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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / August 2006Please help
Hello everyone, I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with his head down as if its stuck. I thought that he was having pain in it so I gently raise his head just to see if he will make a noise but no his neck seems fine. He is drinking water alot but he just won't lift his head. I am a nervous reck! He pants alot and I always let him in my bedroom where the air conditioner is, (he prefers it) Is it possible he has suffer a stroke or something? Has anyone else's kitty ever done this? > Hello everyone, I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden > walking around with his head down as if its stuck. I thought that he [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > is, (he prefers it) Is it possible he has suffer a stroke or > something? Has anyone else's kitty ever done this? Why haven't you already taken him to the vet?  Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Hello everyone, > I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bedroom where the air conditioner is, (he prefers it) Is it possible he > has suffer a stroke or something? Has anyone else's kitty ever done this? Get him to the vet right away. There are a lot of possible causes. This is frankly too much for us regular people here. Best I can recommend is that you get hold of your vet, directly! If the doc's not in, your local area probably has a night and weekend emergency vet. It'll be a few dollars more, but worth it to have Kitty checked out. Good luck to both of you! Blessed be, Baha > Hello everyone, > I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > conditioner is, (he prefers it) Is it possible he has suffer a stroke or > something? Has anyone else's kitty ever done this? Thanks to all who responded but to Adrian A, there was no need for you to attack me . I am upset as it is about my baby and here you go with your ignorance. btw it takes a troll to know a troll. That was just plain stupid of you. >This is frankly too much for us regular people here. Best I can recommend is that >you get hold of your vet, directly! If the doc's not in, your local area probably [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> conditioner is, (he prefers it) Is it possible he has suffer a stroke or >> something? Has anyone else's kitty ever done this? > Thanks to all who responded but to Adrian A, there was no need for > you to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > stupid > of you. You've never posted here or anywhere else before with that ID. There has been a troll in the past posting with a very similar ID. I believe you are lying. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk First of all..I just join this forum TODAY So if there was a person here with this ID in the pass then it wasn't me. Second of all..I am not lying and how dare you call me a liar. I am sitting here dying inside because I just found out that my furbaby has possibly had a stroke and i have to watch him walk around here with his head down suffering Only to have you attack me.. Unbelievable.. But to those who care.. I contacted the vet she told me its a great possibility that my Meow(which is his name) has had a stroke and since he is eating and drinking normally he will be going in to see her Monday morning. And I found out that there is an emergency clinic in my city and if he stop eating or seems any worse she advised me to rush him in and that exactly what I am going to do. >> Thanks to all who responded but to Adrian A, there was no need for >> you to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >been a troll in the past posting with a very similar ID. I believe you are >lying. > First of all..I just join this forum TODAY So if there was a person here > with this ID in the pass then it wasn't me. Second of all..I am not lying [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > walk around here with his head down suffering Only to have you attack me.. > Unbelievable.. ID or not, a person can't change her style of writing and grammar. "Pass" instead of "past" was a frequent mistake of our old friend "Holly". Anyone here remember Ms. Brain Tumor? > But to those who care.. > I contacted the vet she told me its a great possibility that my Meow(which [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>been a troll in the past posting with a very similar ID. I believe you are >>lying. >> First of all..I just join this forum TODAY So if there was a person here >> with this ID in the pass then it wasn't me. Second of all..I am not lying [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > instead of "past" was a frequent mistake of our old friend "Holly". > Anyone here remember Ms. Brain Tumor? And is it just me or are all these messages from the same place she posted from. It sure looks like each of them is from a different slightly changed sender. CatKB.com is ringing alarms. OK I need to go out and feed and water the abandoned animals across the street. And try to figure out a way to get this current foul mood out of my system. Maybe Kayla would like to go for a ride. I feel to crummy to go for a walk. My cats are being useless to me. Jake is keeping Charlie company. He knows who thaws his shrimp. And Molly