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Singh - 10 Jul 2006 03:25 GMT
Marilyn became our friend through a chance trip to Petsmart to do our
weekly kitty shopping. We had just (reluctantly) relinquished our
fosterling Brian to his mama Cynthia, who had been away for three months
to prepare for her wedding to a nice fella from the UK, and had come
back for just a couple days to say good-bye to me and Louie and get
Brian on the plane. (Brian, Cynthia and new daddy Iain landed safely and
are very happy.) Stosh, who had a good rough-and-tumble playmate in
Brian, missed his presence; and, as he had his quiet moments too, Roxie
missed him as well. Louie and I agreed at once, time for a third baby.

When we were getting our kitty chow a few weeks later, we passed by the
Tenth Chance display with several large cages full of eager kitties, and
one kitten decided she liked me: as we passed, she ran to the front,
swiped out a fat little paw, and dug into my sleeve. The fates had
spoken, I was the chosen of Brandy. And there was Marilyn, the
foster-mama of little Brandy, laughing at the sight. "How's her activity
level?" I asked. "Oh, she's very hyper," Marilyn told me, "she runs
around a lot and always wrestles with the dog." "Thank GOD!" I sighed,
and asked to put in the adoption papers then and there. A little over a
week later, after she'd been spayed, we took our chubby, seven-month old
baby home, where the little hoolikitten proceeded to turn everything
upside down.

That'll be two years ago in another month, and Louie and I had often
wondered if our Itty Bitty Kitty Committee (yeah right, all fifteen
pounds of her) actually remembers "Auntie Marilyn," as we call her.
Marilyn wondered too, until last week.

We had a big bag of stuff to give for the Tenth Chance yard sale, and
Marilyn called to make sure someone would be there when she came to pick
it up. Louie was home. They spent a few moments outside talking, and
then (so Louie said) they could hear Brandy running to the open,
thankfully screened window. She's not exactly light on her paws. She got
in the window, meowed, and when Marilyn put her finger up to the screen
Brandy purred and rubbed up on it. She was talking to her baby and
delighted to see Brandy remembered her, when Stosh came to see what was
going on. He butted in to sniff about a bit, and had this
cop-on-the-beat air about him: "What seems to be going on here?" Brandy
turned around and said, "Beat it, Bro; I'm talking to Auntie Marilyn,"
and she shoved Stosh away with a paw right up on his nose, so she could
get back up on the window sill. I ran into Marilyn today, and it was all
she could talk about. But when she asked me how that tiny little kitten
she remembered got to be so BIG, I had no answer!

Blessed be,
Baha
Takayuki - 11 Jul 2006 02:08 GMT
> They spent a few moments outside talking, and
> then (so Louie said) they could hear Brandy running to the open,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> she could talk about. But when she asked me how that tiny little kitten
> she remembered got to be so BIG, I had no answer!

Marilyn must have been so happy that Brandy remembered!

Betty was a bit the opposite of Brandy when I adopted her.  She was the
quietest, most reserved cat at ths shelter.  For some reason, I didn't
choose any of the cats that meowed at me, or pawed at me, but the one
that kept to the back of her cage, because I sensed that she was the
saddest of the kitties there.

But when I brought her home and opened up her cardboard carrier, it was
like I had opened up a party favor!  As soon as she popped up and saw
where she was, she was the happiest cat I'd ever seen, with a vibrating
tail, excitedly marking and headbutting and trilling.

I guess that cats just aren't meant to be in cages.
Singh - 11 Jul 2006 02:49 GMT
> Marilyn must have been so happy that Brandy remembered!

Marilyn was walking on air all week. She's a volunteer foster caretaker; this
shelter does not have a central building and relies on volunteers opening
their homes to care for the abandoned and stray cats. She's had so many over
the years and had often wondered if any of her fosterlings remembered. So she
was as happy as a hog in a waller that Brandy came running at the sound of her
voice.

> Betty was a bit the opposite of Brandy when I adopted her.  She was the
> quietest, most reserved cat at ths shelter.  For some reason, I didn't
> choose any of the cats that meowed at me, or pawed at me, but the one
> that kept to the back of her cage, because I sensed that she was the
> saddest of the kitties there.

This is a testimonial to the bond you have. You two were meant for each other.

> But when I brought her home and opened up her cardboard carrier, it was
> like I had opened up a party favor!  As soon as she popped up and saw
> where she was, she was the happiest cat I'd ever seen, with a vibrating
> tail, excitedly marking and headbutting and trilling.

She knew she had found her home. When we brought Stosh, he was madder than
hell, cussing and tearing at the carrier, but when we brought him in and let
him go, he got quite happy and was mewing instead of snarling. This was the
cat who was referred to as Satan with four feet--the little guy who has to
give Mama a purring rubdown every night.

