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Yowie - 18 Jul 2006 23:40 GMT
I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are updating fine.

Help! I need my daily fix of RPCA or I'll go mad!

Purrs to those who need them

Yowie
Matthew - 18 Jul 2006 23:44 GMT
> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are updating
> fine.
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>
> Yowie

I think there is a problem with server that host RPCA   last week my post
were almost online in a moment  but  now  most are not even showing up  or
takes forever to show up
jmcquown - 19 Jul 2006 00:51 GMT
>> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are
>> updating fine.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> post were almost online in a moment  but  now  most are not even
> showing up  or takes forever to show up

There are multiple servers hosting RPCA.  I'm not having any problem reading
or posting; it depends on your ISP's server, not your newsreader "host".

Jill
Cheryl - 19 Jul 2006 01:04 GMT
>>> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are
>>> updating fine.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> problem reading or posting; it depends on your ISP's server, not
> your newsreader "host".

Exactly.  Messages propagate from news server to news server, and
sometimes a news server is unable to accept the feed for one reason
or another. Sometimes they catch up, and you have a ton of aged
articles that just POUR in.  Or, they are lost in the abyss.  

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Pat - 18 Jul 2006 23:51 GMT
> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are updating
> fine.
>
> Help! I need my daily fix of RPCA or I'll go mad!

Try google groups. I can see 16 new threads, many with numerous replies, in
the last 24 hours.
Joy - 19 Jul 2006 00:43 GMT
> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are updating fine.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Yowie

I've been seeing posts, but not as many as usual.

Joy
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jul 2006 01:50 GMT
>> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are
>> updating fine.
>>
>> Help! I need my daily fix of RPCA or I'll go mad!
>
> I've been seeing posts, but not as many as usual.

It's too hot to post.

Joyce
Cheryl - 19 Jul 2006 01:54 GMT
On Tue 18 Jul 2006 08:50:36p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
(news:44bd81dc$0$34564$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net):

> >> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are
> >> updating fine.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> It's too hot to post.

Life is too crazy to make a coherent post. I'm just reading, and
clicking on the cuteoverload site links. Next few days are going to
be another bunch of unpaid overtime for me. My inbox is full of help
desk type requests and questions because of a new round of staff
adjusting to terminal server.  Oy.

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Magic Mood Jeep© - 19 Jul 2006 01:56 GMT
Great, now you've given me an ear worm!

"...I have become comfortably numb"

> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are
> updating fine.
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>
> Yowie
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jul 2006 02:37 GMT
"Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:

> Great, now you've given me an ear worm!

> "...I have become comfortably numb"

I guess I should be glad I don't know this song?

Joyce
Cheryl - 19 Jul 2006 02:40 GMT
On Tue 18 Jul 2006 09:37:00p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
(news:44bd8cbc$0$34520$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net):

> "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
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>
> Joyce

Think Pink.  ;)  This gives me a memory to smile to, but also brings
tears.  I don't cry as much these days, and I don't know what to make
of that.  Pink Floyd "The Wall" was a guarenteed way to calm Eric
down when he was trying to climb out of the playpen. I don't think
people use playpens much these days for kids.  25+ years ago, we did.
Eric would totally mellow out to Pink Floyd music.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Jul 2006 02:52 GMT
> > > "...I have become comfortably numb"
> >
> > I guess I should be glad I don't know this song?
> >
> > Joyce

> Think Pink.  ;)  This gives me a memory to smile to, but also brings
> tears.  I don't cry as much these days, and I don't know what to make
> of that.  Pink Floyd "The Wall" was a guarenteed way to calm Eric
> down when he was trying to climb out of the playpen. I don't think
> people use playpens much these days for kids.  25+ years ago, we did.
> Eric would totally mellow out to Pink Floyd music.

Oh, *that* Pink. For a second, I thought you meant the current singer,
Pink. Ewww.