is playing with the rabbits. She is delighted with the system of putting food and water outside for her convenience. Jo >> First of all..I just join this forum TODAY So if there was a person >> here with this ID in the pass then it wasn't me. Second of all..I am [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Pass" instead of "past" was a frequent mistake of our old friend > "Holly". Anyone here remember Ms. Brain Tumor? Yep, Miss I'm dying but I need attention because I'm dying of a brain tumor and just had surgery Holly... but I can still type from my desk at the office! And so can my husband! I miraculously improved in a day! Sheesh. Jill >> First of all..I just join this forum TODAY So if there was a person here >> with this ID in the pass then it wasn't me. Second of all..I am not lying [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > instead of "past" was a frequent mistake of our old friend "Holly". > Anyone here remember Ms. Brain Tumor? Oh, just a bit. It was only a few weeks ago that I found a card when I was clearing out the porch that I was about to send when it all blew. I had taken a lot of trouble to decorate it. I burnt it. I hope this is not going to happen again. Not long after that I was diagnosed with "real cancer" myself and I thought after Holly you might not believe me. I cannot believe the mindset of people who pretend these things. I think this is her again, too. Tweed > You've never posted here or anywhere else before with that ID. There has > been a troll in the past posting with a very similar ID. I believe you are > lying. Nice. Rhonda > Thanks to all who responded but to Adrian A, there was no need for you to > attack me . I am upset as it is about my baby and here you go with your > ignorance. btw it takes a troll to know a troll. That was just plain stupid > of you. Not really! Most people gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm sure Adrian and I were not the only ones who suspected you might be a troll. Especially if you have little experience with cats, any abnormal behaviour should say "take me to the doctor"! (Not "post dumb questions to a cat newsgroup".) How come it is a dumb question?? I have read many people ask many question about their cats in here but they wasn't call a troll. I just join this thread and already people are attacking me. And how do you know I have little experience with cats, I have had cats all my life. btw I thought that is what this forum was for ADVICE! >> Thanks to all who responded but to Adrian A, there was no need for you to >> attack me . I am upset as it is about my baby and here you go with your [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >say "take me to the doctor"! (Not "post dumb questions to a >cat newsgroup".) > I thought that is what this forum was for ADVICE! No, that is not its main reason for existing. You may be better off at rec.pets.cats.health or somewhere like that for this kind of thing. Sorry about your kitty. > How come it is a dumb question?? I have read many people ask many question > about their cats in here but they wasn't call a troll. I just join this > thread and already people are attacking me. And how do you know I have little > experience with cats, I have had cats all my life. btw I thought that is what > this forum was for ADVICE! I don't know. People get suspicious. I think that to many people here, it would be very obvious to them when it's time to take a pet to the vet, and perhaps because you had the need to ask, they think you're pulling their leg. People who are knowledgeable will often forget what it was like when they didn't know what they now know, and they think that everyone should know it, too. So they're either intolerant of someone who doesn't know what they know ("what a stupid question") or else they assume nobody could be that "stupid", so they must be pulling a prank. However, I do think it's possible that someone might not realize how serious an injury or illness might be, and asking in a forum like this one is a good place to receive the advice of: TAKE THE CAT TO THE VET NOW. So I'm glad you posted, because in spite of the suspicious responses you received, you also got good advice. My only addition would be that if I were in your position, I would not wait until Monday. I would be too worried to wait. The person who gave you advice over the phone did not actually see your cat, and I would want someone to see her (or him?) right away. I don't think I could sleep while waiting for Monday! Is there a weekend vet you could take her to? I'll feel better if you do. :) Joyce > > How come it is a dumb question?? I have read many people ask many question > > about their cats in here but they wasn't call a troll. I just join this [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Joyce Thank for your response Joyce, I am going to be honest, the only reason I asked the question in here was because I simply can't afford a vet at least I thought I couldn't. We have fallen on tough times now and I thought it was going to cost alot and I thought maybe if I got advice in here I couldn't probably be able to do something for him on my own. but I did find an emergency vet clinic and I am going to take him first thing in the morning.. only because I have to have someone take me and they can't do it until the morning. The price for his examination is reasonable and I will just have to cut back on a few things this week but my little guy is worth it. I love him so.. I know I probably do sound stupid to most in here but I honestly wanted to call the vet and I did. I know this post is probably gonna get me talked about too but..thats okay. This really seems like a good forum and I hope that bashing is over. btw what exactly is a troll..is that some kind of name for a bad person in forums or just simply a troll. >> > How come it is a dumb question?? I have read many people ask many >> > question [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > name > for a bad person in forums or just simply a troll. I would advise you to take your cat to the emergency vet *now.