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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / August 2006139 deaths later, heat wave appears over
Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today topped out at 94f/34c A lot better than the 115f/46c we ran from last weekend There have bee 139 heat related deaths in California, so far http://tinyurl.com/jxls9 Two very sad and scary but typical heat related stories. A man who lives close to us and who we see out riding his bicycle, etc. died yesterday. He lived in a mobile home without air conditioning. He had been offered air conditioners and turned them down. The police had even explained emergency utility plans to his that would have cut the cost of operating a/c. And neighbors checked on him frequently. One had stopped by earlier in the day asking his to go some where and he said no, he didn't feel well. That he had a head ache and his stomache hurt. Else where in the valley, two brothers were found dead in their home. Neighbors had seen them out on the porch drinking their coffee that morning. The elderly are especially at risk. Their bodies don't handle the heat well. They often aren't willing to accept help. And they have been around the heat all their lives and believe they will be OK. Jo > Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today topped > out at 94f/34c > > A lot better than the 115f/46c we ran from last weekend > > There have bee 139 heat related deaths in California, so far There have been 100 gun related deaths in the Memphis area, many of them children. Give me heat any day. You can run a fan; you can't run from bullets in the hands of ignorant people. Jill >> Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today topped >> out at 94f/34c [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > There have been 100 gun related deaths in the Memphis area, many of them > children. In the last 10 days? > Give me heat any day. You can run a fan; you can't run from > bullets in the hands of ig norant people. > > Jill >>> Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today >>> topped out at 94f/34c [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > In the last 10 days? Six in the last ten days. >> Give me heat any day. You can run a fan; you can't run from >> bullets in the hands of ignorant people. >> >> Jill Again, you can run a FAN. Stay in out of the heat. Drink lots of water. > There have been 100 gun related deaths in the Memphis area, many of > them children. Give me heat any day. You can run a fan; you can't > run from bullets in the hands of ignorant people. Is it a competition? Does the fact that people died of guns in Memphis somehow lessen the pain of people dying of heat in California? Gun violence is terrible, and it sounds like Memphis has a real problem, as do many urban environments. Dying of heat is terrible, and California has a real problem, as do many areas of the world. There's plenty of pain to go around, no need to compete for it. Chak  SignatureEnglish is a brawling, promiscuous drunkard of a language made up of mispronounced and stolen words from other languages, and that's what makes it such a glory to speak. Usage pecksniffs who try to tell you that colorful, unambiguous, expressive turns of phrase or sentence structure are incorrect are the worst kind of bores. --Cory Doctorow, posted to BoingBoing.net Prove it. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:4ivvblF5oe4cU1@individual.net: > There have been 100 gun related deaths in the Memphis area, many of > them children. > Prove it. > > -- > > Christopher A. Young What, is your Google finger broken or something? No, I know where this is going and I hope Jill doesn't take the bait you're dangling. She *meant* violent crime, not gun-related specific crimes, obviously. Memphis *did* reach its 100th person to die of violent crime sometime in July. That in itself is horrendous enough, and what percentage was shot, strangled, or beaten to death is pure semantics for the gun freaks to sort out. Sherry >> Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today topped >> out at 94f/34c [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jill Jill, Are you all right? You just don't seem yourself lately. Belated birthday wishes to you btw. Julie >>> Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today >>> topped out at 94f/34c [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Julie No, I'm not all right. I am out of money, shunned by my family and I have nothing... so no, I'm not all right. Heat in California is the worst of my worries. Get a fan, freeze some water and put it in front of the fan I'm going to be on the street in September and who knows what will happen to Persia and my bird Peaches? No, I'm not all right. No one will hire me even for menial jobs.. I'm too old, I'm over qualified, I'm too something. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone but no I'm not alright. I'm too far gone to be all right. :( Jill >>>> Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today >>>> topped out at 94f/34c [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Jill {{{{{{{{{{{{Jill}}}}}}}}}}}} SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > I'm going to be on the street in September and who knows what will happen > to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone but no I'm not alright. I'm too far > gone to be all right. :( Offer of accommodation at my house is still open. However since I have rethunk my plans for the house, the large bedroom is no longer available, you would have to use the smaller one. But it's far better than the street, and it stays pretty cool in there if the door is kept shut. >> I'm going to be on the street in September and who knows what will >> happen to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > than the street, and it stays pretty cool in there if the door is > kept shut. I cannot move. It would cost me $$$ to break my lease and I cannot live without A/C. But thanks for the offer. I'll figure something out. Jill & Persia and Peaches >>> I'm going to be on the street in September and who knows what will >>> happen to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >I cannot move. It would cost me $$$ to break my lease and I cannot live >without A/C. But thanks for the offer. I'll figure something out. If you do end up having to move into somewhere without full-building air conditioning, whether with Pat or otherwise, small air conditioners intended to cool a single room sell for about $100.00. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > If you do end up having to move into somewhere without full-building > air conditioning, whether with Pat or otherwise, small air > conditioners intended to cool a single room sell for about $100.00. That's what I have. My little home office (computer room) is very small, and luckily, it has a pull-up style window. Every window in the house is different - some swing out to open, some you crank open. But the one room that I most wanted to cool off, which is the room I do work in, is able accomodate a small window a/c. Since I live in an area that doesn't get hot that often, I hardly ever use the a/c, so I don't even have it properly installed. I just keep it on a small table right under the window, and when it gets unbearably hot (so that a fan blowing on me provides no relief), I just open the window, lift up the a/c and slide it in place, open the accordion-like side slats, and then stuff towels into the gaps. I know that's not the most energy- efficient way to air-condition a room, but since I don't do this very often (there have been several years where I never used it at all), I don't mind. Most of the time I have the window open with a screen in it, and if I had the a/c installed correctly, I'd never be able to do that. The towel method still works! :) It takes about 5 minutes to cool off the room, and then I can hang out in here with my computer, and any cat with a bit of sense in his or her head! Joyce > I cannot move. It would cost me $$$ to break my lease and I cannot live > without A/C. But thanks for the offer. I'll figure something out. > > Jill & Persia and Peaches Purrs for you Jill. The best I have to offer is the "blues thread," and more purrs. --Fil >>> I'm going to be on the street in September and who knows what will >>> happen to [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I cannot move. It would cost me $$$ to break my lease and I cannot live > without A/C. But thanks for the offer. I'll figure something out. You were talking about September and so was I.... It will be cooler by then, and next year I will get an air conditioning unit. >>>> I'm going to be on the street in September and who knows what will >>>> happen to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > You were talking about September and so was I.... It will be cooler > by then, and next year I will get an air conditioning unit. I'll be paid in September for a job for two weeks with John... in fact will be gone half the month so I may be able to stay without being evicted. And I don't want to move to Missouri, but thanks. >Offer of accommodation at my house is still open. However since I have >rethunk my plans for the house, the large bedroom is no longer available, >you would have to use the smaller one. But it's far better than the street, >and it stays pretty cool in there if the door is kept shut. Even if it doesn't happen, what a generous offer! >No, I'm not all right. I am out of money, shunned by my family and I have >nothing... so no, I'm not all right. Heat in California is the worst of my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone but no I'm not alright. I'm too far >gone to be all right. :( I'm so sorry Jill! You've been stressed out about the direction of your live for so long. But you've been so happy too. I can understand. Remember that there's a limit to how much you can fall, with all the people who know you. > No, I'm not all right. I am out of money, shunned by my family and I have > nothing... so no, I'm not all right. Heat in California is the worst of my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jill We are purring and sending best wishes for a solution to be found and also we are sending lots of hugs for you, Jill, Polonca and Soncek > Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today topped out at > 94f/34c [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jo That is just dreadful. That's the saddest part of all, when you hear about folks who have A/C's but they are afraid to run them becasue of the cost. It is *shameful* that this happens in this country, where we have the resources to help people. I'm glad the heat wave has broken for you all. We had about 95 degrees today and even had a shower mid-afternoon. Funny how 95 can feel tolerable after having 100+ temps. Sherry >> Well it looks like we finally have a break in the heat. Today topped out >> at [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Sherry I was at the park tonight, and people were coming out to walk and play. Its been deserted all week. It was like seeing people come out after a storm. Everyone out connecting and talking to each other, kids on skateboards and bikes. Really nice to be out. Jo > I was at the park tonight, and people were coming out to walk and play. > Its been deserted all week. It was like seeing people come out after a > storm. Everyone out connecting and talking to each other, kids on > skateboards and bikes. Really nice to be out. I went for a bike ride this evening too. First time it's been less than deathly hot in a few weeks' time. I felt almost human again. > > I was at the park tonight, and people were coming out to walk and play. > > Its been deserted all week. It was like seeing people come out after a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I went for a bike ride this evening too. First time it's been less than > deathly hot in a few weeks' time. I felt almost human again. I was luckier than many, as my power never failed, and I hung around in my mom's swimming pool a lot over the weekend. And I wasn't in the hottest area of the state. But it was sufficiently unpleasant for everyone I know. I hate sticking to every chair I sit in, even while wearing my lightest clothing! But 85 degrees feels HEAVENLY after over 100 degree heat this weekend. Tonight, I cooked dinner for the first time in over a week. I felt like I had to remind myself how to cook! =o) All the same it was very nice to eat a hot dinner and still feel comfortable. Melissa > the cost. It is *shameful* that this happens in this country, where we > have the resources to help people. One of my Blockbuster DVDs was "Why We Fight". Try to see this movie. >> the cost. It is *shameful* that this happens in this country, where we >> have the resources to help people. > > One of my Blockbuster DVDs was "Why We Fight". Try to see this movie. a big part of the problem, many do not want to accept help. Especially from the government. And thinking you can ride out a hot spell is kind of like the people who will not evacuate for a hurricane. They've ridden them out before and don't want to end up in a badly run shelter. There has been a massive effort to make sure that all the nursing homes etc and keeping tabs on the heat and have an evacuation plan and use it. There are officers going room to room in SRO hotels and rooming houses to make sure everyone is ok. We have cooling centers up and running. They are taking the big show rooms at the fairgrounds and turning on the ac and bringing people in just for the day or for a few hours. Stringent rules are in place for anyone working out in the heat. Shelter has to be available. I expect we are going to lose the remainder of the peach crop. Hate to see it happen because the one big grower here have been friends for 35 years. But one lost crop won't ruin them. Their kids aren't college age yet. They should have had at least 2/3 of their varieties to the packers before this started. My daughters MIL works there as a sorter, and I kind of hope they haven't even been working. I do know if the work, they start before dawn so they are done before noon. Jo I'm in CA, too: it got to 115 where I live. I almost passed out from the heat one day -- I think I let myself get dehydrated. Here's an article about heat-related happenings at an outdoor concert at the Concord Pavilion. http://kcbs.com/pages/60079.php I'm sure glad I didn't go! Sandy > I'm in CA, too: it got to 115 where I live. I almost passed out from the > heat one day -- I think I let myself get dehydrated. Here's an article [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sandy I am glad to hear that the heat wave is easing up some. I think you always expect some heat related deaths in the summer, especially the elderly and infirm that just can't tolerate the heat but 139 is just so very sad! We've experienced extreme heat in the south as well (although not 115) and drought...I'd settle for a good, old fashioned rainy day rather than a short, heat induced thunderstorm. Sandy and Jo, take care and remember to drink water. The furry ones need lots of water as well during a heat wave. Sending cooling purrs your way and gentle headbutts to the families of all of those who have suffered losses during this time. Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus >> I'm in CA, too: it got to 115 where I live. I almost passed out from the >> heat one day -- I think I let myself get dehydrated. Here's an article [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Sandy and Jo, take care and remember to drink water. The furry ones need > lots of water as well during a heat wave. This is the dogs back yard water bowl http://tinyurl.com/hkpno Kayla just flops down and lays there and drinks. She is trying to teach Riley to lie down in the water too. > Sending cooling purrs your way and gentle headbutts to the families of all > of those who have suffered losses during this time. > Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus > I'm in CA, too: it got to 115 where I live. I almost passed out from the > heat one day -- I think I let myself get dehydrated. Here's an article > about heat-related happenings at an outdoor concert at the Concord Pavilion. > http://kcbs.com/pages/60079.php Oh, do you live in Concord, Sandy? I'm just on the other side of the Caldicott from you, in Oakland. The heat wave broke here earlier this week, and it's actually been cool. Not just "95 degrees feels so nice after 100+" (35-38C) as Jo said, but it was actually *cool*. The fog's been hanging around, even during the day (which is somewhat unusual - usually it's there in the morning, then it burns off, then it comes back in the evening). You can see it, draped over the mountains like a throw draped over the back of a couch. "... on little cat feet." :) Joyce > > I'm in CA, too: it got to 115 where I live. I almost passed out from > > the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce Hello, neighbor! :) Yes, I'm in Concord. I was very happy to have the heat wave end, too. I don't do that well in normal summer temperatures, so the last couple of weeks were miserable. Sandy > Hello, neighbor! :) Yes, I'm in Concord. I was very happy to have the > heat wave end, too. I don't do that well in normal summer temperatures, so > the last couple of weeks were miserable. You guys have heat waves every summer! :) Even when it's not a hemisphere- wide phenomenon. I really love the weather by the Bay - it did get pretty nasty last week, but right now it's actually overcast and very cool. I'm still happy with that! Joyce > Oh, do you live in Concord, Sandy? I'm just on the other side of the > Caldicott from you, in Oakland. The heat wave broke here earlier this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce I used to live in the Bay Area. Can't imagine 100+ there, especially when AC is not widely used. Here we sometimes reach 35C, but lots of places, including many buses have AC. At times I don't even want to get off an AC bus. I have to go to an outdoor wedding today. Hope it doesn't get too hot. Winnie > The elderly are especially at risk. Their bodies don't handle the heat > well. They often aren't willing to accept help. And they have been around > the heat all their lives and believe they will be OK. I know this is supposed to be true, but as I grow older, I find heat much less distressing than cold! (Of course, I DO have air-conditioning, most places I go, but I really don't find being outdoors in the heat all that unpleasant.) And even though the thermometer next to me right now is registering 78.2F, I'm about to turn off the ceiling fan, because I'm feeling chilled. >> The elderly are especially at risk. Their bodies don't handle the heat >> well. They often aren't willing to accept help. And they have been [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > registering 78.2F, I'm about to turn off the ceiling fan, because I'm > feeling chilled. That may even be part of the problem. I know we all started looking for any excuse to get a break from my mother's over heated apartment as she got older. But we are talking overheated as in 80F when we were dressed for 72F everywhere else indoors in the winter. The local gentleman had said more than once to neighbors that he liked the heat. But it is a whole other ball game when the ambient temperature goes above our normal body temperature. Our bodies just aren't as efficient at cooling as they are at heating. A 95F living room is uncomfortable. At 105+ it becomes lethal. Jo >>>The elderly are especially at risk. Their bodies don't handle the heat >>>well. They often aren't willing to accept help. And they have been [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > cooling as they are at heating. A 95F living room is uncomfortable. At > 105+ it becomes lethal. Maybe. A lot of people DO survive it, though - not all of them young and/or healthy. (Most of us older folk lived a good portion of our lives BEFORE air-conditioning became a necessity of life.) We've learned to avoid as much activity as possible when the temperatures are high (unlike the idiots I see jogging in the hot California sun at noon in Balboa Park, when it's about 110F in the shade). A comfortable chair, a good book or video, a pitcher of cool liquid (not alcoholic or carbonated), and a fan (especially beside a well-shaded window that opens) and survival with minimal discomfort is fairly assured. > A comfortable chair, a good book or video, a pitcher of cool > liquid (not alcoholic or carbonated), and a fan (especially > beside a well-shaded window that opens) and survival with > minimal discomfort is fairly assured. That sounds lovely!! Now, a question. I understsand why you shouldn't drink alcohol in the heat, but why not carbonated drinks? This isn't for my own sake, as I hardly ever drink sodas or even sparkling water, but I've never heard that carbonated drinks aren't recommended for keeping hydrated, so I'm curious. Joyce > > A comfortable chair, a good book or video, a pitcher of cool > > liquid (not alcoholic or carbonated), and a fan (especially [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >that carbonated drinks aren't recommended for keeping hydrated, so I'm >curious. I have heard that carbonated drinks aren't recommended, but never any discussion of _why_ they aren't recommended. Caffeine is a diuretic, so drinks such as colas would tend to dehydrate you further, but not all carbonated beverages contain caffeine. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > > A comfortable chair, a good book or video, a pitcher of cool > > liquid (not alcoholic or carbonated), and a fan (especially [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joyce I know you wouldn't want to drink anything that contains caffeine, as it is a diuretic. Don't know about other carbonated drinks. Just that nothing beats water for hydration. Jo >>>A comfortable chair, a good book or video, a pitcher of cool >>>liquid (not alcoholic or carbonated), and a fan (especially [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > a diuretic. Don't know about other carbonated drinks. Just that nothing > beats water for hydration. Iced herbal tea (like mint) is nice too - and unlike lemonade, doesn't require sweetening! Anything that puts your digestive system to work raises your internal temperature, too - that's why they advise "light" meals in hot weather. > > A comfortable chair, a good book or video, a pitcher of cool > > liquid (not alcoholic or carbonated), and a fan (especially [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that carbonated drinks aren't recommended for keeping hydrated, so I'm > curious. Avoiding carbonated drinks may only be a personal quirk - it's just that I've never found them as thirst-quenching as the non-carbonated sort. (And of course, alcohol - even "a nice cold beer" - doesn't REALLY quench your thirst.) > Avoiding carbonated drinks may only be a personal quirk - it's just that > I've never found them as thirst-quenching as the non-carbonated sort. I'm the exact opposite - I feel that ordinary water doesn't quench a thirst nearly as well as sparkling water. I drink litres and litres of that every day. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> Avoiding carbonated drinks may only be a personal quirk - it's just >> that I've never found them as thirst-quenching as the non-carbonated [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > thirst nearly as well as sparkling water. I drink litres and litres of > that every day. That's what we did in Thailand. Liters and liters of sparkling water with just a squeeze of lime. Very nice and much more fun to drink than regular boring water. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > That's what we did in Thailand. Liters and liters of sparkling water > with just a squeeze of lime. Very nice and much more fun to drink than > regular boring water. I should try that. I squeezed lemon juice on water, but haven't try lime juice. Limes are a lot cheaper than lemons these days. Winnie >> The elderly are especially at risk. Their bodies don't handle the heat >> well. They often aren't willing to accept help. And they have been [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > registering 78.2F, I'm about to turn off the ceiling fan, because I'm > feeling chilled. My mother was the same way. I suspect that was one factor in her decision to move from California to Alaska at age 80. Personally, I find that both extremes bother me, but I can find more ways to get warm if I'm cold than I can to get cool if I'm too warm. I actually like to be a little chilly when I go to bed, so I can enjoy warming up. Joy > >> The elderly are especially at risk. Their bodies don't handle the heat > >> well. They often aren't willing to accept help. And they have been [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joy I can deal with heat much better than cold, but when the house gets above 92 or so I cannot stand it. Indoor heat is awful; fans only blow hot air around. I am so glad that Ca. has gotten some relief from the heat. We have too. I still marvel when I remember taking road trips in a car with no air conditioner in the hot summer. I don't know how we stood it; but nobody at that time had an air conditioned car. I don't remember ever being uncomfortable. But I was a kid. Sherry > I can deal with heat much better than cold, but when the house gets > above 92 or so I cannot stand it. Indoor heat is awful; fans only blow [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > at that time had an air conditioned car. I don't remember ever being > uncomfortable. But I was a kid. I've always suspected that air conditioning interferes with adaptation to hot temperatures. Mind you, I don't really have much experience with hot temperatures (except for three years in Africa), but I remember encountering hot summers (by my rather northern standards) and widespread use of air