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Kajikit - 16 Oct 2004 06:28 GMT
How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
keep the numbers down! lol)  Is there a maximum feline density that
makes the line between 'feline lover' and 'crazy cat person'?

It's less than three weeks till I go to Florida, and John's been
looking for kitties for us at the animal shelter. He's got me to look
online and they're so cute... I've never had a kitty before, but
looking at those poor babies on the website makes me want to pick them
all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
we can't do that... what do you advise?

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Tish Silberbauer - 16 Oct 2004 08:19 GMT
The cats will let you know how many you are to be blessed with.  We
started off with one - Ted, who would tolerate no competition.
Several years after Ted came to us, we acquired two d*gs on a trial
basis - too see if Ted would cope with them (she did).  Fast forward a
couple of years and we met Columbine (RB) in a farmers' market,
courtesy of the RSPCA.  Whilst she was with us only a short time, her
untimely departure prompted me to ask the local RSPCA about fostering
kittens, which is how we ended up with Spock and Persephone.  At the
beginning, one animal seemed just right, now five seems just right
(although when Mum's d*g, Bongo (RB) was with us, six animals seemed
just right).  Your home, hearts and litter box capacity will expand
according to circumstances and finances.  

And don't worry about being able to cope - cats are *very* good
tutors!  They'll have you obeying them in moments.

Tish

>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
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>all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
>we can't do that... what do you advise?
Victor Martinez - 16 Oct 2004 15:26 GMT
> untimely departure prompted me to ask the local RSPCA about fostering
> kittens, which is how we ended up with Spock and Persephone.  At the

That's how we got Fez and Rufous!

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 16 Oct 2004 21:13 GMT
>> untimely departure prompted me to ask the local RSPCA about fostering
>> kittens, which is how we ended up with Spock and Persephone.  At the

> That's how we got Fez and Rufous!

Yep, fostering is a dangerous occupation, as I have learned. The cat
population increased by 50% in my house after I fostered two cute black
kittens...

Joyce
Jo Firey - 16 Oct 2004 10:25 GMT
> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
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> all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
> we can't do that... what do you advise?

It really is a lot up to the cats.  Some require more attention than others.
Some tolerate other cats better than others.  But is any case start with one
and give your self a couple of months to see what you will be getting into
with more.

Another consideration, what are the chances you will be put in a position
where you have to give up your pet(s).  Its really not fair to take them if
you can't reasonably promise them a forever home.  Complete with food, love,
housekeeping, and medical care.  There is no such thing as a free kitten.
In the long run the purebreds I've bought haven't cost me any more or less
than those that just kind of invited themselves in.

Maybe we should take a poll.  How much do others here seem to spend on vet
care per year per pet?  I'm guessing I've averaged close to $500 per pet per
year of its life.

Jo

Jo
Debbie Wilson - 16 Oct 2004 11:02 GMT
> Maybe we should take a poll.  How much do others here seem to spend on vet
> care per year per pet?  I'm guessing I've averaged close to $500 per pet per
> year of its life.

That's an interesting idea.
Me in the UK: 4 indoor/outdoor cats, 2 bedroom 1 reception flat with
garden, 2 available laps, 1 big litterbox (but they have outside
access), 4 separate food bowls. Approx. cost per year for 4 cats: food
£550, litter £110, regular vet costs (flea & worming, vaccinations)
£255, pet insurance £288. Total £1203 = about £300 per cat per year
(that's around US$541 and AUS$742).
That doesn't include any unexpected vet costs that aren't covered by
insurance, e.g. dentals @ around £60 a go.

Good estimate, Jo - interesting that it's about the same on both sides
of the pond!

FWIW, my 4 are in a stable 'pack' and it's clear they have a hierarchy
of dominance. They all get lots of attention and usually don't demand it
all at once. Bedtime can get a little crowded though! :-) They were all
acquired at different times, but significantly, 3 out of the 4 arrived
as kittens. I would say that it's nearly always OK to introduce a new
kitten to a household. It's introducing new adult cats to an established
group that could cause trouble, but not always by a long way. It depends
on the purrsonality of the new adult cat.

Kajikit, why not adopt a pre-bonded group of cats or kittens? For
example, maybe a whole litter from the shelter? A litter of 3 kittens
wanting a home - it would be a lovely idea to adopt them all together,
finances and space permitting? Or adopt a pair of adult cats that are
already used to each other, then if you wanted more, adopt a young
kitten later on?

Deb.

