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Steve Touchstone - 09 Aug 2006 22:50 GMT
Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
needed to turn again onto a 4 lane about 100 yards after leaving the
parking lot. Suddenly the left front end did a nose dive. I'm looking
through a shower of sparks watching one of my wheels roll down the
road.

I got as far to the right as possible, hit the four way flasher, and
took off walking down the road chasing my wheel. While I'm walking
down the road I got on the cell and called the store, letting them
know what happened so that they can get another driver to come finish
my delivery.

Also, while I'm walking I'm thinking that if something like this had
to happen, it really couldn't have happened at a better time and
place. First, I had just turned onto the road and was about to make a
turn, so I was going much slower than the 45mph speed limit. It would
have been much worse if I had make the turn and was going down the
other road at the speed limit (50mph), or even worse made the turn
onto the turnpike another half mile down the road where the limit is
65 mph. Second, it's almost 1AM - I'm the only vehicle on the road at
the time. While I'm still in the truck watching the wheel roll up the
road, I remember hoping and praying that no one picks that time to
come up the off ramp.

About the time I make it back to the truck with the runaway wheel the
other driver arrives, grabs the food and heads off to make the
delvery. I get out my flashlight and start looking the situation over.
Front left rotor resting on the ground, and of course it's shot, no
longer round it's flat on one side, and the hub cover is missing. I
head back the road and find the cover, but can only find one lug nut.
About the time I find the lug nut a cop shows up. I tell him what's
going on.

While I'm trying to figure out how to fit a 6 inch tall jack under an
axle that's now about 2-3 inches off the ground he starts looking for
the missing lug nuts. Another cop shows up, and together they check
both sides of the road, all four lanes, looking for the missing lug
nuts. Another store employee (ex Army mechanic) shows up and together
we figure out a way to jack up the truck, using two jacks on the frame
to get it high enough to get another one under the axle. As we're
getting the wheel on (stealing one lug nut from two of the other
wheels) the cops come back to report no luck finding more lug nuts.

We talk it over and I decide to just limp to the local Midas (naton
wide chain of brake/exhaust/suspension specialists) shop, which,
luckily, just happens to be 6-8 blocks away. One of the cops takes
off, while the other follows me with his lights going, waits while I
leave the keys in the mail box and a note telling them what happened
and promising to call first thing in the morning. Then he gives me a
ride back to the pizza shop.

Tomorrow, well later this morning, I'll find out what this will end up
costing. I know the brake rotor is shot, and rather than replacing one
I'll end up replacing both. As long as I'm having to replace those,
will also look at repacking the wheel bearings, new brake pads and
front end alighnment. Not even thinking about what else could be
damaged, I won't be surprised if I end up just handing over my
paycheck to Midas. Another lucky break, payday is Thursday, but my
boss was managing tonight and went ahead and paid me cash tonight to
make sure I have enough for the repairs.

Can you tell I'm trying hard to keep remembering how much worse things
could have been? Tonight I'm just thankful that no one was hurt - just
damage to the truck. Tomorrow I imagine I'll start to get  p*ssed off
when I learn how much the damage is going to cost. Did I mention my
discovery when I got back to the pizza parking lot? It looks like
someone took off some of the lug nuts there in the parking lot,
loosening the ones not removed completely. I found one of them on the
far side of the lot where no one ever parks. Yep, I figure I might be
more than a little PO'ed tomorrow. No way to ever find out who the
prankster was. I'm guessing someone with a little too much to drink
came out of one of the bars on either side of the shop, noticed I had
a lug wrench in the bed of the truck, and thought it'd be a funny
joke.

Okay enough of that, now for a little Rant off the truck topic: I've
been having server glitches here lately. After relating the problem
with the truck, an error message popped up saying my server didn't
recognise my user ID/password. I finally get caught up with the group
- mainly by lurking and not replying to many posts, except silent
purrs to those in need, and now my server is conspiring to put me
behind again.

This is the second time in the past couple weeks this has happened.
Last time was on a Friday night, which meant I couldn't upload or
download anything from the newsgroup server. By Monday, when I had
tech support available, it was recognizing me. Now the problem is back
;-(( I don't know when this message will actually be sent off -
Probably not until I've been able to find out what the damage will
cost. So I may post an update at the same time this goes out.

