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Singh - 26 Jul 2006 20:10 GMT
I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
as a collector..."It's more, um, like skip-tracing." It's the LIKE that
makes me scratch my head. The UM doesn't sound too pretty either. Or am
I just getting paranoid with cabin fever?

Please spare me a few, for this one and the interviews I had... and that
the next guy who calls is NOT one of those schmucks trying to get me to
pimp insurance for him!

Blessed be,
Baha
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far
> from me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that the next guy who calls is NOT one of those schmucks trying to
> get me to pimp insurance for him!

Good luck!

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Adrian A - 26 Jul 2006 21:19 GMT
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far
> from me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Lots of purrs for the interview to go well.
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Christine Burel - 26 Jul 2006 23:08 GMT
We're sending good job and interview purrs your way. Thinking of you!
Christine
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha
Takayuki - 27 Jul 2006 03:05 GMT
>I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
>me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
>as a collector..."It's more, um, like skip-tracing." It's the LIKE that
>makes me scratch my head. The UM doesn't sound too pretty either. Or am
>I just getting paranoid with cabin fever?

Purrs for sucessful interviews.  And better interviews.  I'm a little
wary of this work.  I don't have anything against skip tracing in
general - if you can trace someone who owes child support, or a
judgment in a wrongful death case or something like that, you're a
hero!  And looking for people who just happen to be in debt is
perfectly legitimate too.

But you don't like phone work, and I would think that skip tracing
would involve having to call some leads like former employers,
relatives, etc., and not just looking up records.
Singh - 27 Jul 2006 03:29 GMT
It isn't even that I so dislike phone work. It's that, in a typical call
center environment, they come in so fast that something in my head literally
shorts out. It's like I need a surge protector for the brain. It is a part of
my learning disability, which the doctor who tested me refers to as
perceptual memory dysfunction. Too much at once, I get scrambled up and have
even gone into something resembling petit-mal seizure. That once happened in
what they call training bay, a facsimile phone bank where you take calls
under close, strict supervision. I'm told I blanked out with my hands
hovering over the keyboard as if ready to enter something. I'm now on
anticonvulsants, but it can still come up a time or two. I need to be the one
initiating the calls so that information does not fly into my face and I can
prioritize and control what I am doing. It helps me operate better. I think I
can handle a skip-tracing job if it's under the right conditions for me. But
how to bring that up...? "Yes I'm interested and need work last week, but it
has to be on my terms alone so let me tell you how to run your office?" Not
kosher!

Blessed be,
Baha

> >I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> >me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> would involve having to call some leads like former employers,
> relatives, etc., and not just looking up records.
Takayuki - 27 Jul 2006 05:33 GMT
>It isn't even that I so dislike phone work. It's that, in a typical call
>center environment, they come in so fast that something in my head literally
>shorts out. It's like I need a surge protector for the brain. It is a part of
>my learning disability, which the doctor who tested me refers to as
>perceptual memory dysfunction. Too much at once, I get scrambled up and have
>even gone into something resembling petit-mal seizure.

Purrs that you find a job that doesn't trigger this!  You're certainly
fascinatingly complicated, and I hope that you'll find work that
meshes well with that.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 27 Jul 2006 07:24 GMT
> But you don't like phone work, and I would think that skip tracing
> would involve having to call some leads like former employers,
> relatives, etc., and not just looking up records.

I got the feeling it was more about being the recipient of one call
after another, from people asking all kinds of questions, rather than
phone phobia per se. I would hate hate hate working in a call center.
I'm sure I wouldn't last very long in one, either, as I am far too
short-tempered under that type of stress.

When I was young I had a number of service-sector jobs - fast food
joint, clerk in discount department store, etc. I found out fast
that I have almost no patience for people's indecision, questions,
complaints and demands. It's not like people aren't entitled to ask
questions or have needs, it's just that I don't have a personality
suited to dealing with it. So I vowed that I would never again work
in a job that required I work with the public. I'm much better when
they stick me in an office and leave me alone. :)

Joyce
Helen Miles - 27 Jul 2006 10:04 GMT
> When I was young I had a number of service-sector jobs - fast food
> joint, clerk in discount department store, etc. I found out fast
> that I have almost no patience for people's indecision, questions,
> complaints and demands. It's not like people aren't entitled to ask
> questions or have needs, it's just that I don't have a personality
> suited to dealing with it. //////

I spent last summer working as a coffee barista in Starbucks as I needed
the job (any job) and the money. My word was *THAT* a wake up call.
Quite apart from the Jehovahs Witness like cult culture (All bow at the
altar that is starbucks) and the brainwashed employess (and those of us
who refused to sucumb to the brainwashing of the marvel that is
starbucks were ostracised by the others) the rudeness of customers was
quite mindshattering. I get frustrated if the service is slow or poor,
but these days I am very, very rarely rude to service industry staff and
always try to be polite even when I am seething with anger. I also
refuse point blank to buy Starbucks coffee unless I have absolutely no
choice in the matter. I have become quite the coniseur of small
independent coffee shops around Cardiff. ;o)

Helen M
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 27 Jul 2006 11:02 GMT
> Quite apart from the Jehovahs Witness like cult culture (All bow at the
> altar that is starbucks) and the brainwashed employess (and those of us
> who refused to sucumb to the brainwashing of the marvel that is
> starbucks were ostracised by the others)

Ewww, I didn't know it was like that to work there!