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Jeanette - 16 Oct 2004 16:17 GMT
> Kajikit, why not adopt a pre-bonded group of cats or kittens? For
> example, maybe a whole litter from the shelter? A litter of 3 kittens
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>
> Deb.

A good idea, or you could adopt one or more kittens and their mother. Mum
cats are often left waiting around to be adopted for weeks after their
kittens have all been snapped up.

Jeanette
O J - 16 Oct 2004 10:41 GMT
>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
>keep the numbers down! lol)  Is there a maximum feline density that
>makes the line between 'feline lover' and 'crazy cat person'?
---------------------<snip>----------------------

Don't stop at just being an ailurophile.  Go straight to 'crazy cat
person'.  A half dozen ought to do it.  Don't get them all at once
though -- two should do for a starter.  Then work your way up to six.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Christina Websell - 16 Oct 2004 15:54 GMT
>>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

6 is a crazy cat person?  Then how would you describe someone who has 70,
all indoor, and mostly elderly unhomables and ex ferals? There is someone
like that lives a mile or so away from me.  When the front door is opened
the smell almost blows you back to the roadside.

I have two, that is a nice number for me.  They don't cost a lot to keep
foodwise, but I like to think I'll be able to afford the vet's bill if
something serious happens to one, or even both at the same time and I have
some money stashed away for this.
Now, if my kitties hadn't chosen me themselves, and I was out to get my
first chosen kitties, I'd probably go to a shelter and choose two maybe
middle-aged ones who'd always lived together and would grieve if parted,
something like that.  Some shelters will help with vets fees if you agree to
take on one or two with existing health problems. These are the ones that
are hardest to home.

If I got on well with those, and wanted more, I'd perhaps choose a kitten
just for me after that.

You must be excited, Kajikit to be able to get your very first kitties soon.
May you have many happy years with them  (and of *course* they'll like you,
cats always love their meowmies and paws) eventually...when they feel safe
with you.  Developing a trusting relationship with a shy cat is very special
and can take time.
Cue BF to spring up into the armchair next to me ;-) and he did. Showing off
with his new posh reflective collar which works a treat.  In the torchlight
last night I could see him yards away, or rather his collar.

Tweed
CatNipped - 16 Oct 2004 16:40 GMT
> 6 is a crazy cat person?  Then how would you describe someone who has 70,
> all indoor, and mostly elderly unhomables and ex ferals? There is someone
> like that lives a mile or so away from me.  When the front door is opened
> the smell almost blows you back to the roadside.

That's just sad - that's a "collector".  Are they breeding in there?  70
cats can't all be socialized.  I'll bet most of them are feral, none are
speutered, and they must live in horrible conditions (if you can smell it
from the roadside, imagine how cats, whose sense of smell is about a
thousand times more sensitive than ours, must feel living in the miasma!!)

> I have two, that is a nice number for me.  They don't cost a lot to keep
> foodwise, but I like to think I'll be able to afford the vet's bill if
> something serious happens to one, or even both at the same time and I have
> some money stashed away for this.

Yeah, I agree.  I have a little stashed away for this too, but if it came to
more I would put myself into serious debt in order to care for one of my
babies - they deserve no less.

> Now, if my kitties hadn't chosen me themselves, and I was out to get my
> first chosen kitties, I'd probably go to a shelter and choose two maybe
> middle-aged ones who'd always lived together and would grieve if parted,
> something like that.  Some shelters will help with vets fees if you agree to
> take on one or two with existing health problems. These are the ones that
> are hardest to home.

Bless your heart Tweed, that's so true!

> If I got on well with those, and wanted more, I'd perhaps choose a kitten
> just for me after that.

Have you read any of Sammy's stories lately!!???  LOL

> You must be excited, Kajikit to be able to get your very first kitties soon.
> May you have many happy years with them  (and of *course* they'll like you,
> cats always love their meowmies and paws) eventually...when they feel safe
> with you.  Developing a trusting relationship with a shy cat is very special
> and can take time.

Definitely!  From what I've read here and in other groups, the biggest
satisfaction comes when a formerly feral cat becomes a lap fungus.

> Cue BF to spring up into the armchair next to me ;-) and he did. Showing off
> with his new posh reflective collar which works a treat.  In the torchlight
> last night I could see him yards away, or rather his collar.
>
> Tweed

Aw, sweetie BF!  I love that you posted his picture, now I can picture him
so much better when you talk about him!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christina Websell - 16 Oct 2004 18:12 GMT
>> 6 is a crazy cat person?  Then how would you describe someone who has 70,
>> all indoor, and mostly elderly unhomables and ex ferals? There is someone
>> like that lives a mile or so away from me.  When the front door is opened
>> the smell almost blows you back to the roadside.
>
> That's just sad - that's a "collector".  Are they breeding in there?