conditioning. While it was sometimes an enormous relief to plunge into an air conditioned movie theatre or shopping mall, I generally found the constant switches from air conditioning to outside conditions as I went from place to place to be quite bothersome. I do generally prefer indoor temperatures others find too cold, and really dislike the sealed buildings in which you cannot open a window and which seem to have too little oxygen circulating, and in which you can find it too hot, or be unlucky enough to have a desk directly below an air vent, and freeze. SignatureCheryl > While it was sometimes an enormous relief to > plunge into an air conditioned movie theatre or shopping mall, I generally > found the constant switches from air conditioning to outside conditions > as I went from place to place to be quite bothersome. > I do generally prefer indoor temperatures others find too cold, and really > dislike the sealed buildings in which you cannot open a window and which > seem to have too little oxygen circulating, and in which you can find it > too hot, or be unlucky enough to have a desk directly below an air vent, > and freeze. As well as being bothersome, both of these things can make you sick. Going back and forth between a very hot outdoors and a very cold air- conditioned building has been known to bring on severe illness. And sealed buildings are really bad - you're basically recirculating the same germy air that everyone else is breathing, so colds and flu spread really well in those places. It's like flying - you know how people always end up catching things on planes? Same problem - recirculating air supply. Everyone breathes their germs out into it, and then they breathe each other's germs *in*. Yecch. Joyce > > While it was sometimes an enormous relief to > > plunge into an air conditioned movie theatre or shopping mall, I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > air supply. Everyone breathes their germs out into it, and then they > breathe each other's germs *in*. Yecch. I've always really felt bad for the kids that take the groceries from the store and put them in your car. In and out all day every day. Mid summer and mid winter, I amazed they aren't all out sick. Jo > I still marvel when I remember taking road trips in a car with no air > conditioner in the hot summer. I don't know how we stood it; but nobody > at that time had an air conditioned car. I don't remember ever being > uncomfortable. But I was a kid. I wasn't exactly a "kid" the summer my parents came to visit, and we went to Lion Country Safari (I think it's the San Diego Wild Animal Park, now). Because the animals were roaming free, visitors had to keep their car windows closed, and my Dad's car only had the rudimentary kind of "air-conditioning" that circulated outdoor air when the car was traveling at speed. Animals had the right of way, so we were held up for a while when a flock of ostriches chose to take their own sweet time crossing the road. (One of them took a liking to my mother, so stopped in front of the car and bent down that long neck to peer in the window and "flirt" with her.) You've heard the expression "drenched with sweat", but that's the first time we'd experienced it literally! (From the skin out, but even our outer garments were soaking wet, by the time we reached the exit and could open the windows again.) My folks were in their eighties by then, and they came through the experience even better than I did. IIRC, my house was not air-conditioned then, either. (It wasn't something you often found in rental property, but we survived - you don't miss what you've never had.) > I wasn't exactly a "kid" the summer my parents came to > visit, and we went to Lion Country Safari (I think it's the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > were soaking wet, by the time we reached the exit and could > open the windows again.) Yesterday I went to an outdoor wedding. It wasn't excessively hot. Still, sitting in the noon time sun gets pretty warm. I could see one guy's jacket was wet from sweat. Didn't know why he didn't take off his jacket like many did. I was glad I wore a wide brim hat and put on sun block. After the ceremony, the guests couldn't wait to get into a tent where refreshments were served. Winnie My folks were in their eighties by > then, and they came through the experience even better than > I did. IIRC, my house was not air-conditioned then, either. > (It wasn't something you often found in rental property, but > we survived - you don't miss what you've never had.) > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> I really don't find being outdoors in the heat all that >> unpleasant.) And even though the thermometer next to me right now is >> registering 78.2F, I'm about to turn off the ceiling fan, because I'm >> feeling chilled. > My mother was the same way. I suspect that was one factor in her decision > to move from California to Alaska at age 80. OK, this one I really don't understand. Your mother was easily chilled, so she decided to move from California to Alaska??? Yes, it is so much hotter in Alaska, she'll warm right up! :) Joyce > > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > so she