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Hazel Baker - 08 Aug 2006 17:02 GMT Hi~~ Saturday morning early, and Thomas ,who usually comes up from the laundry room after knocking down the recycle cans on the steps [to make sure I heard him] drags himself up and totally ignores his breakfast. His tail is at half mast and he lies down as if he was about to pass away! I had a Mon. A.M. appt. for his yearly checkup so I called to bring him in right away. They couldn't fit him in , but gave me a number for an emergency vet. They gave me an appt. for noon time. My daughter and I took turns checking Thomas' breathing as he was just lying there. It was the longest morning of my life! He turned out to be constipated, so they took an X-ray and found out that he didn't need an enema. The Vet told me to get a can of pumpkin and put 1 tsp. in his food for about a week. Has anyone heard of this remedy?? It seemed to work. as his bowels moved the next day. Thomas is getting along fine, but I'm still in shock.....Never realized until Sat. morning how much I cared about him. He's my 21lb furry brat[not obese, just BIG] Hazel P.S. It cost me $75.00 just to walk in the Emergency Vets door and $100.00 for the X-ray. How can anyone afford such prices? Especially if they have more than one beloved animal.
sriddles@aol.com - 08 Aug 2006 17:25 GMT > Hi~~ Saturday morning early, and Thomas ,who usually comes up from the > laundry room after knocking down the recycle cans on the steps [to make [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > $100.00 for the X-ray. How can anyone afford such prices? Especially if > they have more than one beloved animal. Yes, I've heard of using pumpkin for cats. I'm glad to hear it's working for Thomas.
Sherry
Monique Y. Mudama - 08 Aug 2006 17:40 GMT > He turned out to be constipated, so they took an X-ray and found > out that he didn't need an enema. The Vet told me to get a can of > pumpkin and put 1 tsp. in his food for about a week. Has anyone heard of > this remedy?? It seemed to work. as his bowels moved the next day. Yup. Lots of fiber. I know Winnie has had to do this with Rusty; a few others, too, I think.
When Oscar had diarrhea from her antibiotics, I gave her a bit of powdered fiber supplement in tuna. (Fiber regulates in both directions.)
> P.S. It cost me $75.00 just to walk in the Emergency Vets door and > $100.00 for the X-ray. How can anyone afford such prices? Especially if > they have more than one beloved animal. I'm frankly shocked your regular vet couldn't find time to see you. My closest emergency vet isn't even open until 6pm; they only operate during holidays and after hours.
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Winnie - 08 Aug 2006 18:49 GMT > Yup. Lots of fiber. I know Winnie has had to do this with Rusty; a > few others, too, I think. Yup I have been giving Rusty a teaspoon of can Pumpkin every day for many years as an hariball remedy. I read it is better than the commercial hairball remedy. He loves it.
Winnie
> When Oscar had diarrhea from her antibiotics, I gave her a bit of > powdered fiber supplement in tuna. (Fiber regulates in both [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Winnie - 08 Aug 2006 18:55 GMT > Hi~~ Saturday morning early, and Thomas ,who usually comes up from the > laundry room after knocking down the recycle cans on the steps [to make [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > $100.00 for the X-ray. How can anyone afford such prices? Especially if > they have more than one beloved animal. Yes, that was about what I paid just walking in the emergency clinic. I've been to the emergency more times than I care to remember, with Rusty's history of urinary blockages. But his regular vet will see him right away in case of emergency if his clinic is opened. One time Rusty passed blood, and the regular vet saw to him immediately. His fees are a tad lower than other vets in town.
Winnie
Chakolate - 08 Aug 2006 19:37 GMT > He turned out to be constipated, so they took an X-ray and found > out that he didn't need an enema. The Vet told me to get a can of > pumpkin and put 1 tsp. in his food for about a week. Has anyone heard > of this remedy?? It seemed to work. as his bowels moved the next day. Oh, that's good to know. Both my guys *love* pumpkin.
Chak
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Jo Firey - 08 Aug 2006 20:25 GMT > Hi~~ Saturday morning early, and Thomas ,who usually comes up from the > laundry room after knocking down the recycle cans on the steps [to make [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > $100.00 for the X-ray. How can anyone afford such prices? Especially if > they have more than one beloved animal. Its a standard treatment (pumpkin).
And the price is about right, or at least customary. Our trip to the emergency vet with Kayla when we thought she may have been hit by the door (she wasn't) cost about that for visit and x-ray.
A few sad realities in life are that what things cost aren't based on what you can afford and what you get paid isn't based on what you need. Cats make stuff like that easier to bear at least.
