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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 14 Oct 2004 05:23 GMT
I have seen references in the past to a toy I FINALLY
located!  The battery operated ball with attached fur
squirrel/raccoon/whatever.  I'm having a little difficulty
with the on/off switch - either it won't stay on or (once in
action) doesn't want to switch off again - but Melisande
LOVES it!  And even with carpet, the silly thing manages to
run all over the living room.  Sometimes Melly chases it,
and sometimes IT chase Melly!

For those of you who haven't seen it (or wore one out and
can't find another) you can find it at:
http://www.harrietcarter.com/SubA.cfm?pth=13&cat=15&sr=24
They call it a "weasel ball".

Tons of fun for the entire family - darn thing actually
looks like something alive, since it moves more or less at
random.
Seanette Blaylock - 14 Oct 2004 06:03 GMT
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> had some very
interesting things to say about New (old) cat toy:

>I have seen references in the past to a toy I FINALLY
>located!  The battery operated ball with attached fur
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>run all over the living room.  Sometimes Melly chases it,
>and sometimes IT chase Melly!

Glad she likes it. I once bought one for Felix, and he was scared to
death of it. :-(

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Victor Martinez - 14 Oct 2004 13:50 GMT
I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
gets his little paws on it. :)

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 14 Oct 2004 14:58 GMT
>I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
>good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
>gets his little paws on it. :)

The best toy for my cats, from their point of view, is one which is very
inexpensive.

Take one old sock (one with no holes in)
Put a spoonful of 'nip inside the sock & shake it down to the toe.
Knot open end of sock so 'nip can't escape.

Give to cat

Endless hours of fun as the highly dangerous 'nip sock has to be pounced upon,
stalked, killed, disembowelled...

Cheers, helen s

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Bill Stock - 14 Oct 2004 16:14 GMT
> >I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
> >good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
> >gets his little paws on it. :)
>
> The best toy for my cats, from their point of view, is one which is very
> inexpensive.

Yep, most of the store bought toys sit in a box unused. The purchased toys
the girls like are the little rubber balls. Unfortunately 11 of 12 have been
transported to the Mothership, never to be seen again. Smokey also likes her
lemon (too big for transport). Cali was mildly interested in the 'rabid
raccoon', but only once it stopped. The smaller wind up mice were also
interesting, but the blue flashing electronic one scared the crap out of
everyone. Even the fierce and grumpy neighbour cat.

The favourite toys are string (supervised), bottle caps, crumpled up paper,
empty box the expensive cat toy came in, stair treads, dried plants, etc.
About the only toy Cali will still play with is a 'Big Bird' from Sesame
Street tied to the end of a string.

One night a few years ago we woke up to this huge racket rumbling up from
the basement and charging down the upstairs hall. We thought we were taken
for sure. We were in the middle of renovating the basement and I'd left a
nail and string (plumb bob) where Cali could get at it. She charged all the
way from the basement to the second floor, making as much noise as she could
with that nail. She was lucky it did not catch on something. This was the
first time I'd seen Cali's evil grin, she was quite pleased with herself,
having woken the whole house.

> Take one old sock (one with no holes in)
> Put a spoonful of 'nip inside the sock & shake it down to the toe.
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>
> --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off--
Bill Stock - 14 Oct 2004 20:56 GMT
> >I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
> >good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
> >gets his little paws on it. :)
>
> The best toy for my cats, from their point of view, is one which is very
> inexpensive.

Yep, most of the store bought toys sit in a box unused. The purchased toys
the girls like are the little rubber balls. Unfortunately 11 of 12 have been
transported to the Mothership, never to be seen again. Smokey also likes her
lemon (too big for transport). Cali was mildly interested in the 'rabid
raccoon', but only once it stopped. The smaller wind up mice were also
interesting, but the blue flashing electronic one scared the crap out of
everyone. Even the fierce and grumpy neighbour cat.

The favourite toys are string (supervised), bottle caps, crumpled up paper,
empty box the expensive cat toy came in, stair treads, dried plants, etc.
About the only toy Cali will still play with is a 'Big Bird' from Sesame
Street tied to the end of a string.

One night a few years ago we woke up to this huge racket rumbling up from
the basement and charging down the upstairs hall. We thought we were taken
for sure. We were in the middle of renovating the basement and I'd left a
nail and string (plumb bob) where Cali could get at it. She charged all the
way from the basement to the second floor, making as much noise as she could
with that nail. She was lucky it did not catch on something. This was the
first time I'd seen Cali's evil grin, she was quite pleased with herself,
having woken the whole house.