> I also
> refuse point blank to buy Starbucks coffee unless I have absolutely no
> choice in the matter. I have become quite the coniseur of small
> independent coffee shops around Cardiff. ;o)

Glad to know you have them!

Joyce
Lesley - 27 Jul 2006 11:12 GMT
.
> Quite apart from the Jehovahs Witness like cult culture (All bow at the
> altar that is starbucks) and the brainwashed employess (and those of us
> who refused to sucumb to the brainwashing of the marvel that is
> starbucks were ostracised by the others)

Sounds a bit like MacDonald's. My neice worked for them when she was at
college and she told me that if you even slightly criticised the
company other workers would berate you. She did say sometimes it was
slightly creepy and almost cult like

This may explain the young couple who recently won the lottery and plan
to keep working at the Golden Arches because they love it so much, (I
was more scandalised to find that she was an area manager on £16K-
that is a pittance for any position but an area manager  ? That's
usually the Golden job in retail)

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 27 Jul 2006 11:18 GMT
> > Quite apart from the Jehovahs Witness like cult culture (All bow at the
> > altar that is starbucks) and the brainwashed employess (and those of us
> > who refused to sucumb to the brainwashing of the marvel that is
> > starbucks were ostracised by the others)

> Sounds a bit like MacDonald's. My neice worked for them when she was at
> college and she told me that if you even slightly criticised the
> company other workers would berate you. She did say sometimes it was
> slightly creepy and almost cult like

From what I've read, Mall-Wart is a lot like this, too.

Joyce
Jo Firey - 27 Jul 2006 18:05 GMT
Helen Miles wrote:
.
> Quite apart from the Jehovahs Witness like cult culture (All bow at the
> altar that is starbucks) and the brainwashed employess (and those of us
> who refused to sucumb to the brainwashing of the marvel that is
> starbucks were ostracised by the others)

Sounds a bit like MacDonald's. My neice worked for them when she was at
college and she told me that if you even slightly criticised the
company other workers would berate you. She did say sometimes it was
slightly creepy and almost cult like

This may explain the young couple who recently won the lottery and plan
to keep working at the Golden Arches because they love it so much, (I
was more scandalised to find that she was an area manager on £16K-
that is a pittance for any position but an area manager  ? That's
usually the Golden job in retail)

Since Mickey D's is a franchise, things like salary depend on the owner.  To
a very large extent so does the work culture.  Unless the area manager
worked for corporate, going around to check on individual franchises.  There
is precious little management involved in that.

My younger daughter has worked for McD since she was sixteen, with a few
stints at other places.  She now manages six stores and makes a very nice
living.  Has health insurance, owns a house, car is paid for, vacations,
etc.

It doesn't hurt that the guy she works for can afford to pay well and
prefers to leave the day to day operations to employees he can trust.

Jo
Cheryl Perkins - 27 Jul 2006 11:45 GMT
> I spent last summer working as a coffee barista in Starbucks as I needed
> the job (any job) and the money. My word was *THAT* a wake up call.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> choice in the matter. I have become quite the coniseur of small
> independent coffee shops around Cardiff. ;o)

I wonder how many of us have had those kinds of job experiences! Many
years ago, I worked for a temp agency specializing in banking. They
trained me as a teller, and off I went. Mostly, I liked it, but I learned
a lot! Some customers were indeed as you describe - I came to the
conclusion that some of them were simply mad at their wife or boss, and
wanted to take out their bad temper on the first person they met who
couldn't answer back or walk away! I could think of no other reason for
some of the behaviour, which often seemed completely unrelated to anything
I or the bank did. Then there were certain supervisors whose behaviour
made it perfectly clear why a particular branch depended so much on
temporary staff!

I am most definitely not suited to a position involving only customer
service, and I still try to be as polite as possible to any clerk serving
me.

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Lesley - 27 Jul 2006 14:37 GMT
> I am most definitely not suited to a position involving only customer
> service, and I still try to be as polite as possible to any clerk serving
> me.

I used to work in bookselling and I miss it terribly. I never found
people to be that bad- there's maybe 1% who could put "Annoying
assistants" down as a hobby but even most what appeared to be rude
customers were okay once they got the message that you were there to
help them and happy to do so.