So glad Thomas is OK and that the remedy appears to by working. Wonder if you can freeze pumpkin in ice cube trays to make a can last a while 1 tsp at a time.
Jo
Winnie - 08 Aug 2006 20:31 GMT > Its a standard treatment (pumpkin). > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you can freeze pumpkin in ice cube trays to make a can last a while 1 tsp at > a time. After I open a can of pumpkin, I freeze part of it in a jar. It has worked well so far.
Winnie
> Jo Mischief - 08 Aug 2006 21:13 GMT That's the price for the e-clinic i worked at this weekend. x-rays would have cost more, but everything is more expensive at the vet clinic. And I'm surprised that your vet couldn't fit him in. Something like that and my doctor would have said to bring him in.
Also on a side note about e-clinics, check out my Vet tech journals entry on E-clinics. I think it's in the archives
Kristi
jmcquown - 08 Aug 2006 22:51 GMT > He turned out to be constipated, so they took an X-ray and found > out that he didn't need an enema. The Vet told me to get a can of > pumpkin and put 1 tsp. in his food for about a week. Has anyone heard > of this remedy?? It seemed to work. as his bowels moved the next day. I was told to feed my dog Sampson pumpkin (plain pumpkin, not the "pie filling" - there is a definite and important distinction) when he had problems digesting food. It worked but he hated pumpkin and would only eat as a last resort - i.e. he was starving. I'm not sure what Persia would think of it.
Jill
Hazel Baker - 09 Aug 2006 17:54 GMT Hi~~ Thanks for answering my question!! The advice for freezing the pumpkin is super. I didn't know what I could do with this huge can! Thomas seems to be his normal self now. He spends his nights in the laundry room as I have a twin bed , and being as big as he is, I don't imagine that I would have much room.;) Thanks again and purrs from Thomas. Hazel
Monique Y. Mudama - 09 Aug 2006 23:48 GMT > Hi~~ Thanks for answering my question!! The advice for freezing the > pumpkin is super. I didn't know what I could do with this huge can! > Thomas seems to be his normal self now. He spends his nights in the > laundry room as I have a twin bed , and being as big as he is, I > don't imagine that I would have much room.;) Thanks again and purrs > from Thomas. Hazel So glad to read that the fiber did the trick and Thomas is feeling better.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Aug 2006 05:29 GMT > So glad to read that the fiber did the trick and Thomas is feeling > better. OK, now here's a question: does this also work on humans? :)
It's not a problem for me at the moment, but you never know when it will strike.
Joyce
Winnie - 10 Aug 2006 14:16 GMT > OK, now here's a question: does this also work on humans? :) > > It's not a problem for me at the moment, but you never know when it > will strike. > > Joyce Yes. Pumpkin has lots of fibre and is good for human too since many of us don't get enough fibre. As I posted earlier, I regularly add pumpkin to my pancake batter.
Winnie
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Aug 2006 14:48 GMT >> OK, now here's a question: does this also work on humans? :) >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of us don't get enough fibre. As I posted earlier, I regularly add > pumpkin to my pancake batter. The thing to be aware of is that there are two types of fiber, soluble and insoluble. Soluble fiber will help with both types of problems, C and D. Insoluble fiber can in some cases make D worse. Pumpkin I think is soluble, so it's great.
Here's an explanation:
http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/fiber1.asp
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Winnie - 10 Aug 2006 15:34 GMT > The thing to be aware of is that there are two types of fiber, soluble > and insoluble. Soluble fiber will help with both types of problems, C [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/fiber1.asp Yes pumpkin is listed as soluble on this website. Turns out the book I am reading Eating for IBS is also listed on the website. This book is very good.
Winnie
> -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Aug 2006 16:22 GMT >> http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/fiber1.asp > > Yes pumpkin is listed as soluble on this website. Turns out the book > I am reading Eating for IBS is also listed on the website. This book > is very good. That's because the person who created the website is also the author of the book =P
I have the book, too, but was a bit disappointed to find that all the information is already on the site. I mean, that's great, but it means the book is only really useful if you hate poking through websites for information, or if you really wanted the recipes. And again, she has lots of recipes on the site, and publishes more in her newsletter.
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Winnie - 10 Aug 2006 18:27 GMT > That's because the person who created the website is also the author > of the book =P I didn't know that.
> I have the book, too, but was a bit disappointed to find that all the > information is already on the site. I mean, that's great, but it > means the book is only really useful if you hate poking through > websites for information, or if you really wanted the recipes. And > again, she has lots of recipes on the site, and publishes more in her > newsletter. Good thing I only got the book from the library. Now I can just poke through the wesite for her recipes instead of copying them from the book.