> Take one old sock (one with no holes in)
> Put a spoonful of 'nip inside the sock & shake it down to the toe.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off--
Karen Chuplis - 15 Oct 2004 00:26 GMT
There are a couple of "beloved things" in the house. One is a big sisal
fish. It's about  a foot and a half long. It's a plastic fish body wrapped
in sisal. It is meant to hang on a door. The body is hollow with rattley
things in it. This is "beloved fish".  Sugar lays on it, wrestles it. Sleeps
with it. It is about as old as she is and since I have never seen them since
(my ex SIL gave it to us) it will be a sad day if anything ever happens to
it.

Grant loves his Wibble Wobble. It's a pink weighted ball with a tall pink
plinth from which a black elastic cord is attached that has feathers on the
end. He doesn't play with it (I gave one to mom for Tycho and Tycho
destroyed it in a matter of days smacking it around). No, this is Grant's
teether. He sits and gnaws on the cord. If I move it when vacuuming, he will
try to pull it out, so I have to remember to set it back out. Grant has no
back teeth, so I assume it is like a gum massage.

Pearl, well, Pearl isn't much of a toy girl, although lately she has taken
to mauling a fur ball that Sugar likes to toss around. Pearl tries to eat
it.
Seanette Blaylock - 15 Oct 2004 15:59 GMT
Karen Chuplis <kchuplis@alltel.net> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: New (old) cat toy:

>Grant loves his Wibble Wobble. It's a pink weighted ball with a tall pink
>plinth from which a black elastic cord is attached that has feathers on the
>end.

Since Ava adopted us, I've been avoiding toys for Felix with feathers.
No point in encouraging him to think of feathered objects as something
to chase and beat up, IMO [I'm also not a fan of carpet scratching
posts, although in our current non-carpeted apartment, that wouldn't
be as much of an issue as in previous apartments].

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CatNipped - 15 Oct 2004 00:20 GMT
> The best toy for my cats, from their point of view, is one which is very
> inexpensive.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off--

My cats' favorite toys are the rings and tops from milk jugs, the plastic
caps from water bottles, etc.  Our house looks like the inside of a kitchen
trash can!!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Steve Touchstone - 14 Oct 2004 19:03 GMT
>I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
>good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
>gets his little paws on it. :)

Same thing here - though it would be Rocky who would rip it apart.
Little Bit would run and hide. Sammy would think it was great and play
without doing any damage. Rocky would pounce and demolish it. When
Rocky first started playing with toys he quickly tore apart toys that
Sammy had been playing with for a couple years. Luckily, Sammy's
favorite toy remains the ever-present soda bottle cap, which resists
Rocky's best efforts to rip apart.
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Christina Websell - 14 Oct 2004 21:48 GMT
>>I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
>>good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> favorite toy remains the ever-present soda bottle cap, which resists
> Rocky's best efforts to rip apart.

I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything inside
the house at all.  They have a catnip mouse (ignored), a feather on a stick
(ditto) and a small ball (ditto).
When I posted recently that Boyfriend had come into the lounge and totally
disappeared someone (sorry, can't quite recall who) suggested I put a
cardboard box in the middle of the floor.  I didn't have one, but BF
re-appeared the next morning anyway.
So I thought to myself, I've seen all these lovely pics of cats enjoying
themselves inside cardboard boxes, and I've never given them one, never even
thought of it.
So down to the local shop and came home with a lovely box 15 inches long, 12
inches wide and 12 inches high.  Puuurrfect, I thought, they are sure to
love it.
No.  It still stands in the middle of the kitchen floor totally ignored.
Why is this?   Could it be because they go outside a lot of the time and
amuse themselves there, and just like to come in to eat, sleep, and relax?
Or are they both miserable so-and-so's ;-)

Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 14 Oct 2004 22:01 GMT
> I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
> like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything inside
> the house at all.  They have a catnip mouse (ignored), a feather on a stick
> (ditto) and a small ball (ditto)... [snip]

> Why is this?   Could it be because they go outside a lot of the time and
> amuse themselves there, and just like to come in to eat, sleep, and relax?

I think so. Playing is all about hunting - chasing, stalking, pouncing,
biting and clawing, etc. So if they get to do their hunting outdoors (for
real, no less), then it makes sense that they'd have less need to do mock
hunting indoors. Which is less amusing for you, unfortunately, but probably
just fine for them!

Joyce
Christina Websell - 14 Oct 2004 22:31 GMT
> > I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
> > like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Joyce

Thanks, Joyce.  That makes sense as there is lots to hunt and catch outside.
I'm not a bit bothered about it not being amusing for me, I was just worried
they weren't acting like a lot of rpca cats.  I'm relieved now.
Zzzzz (BF & Kitty)  It's a hard life, catching rodents all day and wandering
around in some huge gardens and fields...take us away ;-)

Tweed
Karen Chuplis - 15 Oct 2004 00:19 GMT
>>> I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
>>> like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Tweed

another thing to try is put it in different spots. Don't expect them to do
anything but just move it around. Also, when it gets colder they might be
more interested. Or turn it over. They like a challenge.
O J - 15 Oct 2004 00:37 GMT
>another thing to try is put it in different spots. Don't expect them to do
>anything but just move it around. Also, when it gets colder they might be
>more interested. Or turn it over. They like a challenge.

