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Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Aug 2006 19:43 GMT
I've been spending quality time with my dad.  His flight arrived last
Thursday at 2:30pm, and left this morning (Weds) at 6:30am *groan*.

In that short time, we managed 4 hikes and one day exploring a
historic town, so one event per full day.  My dad is from flatland (9'
above sea level) ... I took him up to 9.5K' the first day, 11.2K' the
second day ... he did great!

We have lots of pics, but I don't want to post these on the newsgroup,
so if you're interested, please let me know.

Dad and I were on good behavior through until the drive to the airport
this morning.  It still wasn't too bad, but he did ask me, "Well,
wouldn't *you* feel better if you lost weight?"  I told him that it's
not a health issue, so I'd like to know why it's so important to them;
I feel like they must be ashamed of me somehow, or they wouldn't care.
He denied that but couldn't explain why it mattered to him.  I also
told him, the more they bring up the weight thing, the less likely I
am to change, because I resent their pushing.  He said, "You know,
rebellion only hurts you."  I told him rebellion isn't something you
choose to wear in the morning like a shirt.  It's not that easy.

Beh.  But anyway, other than that one little bit, we had a wonderful
time, saw beautiful vistas, enjoyed mountain lakes, and generally
exhausted ourselves every day.  We had plenty of time to talk about
life, the universe, and everything on our hikes (well, mostly on the
downhill *grin).

The first day, we hiked to Lost Lake in the Indian Peaks, Hessie
trailhead.  Second day, Blue Lake in the Indian Peaks, from Brainard
Lake.  Third day, we drove up I-70 and wandered around Idaho Springs,
an old mining town that still has some neat architecture.  Fourth day,
we hiked to the top of Green Mountain in Boulder, although we did so
from a trailhead at the top of Flagstaff Rd (it's a pretty tough hike
anyway; I don't think dad would have appreciated hiking it from the
bottom, Gregory Canyon trailhead or Chataqua).  And on the fifth day,
we hiked Rawhide Loop at White Ranch, which turned out to be the
easiest hike so far.  Eric was able to join us for that one.

As for Oscar ... she has been doing great, but the last couple of days
she has been at her paw again.  I can also see that the pad hasn't
fully healed.  And she is developing a lip ulcer again.  So we have an
appt at TED tomorrow ... my first opportunity to try the Sherpa bag.
In the meantime, she gets to wear the Collar Of Doom again.  She
deeply resents this, but it doesn't stop her from scarfing down the
dry food (much less messy with the collar).

I have taken off vacation through the end of the week anyway, and I
hope it will be relaxing =)

Going to try to catch up with the group, but it will take a while.
Purrs and well-wishes to all.

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polonca12000@yahoo.com - 02 Aug 2006 21:16 GMT
> I've been spending quality time with my dad.  His flight arrived last
> Thursday at 2:30pm, and left this morning (Weds) at 6:30am *groan*.
<snip>
> As for Oscar ... she has been doing great, but the last couple of days
> she has been at her paw again.  I can also see that the pad hasn't
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> --
> monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

Welcome back, Monique!
Lots of purrs and best wishes for Oscar's TED appointment,
Polonca and Soncek
Takayuki - 03 Aug 2006 02:05 GMT
>I've been spending quality time with my dad.  His flight arrived last
>Thursday at 2:30pm, and left this morning (Weds) at 6:30am *groan*.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>above sea level) ... I took him up to 9.5K' the first day, 11.2K' the
>second day ... he did great!

Welcome back.  The hikes sound wonderful!  I've lived at sea level all
my life, but when I've been at significant elevations, I found that I
really loved the feeling of just being there and breathing.  The rush
and pump of air in my lungs.  Down where the air is thick, I feel like
I'm not even really breathing, just sitting around passively osmosing
oxygen.

Purrs that Oscar won't be needing the E-collar again.
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Aug 2006 03:11 GMT
> Welcome back.  The hikes sound wonderful!  I've lived at sea level
> all my life, but when I've been at significant elevations, I found
> that I really loved the feeling of just being there and breathing.
> The rush and pump of air in my lungs.  Down where the air is thick,
> I feel like I'm not even really breathing, just sitting around
> passively osmosing oxygen.

Haha!  Well, we were definitely very aware of our breathing at
altitude.  No doubt about it.

