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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2006Vino update?
Doesn't seem like we've heard in a while. Or did I miss it? > Doesn't seem like we've heard in a while. Or did I miss it? I posted one yesterday in the Ping Britta thread. Vino is doing well, looks like he's recovering. He lost quite a bit of weight but is eating more every day. He loves to be out in the yard but is spending more time basking in the sun than running around. Being out there is increasing his appetite because he eats every time he comes inside. So that's good. We are watching his litterbox habits very carefully. He didn't poop for a long time but had a big poop yesterday. He only peed once yesterday but I just heard him pee this morning. He isn't drinking as much water as he used to, I hope he starts drinking more. He has really turned into a heat seeking missile and lately he loves nothing more than lying on top of Dennis or me in the evenings and in bed. So far so good!  SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >> Doesn't seem like we've heard in a while. Or did I miss it? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > nothing more than lying on top of Dennis or me in the evenings and in bed. > So far so good! Is this his first winter? Or the first one he remembers? We have the most luck getting the cats to drink with a clear glass and some ice. Or maybe since we can see what they are drinking it seems like more. Jo Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he seems to be doing well. > > Doesn't seem like we've heard in a while. Or did I miss it? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > bed. > So far so good! > Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All > mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he > seems to be doing well. We have about 5 water bowls around the house and 1 outside. I've only ever seen him use the one in the bathroom. In Thailand he used to drink out of the one on the kitchen counter, but here, he doesn't really go on the counter at all. I think he also drinks less because it's cold out. I try to put lukewarm water out because I know he doesn't like it too cold. He likes to lick the water off the bottom of the shower too. We are starting him on 1 month of s/d tomorrow, after that, c/d. I hope he eats it, it cost us almost $100 for a month's food! SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > We have about 5 water bowls around the house and 1 outside. I've only > ever seen him use the one in the bathroom. In Thailand he used to drink [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > We are starting him on 1 month of s/d tomorrow, after that, c/d. I hope > he eats it, it cost us almost $100 for a month's food! I don't recall S/D costing that much. It must be from the long distance shipping from U.S. I know Hill's I/D price kept going out (twice in a year) and they blamed it on the higher cost of for shipping, even though the CDN $ has risen against the U.S$. I was glad to switch to a Canadian prescription diet. But that won't help you in Australia. Is there any Australian made prescription cat food for struvites? Winnie >> We have about 5 water bowls around the house and 1 outside. I've >> only ever seen him use the one in the bathroom. In Thailand he used [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Winnie No, Hill's is it. As far as I know, there is no Australian made pet food, except supermarket stuff. It was $50 for 1.8 kg of kibble and $43 for 24 cans. This is Aussie dollars, which is about 15% less than CDN. So it works out to about $79 CDN altogether (US$70). Vino's not usually picky about food. So now that he's back on the eating track after his illness, I hope he will eat this stuff. We are starting first thing in the morning. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > No, Hill's is it. As far as I know, there is no Australian made pet > food, except supermarket stuff. > It was $50 for 1.8 kg of kibble and $43 for 24 cans. This is Aussie > dollars, which is about 15% less than CDN. So it works out to about $79 > CDN altogether (US$70). That's not too bad. I paid around $48 CDN (including PST & GST) for 24 cans of Hill's I/D. I thought you meant $100 for just a case of 24 cans. The vets didn't prescribe S/D dry, just can for Rusty. Actually Rusty hasn't been given any dry food after his 2nd blockage back in 1998. There is Medi-Cal brand of prescription food that is made in Canada. It has similar versions to S/D and C/D. Rusty was on its Preventive formula which is the equivalent of C/D for a long time. The vet told me an Amercian company, I think it Heinz bought Medi-Cal. But I presumed it is still manufactured in Canada. So hopefully there is no exchange rate or long distance shipping to make the price go up. They are cheaper than Hill's. > Vino's not usually picky about food. So now that he's back on the > eating track after his illness, I hope he will eat this stuff. We are > starting first thing in the morning. It is C/D that I heard many cats won't eat. One poster was surpristed Rusty ate it no problem. Rusty hasn't refused any prescription food yet, except when he was on antibiotics. Continue purrs to Vino from a fellow orange old boy who had many bouts of crystals in his 9 lives. Rusty is most sympathetic. His vet said he has seen many orange cats have crytals. I presume it is because most orange cats are male. He also said many of his patients were on IAM when they became blocked. Rusty was on IAM ocean fish when he first got blocked. I know fish is not good for this condition. Winnie >> No, Hill's is it. As far as I know, there is no Australian made pet >> food, except supermarket stuff. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > hopefully there is no exchange rate or long distance shipping to make > the price go up. They are cheaper than Hill's. Seems that they mostly feed dry here in Australia. The vet said we could just add water to the dry and microwave it, but I'm not buying into that philosophy. Vino likes canned best and eats it most. But I like to have a bowl of kibble down for him to snack on when we're sleeping or away. >> Vino's not usually picky about food. So now that he's back on the >> eating track after his illness, I hope he will eat this stuff. We [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Winnie Argh, I hope he eats the c/d when the time comes. Vino ate Iams for the first 3 years of his life. Once we moved to Thailand, he also ate some Science Diet and a little bit of Whiskas interspersed to stretch the other stuff. He never had any problems at all. All of Dennis' childhood cats were raised on Iams and never had any problems. Vino doesn't really like any seafood food, so I only ever get him chicken and beef type flavours. Since getting over here, I have to admit that I've been only feeding him Whiskas canned, but Iams dry. I hope that wasn't the cause. I heard that the Aussie supermarket food is much better than similar in North America. But who really knows? After he's off the s/d and the c/d, I will no longer feed him any supermarket food. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>> No, Hill's is it. As far as I know, there is no Australian made pet >>> food, except supermarket stuff. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > philosophy. Vino likes canned best and eats it most. But I like to have > a bowl of kibble down for him to snack on when we're sleeping or away. I've added water to dry food for various reasons over the years. Puppies, kittens, elderly dogs, etc. We almost always feed Nutro. I don't use the microwave when I add water. Seems to mess with the consistency. Besides by the time I microwave and then let it cool cause I did it too long it would have just absorbed the water. The last two years of my mom's old dogs life they and fed her moistened kibble one bite at a time. We did have one dog on K/D for several years. She hated it and finally the vet gave me a recipe and I just cooked for her once a week and froze portions. Jo > Seems that they mostly feed dry here in Australia. The vet said we > could just add water to the dry and microwave it, but I'm not buying > into that philosophy. Vino likes canned best and eats it most. But I > like to have a bowl of kibble down for him to snack on when we're > sleeping or away. I want to try that as dry food is much cheaper than can, and the main difference is more water in canned food. But in one formula I like the ingredients in the canned food better. >From my research on urinary blockages, it is better to just feed 2 meals a day. The urine pH goes up after a meal, so the more often a cat eats, the more often it goes up. An acidic urine is preferred to avoid blockage. I also add distilled water to Rusty's canned food to make sure he gets enough water. I adjust the amount of water added depending on the output in the litter box. So I can only use clumping litter. > Argh, I hope he eats the c/d when the time comes. > Vino ate Iams for the first 3 years of his life. Once we moved to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > After he's off the s/d and the c/d, I will no longer feed him any > supermarket food. A poster whose cat won't eat C/D told me she just fed him a good quality cat food. I can't quite remember what brand it was. She ordered it online. He is also an orange cat. The vet told me some cats, like Rusty, maybe just genetically prone to urinary problems. I have friends who never pay much attention to their cats diet, and never take them to see a vet. Their cats do fine and are healthy. Then here is Rusty who I have been careful in feeding him the right food etc. Yet he always have one health problem or another. Winnie > -- > Britta > Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness > overflow. > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > >> No, Hill's is it. As far as I know, there is no Australian made pet > >> food, except supermarket stuff. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > like to have a bowl of kibble down for him to snack on when we're > sleeping or away. As far as I know, the supermarket pet food we have in Australia does have to meet *food* legislation. Ok, the meat is probably the icky bits of beef, pork, chicken & lamb rather than the t-bone steak parts, but its not "mystery meat" from goodness knows where, it is the meat that is considered OK for human consumption. The better brands have a break down of ash, protein, salt, fat etc etc (Even Whiskas and Friskies do) so you can compare the "quality" of the various different foods. Certainly, our supermarkets stock dry cat food specifically designed for urinary tract health, senior cats, "weight mainatence" etc etc, although not inthe cheaper brands. That being said, Shmogg has been fed Whiskas almost his whole life, mainly becaus ehe turns his nose up at pretty much anything else. Yowie >> Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All >> mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > We are starting him on 1 month of s/d tomorrow, after that, c/d. I > hope he eats it, it cost us almost $100 for a month's food! Have you noticed with water bowls, they'll walk past two or three of them to get to the one they've decided to drink from? :-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > >> Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All > >> mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Have you noticed with water bowls, they'll walk past two or three of them to > get to