I've heard Dark Side of the Moon a number of times, but not enough to
remember specific lyrics. Which song was this? Oh wait, you just said it
was The Wall. Duh. Same question, though.

Joyce
Pat - 19 Jul 2006 03:04 GMT
> > > > "...I have become comfortably numb"
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> remember specific lyrics. Which song was this? Oh wait, you just said it
> was The Wall. Duh. Same question, though.

"The Wall" is the name of an album, too. The song name is "Comfortably Numb"

Hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?

Come on, now.
I hear you're feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain,
Get you on your feet again.

Relax.
I need some information first.
Just the basic facts:
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ships smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're sayin.
When I was a child I had a fever.
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I got that feeling once again.
I can't explain, you would not understand.
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

Ok.
Just a little pinprick. [ping]
There'll be no more --aaaaaahhhhh!
But you may feel a little sick.

Can you stand up?
I do believe its working. good.
That'll keep you going for the show.
Come on it's time to go.

There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ships smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin.
When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse,
Out of the corner of my eye.
I turned to look but it was gone.
I cannot put my finger on it now.
The child is grown, the dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.
Mishi - 19 Jul 2006 03:09 GMT
> > > > "...I have become comfortably numb"
> > >
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>
>Joyce

Tonight VH1 Classic ran a Pink Floyd concert - of course, Comfortably
Numb was one of the songs. Love their music!  I would like to get a
DVD of thier movie, "The Wall".  It is about 24 years old, as my hubby
and I saw it just after we were married.
Adrian A - 19 Jul 2006 10:20 GMT
> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are
> updating fine.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Yowie

Try using nntp.aioe.org that's the server that Bev and Lois now use since
their ISPs dropped usenet. I use as a backup to my ISPs news server.
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Lisa Katt - 21 Jul 2006 10:19 GMT
Adrian A skrev i meddelandet ...

>Try using nntp.aioe.org that's the server that Bev and Lois now use since
>their ISPs dropped usenet. I use as a backup to my ISPs news server.
>--
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>http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

So do I.
Elisabet
Christina Websell - 21 Jul 2006 17:23 GMT
> Adrian A skrev i meddelandet ...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> So do I.
> Elisabet

I use news.syr.edu to view binaries like pictures.animals since my ISP
dropped Usenet earlier this year.  It's a free server but you can only view
and not post.  Otherwise I use news.individual.net but this doesn't support
any binary groups.

Tweed
SuzQ - 22 Jul 2006 16:59 GMT
Not moi, Spicey and I are currently visiting Mars.
Suz&Spicey
Singh - 25 Jul 2006 12:35 GMT
I'm still here. I've just been busting my onions on job sites and going to
interviews, and awaiting the phone calls that turn out to be...

drumrolls please...

MORE FREAKING PHONE SALES WORK!!!

WTF?! Am I so repulsive that every managerial figurehead wants to keep me out of
public view? Am I less skilled than the guy who drops urinal cookies in the
men's rooms of packaging plants? Gackkkk!!!

Blessed be,
Baha

> I've seen no new messages in RPCA for 24 hours. Other NGs are updating fine.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Yowie
Lesley - 25 Jul 2006 12:55 GMT
> WTF?! Am I so repulsive that every managerial figurehead wants to keep me out of
> public view?

And I get the interviews but not the jobs so it must be that I look
great on paper but I think when they see me in the flesh they think "I
don't want to look at THAT all day!"

Keep on in there, something will turn up...for both of us....I always
say when you are job hunting "You have to kick a lot of doors before
you find one that opens"

Lesley

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Christina Websell - 25 Jul 2006 21:34 GMT
>> WTF?! Am I so repulsive that every managerial figurehead wants to keep me
>> out of
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> great on paper but I think when they see me in the flesh they think "I
> don't want to look at THAT all day!"

What do you mean, Lesley?   THAT.  What?  Would you mind explaining what you
think it is that is putting employers off someone who has the skills to do
the work?
If they are equal opportunity employers it might be illegal, that's what I'm
thinking.