No.

> 70 cats can't all be socialized.  I'll bet most of them are feral, none
> are
> speutered,

They are all speutered.  I don't know if they are all socialised, but they
all live in the house, so it can't be too bad to live with them.

>and they must live in horrible conditions (if you can smell it
> from the roadside,

No, cannot smell it from the roadside, only when the front door opens.
Urine mainly.  Cat smell.

> imagine how cats, whose sense of smell is about a
> thousand times more sensitive than ours, must feel living in the miasma!!)

I can imagine it for the cats, but I'm not sure if the best alternative
would be dead, which it certainly would be.

>> I have two, that is a nice number for me.  They don't cost a lot to keep
>> foodwise, but I like to think I'll be able to afford the vet's bill if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> more I would put myself into serious debt in order to care for one of my
> babies - they deserve no less.

I have managed to stash away quite a lot for my two, just in case.  I hope I
wouldn't have to put myself into serious debt for their vet's bills, but if
I had to, I would.

>>  Some shelters will help with vets fees if you agree to
>> take on one or two with existing health problems. These are the ones that
>> are hardest to home.
>
> Bless your heart Tweed, that's so true!

Some shelters here will pay *all* the vets fees for a cat/dog with an
ongoing health problem that needs regular medication if you agree to adopt
it.  I'd be prepared to do that.

>> If I got on well with those, and wanted more, I'd perhaps choose a kitten
>> just for me after that.
>
> Have you read any of Sammy's stories lately!!???  LOL

Yes ;-)  Changed my mind..

>> You must be excited, Kajikit to be able to get your very first kitties
> soon.
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> Definitely!  From what I've read here and in other groups, the biggest
> satisfaction comes when a formerly feral cat becomes a lap fungus.

I've had so much pleasure from:
When BF first came into the kitchen to eat his food after months of being
too scared.
When I turned around from the computer and found him asleep on my armchair.
But as soon as he realised I saw him he ran outside.
When he let me put a collar on him.
and today!! for the first time ever. I was sitting on my armchair.  BF
suddenly jumped up onto the arm of the chair, walked across my lap and
settled down at the side of me, touching .  We had a little snooze together.
This is the very first time he's been brave enough to cuddle.

> Aw, sweetie BF!  I love that you posted his picture, now I can picture him
> so much better when you talk about him!

He *is* a sweetie, he's a gorgeous kind boy.  Must get a digicam of my own
for more.

Tweed
CatNipped - 16 Oct 2004 23:29 GMT
> >> 6 is a crazy cat person?  Then how would you describe someone who has 70,
> >> all indoor, and mostly elderly unhomables and ex ferals? There is someone
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> No.

That's very unusual then.  Most people who have 70 cats get them because
they allow the ones they have to breed and then it gets out of hand.

> > 70 cats can't all be socialized.  I'll bet most of them are feral, none
> > are
> > speutered,
>
> They are all speutered.  I don't know if they are all socialised, but they
> all live in the house, so it can't be too bad to live with them.

Wow!  I can't imagine living in a house with 70 cats, as much as I love
cats, that would just be too much work for me and how do you pet and play
individually with that many (seriously thinking about this... oh please stop
me!!!) ;>

> >and they must live in horrible conditions (if you can smell it
> > from the roadside,
>
> No, cannot smell it from the roadside, only when the front door opens.
> Urine mainly.  Cat smell.

Yeah, that's got to be bad with that many cats.

> > imagine how cats, whose sense of smell is about a
> > thousand times more sensitive than ours, must feel living in the miasma!!)
>
> I can imagine it for the cats, but I'm not sure if the best alternative
> would be dead, which it certainly would be.

No, of course not, but rehomed to a place with less cats and less smell
might be a godsend to some of them.

> >> I have two, that is a nice number for me.  They don't cost a lot to keep
> >> foodwise, but I like to think I'll be able to afford the vet's bill if
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> wouldn't have to put myself into serious debt for their vet's bills, but if
> I had to, I would.

Yeah, I couldn't let any of mine go without a major battle to keep them here
with me - I think I could only do it if they were ready to be let go, and
even then it would kill me a little inside.

> >>  Some shelters will help with vets fees if you agree to
> >> take on one or two with existing health problems. These are the ones that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> ongoing health problem that needs regular medication if you agree to adopt
> it.  I'd be prepared to do that.