OK, rather than posting a separate update (since the stinking server
has yet to allow me to sent off the original) here's the update. Cost
ended up to be $536.94. Actually that cost is inflated, since I okayed
work that really had nothing to do with losing the wheel. I probably
could have picked up the truck and driven away for less than half
that. But, like I mentioned above, since they had the truck in the
shop anyway, I did a lot of "might as well" work. They had to replace
the one rotor, so "might as well" replace both. The brake pads may
have had another 20,000 miles on them, but "might as well" replace
them since they're doing the rotors. The rotors were off, so "might as
well" repack the wheel bearings. You get the idea, those "might as
well" charges add up after a while. I didn't have to pay for the pads,
though. I have the Midas lifetime warranty and they agreed to go ahead
and replace them early. Midas really didn't have people like me in
mind when they thought up that life time warranty - I bought the truck
almost 20 years and over 200,000 miles ago and they've replaced the
brakes, shocks and done exhaust work several times.

Oh, and after picking up the truck I stopped by the pizza shop to they
them it was repaired and pick up a pizza to bring home so Sammy would
have a warm box to sit on (had to to sneak in something cat related
into the post). As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and
stopped. Yep another of the missing lug nuts.
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Karen - 09 Aug 2006 23:33 GMT
Dirty litter to the "prankster". Yeah, the prankster could have killed
you or someone else :(  I'm glad it came out ok and actually for all
you had done I thought that was a pretty good price so I suppose it's
all good, but that could really have been bad. Rocky was looking out
for you.
Shel-hed - 09 Aug 2006 23:36 GMT
>Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.

>Did I mention my
>discovery when I got back to the pizza parking lot? It looks like
>someone took off some of the lug nuts there in the parking lot,
>loosening the ones not removed completely. I found one of them on the
>far side of the lot where no one ever parks.

I knew the end of this before I read it.  Report it to the cops.
Has anyone been fired from the store lately?
Steve Touchstone - 10 Aug 2006 10:17 GMT
>>Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>I knew the end of this before I read it.  Report it to the cops.
>Has anyone been fired from the store lately?

Nope, no one fired recently. I cleaned the bed of my trunk earlier in
the day, and I USED to leave my 4 way lug wrench on the spare under
the tool box. I figure it was a drunk from one of the bars - we have
bars on both sides of us - came out, saw the lug wrench, and thought
it's be a funny joke.

And, since the police were on the scene within minutes of when it
happened they know about it, although I don't know if anything was
written up. Out location is patrolled pretty heavily, several bars
along that strip and a rough neighborhood.

BTW, tonight a drunk came out of the bar, backed up and then hit
another one of our driver's car on the way out of the parking lot.
Then drove away. The manager happened to be at the door and saw the
whole thing. We came outside in time get the license number, and were
on the phone right away to report the hit and run (also in time to see
the drunk run the red light three blocks south of the store). A cop
arrived within a few minutes to take a report, but by the time he was
there the drunk had already been stopped further down the road. From
what he told us the drunk has no insurance (required by state law) and
had already been arrested before he called in his report on the hit
and run incident..
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abc - 11 Aug 2006 01:06 GMT
>>> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
>>> Did I mention my
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> bars on both sides of us - came out, saw the lug wrench, and thought
> it's be a funny joke.

Possibly a drunk I guess. Or possibly a co-worker? If your truck was in
plain site or parked right in front of the store as most delivery
drivers do you would think SOMEONE would notice- are your co-workers blind?
Joy - 09 Aug 2006 23:54 GMT
Wow!  What an adventure!  Yes, it could have been a lot worse, but it still
must have been nerve-racking.  And it's infuriating to think that it's
because someone thought he was being funny.  It was good that the police
were so helpful.  I'm glad you're all right, but I'd be angry, too.

