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Enfilade - 11 Aug 2006 17:39 GMT
Smokey Poke may be a cat, but he is in the doghouse today.

Dylan had to be at work at 5:30 am.  I needed the car to go to the
library, do research, then get to work by noon.  So after dropping
Dylan off, I went back to bed for two hours.

Well.  Despite the fact that Dylan put down soft food at 5, Smokey
started whining and bugging me for food when the alarm went off at 8.
Wet nose leather on face, patty-paws on cheeks, etc.  I was ignoring
this, since I knew damn well Smokey had had his breakfast.

And then Smokey pushed the "dad-didn't-feed-me" routine too far and bit
me on the cheek. And drew blood.

The bite is shallow, but it hurt.  I sat straight up in bed and HISSED
at Smokey, and his fur puffed out and he ran like all the hordes of
hell were after him.

An hour later he came slinking up to me to see if he was forgiven.

Is there any point in my still hissing at him when I get home from work
or will he have forgotten by then what he did?  I can't believe I have
this red mark under my eye now.

He knew better than to lunge at faces, PARTICULARLY when he actually
HAD been fed already.

--Fil
Karen - 11 Aug 2006 17:52 GMT
I highly doubt he will be able to connect hissing after work with this, but
I think he got the message.

> Smokey Poke may be a cat, but he is in the doghouse today.
>
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>
> --Fil
Monique Y. Mudama - 11 Aug 2006 17:56 GMT
> And then Smokey pushed the "dad-didn't-feed-me" routine too far and
> bit me on the cheek. And drew blood.

Oww!

> Is there any point in my still hissing at him when I get home from
> work or will he have forgotten by then what he did?  I can't believe
> I have this red mark under my eye now.

I don't think so .. I think it needs to be immediate, which you
handled with the hiss.

That doesn't mean you have to be super-nice to him if you're still
upset, though.

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Christina Websell - 11 Aug 2006 21:33 GMT
> Is there any point in my still hissing at him when I get home from work
> or will he have forgotten by then what he did?  I can't believe I have
> this red mark under my eye now.

No.  Don't hiss at him tonight.  He will have forgotten by then what he did
in the morning.
For example:  Smokey greets you home from work.  You hiss.  Smokey's
understanding "OMG.  I was pleased to see meowmie and said hello and she
HISSED AT ME.
Your understanding:  Smokey bit your face this morning and you are still
p*ssed off with him.
My understanding:  He went a bit too far in trying to make you understand
what he was trying to say.
My recommendation:  Keep cats out of your bedroom.   I do, and it makes for
harmony.

Tweed

> He knew better than to lunge at faces, PARTICULARLY when he actually
> HAD been fed already.
>
> --Fil
Adrian A - 11 Aug 2006 21:50 GMT
>> Is there any point in my still hissing at him when I get home from
>> work or will he have forgotten by then what he did?  I can't believe
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>
> Tweed

The wind blew my bedroom door shut last night, so this morning I was woken
at 6:30 by Snoopy meowing pathetically at the door asking to be let in.
After I let her in I went back to sleep with a purring cat.
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Cheryl - 11 Aug 2006 22:32 GMT
> No.  Don't hiss at him tonight.  He will have forgotten by then
> what he did in the morning.
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> My recommendation:  Keep cats out of your bedroom.   I do, and
> it makes for harmony.

I am always in awe of your replies to behavior issues. You really
understand animals, no matter what species. I'm glad you're here.

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Enfilade - 11 Aug 2006 23:59 GMT
> My understanding:  He went a bit too far in trying to make you understand
> what he was trying to say.

Yes.  He's back to being our love boy and I am back to snuggling him.

> My recommendation:  Keep cats out of your bedroom.   I do, and it makes for
> harmony.

That would never work here.  Not when kittens sleep on top of their
motherfather and Nox sleeps on our heads every night.  Dylan and Nox
would BOTH be cranky beyond belief if (or rather, when) they don't have
"the headnox arrangement."  He has trouble getting to sleep without her
on his head now.  She is wrathful and irritable every night he is
overnight at the hospital instead of sleeping beneath her belly where
he belongs.  In fact, he is having a nap right now (7 pm) and she is on
his head.

No, I think I'm going to take the risk that Smokey has learned the
consequences of facebiting, unless it starts to become a regular
occurrance.

--Fil
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Aug 2006 01:08 GMT
> Dylan and Nox
> would BOTH be cranky beyond belief if (or rather, when) they don't have
> "the headnox arrangement."  He has trouble getting to sleep without her
> on his head now.  

Who needs Ambien when you have a headnox!

> No, I think I'm going to take the risk that Smokey has learned the
> consequences of facebiting, unless it starts to become a regular
> occurrance.

If he does it again, hiss at him again. That seemed pretty effective -
he really seemed to get the message. But it might require a few repeat
occurrences before he learns the lesson permanently.