* I have no medical training, but if your cat has had a stroke -- a possibility that you said in one of your messages that someone in your vet's office raised -- then fast reaction is essential. Any delay (even a couple of hours) after a stroke diminishes the possibility of recovery. I know you are concerned about the cost, but the cost is also likely to increase with delay. You mentioned in that same messages that there were difficulties with transportation. Could you call on a friend or neighbor if public transportation is not available. In my opinion, something like what you described (a stroke or possibly another neurological problem) needs immediate medical attention. MaryL > I would advise you to take your cat to the emergency vet *now.* I have no > medical training, but if your cat has had a stroke -- a possibility that you > said in one of your messages that someone in your vet's office raised -- > then fast reaction is essential. Any delay (even a couple of hours) after a > stroke diminishes the possibility of recovery. I know you are concerned > about the cost, but the cost is also likely to increase with delay. This is a good point. You save money on transportation, but then end up spending much more later, when the condition has gotten worse and needs more expensive treatment. And that's not even considering the part of this that has no monetary value: the life and health of your cat. What about a taxi? If you don't have another friend who could take you now, could you get a cab to the vet's? Again, more expensive now, but maybe less expensive later. Good luck, I hope your baby's OK. Joyce > > I would advise you to take your cat to the emergency vet *now.* I have no > > medical training, but if your cat has had a stroke -- a possibility that you [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Joyce I totally agree with you both and thankfully my cousin is on his way in town, should be here within the hour and he promised to rush us to the emergency services. Thank you all for your advice. I will keep you all posted as soon as I can. >> > I would advise you to take your cat to the emergency vet *now.* I have >> > no [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > soon > as I can. That's great news! Thank you for taking care of your furbaby. Please keep us updated. MaryL >> > I would advise you to take your cat to the emergency vet *now.* I have >> > no [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > soon > as I can. Thank you for doing the right thing. I know money can be athing that people don't want to let go of but If you love your pet you will find the money somewhere some how I know I would not matter what A lot of us including my self as another poster said We see so many people come out here with obvious emergency or serious situations that would be screaming call 911 if it was a human child. So most of us including myself assume the person must be a troll. I post in all the cat groups like a lot of us and see this on a daily basis. Sometimes I am wrong but most of the time I am right when I label a poster with that title . The group IMO sometime forgets that some of us they call troll are actually naive but that is very seldom and far in between most time they are right. which is not something I am starting a flame war over or saying anyone is wrong Purrs and prayers for a good outcome for your furball please keep us informed and ask away if you have a question > I totally agree with you both and thankfully my cousin is on his way in town, > should be here within the hour and he promised to rush us to the emergency > services. Thank you all for your advice. I will keep you all posted as soon > as I can. Good luck, and I hope there's nothing serious wrong with your cat. Rhonda > People who are knowledgeable will often forget what it was like when > they didn't know what they now know, and they think that everyone should > know it, too. So they're either intolerant of someone who doesn't know > what they know ("what a stupid question") or else they assume nobody could > be that "stupid", so they must be pulling a prank. I guess we can never underestimate the "intelligence" of modern youth! I assumed from the poor English that the OP was a teen-ager (or younger) with nothing better to do than post clueless questions to newsgroups. If that is not the case, I apologize - but a visit to the vet still seems more logical than posting to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes for advice! > How come it is a dumb question?? I have read many people ask many > question