the one they've decided to drink from? :-) Everybody drinks from Bear's bowl. They think Bear is ok, for a d*g, but they really like his taste in water bowls. We leave some other water bowls out and sometimes one of them gets sampled, sometimes by Bear, but the bulk of the water drunk by fur people in this house is from the one big bowl in the kitchen. I change the water in all the bowls all the darn time but this is consistent. I have never tasted the water in these bowls to find out why. A sacrifice for science I have not made. They also like to sniff his food dish before he comes in from his walk. I don't see this as I am walking him but Micki says that they never eat any of it, just stand there and sniff it. Winny really seems to think it is a cool thing to do. Sometimes he does it while Bear is eating, which would be dangerous with most d*gs but Bear doesn't mind. He loves cats and wants to play with them when we see them on our walks. Will in New Haven -- "I have seen the David, seen the Mona Lisa too, And I have heard Doc Watson play Columbus Stockade Blues." Guy Clark - "Dublin Blues" > -- > Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) > Cats leave pawprints on your heart. > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > Have you noticed with water bowls, they'll walk past two or three of them > to > get to the one they've decided to drink from? :-) In Jake's case he walks across Charlie's face every night to drink out of the glass of water Charlie has next to the bed for himself. It is identical to the glass of water he puts on the bathroom counter for the cats at the same time. Jake saves that one for later. Jo >> Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All >> mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > out of the one on the kitchen counter, but here, he doesn't really go on > the counter at all. I think he also drinks less because it's cold out. My two certainly drink less when it's cold. I have one indoor bowl, one outside the back door and the birdbath (which they often prefer.) > I try to put lukewarm water out because I know he doesn't like it too > cold. He likes to lick the water off the bottom of the shower too. > We are starting him on 1 month of s/d tomorrow, after that, c/d. I hope > he eats it, it cost us almost $100 for a month's food! How much is that in English money? About 50 pounds? That sounds quite a lot. If you are buying it from your vet don't forget that they take a huge mark-up. Try and access a supplier on line, if you need a prescription from the vet and you have to pay for it, it will probably still be cheaper. Tweed > overflow. > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>> Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All >>> mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Tweed $100.00 AUD = £41.10 GBP Still quite a lot. http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>>> Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All >>>> mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad he [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > $100.00 AUD = £41.10 GBP Still quite a lot. > http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi Gordon Bennett! More than ten quid a week for Vino's food? That's terrible. It's sort of immoral that food for a sick cat costs a lot more than ordinary food. I can understand why it could cost a bit more, but I wonder if <anyone in power over special catfood> says to themselves "I can make a lot of money out of this by telling owners that their pets will die if they don't eat *this.* This really expensive food is the one that you need." I'm cynical. Tweed >>>>> Put water bowls ALL over. And even some at different heights. All >>>>> mine seem to like ones that are raised about 3 inches best. Glad [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Tweed Well, this food is only for a month or 2. We will feed it until it runs out. The c/d which we are to feed after that is a bit cheaper. Well, the canned is the same but the kibble is about half as much. For some reason the canned is also the same as you would pay for Iams or regular Science Diet here. Seems that all cat food is insanely expensive here, except for the supermarket stuff. To make matters worse, you can't bring any pet food into the country. Here goes my idea to have visitors and Dennis bring cheap food in all the time :-( SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Well, this food is only for a month or 2. We will feed it until it runs > out. The c/d which we are to feed after that is a bit cheaper. Well, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bring any pet food into the country. Here goes my idea to have visitors > and Dennis bring cheap food in all the time :-( This reminds of the time that Canada banned pet food from U.S., probably because of mad cow. I stocked up on Hill's prescription food for Rusty. The vet's office got lots of phone calls on the supply of prescription pet food. Most of the pet food in Canada are imported from U.S. I wonder why you can't bring pet foor to Australia. I suppose that means you can't oder them online unless the online suppliers are in Australia. Winnie >> Well, this food is only for a month or 2. We will feed it until it >> runs out. The c/d which we are to feed after that is a bit cheaper. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Winnie You can't bring any meat in and pet food has meat. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album I'm glad he's home and on the mend! Purrs he gains his Vino-ish figure soonest! Christine > > Doesn't seem like we've heard in a while. Or did I miss it? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > bed. > So far so good! |
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