Joyce
Lesley - 14 Aug 2006 10:58 GMT
.  Dylan and Nox
> would BOTH be cranky beyond belief if (or rather, when) they don't have
> "the headnox arrangement."  He has trouble getting to sleep without her
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>
>-We need a photo of a full-on headnox!

Lesley

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Takayuki - 15 Aug 2006 04:07 GMT
>That would never work here.  Not when kittens sleep on top of their
>motherfather and Nox sleeps on our heads every night.  Dylan and Nox
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>he belongs.  In fact, he is having a nap right now (7 pm) and she is on
>his head.

That reminds me of the Simpsons segment, "Hell Toupee".

And some cats really do belong in the bedroom.  I can't even imagine
going to bed without Betty.
badwilson - 15 Aug 2006 07:09 GMT
>> That would never work here.  Not when kittens sleep on top of their
>> motherfather and Nox sleeps on our heads every night.  Dylan and Nox
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> And some cats really do belong in the bedroom.  I can't even imagine
> going to bed without Betty.

This is true.  Vino was built for bed.  I can't imagine what I'd do
without my furry purry bed buddy with me every night.  It would just be
*wrong*.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Aug 2006 07:29 GMT
> This is true.  Vino was built for bed.  I can't imagine what I'd do
> without my furry purry bed buddy with me every night.  It would just be
> *wrong*.

Is he still curling up with his back spooned into your chest? I thought
that sounded so cute.

Joyce
badwilson - 15 Aug 2006 09:00 GMT
>> This is true.  Vino was built for bed.  I can't imagine what I'd do
>> without my furry purry bed buddy with me every night.  It would just
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>
> Joyce

Yup, yup.  He's such a love slut now.  I love it!  It took 8 years and a
major illness, but I finally have a lapcat :-)
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Cheryl - 11 Aug 2006 22:17 GMT
> He knew better than to lunge at faces, PARTICULARLY when he
> actually HAD been fed already.

Uh oh.  Well, (devils advocate mode) maybe he left the wrong kind
of meat food and Smokey wanted face?  Ok ok, sorry for the bad
joke. I understand. I have a bitey cat (Shamrock) and luckily for
me he has a broken fang (sealed with something or other by TED) and
if it wasn't for a blunt instrument, I'd have more puncture wounds.  
He's only capable of breaking skin with one fang, and he usually
doesn't succeed.

Today though Scarlett got me GOOD.  Not by biting, but scratching.
It isn't her fault, so I wasn't mad at her. I had a delivery of a
new washer and dryer and since they were taking my old ones, I knew
the door would be propped open for a while, so I wanted all 4
kitties to be in my bedroom with the door shut during this.  Rhett
was hard to corral, but I finally got him in.  Scarlett wouldn't
come out from behind the couch so I had to catch her and when she
saw the delivery man, she FLIPPED out and scratched my chest, my
arms and almost my face trying to get out of my arms while I
carried her to my bedroom.  One scratch bruised within seconds!

They've all finally forgiven me for having to chase/catch to get
them in my room. But that's better than leaving them out to
possibly accidently get out of the house. Especially through the
front door. I'd be the one to flip out if they did.

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Cheryl - 11 Aug 2006 22:46 GMT
>  I had a delivery of a
> new washer and dryer and since they were taking my old ones, I
> knew the door would be propped open for a while, so I wanted all
> 4 kitties to be in my bedroom with the door shut during this.

My new washer doesn't have a filter that sits on top of the agitator
like my old (17 years old) one did. That thing filtered out tons of
cat fur. Mostly from sheets, blankets, and even my clothes. I don't
see anything in the owners manual about something to clean out
lint/fur/etc, so where does the fur go? Anyone know? It wasn't a
cheap washing machine, and it has all sorts of other features, but
nothing that addresses where the stuff stuck to fabric goes when it's
washed.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 11 Aug 2006 23:08 GMT
>> I had a delivery of a
>>new washer and dryer and since they were taking my old ones, I
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> nothing that addresses where the stuff stuck to fabric goes when it's
> washed.

Check to see whether the booklet lists a web-site or
telephone number for questions.  The kind of washers I grew
up with didn't have lint filters, but nothing was enclosed,
and you had to drain them manually, so there really wasn't
any place lint could accumulate, it just drained out into
the sink, along with the water.  (Maybe eventually clogging
the drains, but if you could see it, you could put a
strainer in the sink drain to catch it.)
Jo Firey - 12 Aug 2006 00:29 GMT
>>> I had a delivery of a new washer and dryer and since they were taking my
>>> old ones, I
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> but if you could see it, you could put a strainer in the sink drain to
> catch it.)

Our washers haven't had a filter for a long time.  Twenty or more years.  We
would likely be better off if they did at we have to have that drain cleared
almost once a year.  Not so much because of the washer as because of strange
construction, but the hair and fur don't help.

Jo
Cheryl - 12 Aug 2006 00:57 GMT
> Our washers haven't had a filter for a long time.  Twenty or
> more years.  We would likely be better off if they did at we
> have to have that drain cleared almost once a year.  Not so much
> because of the washer as because of strange construction, but
> the hair and fur don't help.

