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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2006Lily made it after all
How about some good news? Lily the kitty did indeed survive her swollen paw and was adopted. The nice lady at the shelter took a moment to correct her earlier assumption; And now I must correct my earlier posts. I was there to drop off high-resolution pictures of Brown Recluse spiders. Dead Brown Recluse spiders. Slow death. I do like the glue traps. Cheers, H. That's wonderful news. HOORAY FOR LILY!!!! She is a very bright, sensitive girl. I wish her well. Cheers H. Wreaking vengeance on the Brown Recluse............ > That's wonderful news. HOORAY FOR LILY!!!! > How about some good news? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Cheers, > H. That really is good news! > How about some good news? > Lily the kitty did indeed survive her swollen paw and was adopted. > The nice lady at the shelter took a moment to correct her earlier > assumption; > And now I must correct my earlier posts. Oh, hooray!!! I'm so happy to hear that! It still makes me sad about Max, but it was much sadder to think that two cats had to die before it became clear what was going on. That's really wonderful news. A hell of a mistake on the shelter's part, though! Joyce > How about some good news? > > Lily the kitty did indeed survive her swollen paw and was adopted. > The nice lady at the shelter took a moment to correct her earlier > assumption; > And now I must correct my earlier posts. Very good news! Hopefully we will see such corrections more often. Squarely Yours Michael  SignatureSquare Dance is friendship put to music Andrea and Michael with furballs Blacky and Merlin More detail at: http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de > How about some good news? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Cheers, > H. I'm so happy to hear Lily made it and was adopted. I'm still of the mind you need an exterminator to rid yourself of those nasty poisonous spiders. The traps may be great for catching a few, but as I mentioned before, if you get some spider coccoons hatching (which you are bound to do), you're going to be overrun. Jill > The traps may be great for catching a few, but as I mentioned before, if > you > get some spider coccoons hatching (which you are bound to do), you're > going > to be overrun. Will the spider-killing chemical have any effect on those cocoons? >> The traps may be great for catching a few, but as I mentioned >> before, if you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Will the spider-killing chemical have any effect on those cocoons? I'm pretty sure it would (kill the spiders in the coccoon; it is, after all, just a ball made from spun spiders silk). The exterminator would have to say for sure. Jill >>> The traps may be great for catching a few, but as I mentioned >>> before, if you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jill Pardon the cross-post, but this might be a good question for alt.consumer.pest-control. H, I hadn't read the entire thread, and didn't know Max had been killed by the fiddleback. I'm so sorry. SignatureCheryl >>>> The traps may be great for catching a few, but as I mentioned >>>> before, if you [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > H, I hadn't read the entire thread, and didn't know Max had been > killed by the fiddleback. I'm so sorry. Cheryl As the vet said, "We'll never know for sure.", but the symptoms were consistent and, after putting out traps and catching nothing but lots of fiddlebacks, I must say all the evidence points to that. I had no idea. You never see the little bastards. My grandson barely outweighs Max. The finest cat I've ever known was a very costly canary-in-a-coal-mine. The only other loss that brought me that much grief was my father. From now on there will be sticky traps about. I recommend it to all in fiddleback territory, which is half the U.S. May yet save a cat out there. Cheers H. You can use a pesticide on these spiders but it WILL NOT kill the spiders inside the egg sacs. The egg sacs will protect the eggs inside from any pesticide until the eggs actually hatch. Depending on which pesticide you use some may still be around when the eggs hatch and some may not. I would recommend a product calle Suspend SC it can last for up to 3 months in ideal situations and is great on Brown Recluse spiders. By the way sorry to hear about the cat. SignatureI wish you all the best Tim Wise www.onepest.com www.askourpros.com Thanks Tim. In the context of my life Max was right up there with my father. He just happened to be a cat. The most amazing one in 50 years of cats. A Leonardo of kitties. And I have grown kids with college degrees. Go figure.... Since this got cross-posted I want to take advantage of the soap box and say traps are a cheap way to do a census. And learn to recognize recluses; Please. They are small and very fast. And they are capable of great harm. I do so