Tweed

> Keep on in there, something will turn up...for both of us....I always
> say when you are job hunting "You have to kick a lot of doors before
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Slave of the Fabulous  Furballs
Monique Y. Mudama - 25 Jul 2006 23:22 GMT
>>> WTF?! Am I so repulsive that every managerial figurehead wants to
>>> keep me out of public view?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the skills to do the work?  If they are equal opportunity employers
> it might be illegal, that's what I'm thinking.

I honestly don't think this is what's happening.  But when we don't
get accepted for a job after going through the interview, all our
nastiest internal critics give voice to their nasty comments.
Rejection hurts.

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Takayuki - 26 Jul 2006 01:37 GMT
>>> And I get the interviews but not the jobs so it must be that I look
>>> great on paper but I think when they see me in the flesh they think
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>nastiest internal critics give voice to their nasty comments.
>Rejection hurts.

Interviews are just a hard process.  It's not exactly that people look
good on paper, and then you reject them when you interview them.  The
last time I was hiring someone, I interviewed over a dozen people.

It's not so much that they looked good on paper, but I couldn't tell
enough about their qualifications from their resumes, so I had to ask
them specific questions directly so that I could rate them uniformly
according to the criteria I prepared for the position.  I was looking
for a project leader though, so I was more careful about it than I
usually am.
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2006 03:31 GMT
> It's not so much that they looked good on paper, but I couldn't tell
> enough about their qualifications from their resumes, so I had to
> ask them specific questions directly so that I could rate them
> uniformly according to the criteria I prepared for the position.  I
> was looking for a project leader though, so I was more careful about
> it than I usually am.

Have you ever used phone interviews to narrow it down?  For my current
job, I had a preliminary phone conversation with an HR person, who
then recommended me to the engineering time, who then scheduled a
technical interview with me, again over the phone.  By the time I
actually showed up at the building, I felt like I had probably already
landed the job, but they wanted to see me in person just to make sure
the vibe was right.

I really liked doing the technical interview over the phone.  I also
really liked the way it was structured -- they tell you in advance
that they will cover multiple subjects, and they will keep asking
questions in each subject until they feel you're out of your depth,
then move on to the next subject.  So you know in advance you aren't
expected to get everything right.  Because there are so many different
technical teams in the company, this both establishes your level of
competence and helps them figure out which team might fit you best.

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Takayuki - 26 Jul 2006 05:47 GMT
>Have you ever used phone interviews to narrow it down?  For my current
>job, I had a preliminary phone conversation with an HR person, who
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>technical teams in the company, this both establishes your level of
>competence and helps them figure out which team might fit you best.

I've done fewer over the phone, but I've done that too.  Over the
phone is okay, in person is better.  But I can understand that not
everyone has the time to meet in person for a preliminary interview.
Lesley - 26 Jul 2006 10:48 GMT
> What do you mean, Lesley?   THAT.  What?  Would you mind explaining what you
> think it is that is putting employers off someone who has the skills to do
> the work?

I don't interview terribly well I think. I always want to turn up
wearing one of two t-shirts. The first would say "I'm clean, decent and
reliable- so give me the job!" and the other one would say "I'm not
usually a gibbering idiot- interviews just do this to me!"

I once managed to spill boiling hot coffee over the groin of some guy
who was interviewing me- another job I didn't get

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
John F. Eldredge - 26 Jul 2006 14:02 GMT
>> What do you mean, Lesley?   THAT.  What?  Would you mind explaining what you
>> think it is that is putting employers off someone who has the skills to do
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I once managed to spill boiling hot coffee over the groin of some guy
>who was interviewing me- another job I didn't get

The most thoroughly garbled job interview I ever had was the time I
ran over a piece of scrap metal on the way to the interview.  One of
my front tires blew out, so rapidly that I bent my wheel rim when it
hit the ground.  I was on the Interstate highway, going about 60 miles
per hour at the time.  It was fortunate that I had both hands on the
steering wheel, as the car fishtailed and almost rolled over.