Joy

> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
[quoted text clipped - 111 lines]
> into the post). As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and
> stopped. Yep another of the missing lug nuts.
sriddles@aol.com - 10 Aug 2006 00:24 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
[quoted text clipped - 115 lines]
> faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Spot
> with loving memories of Rocky (RB)

You were so lucky that it didn't cause an accident that got you hurt.
That is *awful* that someone would do that as a prank. Do you have
transportation until you get your truck back?

Sherry
Lesley - 10 Aug 2006 10:40 GMT
> You were so lucky that it didn't cause an accident that got you hurt.
> That is *awful* that someone would do that as a prank.

The worse prank we ever had played on us was many years ago. At the
time, we had Speedy Joe and the d*g thing Motley. Dave was out of work
so once a week he had to walk down to the dole office and sign on. He'd
get out early, take Motley for a run and then walk down and sign on and
then take Motley to the park on the way back so it was  a good exercise
for Motley.

Dave wasn't allowed to take Motley into the dole office so he tied the
lead to some railings and went in.

Then one day he came out and Motley was gone. The lead hadn't snapped,
it looked like someone had unclipped it and in fact, there were a
couple of youths standing there sniggering. Dave didn't stop to
challenge them he went looking for Motley

There was a very good reason Motley was on a lead on roads- he had no
road sense. He got half back up the main road and then he must have
seen something on the other side and gone after it...He almost made it
before a police car hit and killed him

I suppose someone thought it was funny, we didn't

Lesley

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Marina - 11 Aug 2006 04:01 GMT
> There was a very good reason Motley was on a lead on roads- he had no
> road sense. He got half back up the main road and then he must have
> seen something on the other side and gone after it...He almost made it
> before a police car hit and killed him
>
> I suppose someone thought it was funny, we didn't

Oh, that's terrible, Lesley! I'm speechless!

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badwilson - 10 Aug 2006 02:58 GMT
OMG, Steve!  That's totally outrageous that someone would take off your
lug nuts in the parking lot!  How evil can someone get?!?  People like
that deserve to be the victim of the accident that could have caused!!!
I'm so glad to hear that no innocent people were hurt though.  What a
PITA.
I had a similar accident in college.  I was 18 and had borrowed the car
from a classmate.  Was driving on a narrow, curvy mountain road when
suddenly the tire came off the rim.  Crashed the car into the side of
the mountain, $1800 in damage and this was in 1990.  Couldn't tell my
parents because they would have flipped, so paid for it all using my
food money and ate what I could scrounge and shoplift for 2 years :-(
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> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
[quoted text clipped - 111 lines]
> into the post). As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and
> stopped. Yep another of the missing lug nuts.
Enfilade - 10 Aug 2006 03:23 GMT
> OMG, Steve!  That's totally outrageous that someone would take off your
> lug nuts in the parking lot!  How evil can someone get?!?

And it could happen to anyone too... I think I'm gonna get back in the
habit of inspecting my car like I would an airplane, with a walkaround
before I get into it and drive it.

Nocturne sends plans for a special torment for the idiot who did that
to you.  like putting his eternal soul in the cosmic litterbox.

--Fil
Marina - 10 Aug 2006 03:38 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.

What a terrible thing to happen! I'm so glad you weren't hurt, Steve. Or
anyone else. Purrs for your wallet.

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Sam - 10 Aug 2006 04:31 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
[quoted text clipped - 111 lines]
> into the post). As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and
> stopped. Yep another of the missing lug nuts.
Ouch!  As you said, you'll probably never find the a**hole(s) who stole
the lugnuts, but if you do, you have my permission to pound some sense
into them.  I'm so glad you weren't injured (or worse).

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tanada - 10 Aug 2006 06:06 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
> needed to turn again onto a 4 lane about 100 yards after leaving the
> parking lot. Suddenly the left front end did a nose dive. I'm looking
> through a shower of sparks watching one of my wheels roll down the
> road.

Thank Bog you're ok, Steve and only really light in your pocket for repairs.
I hope that the "prankster" who pulled such a dirty trick finds himself
dealing with a lot of dirty litter offerings in the future.  The slime could
had done much worse.  I'm so glad that you're a really good driver and was
able to recover.