enjoy watching them die on the glue boards. But not fast enough: I have never enjoyed grinding a spider beneath my foot so much. > You can use a pesticide on these spiders but it WILL NOT kill the spiders > inside the egg sacs. The egg sacs will protect the eggs inside from any [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > By the way sorry to hear about the cat. > You can use a pesticide on these spiders but it WILL NOT kill the spiders > inside the egg sacs. The egg sacs will protect the eggs inside from any [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > By the way sorry to hear about the cat. Tim, Where can one get this Suspend SC and how do you apply it? Is it very toxic? We have avoided pesticides before now because I don't like to have them in the house, but after reading about that poor cat I feel the need to destroy these spiders any way I can. Thanks, Dawn > Where can one get this Suspend SC and how do you apply it? Is it very > toxic? We have avoided pesticides before now because I don't like to have [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dawn You can get it at lots of the do it yourself pest control websites, also you may be able to find it locally just look in stores such as hardware or building supply stores. To apply it you will need to get a compressed air sprayer, that is a big way to say a garden type sprayer. You know one that you pump up to spray, then you will mix it according to the label directions. For spiders, if memory serves me correctly you will mix 1 oz Suspend to 1 gallon of water. This solution will spray the outside and inside of most normal houses. You will want to spray in places such as behind the headboards of the beds, behind any and all furniture, inside of all closets and storage bins. Under things such as garbage cans or other items that are low to the ground making it dark under them. Basically anywhere that it make be dark and damp will need to be treated. Is it very toxic? That is a good question, you have to understand that this is a pesticide and it is designed to kill insects if applied according to the label directions. Now if anyone gets crazy and starts spraying this stuff all over the place, Yes it is very toxic at that point, but if the label directions are followed then it is designed to kill insects, so what I am saying is if you use it FOLLOW THE LABEL DIRECTIONS. I simply cannot express that enough. If you do follow the label directions you will fill your urger to kill many spiders and will be able to come back here and brag about it......................we will be looking forward to your slaughter stories ;o) Coming soon to a Theater near you The Brown Recluse roundup by Dawn SignatureI wish you all the best Tim Wise www.onepest.com www.askourpros.com > As the vet said, "We'll never know for sure.", but the symptoms were > consistent and, after putting out traps and catching nothing but lots of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Cheers > H. I didn't know the recluse spiders could kill a cat! We've got tons of those (not the brown, but one or more of its relatives: the Tucson, Arizona, desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where did you get your glue traps and where did you put them? I'm kind of freaked out now and think I'll get out the vacuum and go spider hunting today. My daughter would be so upset if her cat were killed by one. Dawn >> As the vet said, "We'll never know for sure.", but the symptoms were >> consistent and, after putting out traps and catching nothing but lots of [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Arizona, desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where did you get > your glue traps and where did you put them? Sticky boards are available wherever pesticides are sold. I bought mine at the grocery. I put them at outside doors, closet doors, wherever I thought spiders might like to go. >I'm kind of freaked out now and think I'll get out the vacuum and go spider >hunting today. My daughter would be so upset if her cat were killed by >one. > > Dawn > I didn't know the recluse spiders could kill a cat! We've got tons of those > (not the brown, but one or more of its relatives: the Tucson, Arizona, > desert and southwest recluses) in our house. Where did you get your glue > traps and where did you put them? I'm kind of freaked out now and think > I'll get out the vacuum and go spider hunting today. My daughter would be > so upset if her cat were killed by one. Hi - before you freak too much, are you sure that all recluse spiders are deadly? I know the brown recluse can be, but it might be good to get info on the kind of spiders you do have before bringing out the artillery. :) Joyce >> As the vet said, "We'll never know for sure.", but the symptoms were >> consistent and, after putting out traps and catching nothing but [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > hunting today. My daughter would be so upset if her cat were killed > by