I had had another flat tire about an hour earlier, so I didn't have a
spare tire available.  I rolled the blown-out tire up an exit ramp,
and a passer-by stopped and gave me a ride to a tire shop, where I had
the wheel straightened out and bought a new tire.  I called my job
interview site from the tire shop, explaining why I was going to be
late.

When I finally reached the prospective employer, an hour late, I was
still shaky from the near-death experience, having had time to realize
what almost happened.  I couldn't focus during the interview, and
didn't realize until I was halfway home afterwards that I had
forgotten to give them the resume' I had taken along with me.  I never
heard anything back from the prospective employer.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 26 Jul 2006 18:11 GMT
> The most thoroughly garbled job interview I ever had was the time I
> ran over a piece of scrap metal on the way to the interview.  One of
> my front tires blew out...
> I was on the Interstate highway, going about 60 miles
> per hour at the time.  It was fortunate that I had both hands on the
> steering wheel, as the car fishtailed and almost rolled over.

 [snip]
> I called my job interview site from the tire shop, explaining why I
> was going to be late.

> When I finally reached the prospective employer, an hour late, I was
> still shaky from the near-death experience, having had time to realize
> what almost happened.  I couldn't focus during the interview

If I had been in your situation, I would have called them to reschedule
the interview. I think near-death experiences are a reasonable excuse for
that!

Glad you were OK!

Joyce
Adrian A - 26 Jul 2006 16:34 GMT
<snip>
> I once managed to spill boiling hot coffee over the groin of some guy
> who was interviewing me- another job I didn't get

If you didn't get the job, then he probably deserved it. ;-)
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Lesley - 26 Jul 2006 16:37 GMT
> If you didn't get the job, then he probably deserved it. ;-)

Thanks Adrian perhaps I should go to interviews and on seeing a male
interview casually take out a container of coffee quite clearly
labelled "WARNING; HOT!!" and repeat that story...maybe I'd get the job
that way!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Micha - 26 Jul 2006 17:59 GMT
> And I get the interviews but not the jobs so it must be that I look
> great on paper but I think when they see me in the flesh they think "I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> say when you are job hunting "You have to kick a lot of doors before
> you find one that opens"

What about doing a professional interview training? It is most likely
that they can trace down the trouble spots. Sometimes it is only a
little thing you personally may not be aware of.

Adding some find-a-job-soon purrs from Blacky and Merlin.

Squarely Yours
Michael

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Takayuki - 25 Jul 2006 14:25 GMT
>I'm still here. I've just been busting my onions on job sites and going to
>interviews, and awaiting the phone calls that turn out to be...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>public view? Am I less skilled than the guy who drops urinal cookies in the
>men's rooms of packaging plants? Gackkkk!!!

I'm sorry to hear that you haven't found a good position yet, although
it's still early.  We know that phone sales is definitely not for you.
:)  What kind of work do you think you want to pursue, if I may ask?
Singh - 26 Jul 2006 19:58 GMT
Looking for back-end, processing, operations-type work. The kind where someone can
hand me his big fat stacks of paperwork and leave me alone so i can do his dirty work
for him while he does more lofty things. And I want a bit of variety in my duties so
if I have to have some public contact it can be balanced out with other stuff and I
won't be out of my mind bored. I liked verifying documents for Citibank's wire unit
but had to give it up becaise the unit got broken and shipped to India. Next thing I
know I'll be ordering my pizzas from Mumbai, damn these corporate types. I guess I
just want to be an administrative assistant in training.

No I don't. I really, really want to be a writer. But until then I just want
something that has manageable stress levels and enough variety not to kick my ADHD
into overdrive.