Those shelters that can afford to do that are lucky - there are not many
over here in the states that can.  Our public shelters are woefully
underfunded and an unconcionable number of cats (and dogs) are euthanized
because they can't be homed.

> >> If I got on well with those, and wanted more, I'd perhaps choose a kitten
> >> just for me after that.
> >
> > Have you read any of Sammy's stories lately!!???  LOL
>
> Yes ;-)  Changed my mind..

On second thought, I reread "Kiss you all over" and changed my mind - I
would do it again in a heartbeat!! ;>

> >> You must be excited, Kajikit to be able to get your very first kitties
> > soon.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> settled down at the side of me, touching .  We had a little snooze together.
> This is the very first time he's been brave enough to cuddle.

Woohoo!  Go BF!!

> > Aw, sweetie BF!  I love that you posted his picture, now I can picture him
> > so much better when you talk about him!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tweed

Most definitely - Sammy wants to see more of that handsome lad.

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 16 Oct 2004 16:54 GMT
On Sat, 16 Oct, Tweed wrote:

>6 is a crazy cat person?  Then how would you describe someone who has 70,
>all indoor, and mostly elderly unhomables and ex ferals? There is someone
>like that lives a mile or so away from me.  When the front door is opened
>the smell almost blows you back to the roadside.
---------------------<snip>----------------------

That is an unfortunate person with a compulsion that needs
professional care.  Of course, both of us know that the original
poster didn't mean that.  For some of us, 'crazy cat person' in the
'quirky', not the sick sense can be a light-hearted way to describe
oneself.  Some folks manage to bring it off with just two cats, but
most of us would require a half dozen to be worthy of the appellation.

But you knew that!

Regards and Hugs,
O J
Victor Martinez - 16 Oct 2004 15:25 GMT
> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
> keep the numbers down! lol)  Is there a maximum feline density that
> makes the line between 'feline lover' and 'crazy cat person'?

I think it's a complex balance of things: space, time, money... We have
seven cats, indoor only with access to an enclosure where they can go
smell the birds and squirrels. I think our cats are extremely happy
critters, well adjusted and very loving. Our house is by no means dirty
(thought it could use a more through cleaning) and people who come in
for the first time can't believe there's 7 cats in there. :)
If we had a bigger house and income, I think we could have more cats.
Tom says 7 is too many already, but he loves them all dearly. :) :) :)
I think the answer to that question is something like:
as many cats as you can keep happy and healthy

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Susan M - 16 Oct 2004 16:07 GMT
> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
> keep the numbers down! lol)  Is there a maximum feline density that
> makes the line between 'feline lover' and 'crazy cat person'?

You know, I think two cats are a nice start rather than one.  Many cats are
happier with at least one buddy.  Most times at the shelter, there is always
at least a pair who are related or came in together so that you wouldn't
have to worry about personality problems.  Or, if a single cat claims you, I
always harp on how we found Chester.  Knowing that Otis would be dominant
and high maintenance, we found Chester at the shelter, took him out of his
cage, and took him to visit all the cats in the cages marked "must be single
cat".  When they hissed at him, he yawned rather disinterestedly and kept
purring.  We knew that Otis wouldn't get under his skin.  He was unfazed
rather than underconfident.

I'm am soooooooooooo excited for you.  I hope you get to pick them out
together - we still reminisce about how we met Otis and Chester and how they
chose us :-)

Susan M
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CatNipped - 16 Oct 2004 16:32 GMT
> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
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Get as many as you can afford plus one (you can always manage to squeeze the
extra money from somewhere and the extra love is priceless!).

As someone said further down the thread, you need to calculate how much it
will cost in your area.  For me for 4 cats, living in Houston (big city
pricing), cost per year is:

$40 every 2 weeks for food - $840.00
$10 every week for kitty litter - $520.00
$125 per cat yearly vet visits - $500.00
$120 every 3 months for flea prevention - $480.00
$5 per week for cat toys (not essential since they like bottle caps
better) - $260.00

Plus any special vet visits (I've been lucky so far, haven't had any of
those for all of Bandit's 14 years, Demi's 6 years, Jessie's 5 years, or
Sammy's 6 months).

So total comes to about $2,600 for 4 cats or $650.00 per cat plus
incidentals.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Cheryl Perkins - 16 Oct 2004 17:04 GMT
> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
> keep the numbers down! lol)  Is there a maximum feline density that
> makes the line between 'feline lover' and 'crazy cat person'?