But it's like a friend of mine says, people want things cheap so costs
have to be cut and  a lot of people end up in shop jobs who haven't got
the temperament but are prepared to work long hours for bad wages.
Anyone who might be good at it either gets promoted into management
where they don't have customer contact or they soon get tired of
working for peanuts and get jobs in other industries (For example a
friend of mine is an assistant in an off-licence a job where he has to
work long hours, unsocial hours and runs the risk of being robbed,
stabbed or shot on a daily basis and he takes home less than half of
what I do)

A lot of the problem is also the perception of shop work as not for
intelligent people.I used to get annoyed when people said to me "But
you've got A levels. You're too good to work in a shop!" In fact I was
doing a highly skilled and immensly variable job, which I loved doing
and found a lot more challenging than what I'm doing now.

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Singh - 27 Jul 2006 20:19 GMT
The local guys are always so much better anyway!

A couple of years ago Louie and I went to the Orchestra with another couple,
and wanted to continue the talk after the concert. We went along the Elmwood
Strip--Buffalo's center of arts and entertainment--looking for a nice place
to duck into. The Sweet Tooth, one of our best dessert joints, SRO. Spot
Coffee, lines going out the door and around the building; Cafe Aroma, we saw
people taking numbers like in a deli. And who had the empty tables and only
two customers in the place? Starbucks! After offering a prayer to the
goddess Caffeina for her forgiveness, we went and partook of inferiority.
God, I hope it doesn't get so bad that I'll actually have to apply there.

Blessed be,
Baha

> > When I was young I had a number of service-sector jobs - fast food
> > joint, clerk in discount department store, etc. I found out fast
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Cheryl - 27 Jul 2006 03:18 GMT
Job and Sabrina purrs enroute.

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Victor Martinez - 27 Jul 2006 04:26 GMT
> Please spare me a few, for this one and the interviews I had... and that
> the next guy who calls is NOT one of those schmucks trying to get me to
> pimp insurance for him!

Lots of job purrs on the way.

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Sam - 27 Jul 2006 04:50 GMT
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Purrs for the right interview to result in a good job for you.

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Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Marina - 27 Jul 2006 04:58 GMT
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the next guy who calls is NOT one of those schmucks trying to get me to
> pimp insurance for him!

Lots of purrs on the way. A lot seems to have happened while I was away.
I'm glad you're out of that previous job, though.

From the way you talk about make-up, I've been thinking you should do
something with make-up, but I have no ideas what kind of jobs there are
in that field.

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Takayuki - 27 Jul 2006 05:30 GMT
> From the way you talk about make-up, I've been thinking you should do
>something with make-up, but I have no ideas what kind of jobs there are
>in that field.

I think the Sabrinabuser she was just talking about is in that field,
so it might have turned her off it.  But if not...
Singh - 27 Jul 2006 20:31 GMT
Not quite, they just did Avon. The "better department stores," a term I find
laughable, would look at that on an application and just think, you've got
to be kidding. I'm not averse to the work. I do consulting for skincare
products, but it's not nearly enough to pay the bills, and won't help much
on an application to Macy's. My holiday work at Bath & Body Works will help
more than selling a couple bottles of cleanser, even if it's really, really
good cleanser.

Blessed be,
Baha

> > From the way you talk about make-up, I've been thinking you should do
> >something with make-up, but I have no ideas what kind of jobs there are
> >in that field.
>
> I think the Sabrinabuser she was just talking about is in that field,
> so it might have turned her off it.  But if not...
Singh - 27 Jul 2006 20:25 GMT
Few jobs without either contacts or training, and the training in New York is
expensive and not as comprehensive as in other states. I was once a
beautician, long ago. My car accident and subsequent back injury fouled it up
for me. Now that Macy's is moving into Buffalo, I have been thinking about
applying, but cosmetics is the top position in most chains: you have a product
that sells itself by and large, the least lifting, and the best commissions
outside of selling premium accessories like Coach bags. No one walks in and
takes it without prior experience or a state license. Perhaps there is a
licensing program for cosmeticians or aestheticians, but I'll need to look it
up. Won't stop me from applying, though!

Blessed be,
Baha

> > I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> > me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
> and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
Helen Miles - 27 Jul 2006 10:05 GMT
> Please spare me a few, for this one and the interviews I had... and that
> the next guy who calls is NOT one of those schmucks trying to get me to
> pimp insurance for him!
>
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Many good luck purrs.

Helen M
Lesley - 27 Jul 2006 10:08 GMT
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the next guy who calls is NOT one of those schmucks trying to get me to
> pimp insurance for him!

Purring like crazy for you!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Julie Cook - 29 Jul 2006 05:03 GMT
>I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Coming to this late, Baha, but purrs on the way for you to find the perfect
job.
Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus
polonca12000 - 29 Jul 2006 18:37 GMT
> I have an interview Friday with some collections outfit not too far from
> me. An agency set it up. The rep made a big point of telling me it's not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for you to get a great job really
soon,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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