So now I know why I've seen filters that you attach to the hose that
drains washer water into the wash tub. I think I can make something
that'll work. Some screen material attached by a clamp, but it would
have to be easily removed for cleaning, and something that doesn't
block the water from being drained.

Thanks all. I thought I must have gotten a cheap (not $$ cheap)
washer. Kenmore is a brand everyone I know swears by.

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Joy - 12 Aug 2006 01:03 GMT
>> Our washers haven't had a filter for a long time.  Twenty or
>> more years.  We would likely be better off if they did at we
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> Thanks all. I thought I must have gotten a cheap (not $$ cheap)
> washer. Kenmore is a brand everyone I know swears by.

I've been using Kenmores for 30 years, and I just recently got my third one.
I'd say they're pretty good.  ;-)  I do miss the lint filter you can clean,
though.  My last one didn't have one either.

Joy
Jo Firey - 12 Aug 2006 01:53 GMT
>> Our washers haven't had a filter for a long time.  Twenty or
>> more years.  We would likely be better off if they did at we
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks all. I thought I must have gotten a cheap (not $$ cheap)
> washer. Kenmore is a brand everyone I know swears by.

My mom used to have her washing machine set up to drain into a laundry tub
and she had a metal kitchen colander rigged up to catch lint.

Jo
mlbriggs - 14 Aug 2006 01:22 GMT
>> Our washers haven't had a filter for a long time.  Twenty or
>> more years.  We would likely be better off if they did at we
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks all. I thought I must have gotten a cheap (not $$ cheap)
> washer. Kenmore is a brand everyone I know swears by.

If your hose drains into the wash tub, you could tie an old nylon stocking
to the end to act as a filter.  When it gets too much lint in it, put
another one in its place.   Mine drains into a pipe in the wall.  A number
of years ago Princess (RB16) was at the bathroom door making moaning
sounds.  I went to see what she was looking at and found the bathroom
flooded.  To make the story short, the pipe in the wall had become clogged
and it flooded.  (This was after about 30 years of use).  The plumber had
to replace the pipe because the lint had hardened and a pencil lead sized
hole was all that remained.   MLB
Karen - 12 Aug 2006 00:22 GMT
>> I had a delivery of a new washer and dryer and since they were taking
>> my old ones, I
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> washing machine, and it has all sorts of other features, but nothing
> that addresses where the stuff stuck to fabric goes when it's washed.

For me it just sticks to the sides of the drum and I have to wipe it out.
mlbriggs - 12 Aug 2006 00:44 GMT
>>  I had a delivery of a
>> new washer and dryer and since they were taking my old ones, I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> nothing that addresses where the stuff stuck to fabric goes when it's
> washed.

Down the drain.
MaryL - 12 Aug 2006 03:09 GMT
>>  I had a delivery of a
>> new washer and dryer and since they were taking my old ones, I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> nothing that addresses where the stuff stuck to fabric goes when it's
> washed.

I haven't had filters on the washers I have had for the past 28 years (first
a GE, then a Maytag Neptune since moving to this house 10 year ago).  No
problems!  I think they simply are not needed in most situations.  Now, the
dryer is a different story.  I clean that after every one or two loads.

MaryL
Cheryl - 12 Aug 2006 03:33 GMT
> I haven't had filters on the washers I have had for the past 28
> years (first a GE, then a Maytag Neptune since moving to this
> house 10 year ago).  No problems!  I think they simply are not
> needed in most situations.  Now, the dryer is a different story.
>  I clean that after every one or two loads.

I'm still thinking that I need to pour drain cleaner down the washer
tub on a regular basis if there's nothing to filter it from the
washer. Plus, the hose from the washer to the tub must get clogged
over time; sort of like plaque in the veins of someone with
heart/high blood pressure health problems.

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MaryL - 12 Aug 2006 06:28 GMT
>> I haven't had filters on the washers I have had for the past 28
>> years (first a GE, then a Maytag Neptune since moving to this
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> over time; sort of like plaque in the veins of someone with
> heart/high blood pressure health problems.

I have never had a problem with clogging, in all the years I have used
washing machines without filters.  My mother used to have a washing machine
that collected lint on the outer edge of the agitator (by design), but that
was many years ago.  The washing machine seems to simply flush everything
out into the sewage system, and I have never had a problem.

MaryL
cybercat - 15 Aug 2006 04:17 GMT
> > I haven't had filters on the washers I have had for the past 28
> > years (first a GE, then a Maytag Neptune since moving to this
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> over time; sort of like plaque in the veins of someone with
> heart/high blood pressure health problems.

Check with the manufacturer AND a plumber before you obsess yourself into
serious problems.
mlbriggs - 12 Aug 2006 01:01 GMT
> Smokey Poke may be a cat, but he is in the doghouse today.
>
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>
> --Fil

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