about their cats in here but they wasn't call a troll. I > just join this thread and already people are attacking me. And how > do you know I have little experience with cats, I have had cats all > my life. btw I thought that is what this forum was for ADVICE! Frankly, your posting style makes you sound like a troll. It has enough in common to trip many people's BS-meters. Now, maybe you're not a troll. Maybe you're just a freaked-out kid (that's a guess based on your writing style) who doesn't know what to do. That's why I posted suggesting that you go to the vet. If you don't want to be seen as a troll, well, that's going to take time, because as I mentioned, your posting style makes you sound troll-ish. Also, many people have trolled this newsgroup by asking questions about horrific situations whose obvious answer would be "Go to the vet NOW!" Often they were just trying to stir everyone up. That's what trolls do. By the way, this is not a group for advice. If you thought that, you thought wrong. Advice does come up, but as the name suggests, this is a place for *anecdotes*. Stories about our cats. Funny things they do, that kind of thing. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >Hello everyone, >I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >conditioner is, (he prefers it) Is it possible he has suffer a stroke or >something? Has anyone else's kitty ever done this? first off to everybody i am a friend to mzblackcat and i can reassure you she is not a insensitive person for not bringing her cat to the vet right away. she is a very loving person that would do anything possible but for some of us money is a issue right now also to whoever thinks that the way you right is important that is so childish arent we here for the pure reason about our cats? its not right that she got attacked when she was so upset about her cat so you all need a heart the ones that were rude. how dare you call her a troll who the heck are you to say anything you dont know all the facts? i mean cmon you saw her question it doesnt look like someone mean wrote it. also i bet that most of you are younger then she is ok so next time have a heart ( i am not talking to the ones that didnt be rude to her)but you know who you are! i am not going to put up with someone attacking my friend who ive known for 2 years now she loves her cats very much as do i so next time think before you speak and get all the facts first! > >Hello everyone, > >I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with his [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > now she loves her cats very much as do i so next time think before you speak > and get all the facts first! I'm not really interested in all the brouha surrounding but I *am* concerned about this cat. Your "friend" posted in another group that she spoke with her vet, and was advised that the cat had had a stroke, but since it was eating & drinking fine, it would be alright to wait until Monday morning. That's just wrong. No vet should diagnose a stroke over the phone, and certainly no vet should advise waiting over two days to treat the cat. It doesn't even sound like a stroke to me, and I'm no vet. But I had a cat who had a stroke, and it was *nothing* like that. It sounds more like an injury. So did your "friend" go to the "ER vet? Sherry > first off to everybody > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > do i so next time think before you speak and get all the facts > first! Okay, now I definitely think it's a troll, plus one sock puppet. Chances of a never-seen-before poster appearing in an online community to defend another never-seen-before poster with identical, um, writing style in this way ... practically zero. I have to wonder, back in the days before electronic communication, would a teenager write a letter like this? It's hard to imagine. It's really not so much the grammar or the spelling as it is the complete lack of "pause" punctuation that gets me. Why have we abandoned the comma? Has it gotten so expensive that no one can afford it? Without changing the wording, I think I can still make the above *much* clearer just by adding punctuation: > first off, to everybody: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > do i, so next time think before you speak and get all the facts > first! To you, Ms. Walking Queen: Yes, the way you write is important. It's not that you have to have perfect grammar and spelling -- plenty of people here don't. (In fact, I'd hazard a bet that no one gets it right all the time. No one.) But if you can't exhibit at least a certain minimum level of fluency, it's just too hard to read what you've written. Typically, if you haven't put in the effort to make your post readable, it's probably not worth reading. If you didn't think it was important enough to make it look good, why should we think it's important enough to take seriously? There are an awful lot of regular posters on this newsgroup. Almost all of us post in something very close to proper grammar, and I'm pretty sure most of us aren't English majors! It can be done; you just have to, oh, I dunno, *try*. To forestall some comments: I've read enough posts by people from around the world to believe that this was *not* a post from someone to whom English is a second language. Most people who don't speak English natively write much better than this. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca <sni> > Okay, now I definitely think it's a troll, plus one sock puppet. > > Chances of a never-seen-before poster appearing in an online community > to defend another never-seen-before poster with identical, um, writing > style in this way ... practically zero. <snip> Did you notice the post you replied to had the same ID as the original poster? Almost proving it's a troll. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > Did you notice the post you replied to had the same ID as the > original poster? Almost proving it's a troll. Nah, didn't take a close look. Wasn't there someone posting a while ago who used the same IP but later said they were emailing from the same house or something? People tell the strangest stories =) Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > <sni> > > Okay, now I definitely think it's a troll, plus one sock puppet. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Don't all the people who post via catKB have the same ID? That's what I was thinking from the last time. Sherry >> <sni> >>> Okay, now I definitely think it's a troll, plus one sock puppet. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sherry Similar, but not the same. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk I'm very intrigued, and very naive in matters of electronic communication. How do you tell the ID of a person? All I'm getting that points to "1+1=1" is the grammar. Blessed be, Baha > <sni> > > Okay, now I definitely think it's a troll, plus one sock puppet. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cats leave pawprints on your heart. > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Do you use outlook express or a newsreader of the internet Baha If you are using outlook express right click on the message click on properties and click on details this is what I see when I do it for you Path: news-wrt-01.tampabay.rr.com!be1.texas.rr.com!cyclone.austin.rr.com!news.rr.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!xs4all!news2.euro.net!feeder1.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!sn-xt-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-08!sn-ams!sn-feed-ams-03!sn-post-ams-01!sn-post-sjc-02!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Singh <bahadur@localnet.com> ********* this is your id ********* Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Subject: Re: Please help Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:56:09 -0700 Organization: Order of the Wing, Buffalo Chapter Message-ID: <44D82778.CE75B943@localnet.com> ******** this is message id attached to your post ****** X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <645278486dac9@uwe> <64651830a841f@uwe> <slrneddjg6.nac.spam@home.bounceswoosh.org> <DOidndI3W7Mgm0rZnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@brightview.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 25 Xref: news-wrt-01.tampabay.rr.com rec.pets.cats.anecdotes:449791 > I'm very intrigued, and very naive in matters of electronic communication. > How do you tell the ID of a person? All I'm getting that points to "1+1=1" [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart. >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Good Lord! How do Texas and Tampa Bay come into all this? My ISP's in Buffalo, just a small outfit. I use Netscape for news. I'm trying to figure out how to get the newsgroups on a Mac. When I use the Apple, I have to go to CatKB (which I also use when I can snatch a moment at work.) Can you believe that I have called the Apple techie guys, the Localnet guys, and gone to the Apple Store where we got the Mac, and none of those yutzes knew what "Usenet"means? Blessed be, Baha > Do you use outlook express or a newsreader of the internet Baha > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart. > >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Te Texas part and Tampa part come into play from my side since I retrieved your post Texas is a main host for road runner Tampa is the closest server to me . If you follow the line back you can see where your post started from and where it sort to say ended up. Unless you know tekkie ( me just a little ) it looks like a bunch of mixed up junk It shows you are from buffalo Organization: Order of the Wing, Buffalo Chapter > Good Lord! How do Texas and Tampa Bay come into all this? My ISP's in > Buffalo, just a small outfit. I use Netscape for news. I'm trying to [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart. >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk The Order of the Wing thing is a spoof. At the time I got my account set up, I'd been doing some reading about lodges and fraternities, and Louie and I hosted some out-of-town buddies who HAD to get a wing fix, and NOW. Wings are what Buffalo is famous for; the full name of the lodge is Order of the Wing, Suicidal, Extra Blue Cheese with a pitcher of Loganberry. I think that's the only thing that identifies me as a Buffalo Gal, though! :-) Blessed be, Baha > Te Texas part and Tampa part come into play from my side since I retrieved > your post Texas is a main host for road runner Tampa is the closest [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart. > >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk There is other tracking parts to your message but they involved copy paste into a ISP and header search program. If I try and explain it I would be totally out of my element. I barely under stand it my self. I leave it to the 15 years olds to programs it for me ;-) > The Order of the Wing thing is a spoof. At the time I got my account set > up, I'd been doing some reading about lodges and fraternities, and Louie [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >> >> >> Cats leave pawprints on your heart. >> >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > I'm very intrigued, and very naive in matters of electronic communication. > How do you tell the ID of a person? All I'm getting that points to "1+1=1" > is the grammar. Well, with Netscape, you click on "View" at the top of your screen, click "Headers" on the drop-down menu, and select "All". That gives you a sort of "map" of where the post originated. > Blessed be, > Baha [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>Cats leave pawprints on your heart. >>http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>Hello everyone, >>I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > speak > and get all the facts first! I replied to mzblackcat because I would much rather err by giving advice to someone who is realy a troll than to err by withholding advice from someone who might really have a cat in need of care. In other words, better to let the troll have his/her fun than to take a chance that a cat (and the person writing) will suffer the consequences if we are wrong. However, the irony of walkingqueen98's" attempt to come to the aid of her friend is that it simply reinforces my suspicion that this is probably a troll. The style of writing is identical, the messages were sent from the same source, and both seem to be writing to this group for the first time. MaryL > >>Hello everyone, > >>I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around with [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > MaryL Maybe I'm just guillible, but I found out the symptoms describe *exactly* a cat with kidney disease who has critically low potassium. It makes me wonder if this poster is not a troll in the real sense, but somebody who thinks they have to embellish the story when the truth is, they've got a sick cat and don't have the means to see a vet. Then the other side of me thinks it's Holly, from the writing style and general MO. 1. The phrase "pass" instead of "past"--Holly. 2. The phrase "Has anyone else had this happen to your cat" --Holly. 3. First posted this "problem" in alt.cats -- Holly. 3. Creates "friend" and tries to disguise writing style -- Holly and her "husband". 4. Posts from catkb -- Holly. If it's "Holly," and she's just jacking with us again to get attention -- shame on her. If it really is somebody with a sick cat, shame on me. At any rate, shame on Ms. Brain Tumor herself, wherever she is, for creating the sense of mistrust that she did by duping us all like that. Sherry >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> I have a question. My 10yr kitty is all of a sudden walking around [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > for creating the sense of mistrust that she did by duping us all like > that. Plenty of good advice about what to do about the cat has been offered. If it's a genuine poster this will be enough for them to seek the help that it needed. Myself, my gut feeling is that it is Ms Brain Tumour again. First we have Munchausen's Syndrome (I am very sick) and now we have Munchausen's Syndrome by proxy (my child is sick, my pet is sick.) It's a mental illness. I have come across it several times through my work. In MSBP the parent will often deliberately cause their child's illness by administering inappropriate substances so they can be admitted to hospital. The latest case we had, a two year old had to have a colostomy due to what her mother was doing to her. She was removed from her care, placed with an uncle and is now doing well. She is now 4 and her colostomy has been reversed. She's doing just great. My hope is that some cure can be found for Munchausens. I doubt it. Tweed > Myself, my gut feeling is that it is Ms Brain Tumour again. First we have > Munchausen's Syndrome (I am very sick) and now we have Munchausen's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The latest case we had, a two year old had to have a colostomy due to what > her mother was doing to her. Horrible. I was friends with a woman for a while (we met in a chorus) whose mother used her in that way when she was a child. She is quite messed up emotionally. In fact, she does things that alienate her friends, such as borrowing huge amounts of money and not paying it back, which is why I am no longer friends with her. Still, I really felt for her when she would tell me how her mother tied her up, drugged her, and poisoned her to make her sick. <<<shudder>>> Very creepy. The idea that someone would do that to their pet is too upsetting to even contemplate. > She was removed from her care, placed with an uncle and is now doing well. > She is now 4 and her colostomy has been reversed. She's doing just great. I'm so glad to hear this. Most are not so lucky. > My hope is that some cure can be found for Munchausens. I doubt it. I prefer to