Blessed be,
Baha

> >I'm still here. I've just been busting my onions on job sites and going to
> >interviews, and awaiting the phone calls that turn out to be...
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> it's still early.  We know that phone sales is definitely not for you.
> :)  What kind of work do you think you want to pursue, if I may ask?
Jo Firey - 26 Jul 2006 21:50 GMT
> Looking for back-end, processing, operations-type work. The kind where
> someone can
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha

One of the duties of many administrative assistants is to write for their
administrator.  Many otherwise very competent business types (and most
accountants) cannot compose a letter is plain English to save their lives.

Jo
Lesley - 27 Jul 2006 10:21 GMT
.  Many otherwise very competent business types (and most
> accountants) cannot compose a letter is plain English to save their lives.

Try doctor's not only can't they write legibly or dictate letters which
make sense (My personal favourite concerned a doctor who dictated that
the patient "had ankle pain of sudden onset, which continued to get
worse until she had a hysterectomy"- I know everything's supposed to
head south after 40 but that's a bit much!)

Also they shouldn't be allowed near anything more complicated than a
pencil...I had one ask me which way the document went in a fax machine,
which I suppose is reasonable but then he's standing at the machine
looking at the buttons and he asked me how to start the machine
"Pressing the big button marked "start" should do it" I replied.

One of our radiologists offered me a cup of coffee once and I expected
him to get someone else to do it! When he started filling the kettle I
almost said "Are you sure you know what you're doing?"

I like to think it's because they are thinking about their patients all
the time....through with some of them it's more likely to be their golf
score

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Christina Websell - 27 Jul 2006 23:56 GMT
> .  Many otherwise very competent business types (and most
>> accountants) cannot compose a letter is plain English to save their
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> the time....through with some of them it's more likely to be their golf
> score

Oh, don't start me on this.  After hearing nothing about my hospital
referral for 5 weeks I enquired at my doctor's surgery if this was normal.
Whoops, he had totally forgotten to refer me..

Tweed
Cheryl Perkins - 25 Jul 2006 15:28 GMT
> I'm still here. I've just been busting my onions on job sites and going to
> interviews, and awaiting the phone calls that turn out to be...

> drumrolls please...

> MORE FREAKING PHONE SALES WORK!!!

> WTF?! Am I so repulsive that every managerial figurehead wants to keep me out of
> public view? Am I less skilled than the guy who drops urinal cookies in the
> men's rooms of packaging plants? Gackkkk!!!

> Blessed be,
> Baha

People tend to try to put you in whatever slot you were in before, however
badly it fitted. I avoided applying for anything remotely resembling the
area I was trying to get out of, and became very up front in saying that I
was looking for something different. I'd list my previous work, of course,
but de-emphasize the more obvious aspects of it in the description, say up
front if I got to an interview that I was looking for something that
required <fill in something directly related to new job and only
tangentally to old>.

One job advice person said I was about the only person who told her I was
interested in back room work rather than dealing directly with
customers/clients etc. - everyone else insisted that they loved people and
wanted to work in areas which involved dealing with lots and lots of them.
But I knew that was exactly the kind of situation I wanted to avoid, and I
had to make that clear.

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Singh - 26 Jul 2006 20:04 GMT
It seems to me as if those people who try to put a person in the same kind of slot as
before, have next to no imagination, or just don't read the stuff I write on Monster
and all those other sites. You would not believe the emails and calls I've been
getting from people who want to get me to sell insurance or do bill collecting. One
day I got three from the same agency, three different guys. And you cannot open a
paper here without ads for collectors especially. We have an overload of such offices,
and the average applicant seems to last less than a month. I don't suppose I'd mind
skip tracing for a collector though; the research aspect of it appeals to me, and
seems less mind-numbing than the scripted crap you're supposed to read before getting
a flamethrower's worth of invective from the unfortunate debtor.

Blessed be,
Baha

> > I'm still here. I've just been busting my onions on job sites and going to
> > interviews, and awaiting the phone calls that turn out to be...
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> --
> Cheryl
 
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