Pam S. glad that you're still around you big lug.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Aug 2006 10:57 GMT
> Did I mention my
> discovery when I got back to the pizza parking lot? It looks like
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> a lug wrench in the bed of the truck, and thought it'd be a funny
> joke.

I can't believe this. You could have been killed! Or you could have
accidentally killed someone else. Have you reported this discovery to
the police? Whoever did this should be charged with a crime.

> OK, rather than posting a separate update (since the stinking server
> has yet to allow me to sent off the original) here's the update. Cost
> ended up to be $536.94. Actually that cost is inflated, since I okayed
> work that really had nothing to do with losing the wheel. I probably
> could have picked up the truck and driven away for less than half
> that.

You should probably collect from your auto insurance for this because
basically it comes down to vandalism. Of course, with the deductible,
you probably have to pay out of pocket anyway, but it's worth a shot.
Well, assuming you have comprehensive coverage, which, come to think
of it, you might not have on a truck with 200K miles. :)

> Oh, and after picking up the truck I stopped by the pizza shop to they
> them it was repaired and pick up a pizza to bring home so Sammy would
> have a warm box to sit on (had to to sneak in something cat related
> into the post).

A cat who has apparently been talking to Stinky, or reading Dante's
missives on this newsgroup! :)

> As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and stopped. Yep
> another of the missing lug nuts.

Well, that's sort of creepy. How do you think it got in there? I sure
hope it wasn't one of the other employees at your pizza shop who did
this to you. I guess maybe someone just found it in the parking lot.

Well, I'm sorry you were the victim of a pretty serious prank, but I'm
glad you didn't lose more than some cash!

Joyce
Steve Touchstone - 11 Aug 2006 11:08 GMT
>You should probably collect from your auto insurance for this because
>basically it comes down to vandalism. Of course, with the deductible,
>you probably have to pay out of pocket anyway, but it's worth a shot.
>Well, assuming you have comprehensive coverage, which, come to think
>of it, you might not have on a truck with 200K miles. :)

Like you guessed, I just have liability because of it's age.

> > Oh, and after picking up the truck I stopped by the pizza shop to they
> > them it was repaired and pick up a pizza to bring home so Sammy would
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>A cat who has apparently been talking to Stinky, or reading Dante's
>missives on this newsgroup! :)

I did read those posts to Sammy. She'd fust like to point out the the
absolute best time for pizza box sitting is while the hoomin is eating
with it sitting in his lap. That way you're both in his lap for
scritches, on a warm box, and can snag the ocassional bite. She's
expecially partial to BBQ chicket pizza with extra cheese, but doesn't
seem to care for jalapenos ;-)

> > As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and stopped. Yep
> > another of the missing lug nuts.
>
>Well, that's sort of creepy. How do you think it got in there? I sure
>hope it wasn't one of the other employees at your pizza shop who did
>this to you. I guess maybe someone just found it in the parking lot.

Another case where my fingers were typing too fast and I wasn't clear.
What I meant to say was that when I started out of the parking lot,
turned to check for traffic, and spotted a lug nut lying along the
curb. I stopped and picked it up, and sure enough it was off my truck,
so five lug nuts are accounted for - two in the parking lot and three
where the wheel came off. I someone took two completely off, throwing
them across the parking lot so I wouldn't notice them, and loosened
the other three. When I made the turn out onto the road one fell off,
stripping the threads off about the last quarter of that stud. When I
started to turn, going at a higher speed, and the two remaining nuts
snapped the studs, one about a quarter inch and the other about half
an inch.
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Jane - 11 Aug 2006 13:49 GMT
> Another case where my fingers were typing too fast and I wasn't clear.
> What I meant to say was that when I started out of the parking lot,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> an inch.
> --

WHO on earth would do such a cruel, dangerous thing??  What kind of
twisted mind thinks up this stuff?

I'm just shaking my head in disbelief.

I'm glad you're okay.  Sorry about your truck.

Jane
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Cheryl - 11 Aug 2006 23:02 GMT
> WHO on earth would do such a cruel, dangerous thing??  What kind of
> twisted mind thinks up this stuff?
>
> I'm just shaking my head in disbelief.
>
> I'm glad you're okay.  Sorry about your truck.