As many as you can care for properly. I don't like making hard and fast
rules. I could house more with the space I have, and it's possible I could
do it with without upsetting the current aging cats too much, which is
another consideration. But I'd need more money for regular vet care and
vet emergencies in order to take on more cats.

I suspect my mother thinks I'm a crazy cat lady already, but she doesn't
like cats and can't understand how anyone could have even one cat. I don't
consider anyone to be really a crazy cat person unless they are one of
those sad cases who have too many cats to care for at all. They often seem
to be people who can't care for themselves too well, either. The local
SPCA has taken very appropriate action in a couple of cases like that -
they'll remove the cats or dogs under the usual laws, and if it is
appropriate, return one or two after paying for and arranging
spaying/neutering. This can work with people who aren't incapable of
caring for animals, but who got overwhelmed or were uneducated about
animal care.

Cheryl
Steve Touchstone - 16 Oct 2004 17:08 GMT
>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
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>all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
>we can't do that... what do you advise?

hee hee, obviously, the acceptable litterbox location (not something I
would have thought of off hand, but since you brought it up it sure
makes sense).

Getting a little bit serious - I think the cats get to decide. You can
have lots of cats, if they get along. Or, you might get a cat who is
determined to be an only cat, and a determined cat can make everyone
miserable until they fget what they want.
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mlbriggs - 16 Oct 2004 17:35 GMT
>>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
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> determined to be an only cat, and a determined cat can make everyone
> miserable until they fget what they want.

If you start with young kittens, get two.  If you get a mature cat, it
might be best to start with one.  After that, let your conscience be your
guide (also your wallet).MLB
Sherry - 16 Oct 2004 17:23 GMT
>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
>we can't do that... what do you advise?

I think the answer for everyone is different. My personal limit is four. Up to
four, it's no big deal and I'm confident everybody gets enough care &
attention. But add one more, and it's like cat critical mass. It feels like
there are cats everywhere. :-)

Sherry
Enfilade - 16 Oct 2004 23:20 GMT
> >How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> >available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
> >keep the numbers down! lol)  Is there a maximum feline density that
> >makes the line between 'feline lover' and 'crazy cat person'?

Here is the difference:

1.  Can you feed everyone in the house on good healthy food, including
the humans?
2.  Does everyone get adequate medical and dental care?
3.  Does everyone get along well with everyone else?
4.  Does everyone live in sanitary conditions?

If the answer to all these questions is yes, you're a feline lover.
If any answers are no, you are a crazy cat person.

***

There's no hard and fast "number that is too many".  If you have two
very territorial cats, two may be too many if they are trying to kill
each other.  However, if you have eight cats who all like each other,
and you can afford to look after everyone, then having eight is fine.
Our rule is that if a newcomer cannot get along with those previously
in residence, the newcomer gets re-homed (we haven't had to do that
yet).

In our two bedroom apartment, we planned to have two, maybe 3.  We got
four when my partner found two kittens in the trash.

I would recommend getting a pair of siblings, or two older cats who
like one another.  Cats are natural colony animals and most (though
not all) thrive better when they have the company of their own
species.

Get a litter box for each cat (yes, we have four boxes) and a bowl for
food for each.  ANd enjoy!

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Steve Touchstone - 17 Oct 2004 07:11 GMT
>There's no hard and fast "number that is too many".  If you have two
>very territorial cats, two may be too many if they are trying to kill
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>in residence, the newcomer gets re-homed (we haven't had to do that
>yet).
<snip>
I understand one of my step-aunts has around 30. Actually, she's my
step-siblings step aunt. Anyway, I probably haven't seen her for over
30 years. She still lives in the three bedroom house where she raised
her two kids. It's just her and the cats, since her husband and both
of her children have passed on. From what I hear, she's very well off,
and dotes on the cats. From what my mom says, she spends a fortune on
TED bills, so I assume they're all well cared for.

Anyway, her crew don't all get along, and she has two smaller groups
that live in the spare bedrooms, and a larger group that has the run
of the house. Each room has a bed and TV, so she actually takes turns
sleeping in each bedroom. Mom says she seldom goes out, as she feels
she needs to spend quality time with each group.
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Jeanette - 17 Oct 2004 10:17 GMT
> >There's no hard and fast "number that is too many".  If you have two
> >very territorial cats, two may be too many if they are trying to kill
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> >yet).
> <snip>

It's worth mentioning that conditions can change. I've known a couple for
years, they've always had between ten and fifteen cats. When I first knew
them, the house was immaculate, and the cats were well cared for. Then one
of the people got sick, and things went downhill, naturally enough. Whilst
they managed to keep up with necessary vet visits, there was a noticeable
smell of cat pee in the house when I next visitedd. She's fine now, and
things are back to normal.