One or the other of mine have to try any box on for size.  My
fluffiest cat, Tasha, and my biggest one, Smokey, are no exception.
One thing you might try is turn over a box that's about 1 1/2 by 2
feet and cut a hole in one end, then cut a hole in one of the sides so
cats can go in but they have to make a turn to come out the other
exit.  This frequently leads to kitty antics as one waits by one of
the holes for the inside cat to emerge. You can also take a toy and
throw it under the box.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Christina Websell - 15 Oct 2004 18:46 GMT
>>another thing to try is put it in different spots. Don't expect them to do
>>anything but just move it around. Also, when it gets colder they might be
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

They can make do with the one they've got, no way am I getting them another
box to scoff at!  I've moved it, cut a hole in one end, put a towel inside
and am now awaiting developments.
I'm not holding my breath, though.

Tweed
Karen Chuplis - 15 Oct 2004 00:18 GMT
>>> I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
>>> good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.

Yes, but one day they will suddenly "discover" it.
Steve Touchstone - 15 Oct 2004 03:56 GMT
>I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
>like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything inside
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>amuse themselves there, and just like to come in to eat, sleep, and relax?
>Or are they both miserable so-and-so's ;-)

No reason to be concerned, unless of course a normally playful cat
suddenly loses interest (which was one of my first signals when Sammy
was sick). I think toys are a learned behaivor. Of my three, only
Sammy plays with toys all the time. LB pretty much ignores toys,
except the ever popular paper bag. Rocky didn't play with toys inside
for a couple months. I think watching Sammy play gave him the idea.
Also, I replaced the stick on one of those feather toys with a fly
rod. So he learned the joys of those toys outside.

As for the cardboard box, that's another thing Rocky wants no part of.
He also doesn't play with paper bags. I think one reason is the time
he was stuck in a trap, so he avoid tight places.

>Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.

If you ever think you've figured them out, they'll do their best to
confuse you.
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Christina Websell - 15 Oct 2004 18:53 GMT
>>Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.
>
> If you ever think you've figured them out, they'll do their best to
> confuse you.
LOL.  I know I'll *never* understand them. They enjoy one food so much, you
buy a few cans. Then it's horrible.  They want their food in pouches,
instead of tins.  OK.  Pouches.  Yummy for a few days.  Then they want their
food in foil trays.  Fine.  Foil trays.
I now have tins, pouches and foil trays which are obviously all disgusting.
Dogs would never do this <sigh>
Give me patience.

Tweed
Bill Stock - 15 Oct 2004 19:56 GMT
> >>Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> instead of tins.  OK.  Pouches.  Yummy for a few days.  Then they want their
> food in foil trays.  Fine.  Foil trays.

This sounds like Cali, who wants her food rotated every 3 or 4 days. But has
a definite preference for dry over wet. Smokey on the other hand will only
eat Whiskas, despite numerous attempts to upgrade her. We used to joke that
this stuff was $10 a bag at Costco for a year's supply. Fotuneately she
prefers wet and gets her quality food there.

> I now have tins, pouches and foil trays which are obviously all disgusting.
> Dogs would never do this <sigh>
> Give me patience.
>
> Tweed
Marina - 15 Oct 2004 05:23 GMT
> I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
> like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything inside
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.

Hehe. Don't hold your breath. ;o) Of course they're not interested in
the box if you went out and got it specifically for them. The box has to
come with something for you that you unpack and then the box is left
sitting on the floor for a while while you admire your new things and
then you turn around and the box is full of cat. This is my experience.
Even more effective if the box contained something expensive for your
cat, which said cat will proceed to ignore while enjoying the box it
came in.

Nobbut, seriously, when we are out on the island in summer, my cats
don't play inside at all. That is just the place to eat and sleep. They
play (Frank) and hunt (Nikki) outside.

Here's Frank in full play mode last summer (I have this as my
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Christina Websell - 15 Oct 2004 19:02 GMT
>> So I thought to myself, I've seen all these lovely pics of cats enjoying
>> themselves inside cardboard boxes, and I've never given them one, never
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Hehe. Don't hold your breath. ;o) Of course they're not interested in the
> box if you went out and got it specifically for them.

So that's where I went wrong then ;-)

>The box has to come with something for you that you unpack and then the box
>is left sitting on the floor for a while while you admire your new things
>and then you turn around and the box is full of cat. This is my experience.
>Even more effective if the box contained something expensive for your cat,
>which said cat will proceed to ignore while enjoying the box it came in.

