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Kreisleriana - 31 Jul 2006 14:15 GMT
Hi guys, I just got back from a few (hot) days in the DC area, so I
first want to send purrs out to all the masters and slaves and others
who need them.

My train (which *originated* in DC, BTW) was TWO HOURS late.  It was
just incredible. No explanation, just the time of the train's arrival
getting pushed back in five and ten minute increments, over the course
of two hours.  If it were an airline, at least they would eventually
come to you and offer you options.  Do you want to see if you can get
on another flight?  They would offer you at least partial
compensation.  They sometimes even offer you a future trip-- this
happened to my father.  But Amtrak, you're just stuck there, waiting
for the same damn train for two hours, and once you finally get going,
the train just loses more and more time as you go.  So finally, you're
not just two hours late, but more like four or five hours late.  Man,
was I crabby when I got home.

Theresa
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MaryL - 31 Jul 2006 14:25 GMT
> Hi guys, I just got back from a few (hot) days in the DC area, so I
> first want to send purrs out to all the masters and slaves and others
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> compensation.  They sometimes even offer you a future trip-- this
> happened to my father.
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> Theresa
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Don't count on it with the airlines, either.  There are specific standards,
and they *often* will not offer anything.  I once sat in the waiting area
beside a mother with two young (and very active) children.  Here plane had
been "delayed" 15 minutes at a time for more than 3 hours.  She was afraid
to leave and try to get some food because they only gave 15 minute intervals
with each delay, and she was struggling with carry-on luggage and two small
children.  I watched her luggage for her while she took a restroom stop.
She was still sitting there -- still getting 15 minutes-delay messages --  
when I left.

MaryL
Jo Firey - 31 Jul 2006 15:54 GMT
>> Hi guys, I just got back from a few (hot) days in the DC area, so I
>> first want to send purrs out to all the masters and slaves and others
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>
> MaryL

The one time my plane did get delayed enough for them to offer something,
all they came through with were food vouchers for the cafeteria.  I think
they were for eight or ten bucks.  Its been ten or twelve years ago.  At any
rate at the time you could not actually get a meal and a drink in the
cafeteria in the Dallas/Ft Worth terminal for the paltry amount they gave
us.  And it isn't like we were going to get fed once we were on the plane
either.

Not so bad for those of us who could afford to fly on our own dime.  Pretty
rough on kids and servicemen and young families who were barely scraping by
and who's families or employers had probably bought their tickets but not a
pocket full of spending money.

About half of us ended up supplementing the vouchers for the other half to
make sure they got fed.

I think we were delayed about 5 hours that time.

Jo
sriddles@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 15:04 GMT
> Hi guys, I just got back from a few (hot) days in the DC area, so I
> first want to send purrs out to all the masters and slaves and others
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> Theresa
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Heh. Look at the bright side. Some people don't even have a train. I
thought Amtrak was cool when we visited NYC, although I missed the
train back to Ronnkonkomen and got stuck in the city overnight.  What
an adventure THAT was. We have this one dinky train that doesn't
actually stop anywhere. It takes you to some creepy part of Ft. Worth.
I keep trying to get DH to ride it just for the experience of riding
through the countryside and looking in people's back yards.

Sherry
Winnie - 31 Jul 2006 15:45 GMT
> Heh. Look at the bright side. Some people don't even have a train. I
> thought Amtrak was cool when we visited NYC, although I missed the
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>
> Sherry

There is something about trains that attrace people. The seniors I work
with love taking
the 2 hour train ride to Montreal. They've been to Montreal by buses.
But they wanted to
experience riding on the train. Riding the local city transit's light
ride trains won't do. Personally I like riding the LRT much more than
the Via rail to Montreal, which in turn,  is better than taking the
Greyhound.

Winnie
Jo Firey - 31 Jul 2006 16:04 GMT
>> Hi guys, I just got back from a few (hot) days in the DC area, so I
>> first want to send purrs out to all the masters and slaves and others
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>
> Sherry

I ever get in your area, I'll go for a train ride with you.  I love trains.

Reminds me I want to take youngest grandson on the train from Sacramento to
Reno just for the ride one of these days soon.