decided to move from California to Alaska??? Yes, it is so much > hotter in Alaska, she'll warm right up! :) I didn't understand this either! Tweed > > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > so she decided to move from California to Alaska??? Yes, it is so much > hotter in Alaska, she'll warm right up! :) Actually, according to the niece who lives there, the summers in Alaska are worse than the upper Midwest - just as hot and even more humid, with mosquitos larger and more blood-thirsty than any in the "lower forty-eight"! (At least Southern California summers are drier - although it isn't nearly the "semi-desert" it was when I moved here in 1954.) > At least Southern California summers are drier - although it > isn't nearly the "semi-desert" it was when I moved here in > 1954.) Don't you live in or near LA? If so, then that area *is* a desert. Or, it was, until humans brought in irrigation and piped in water from sources far outside the area. I don't know about other parts of So. Cal, though, eg, Orange County. I've always had the impression that it's less of a desert in that area than in LA. Joyce > > At least Southern California summers are drier - although it > > isn't nearly the "semi-desert" it was when I moved here in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Joyce I don't know what Orange County was like before it was populated, but now it's wall to wall cities. I grew up in East Los Angeles, and whenever we visited Disneyland in the summer it was always hotter there than at home. Joy > > At least Southern California summers are drier - although it > > isn't nearly the "semi-desert" it was when I moved here in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Or, it was, until humans brought in irrigation and piped in water from > sources far outside the area. "Was" is the operative word! > I don't know about other parts of So. Cal, though, eg, Orange County. > I've always had the impression that it's less of a desert in that area > than in LA. I've always seen the Los Angeles Basin described as "semi-desert", but aside from that, Orange County and the rest of the inland valleys are pretty much ALL desert, IMO! (Just not as much so as the parts of California East of the foothills - Barstow, Palm Springs, etc.) > Joyce >> > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in >> message >> I really don't find being outdoors in the heat all that >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> so she decided to move from California to Alaska??? Yes, it is so much >> hotter in Alaska, she'll warm right up! :) Okay, that doesn't make any sense, does it? It was heat that was getting to her. She feels the cold more now, but she still loves Alaska. She always was comfortable at a lower temperature than I was. > Actually, according to the niece who lives there, the summers in Alaska > are worse than the upper Midwest - just as hot and even more humid, with > mosquitos larger and more blood-thirsty than any in the "lower > forty-eight"! (At least Southern California summers are drier - although > it isn't nearly the "semi-desert" it was when I moved here in 1954.) It depends on where in Alaska you go - it's a bit state. Fairbanks seems to be the nastiest. It can get as low as -60F in the winter and as high as +96F in the summer. In Valdez, where my mother lives, it seldom gets as hot as 80F or lower than +25 or 30F. However, 75F there feels more like 85F feels here. I have no idea why. It rains a lot in the summer. And the mosquitoes are bad enough to be called the "state bird", but where my mother lives, at least, they're only around for about one month a year. I'm not sure which month, because I've been there in April, June, July, August and September and have never encountered them. Joy >>> > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in >>> message >> I really don't find being outdoors in the heat all that >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Joy Valdez is right on the water and there is a warm pacific current that protects it from extremes most of the time. For more severe weather go inland about 20 miles. We camped there one August and woke to find snow on out tent and campsite. Also for mosquitoes. I'm guessing you missed the mosquitoes when you visited because of an offshore breeze. I sure don't remember them being particular about any one month. We got to Alaska in May 1967 and drove from Anchorage to Lake Louise on the weekend. It sounded like a pretty place. When we got there it was still frozen but the ice was punk. Starting to thaw and coated with thawed water. As the sun hit the lake the mosquitoes were hatching and literally coming off the wet ice in a black cloud. It did seem strange that 75F was hot enough to go swimming or to at least lie out in the sun. The little lake where we went to swim was fed by snow melt after all. But the sun that far north in the summer is very hot. Even when the air isn't. If it got over 80 our dog and our cat would pant. Jo Heatstroke signs? SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . and he said no, he didn't feel well. That he had a head ache and his stomache hurt. Jo |
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