> I guess that cats just aren't meant to be in cages.

No; only in our arms and laps and hearts.

Blessed be,
Baha
Takayuki - 11 Jul 2006 06:31 GMT
> Marilyn was walking on air all week. She's a volunteer foster caretaker; this
> shelter does not have a central building and relies on volunteers opening
> their homes to care for the abandoned and stray cats. She's had so many over
> the years and had often wondered if any of her fosterlings remembered. So she
> was as happy as a hog in a waller that Brandy came running at the sound of her
> voice.

It must be happy, and sad, to foster.  Marina once said that Caliban's
foster's daughter cries every time a kitten is sent away to a new home.
I'll bet she'd like to see pictures of him now!  The fosterer
originally thought that he was going to grow up with a slender oriental
body type, but nope. ;)  Jeanette got attached to one of her fosters,
Maddie, a few years ago, and when she went to follow up later, Maddie
remembered her.  It's all heartwarming.

> She knew she had found her home. When we brought Stosh, he was madder than
> hell, cussing and tearing at the carrier, but when we brought him in and let
> him go, he got quite happy and was mewing instead of snarling. This was the
> cat who was referred to as Satan with four feet--the little guy who has to
> give Mama a purring rubdown every night.

Probably, that was just normal kitten energy. :)
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jul 2006 01:40 GMT
Is this the volunteer who rejects caring people rather than waste time
teaching people better ways of dealing with cats?

Wonder how she'd be as a parent? Kid spills his milk, and she sends
him to the orphanage.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

Marilyn was walking on air all week. She's a volunteer foster
caretaker; this
shelter does not have a central building and relies on volunteers
opening
their homes to care for the abandoned and stray cats. She's had so
many over
the years and had often wondered if any of her fosterlings remembered.
So she
was as happy as a hog in a waller that Brandy came running at the
sound of her
voice.

Blessed be,
Baha
Singh - 13 Jul 2006 02:55 GMT
I can say only that you did not speak with Marilyn.

> Is this the volunteer who rejects caring people rather than waste time
> teaching people better ways of dealing with cats?
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jul 2006 03:21 GMT
Thanks for the correction.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

I can say only that you did not speak with Marilyn.

Stormin Mormon wrote:

> Is this the volunteer who rejects caring people rather than waste time
> teaching people better ways of dealing with cats?
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jul 2006 03:41 GMT
Different Marilyn?
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I am just outside Buffalo, New York. Alexis is housed with foster-mama
Marilyn (the same one who fostered our Brandy, so I can vouch for how
good
she is to her little charges.) She is in Lockport, NY, about 20 miles
or so
outside Buffalo. The shelter Tenth Chance shows their cats at a
Petsmart in
Amherst and they've shown Alexis, but people back off when they learn
she's
FIV. She's a cute kitty, a longhaired tuxie, approximately eight
months old
and healthy as the proverbial horse. Next to no "viral load," to use a
human
AIDS term. (Viral load is how much of the virus is actually in the
system.
Some people have just anibodies and don't seem to go full-blown;
others have
a near volcanic viral load, they're the ones who are full-blown or
about to
be.) Alexis is playful and intelligent, and itching to get out of
Marilyn's
bedroom.

If we can set up a relay I'm willing to help. Tenth Chance is
meticulous
about interviewing potential adopters and will want to speak to anyone
putting a bid in for Alexis. I am willing to help with the $70.00
adoption
fee if necessary. I can arrange for a "phone appointment" for the
interview
and see how it can be done.

This time I want to do it right. After the fiasco with the person who
suggested putting carpet tacks and mousetraps on counters so a cat
would
learn not to jump on them, I want to help find a true cat lover like
you
all.

Blessed be,
Baha

I can say only that you did not speak with Marilyn.

Stormin Mormon wrote:

> Is this the volunteer who rejects caring people rather than waste time
> teaching people better ways of dealing with cats?
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha
Jo Firey - 13 Jul 2006 05:06 GMT
>I can say only that you did not speak with Marilyn.

Liz, please remember most of us here care about you and about your cats.
This is supposed to be or should be a safe place.  If there is a way for you
to block this antagonist so you don't even see his garbage I'd highly
recommend it.

Its already been proven a dozen different ways, he isn't here because he
cares about or is interested in cats.  Just in annoying people.
Jo
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jul 2006 14:39 GMT
If this really, truly, was a safe place.... people would not be
writing evil and false accusations about people. Without bothering to
talk to the accused defendant and ask for his point of view.

While I can't speak for Baha, I can speak for myself. And I think it's
rather evil that you're injecting evil, and meddling. Trying to break
up a friendship. What does that say about you?

