make her feel more secure... but if she really wants
to live in that one room there's no point in trying to force her to
change - just give her a food bowl and a litterbox and leave her be
(giving her lots of attention when you're in there with her, of
course...) One day she might suprise you :)
mlbriggs - 12 Aug 2006 19:57 GMT
> Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Do you have a little radio playing in her room?  If not, it could help
her get used to a variety of sounds and voices.  MLB
Christina Websell - 13 Aug 2006 00:12 GMT
I think you have it right that she has been used to being confined to small
areas.  Maybe she has been punished before for coming out of her small area
and she is afraid to come out of the room she has been placed in.
First I would try this.  Shut all your other cats in a room overnight and
let her explore the "empty" house during the night safely.  Then do the same
thing in the daytime.
When she gets to feel safe in the house, introduce her to one cat in a room
she has been in before.
That's how I would do it.

Tweed
Will in New Haven - 13 Aug 2006 00:56 GMT
> Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

I hope your results are better than ours but WoToo stays in my room and
everyone else has the run of the house. She was not a young cat when my
Mom died and I inherited her and she had never shared space with other
fur people. In fact, she had never spent much time with any other
humans. Her reactions to the occasional encounter at the door are no
longer scary. She just backs away and gets under the bed really fast.

This isn't all tragic. We get along fine and WooToo seems quite happy.
I get plenty of time with the rest of the crowd. Sometimes the best
you can do is the best you can do.

Will in New Haven

--

"The difference between food and beer is that beer
has some food value, while food has no beer value"
- Linda the waitress
Takayuki - 13 Aug 2006 18:49 GMT
>Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
>There hasn't been any fighting. Our first four are friendly and want to
>meet the newcomer. No one has even said a cussword. But Sabrina is
>terrified! I think we've gotten ourselves and agoraphobic cat!

If she is agoraphobic, she wouldn't be the first under-the-bed type
cat.  Hazel Az's Dorrie and RB Selena were always wary of ceiling
eagles, and Charleen had a cat who lived mostly under the bed for
seven years.

If I had a scaredy kitty, it would make me a little sad too, and I
would wonder if she's unhappy and if there's anything I could do that
would relieve the fear and discomfort.  But Sabrina's in a much better
situation now, and she hasn't gotten to know her friends yet.  It's
still developing.
Baha - 14 Aug 2006 20:50 GMT
Light shines in Sabrina-land...

For a change, and to get her used to more house, we moved her to our bedroom
so Louie and I could both stay with her. Something's come over her since, I
can't quite figure it out. But she's more curious about the door after only a
night, and actually went out to prowl a bit before Odessa cussed at her and
scared the snot out of her. It was their first meeting after all this time.

Sabrina no longer wails, and just hisses instead of growling, and there's a
lot less hissing. mostly she is almighty curious now about that door; she now
knows there is something out there that happens to have other cats in it. She
even allowed Stosh within three feet of her wool, which now lines a little
bed Louie made for her.

Things are looking up, it seems! Thanks all, for the encouragement; our
scaredy cat will just take a bit to get herself oriented, is all.

Blessed be,
Baha

>Louie and I have been spoiled: our first integrations were successful.
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>Blessed be,
>Baha
Marina - 15 Aug 2006 03:12 GMT
> Light shines in Sabrina-land...

Glad to hear she is progressing so nicely. Purrs continuing.

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Anonymous - 15 Aug 2006 07:01 GMT
Baha via CatKB.com wrote
> Light shines in Sabrina-land..

Glad to hear she is progressing so nicely. Purrs continuing

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