<grin>

> Nobbut, seriously, when we are out on the island in summer, my cats don't
> play inside at all. That is just the place to eat and sleep. They play
> (Frank) and hunt (Nikki) outside.

I'm happy to think their instincts are met by it being safe to go outside
here, and so much to catch too!  Even though I'd quite like them to play
inside sometimes.  Ah, well.
Seems to be the monsoon season here, the cats have hardly been out for days
except for quick toilet duties.  BF forces himself to accompany me to shut
up the chickens, he considers it his duty. He likes it when the weather is
okay, but driving rain, well he just has to grit his teeth and get on with
it. Bless him.

> Here's Frank in full play mode last summer (I have this as my wallpaper):
> http://tinyurl.com/5ac43

That is some fierce stick!  Bravo, Frank.

Tweed
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Oct 2004 23:33 GMT
> I'm beginning to get concerned about all these nice posts about "my cats
> like playing with this, or that."  My cats don't play with anything inside
> the house at all.  They have a catnip mouse (ignored), a feather on a stick
> (ditto) and a small ball (ditto).

Don't you know there's absolutely NO statement that can be
truthfully made that begins "ALL cats ......"?

> When I posted recently that Boyfriend had come into the lounge and totally
> disappeared someone (sorry, can't quite recall who) suggested I put a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> themselves inside cardboard boxes, and I've never given them one, never even
> thought of it.

Mine enjoy hiding in empty paper grocery bags, but always
manage to quickly collapse them so they can't get into them.
 When I saw a cloth equivalent with the open end wrapped
around a fairly firm wire, so it could be set permanently
open, I promptly bought it.  Do you think Melisande would
even CONSIDER crawling inside of it?  (Another nine bucks
wasted!)

> So down to the local shop and came home with a lovely box 15 inches long, 12
> inches wide and 12 inches high.  Puuurrfect, I thought, they are sure to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Tweed <----still struggling to understand cats.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 16 Oct 2004 23:22 GMT
> I've thougth of buying one for the gang, but I'm afraid it would last a
> good 3 seconds. Fez would undoubtedly rip it to shreds the moment he
> gets his little paws on it. :)

Ah, but when Melisande gets a paw on it, it takes off in
another direction!  (As I said, sometimes It chases HER!)
JBHajos - 14 Oct 2004 13:56 GMT
>I have seen references in the past to a toy I FINALLY
>located!  The battery operated ball with attached fur
>squirrel/raccoon/whatever.  

 That's great that Melly is so delighted with her toy.  We had the
Weasel several years ago and all three cats totally ignored it.  It's
lying here gathering dust *some*where!!  Maybe I'll try it again.

  Jeanne
Kreisleriana - 14 Oct 2004 13:57 GMT
>I have seen references in the past to a toy I FINALLY
>located!  The battery operated ball with attached fur
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>looks like something alive, since it moves more or less at
>random.

oooh, thank you.  Stinky will have one PDQ.

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Margaret Fine - 14 Oct 2004 21:48 GMT
> I have seen references in the past to a toy I FINALLY located!  The
> battery operated ball with attached fur squirrel/raccoon/whatever.  I'm
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Tons of fun for the entire family - darn thing actually looks like
> something alive, since it moves more or less at random.

When I was teaching canine good citizen classes I would use the weasel
ball as a distraction for the dogs for their final test.  Then one day
one of them bit the weasel right off the ball (and failed his test).
Now the weasel (without the ball) is one of the favorite play things for
Oliver.  I can't tell you how many times I have found that thing in the
oddest places like he puts it there to try to freak  me out.  Imagine
sticking you hand in to grab a roll of TP and running into wet fur!

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O J - 14 Oct 2004 23:26 GMT
On Thu, 14 Oct, Margaret wrote:

---------------------<snip>----------------------
>Imagine
>sticking you hand in to grab a roll of TP and running into wet fur!

I don't have to imagine, I know what a wet furball feels like when you
find one in the dark.  I can even tell using just my feet!  Amazing!

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Enfilade - 16 Oct 2004 01:42 GMT
First up, I'd suggest sprinkling catnip in the box (do your cats like
the 'nip?)  Nip does wonders to get ours interested in things.

Secondly it is a matter of personality--Kumani and Tyche will
gleefully wedge themselves into any box they can find, and when their
toys fail to amuse they make their own toys by stealing from Mom and
MomDad.  Nocturne, on the other hand, considers "play" beneath her
dignity and spends her time enthroned on a chair attempting to fathom
the bottomless stupidity of humans (though she WILL, on rare
occasoins, start frolicking with a fur mouse ONLY if she thinks no one
is watching!)  We no longer buy Nocturne toys for Yule since they just
get stolen by the bitties; she gets catnip, her one vice.

--Enfilade
 
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