Winnie
> -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Aug 2006 19:03 GMT > The thing to be aware of is that there are two types of fiber, soluble > and insoluble. Soluble fiber will help with both types of problems, C > and D. Insoluble fiber can in some cases make D worse. Pumpkin I > think is soluble, so it's great.
> Here's an explanation: > http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/fiber1.asp That was interesting, thanks. I guess I must not have IBS, as I eat a lot of foods in the insoluble list and don't have a lot of gastric distress. In fact, many of the foods in the insoluble fiber list are my favorites, so I'd be seriously bummed to have to limit them.
Is an IBS diet good for Crohn's, too?
Joyce
Karen - 10 Aug 2006 19:24 GMT > > The thing to be aware of is that there are two types of fiber, soluble > > and insoluble. Soluble fiber will help with both types of problems, C [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce It's really about how you eat the insoluble with the soluble. I think I have run into trouble because I ate almost solely the IF foods. If I make sure I eat bread, rice, pasta etc. first, I don't have much trouble. So it's a lot about HOW you eat things more than what you eat oftentimes.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 10 Aug 2006 19:39 GMT > > Is an IBS diet good for Crohn's, too?
> It's really about how you eat the insoluble with the soluble. I think I have > run into trouble because I ate almost solely the IF foods. If I make sure I > eat bread, rice, pasta etc. first, I don't have much trouble. So it's a lot > about HOW you eat things more than what you eat oftentimes. I guess this explains the BRAT diet. :)
Joyce
Jo Firey - 10 Aug 2006 21:14 GMT > > > Is an IBS diet good for Crohn's, too? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I guess this explains the BRAT diet. :) It does. I've been forced onto the BRAT diet the last couple of weeks and I'm getting really tired of it.
I've got to find some more interesting options.
This would happen just as my lovely tomatoes are getting ripe. You would not believe how I've babied these two plants. Right now we are working out a sibling rivalry issue. They are planted in a spot where I had a tree removed last year and had the stump ground. They are planted too close together since I was taking advantage of that mulch. And the cherry tomato has topped out its own cage and in now wanting to grow down the other cage.
Jo
Marina - 11 Aug 2006 03:49 GMT > This would happen just as my lovely tomatoes are getting ripe. You would > not believe how I've babied these two plants. Right now we are working out > a sibling rivalry issue. They are planted in a spot where I had a tree > removed last year and had the stump ground. They are planted too close > together since I was taking advantage of that mulch. And the cherry tomato > has topped out its own cage and in now wanting to grow down the other cage. LOL! Sibling rivalry among tomato plants! Now I've heard it all!
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jmcquown - 11 Aug 2006 00:11 GMT >>> Is an IBS diet good for Crohn's, too? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Joyce Oh please don't mention that! Every time I have a flare-up of IBS I get stuck eating the BRAT diet for about a week. And I hate applesauce!
jmcquown - 10 Aug 2006 03:28 GMT > Hi~~ Thanks for answering my question!! > The advice for freezing the pumpkin is super. I didn't know what I > could do with this huge can! Thomas seems to be his normal self now. > He spends his nights in the laundry room as I have a twin bed , and > being as big as he is, I don't imagine that I would have much room.;) > Thanks again and purrs from Thomas. Hazel Glad to hear Thomas is doing better. And here's an idea for canned pumpkin - make soup! From the American Heart Association Cookbook:
16 oz. can plain pumpkin 10-1/2 oz. can low-sodium chicken broth 1/4 tsp. salt 1/4 tsp. onion powder* 1/4 tsp. black pepper dash of ground nutmeg 12 oz. can evaporated skim milk 1/4 c. lowfat sour cream 1 Tbs. toasted pumpkin seeds (optional; garnish)
In medium saucepan combine pumpkin, broth, salt, onion powder (I use finely minced onion), pepper and nutmeg. Cover over medium-high heat until bubbly, about 10 minutes, stirring occasionally. Stir in evaporated skim milk. Heat through, about 5 minutes, but do not boil. Spoon into 4 bowls to serve and garnish with a dollop of non-fat sour cream and pumpkin seeds if desired.
Jill
Winnie - 10 Aug 2006 04:37 GMT > Hi~~ Thanks for answering my question!! > The advice for freezing the pumpkin is super. I didn't know what I could > do with this huge can! Thomas seems to be his normal self now. He spends > his nights in the laundry room as I have a twin bed , and being as big > as he is, I don't imagine that I would have much room.;) Thanks again > and purrs from Thomas. Hazel Glad to hear the Thomas is his normal self again. I add some canned pumpkin to my pancake batter to make pumpkin pancake..
Winnie
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