one. As their name implies, they are "recluses". They hide in dark places, like closets, attics, etc. The last time I moved I had some cardboard storage boxes in my closet for storing winter clothes. When I went to check to see if there was anything I wanted to get rid of before the move, lo! and behold! A brown recluse spider in the box. BTW, I saw a guy at my doctor's office once with this HUGE (about 3 inches across) hideous sore on the back of his leg and he was limping. The nurse told me he'd been bitten by a brown recluse. If it can do that to a full grown man, just imagine what it could do to a poor little cat :( Jill >As their name implies, they are "recluses". They hide in dark places, like >closets, attics, etc. I'm relieved that I don't seem to have these. The spiders in my house are definitely not recluses. If I had to name them, I would say that they are "brown gregariouses". :) They rappel down from the ceiling to land on my head, go for rides on my hand as I use the mouse, and hog the covers when I go to bed. http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Entomology/entfacts/struct/ef631.htm One night my wife woke me up. "What's that screaming?" "Max is killing a rabbit at the foot of the bed." And I rolled over. She actually made me throw them both out. Can you believe that? Max ate three rabbits the day before the spider bit him. I have never known a happier kitty. Miss him I do. Cheers. H. >>As their name implies, they are "recluses". They hide in dark places, >>like [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to land on my head, go for rides on my hand as I use the mouse, and > hog the covers when I go to bed. >http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Entomology/entfacts/struct/ef631.htm > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Miss him I do. That is tragic. Fortunately, I haven't seen anything like those pictures, and I seem to live outside its range. :) >> Will the spider-killing chemical have any effect on those :) >> cocoons? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :) :) If the "cocoons" you are seeing are perfectly round they are not brown recluse. BR egg sac will be a half globe, glued to a surface rather than just hanging in a web. SignatureLar It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese. Lar is right about the egg sacs, and if you spray for these, see if you can get Talstar One. The active (bifenthrin) seems to be the best for knocking down these critters. Suspend will also work, as will Demand CS or any WP formulation, but I have seen better results with Talstar than any other. Jeff Sorry to hear about the cat. We have tons of Brown Spiders of different varieties in Northen Arizona as well (Prescott, Flagstaff area). Glueboards are my favorite as a caught spider is just as good as a dead spider. I've noticed that Talstar One or even Upstar Gold work well on spiders. My favorites, though, are Cy-Kick and Microcare because they are a micro-encapsulated formula. Haven't used any other CS but I'm sure they work the same way. What a great thing the scientists have done in producing micro-encapsulated products. > Sorry to hear about the cat. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Glueboards are my favorite as a caught spider is just as good as a dead > spider. I will always keep them out from now on. You get a census of your varmints. > I've noticed that Talstar One or even Upstar Gold work well on spiders. > My favorites, though, are Cy-Kick and Microcare because they are a > micro-encapsulated formula. Haven't used any other CS but I'm sure > they work the same way. What a great thing the scientists have done in > producing micro-encapsulated products. > :) >> Will the spider-killing chemical have any effect on those > :) >> cocoons? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > recluse. BR egg sac will be a half globe, glued to a surface rather > than just hanging in a web. I haven't actually seen any. Just going by what I know to be other spider cocoons... Jill > How about some good news? > > Lily the kitty did indeed survive her swollen paw and was adopted. > The nice lady at the shelter took a moment to correct her earlier > assumption; > And now I must correct my earlier posts. Now that had to make your day, week and month. Max was looking out after her after all. I'm just truly delighted to hear she is well and has a good slave. Jo > How about some good news? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Cheers, > H. Oh good! I'm so glad to hear Lily survived and has a forever home! =o) Melissa > How about some good news? > > Lily the kitty did indeed survive her swollen paw and was adopted. > The nice lady at the shelter took a moment to correct her earlier > assumption; > And now I must correct my earlier posts. That's really good news! I'm so glad Lily made it and has a foreverhome Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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