> Purrs that Oscar won't be needing the E-collar again.

Too late for that -- she's in it now.  Actually, now that I have the
right collar for her and I've done it a bunch of times, it's not so
bad, although she mopes around a lot and doesn't do anything active
with it on.  I just can't run the risk of her hurting herself like she
did before.

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badwilson - 03 Aug 2006 02:17 GMT
Glad you're back Monique and that you had a nice time with your dad.
I'd love to see some pics.
Sorry about him mentioning the weight issue right at the end.  I don't
understand why parents must do this.  My mom inevitably picks a fight
with me right before the end of a visit too.  Of course now that I'm
incommunicado with my folks, I won't have to worry about any fights for
a while ;-)
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> I've been spending quality time with my dad.  His flight arrived last
> Thursday at 2:30pm, and left this morning (Weds) at 6:30am *groan*.
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> Going to try to catch up with the group, but it will take a while.
> Purrs and well-wishes to all.
Jo Firey - 03 Aug 2006 02:44 GMT
> Glad you're back Monique and that you had a nice time with your dad. I'd
> love to see some pics.
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> incommunicado with my folks, I won't have to worry about any fights for a
> while ;-)
If you want to drive them crazy and feel superior at the same time, don't
quit emailing them.  Just don't mention the house plans and don't reply to
any attempts to get a reaction out of you.

It is one of the true joys of email.  It works in person too, but is a lot
harder to do.

Jo
badwilson - 03 Aug 2006 03:29 GMT
>> Glad you're back Monique and that you had a nice time with your dad.
>> I'd love to see some pics.
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> It is one of the true joys of email.  It works in person too, but is
> a lot harder to do.

Dennis and I have actually discussed maybe just telling them that they
have completely scared us off of building a house.  We'd say that we
have decided to just sit on the land until the price goes up some more,
then just sell it and keep renting indefinitely.
Then, we would just go ahead and build our house without saying anything
to them.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Aug 2006 03:37 GMT
> Dennis and I have actually discussed maybe just telling them that they
> have completely scared us off of building a house.  We'd say that we
> have decided to just sit on the land until the price goes up some more,
> then just sell it and keep renting indefinitely.
> Then, we would just go ahead and build our house without saying anything
> to them.

Would they approve of your choosing not to build, and renting instead?
Because if they're going to give you flak for that, too, then no point
in making up a story. Or, make one up that'll feed their egos, make them
happy, etc.

I guess this is one of the benefits of living on the other side of the
world! :)

Joyce
badwilson - 03 Aug 2006 03:46 GMT
>> Dennis and I have actually discussed maybe just telling them that
>> they have completely scared us off of building a house.  We'd say
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> in making up a story. Or, make one up that'll feed their egos, make
> them happy, etc.

No, they would freak if we just kept renting.  They would also freak if
we just bought an already built house.  The only acceptable option is to
build the house they want us to build.  Which, I think, would be a
reasonable expectation if they were paying for it.  But they are not.
Not one bit.  In fact, they are benefitting greatly by having us away
since they have our big screen TV, stereo, mig welder and all my stained
glass equipment, which they are all using regularly.

> I guess this is one of the benefits of living on the other side of the
> world! :)

Yes, well I thought so but they still seem to infiltrate our lives to a
much greater extent than what is comfortable.  Of course Dennis is
right.  I volunteer much too much info.  This will stop now.
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jmcquown - 03 Aug 2006 06:30 GMT
>>> Dennis and I have actually discussed maybe just telling them that
>>> they have completely scared us off of building a house.  We'd say
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> a much greater extent than what is comfortable.  Of course Dennis is
> right.  I volunteer much too much info.  This will stop now.

I'm in the same boat to an extent.  If I don't mention all the resumes I
send out and places where I apply for work, I'm accused of not looking for a
job.  If I mention something, my father goes off the deep end and demands to
know why I haven't gotten the [whatever] job yet.  It's a lose-lose
situation so I'm going back to absolutely not discussing it one way or the
other.

Jill
Tish - 03 Aug 2006 09:13 GMT
>Dennis and I have actually discussed maybe just telling them that they
>have completely scared us off of building a house.  We'd say that we
>have decided to just sit on the land until the price goes up some more,
>then just sell it and keep renting indefinitely.
>Then, we would just go ahead and build our house without saying anything
>to them.