I also like riding city busses and subways.  A carryover from childhood
entertainment I guess.  Daddy drove a taxi in Washington DC when I was a
baby.  Mom was very ill and almost died.  When he couldn't get someone to
watch me on his shift he would take me with him.  I wasn't old enough to
remember it, but I still find some taxi rides highly entertaining.  San
Francisco (and can you hurry?) beats most roller coasters.

Jo
sriddles@aol.com - 31 Jul 2006 19:58 GMT
> > Heh. Look at the bright side. Some people don't even have a train. I
> > thought Amtrak was cool when we visited NYC, although I missed the
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>
> Jo

It's a deal! DH would be happy to be off the hook. He thinks it's a
dumb idea, to ride a train just for the sake of riding a train and not
really going anywhere. Maybe it's the novelty of it. Public
transportation of any kind is rare here. The Heartland Flyer (that's
the name of the train)--they beg people to ride, and even have parties
and special events & incentives to ride. I'm afraid we're going to lose
it soon for lack of business. But the schedule is so unhandy, it's not
practical for people to use it. Metro Transit, our city bus, is the
same way.  Taxis are the only realistic way to get anywhere on time, or
if you just want to shop & don't like to drive in the city the tram is
kind of fun.
If I had a grandchild I think a train riide would be awesome. They'll
always remember it, and it would give you a great opportunity to talk.
Sherry
tanada - 03 Aug 2006 05:05 GMT
>> > Heh. Look at the bright side. Some people don't even have a train. I
>> > thought Amtrak was cool when we visited NYC, although I missed the
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> always remember it, and it would give you a great opportunity to talk.
> Sherry

Forget the  grandkids.  I love traveling by public transportation, in fact I
love traveling by private transportation.  After Rob and I were married, he
had to leave right away to report at Fort Campbell, Kentucky.  The two boys
and I held a yard sale to get rid of as much of our belongings as we could,
then used the money to Amtrak out to join him a month and a half later.  I
was so thrilled that I got to ride on "The City of New Orleans" to Fulton,
Kentucky.  If my travel agent and I new our stuff, the boys and I would have
gotten on in Cairo, but we didn't and thereby hangs a tale.  We had to go
through a lot of hoops and jumps but we finally got to Fort Campbell and
were installed in the guest room.  Other than getting from Fulton to Fort
Campbell, the trip was a blast.  I'm game to go again, though I don't want
to do it with an 18 month and five year old again.

Pam S.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 31 Jul 2006 17:42 GMT
> My train (which *originated* in DC, BTW) was TWO HOURS late.  It was
> just incredible. No explanation, just the time of the train's arrival
> getting pushed back in five and ten minute increments, over the course
> of two hours.

I think the worst thing is being given these little increments - that
must drive you insane after a while. It wouldn't be quite as bad if
they just said, "This train is going to be two hours late." I mean,
people would be very annoyed to start with, but at least then, you could
maybe go do something else, depending on where the train station is
located.

As many people have mentioned, this sort of thing does happen with
airlines all the time, and you frequently don't get anything for the
inconvenience they caused you.

I hope the actual visit was better than the getting to and from!

Joyce
jmcquown - 02 Aug 2006 10:26 GMT
>  > My train (which *originated* in DC, BTW) was TWO HOURS late.  It
>  was > just incredible. No explanation, just the time of the train's
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> could maybe go do something else, depending on where the train
> station is located.

Yep, or at least not be afraid to walk away to find something to eat if they
have food courts in the station.

> As many people have mentioned, this sort of thing does happen with
> airlines all the time, and you frequently don't get anything for the
> inconvenience they caused you.
>
> I hope the actual visit was better than the getting to and from!

I hope so, too!

I can only recall one airline flight being delayed in the last 2 years, and
I've been doing lots of plane travel.  I can't remember how long the delay
was, I think it was about 4 hours.  Luckily it was the last leg of my trip.
I didn't have to make a connecting flight so I didn't really care - I
understand *that* can be a real nightmare!

No, they didn't offer us anything.  I always make sure I have plenty of
snack crackers, cheese and things like that in my carry-on bag and a water
bottle which I refill at the water fountains.  I refuse to pay $2 (or more)
for a bottle of water.  And I generally take 3-4 paperbacks so I have
something to keep myself occupied.  Portable music players probably appeal
to some folks, too.

Jill
 
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