Jeanette
Adrian - 16 Oct 2004 18:58 GMT
> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
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> all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
> we can't do that... what do you advise?

I once visited a woman's house as part of my job. She had a reputation
as a cat lover and never turned a cat away. So when I called on her she
had 27 cats, so a visit that should have taken 20 minutes, took over 2
hours. I had to stoke all the cats. :-) They were all well cared for and
happy.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 16 Oct 2004 21:43 GMT
> I once visited a woman's house as part of my job. She had a reputation
> as a cat lover and never turned a cat away. So when I called on her she
> had 27 cats, so a visit that should have taken 20 minutes, took over 2
> hours. I had to stoke all the cats. :-) They were all well cared for and
> happy.

The question is, did you have to stroke all the cats because she made
you do it, or because YOU made you do it? :)

What was the job?

Joyce
Adrian - 17 Oct 2004 11:31 GMT
>  > I once visited a woman's house as part of my job. She had a
> reputation  > as a cat lover and never turned a cat away. So when I
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>
> Joyce

The cats made me. :-) I used to deliver televisions, VCRs etc. One of
the best parts of the the job was meeting peoples cats. Another customer
I'll always remember had a 23 year old, totally blind cat, I was sitting
on the floor tuning in the television, when he walked across the room
and bumped into me. As soon as he realised he'd found a lap, he climed
on and purred like a diesel engine.
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Seanette Blaylock - 17 Oct 2004 14:19 GMT
"Adrian" <anca@bigfoot.com> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: How many cats?:

>The cats made me. :-) I used to deliver televisions, VCRs etc. One of
>the best parts of the the job was meeting peoples cats. Another customer
>I'll always remember had a 23 year old, totally blind cat, I was sitting
>on the floor tuning in the television, when he walked across the room
>and bumped into me. As soon as he realised he'd found a lap, he climed
>on and purred like a diesel engine.

Awwww. ;-)

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Oct 2004 03:54 GMT
> I'll always remember had a 23 year old, totally blind cat, I was sitting
> on the floor tuning in the television, when he walked across the room
> and bumped into me. As soon as he realised he'd found a lap, he climed
> on and purred like a diesel engine.

Awww... I'll bet your later customers were wondering when you were going
to show up! :)

Joyce
Adrian - 18 Oct 2004 19:24 GMT
>  > I'll always remember had a 23 year old, totally blind cat, I was
> sitting  > on the floor tuning in the television, when he walked
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>
> Joyce

I got to them all eventually. :-)
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SUQKRT - 17 Oct 2004 00:03 GMT
>How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
>available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
>we can't do that... what do you advise?

You should wait until you're there to pick a cat. Its sort of a you know when
its right thing. I knew Spicey was for me when she fell asleep in my
wheelchair. I was worried she'd be afraid of it.
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Kajikit - 17 Oct 2004 03:20 GMT
SUQKRT had something important to tell us on 16 Oct 2004 23:03:09 GMT:

>You should wait until you're there to pick a cat. Its sort of a you know when
>its right thing. I knew Spicey was for me when she fell asleep in my
>wheelchair. I was worried she'd be afraid of it.

I know they have to meet me... you can't just choose a cat on the
basis of a sweet picture and a sob-story on the internet. But little
Perry is SO sweet... John went to visit him and he put his paws out of
the cage to say hello and he just purred and purred when John stroked
him :) If he likes me, then he's ours... Only I'm afraid that he'll be
gone before I get there - I'm actually surprised that he hasn't been
adopted yet because he's an adorable little ginger fluffball with the
sweetest little stripes on his legs and a white throat, and the
shelter said he'd been there a month already! Poor baby...
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Flippy - 17 Oct 2004 22:29 GMT
Hi Karen,

When I had only Romeo & Juliet, I used to think that 2 cats are enough. Then
we got Chloe, and I thought that 3 cats is enough. Then a few years later
Tiffy needed a home, so 4 cats was perfect. Of course, a few months later
Jetson decided to move in with us so now 5 cats is absolutely ideal!

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> How many cats do you think you should have? One per room? Per
> available lap? Per bed? Per hand? Per litterbox? (now THERE'S a way to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> all up and take them home and look after them. Only of course I know
> we can't do that... what do you advise?
 
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