For some reason this has reminded me of a kind-of funny (in a wierd
way) situation that a cousin-in-law got herself into.  She has a
difficult relationship with her very authoritarian, conventional
parents and, at some stage early in her marriage stopped talking to
them.  It started off simply enough, but degraded to the stage where
she even decided not to tell them that she was pregnant.  Fair enough,
but now her son is going on for two years old and, as far as I know,
his maternal grandparents still don't know that he exists.  Luckily,
his paternal grandparents know of his existance and spoil him rotten
(as it should be for grandkids).  Presumably the maternal grandparents
will, eventually, find out about their grandson's existance (and his
soon-to-be-born sibling). I maintain hope that the rift in that little
family can be healed.
Tish
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Aug 2006 03:50 GMT
> Glad you're back Monique and that you had a nice time with your dad.
> I'd love to see some pics.  Sorry about him mentioning the weight
> issue right at the end.  I don't understand why parents must do
> this.  My mom inevitably picks a fight with me right before the end
> of a visit too.  Of course now that I'm incommunicado with my folks,
> I won't have to worry about any fights for a while ;-)

I emailed you the pics.  Let me know if you don't get them.

Well, it was a fairly minor blip at the tail end of the visit, and we
*did* both get up before 4am, so I guess I can understand us both
being a bit prickly and/or unable to keep our thoughts to ourselves.

He clearly didn't mean to do anything like this, because he started
out the visit telling me how good I look!

Anyway, I am happy for the good parts of the trip (almost all of it)
and simply need to remind myself that, just like me, dad isn't
perfect.

I'm sorry about the relationship with your folks.  I understand about
hoping that somehow they have improved, taking that risk, and finding
that they haven't.  Although my parents have never cut me off like
that or threatened anything nasty.  It must be very difficult, no
matter what your intentions.

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badwilson - 03 Aug 2006 04:09 GMT
>> Glad you're back Monique and that you had a nice time with your dad.
>> I'd love to see some pics.  Sorry about him mentioning the weight
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> that or threatened anything nasty.  It must be very difficult, no
> matter what your intentions.

Thanks, I did get the pics.  I'm still looking (wow, there are quite a
few, aren't there???).  Looks incredibly beautiful.  Makes me miss the
mountains a bit actually.
Anyway, by looking at you I have to shake my head at what your family is
on about regarding your weight.  It's not like you have a ton of weight
to lose anyway.  And you're fit and active.  At least you can *get* up
those mountains!  Sheesh!
Sometimes I think that humans haven't evolved that much from the
animals.  We sniff out each others weaknesses and insecurities, then
hone in on them to bring the other person down.  So sad :-(
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Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Aug 2006 04:30 GMT
> Thanks, I did get the pics.  I'm still looking (wow, there are quite a
> few, aren't there???).  Looks incredibly beautiful.  Makes me miss the
> mountains a bit actually.

Yes, sorry -- there wasn't much in the way of filtering.  I just took
a bunch and threw them up there.  I have a vague idea that I will
create an additional section of "favorites" at some point, so that
visitors don't need to wade through all the pictures!

> Anyway, by looking at you I have to shake my head at what your family is
> on about regarding your weight.  It's not like you have a ton of weight
> to lose anyway.  And you're fit and active.  At least you can *get* up
> those mountains!  Sheesh!

My rational side agrees with you whole-heartedly =)  And I'm sure you
noticed my father's, er, not-exactly-slenderness.  It's baffling.  Of
course, I know better than to point out the hypocrisy, as he will
simply say something like, "Yes, but I'm an old man!  You're still
young!"

You know, it's even more baffling because at some point during this
trip, he said something about how he knows that he could slim down if
he gave up his beer, but that it's not worth it to him.  Funny how
it's somehow different for me (not that I drink beer, but you know
what I mean).

Ah well.  I'm not going to change them.  And honestly, my dad was *so*
good throughout the visit.  Just this one little slip at the end.  I
would obviously have preferred that the visit go off without a hitch,
but in the annals of our family history, the little blip was
incredibly minor.  We had such a great time for 99% of the visit =)

> Sometimes I think that humans haven't evolved that much from the
> animals.  We sniff out each others weaknesses and insecurities, then
> hone in on them to bring the other person down.  So sad :-(

It does make you wonder, doesn't it?

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