My thoughts exactly, Jane. I am so sad that there are people that do
something like this on purpose.

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rrb - 12 Aug 2006 00:38 GMT
>> WHO on earth would do such a cruel, dangerous thing??  What kind of
>>  twisted mind thinks up this stuff?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> My thoughts exactly, Jane. I am so sad that there are people that do
>  something like this on purpose.

As to the who it takes all kinds. As to the why he probably pissed
someone one off even if just in the mind of the perpetrator.
Jo Firey - 11 Aug 2006 16:17 GMT
>>You should probably collect from your auto insurance for this because
>>basically it comes down to vandalism. Of course, with the deductible,
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> snapped the studs, one about a quarter inch and the other about half
> an inch.
I just cannot fathom what kind of person would do such a thing.  How totally
their life must suck to get something out of taking the lugs nuts off your
truck.  Here you are driving an old truck and delivering pizza in the middle
of the night for a living (and I don't mean any offense in that) and they
have to mess with that and nearly kill you?

I really try to understand what motivates people, but I really have a
problem when people do this sort of thing.  And I know it isn't that
uncommon.

I hope the money you put into the truck keeps it going for quite a little
while longer.  It was still less than a couple of payments.

Jo
Adrian A - 10 Aug 2006 12:24 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
> needed to turn again onto a 4 lane about 100 yards after leaving the
> parking lot. Suddenly the left front end did a nose dive. I'm looking
> through a shower of sparks watching one of my wheels roll down the
> road.
<snip>

How outrageous! I'm just glad nobody was hurt. It's a pity there's no chance
of catching the idiot that loosened the nuts. Purrs for you finances.
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 10 Aug 2006 12:37 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery tonight.
> I pulled out of the parking lot, turning north towards Fort Sill. I
[quoted text clipped - 71 lines]
> a lug wrench in the bed of the truck, and thought it'd be a funny
> joke.

Something similar happened to my brother when we were both still in High
School.  He worked at a locally owned grocery/hardware/sporting goods store,
and when he left one night, his right rear wheel passed him by!  Not as much
damage was done to his truck as was to yours, but like yours, some fidjit
(F!@#$ idjit) had removed the lugnuts!

> Okay enough of that, now for a little Rant off the truck topic: I've
> been having server glitches here lately. After relating the problem
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> into the post). As I was leaving I glanced over, saw something and
> stopped. Yep another of the missing lug nuts.
Cheryl - 11 Aug 2006 22:54 GMT
> Let me tell you a little a story about my last pizza delivery
> tonight.
<snip>

Steve, I for one thank you for your story, though I'm sorry all that
happened to you. I was happy that the police helped you out, and the
mechanic, and the part about the lug nuts found in your parking lot
also doesn't surprise me about some people and their choice of
pranks. Their prank could have killed you or someone else.  That's
just criminal.

Bummer about the cost you've had to foot because someone is a total
a.shole. :(

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Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Aug 2006 19:20 GMT
> It looks like someone took off some of the lug nuts there in the
> parking lot, loosening the ones not removed completely. I found one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> shop, noticed I had a lug wrench in the bed of the truck, and
> thought it'd be a funny joke.

Just read this.  WTF?  That's horrible.  There are enough awful things
that can happen to people on the road without considering stuff like
this, too.  What kind of a twisted excuse for a human being would do
something like this??

The MSF class taught us to do a walk around our motorcycles before
every ride (not that I ever do it, but they did tell us to!) to check
for all sorts of things -- brakes, lights, etc.  Maybe a walk around
any vehicle before driving off isn't a bad idea.

I don't know that I would have noticed something like this, though.

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Jo Firey - 21 Aug 2006 21:59 GMT
>> It looks like someone took off some of the lug nuts there in the
>> parking lot, loosening the ones not removed completely. I found one
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> I don't know that I would have noticed something like this, though.

Don't know if I would have noticed either at 1am with my hands full, but
that is one thing Daddy taught us all.  Always walk all the way around a car
before you get in.

Jo
 
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