think that anyone can have hope, if they want to get better and they really work at it. I'm sure some people will say I'm overly idealistic, but considering how long and how hard I've worked on my own emotional stuff, and how difficult it is to change and overcome these things, I can easily fall into despair about it. If I had to accept the idea that I'm just stuck this way and there's no hope for improvement, I don't think my life would be worth living. Now if someone isn't willing to do anything about their destructive patterns, then I might accept that there isn't much hope for them, unless they change their mind and decide to get help. You certainly can't force someone to change against their will. Joyce > In MSBP the parent will often deliberately cause their child's > illness by administering inappropriate substances so they can be > admitted to hospital. When I first heard the term as related to pets, I was so afraid that my vet or the techs would think of me in those terms -- I am one of those that take my cats to the vet often. I think I'm just cursed with having cats with health problems, or even just something that seems too uncomfortable for them to have to "live with". I won't let mine be denied comfort even from an itch that they can't get rid of. I know many people who don't take pets to the vet for itching. The latest case we had, a two year old had > to have a colostomy due to what her mother was doing to her. That is just horrible. I'm so glad she was taken out of that household. SignatureCheryl "walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> You just made it worse for your *friend* >"walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> > >You just made it worse for your *friend* first off this never would have happened if you all wouldnt have assumed she was as you call it a troll second you say that she doesnt care what is your problem? for one all she wanted was some advice on how to help her cat. this sounds so juvinelle i mean we are all supposed to be adults here i dont know of this girl you all keep talking about but i can reassure you mzblack cat is not the one if you cant deal with that then thats your loss but im not gonna put up with this crap and if sticking up for your friend is wrong then you have a problem but excuse me if i was pissed that my friend was being accused of being someone she wasnt and didnt have the time to use a comma as you put it, you know get over it already and next time dont judge someone until you know them first i cant believe people that supposedly care for their pets so much wont help somone that just needed help with her cat. > >"walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > Message posted via http://www.catkb.com Yes, well, this *is* Monday and your "friend" *did* say she was going to the vet. What was the diagnosis? Sherry >> >"walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Sherry yes she has gone to the vet if you must know and it was a stroke i hope you all feel better for making her feel so bad she doesnt want to come back to this forum i dont blame her with the people in here recently being so insensitive who would? > >> >"walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> > >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > this forum i dont blame her with the people in here recently being so > insensitive who would? Then what is the prognosis for the kitty? Did the vet mention anything about taurine, or aspirin? Strokes are very unusual in a cat; much rarer than in humans, but it does happen. We found our cat behind the toilet unable to move. He recovered fully and lived another 5 years. The only lasting effect was that for the rest of his life, he drug his tail. Sherry >>>>"walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > this forum i dont blame her with the people in here recently being so > insensitive who would? So "Holly" is deserting us again? Hurrah! Then don't ever come back again If you Don't like it Welcome to the internet We have rights to our opinions if you don't like it TOO BAD Welcome to the real world little one time to grow up I gave advice and helpful hints so don't include me in this. But all you have done is just confirm those who believe she and you are trolls. You are making it worse I noticed you did not go to the other groups that she posted in and had regulars do the same thing. Just here why is that You are making it to easy to believe too many factors are swaying against you >>"walkingqueen98" <u24972@uwe> >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > you > know them first i cant believe people that supposedly care for their pets so > much wont help somone that just needed help with her cat. Quite a few of us did so what is your point > i am a friend to mzblackcat and i can reassure you she is not a insensitive > person for not bringing her cat to the vet right away. she is a very loving [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > now she loves her cats very much as do i so next time think before you speak > and get all the facts first! Hmmmm.... maybe the "troll" designation was right, after all! Anyone else notice how closely the "styles" of the two posters resemble one another? (Even to the lousy grammar and lack of capital letters?) |
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