Signature

Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

>I can say only that you did not speak with Marilyn.

Liz, please remember most of us here care about you and about your
cats.
This is supposed to be or should be a safe place.  If there is a way
for you
to block this antagonist so you don't even see his garbage I'd highly
recommend it.

Its already been proven a dozen different ways, he isn't here because
he
cares about or is interested in cats.  Just in annoying people.
Jo
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jul 2006 16:01 GMT
The more I think about this post, the more it needs another reply.
More inserted.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

If there is a way for you
to block this antagonist so you don't even see his garbage I'd highly
recommend it.
CY: And why would you think that you know how Liz should run her life?
Have you ever met her in person? I have. How long have you known her,
in person? For me, it's been about five years. How many times have you
shared a meal with Liz? Have you met any of her cats in person? I've
met all four. In person, and several times. Since this is a safe
place, why are you calling names?

Its already been proven a dozen different ways, he isn't here because
he
cares about or is interested in cats.
CY: Well, what is your proof? Have you ever met me in person? How long
have you known me? What are your "dozen different ways"? I'm sure
curious. Aparently, you know something about myself that I don't know.
For me, this is a priceless chance to learn more about myself. How
many times have we met? How many times have you seen me near a cat?
How about you tell me what was the last time I petted a cat?

Just in annoying people.
CY: OK, so you've ruled out any possible other reason for being here.
How about you read the last several posts I've made, and tell me what
percentage of them were sharing information (like carpet cleaning) and
how many of them were supportive (like the woman who can't get any
information from the surgeon's office) and, ah, never mind. Lets not
confuse the matter with facts.

Jo
Jeff Mullen - 13 Jul 2006 07:23 GMT
> Is this the volunteer who rejects caring people rather than waste time
> teaching people better ways of dealing with cats?
>
> Wonder how she'd be as a parent? Kid spills his milk, and she sends
> him to the orphanage.

Dude, you messed up.  That quip about using tacs and mousetraps
wasn't just a minor thing, it set off alarm bells all over the
country.  Certain people got what I think is the wrong impression
of you.

You've written, if I got it right, that you're a caring person who
needs to be shown how to express it.  It takes courage to admit to
something like that.

Adopting an abused cat isn't the best way to learn a better way of
doing things, though.  They tend to already have issues.  Better to
learn from someone like Baha, who has a long history of providing
THE ABSOLUTE BEST care for her Babies.

Send me email off list if you'd like to correspond further.

Jeff
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jul 2006 14:34 GMT
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Is this the volunteer who rejects caring people rather than waste time
> teaching people better ways of dealing with cats?
>
> Wonder how she'd be as a parent? Kid spills his milk, and she sends
> him to the orphanage.

Dude, you messed up.  That quip about using tacs and mousetraps
wasn't just a minor thing, it set off alarm bells all over the
country.
CY: There is a major mess up going on. Part of it is mine, and a very
large part of the mess is the other people on this list. If you follow
the tiny URL I sent earlier, you can read the entire conversation. You
will have the oportunity to read a lot of accusations that are simply
untrue. For example, I can't remember ever mentioning carpet tacks or
"aversion therapy". These were injected into the conversation by
someone else. I sure don't remember writing or mentioning them.

Certain people got what I think is the wrong impression
of you.
CY: I'm pleased that you're communicating directly, here. It is too
easy to invent lies about someone, and it's even easier to believe
lies that were written about someone else. There are not many people
today who go directly to the person and ask "So, what did you actually
say, and what did you mean by that?". I have had at least one or two
people make their own conclusions in the last year or so. It is such a
huge source of pain and evil. The post next to this one is from Jo
Firey. She has written to Liz, to tell Liz what is Chris Young's
attitude and position. I mention this to display the contrast. Between
yourself, who is communicating. Versus Jo Firey, who is speaking with
no authority on behalf of a person she's not met in person. And I
can't remember her asking for the information she claims to have.

You've written, if I got it right, that you're a caring person who
needs to be shown how to express it.  It takes courage to admit to
something like that.
CY: That sounds reasonable. I remember saying or writing that I'm
learning cat care, and that it's going to take a bunch more learning.

Adopting an abused cat isn't the best way to learn a better way of
doing things, though.  They tend to already have issues.  Better to
learn from someone like Baha, who has a long history of providing
THE ABSOLUTE BEST care for her Babies.
CY: That sounds like good counsell.

Send me email off list if you'd like to correspond further.
CY: I will do that. I presume your return adress you used for this
post is working?

Jeff
polonca12000 - 11 Jul 2006 22:21 GMT
> Marilyn became our friend through a chance trip to Petsmart to do our
> weekly kitty shopping. We had just (reluctantly) relinquished our
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> baby home, where the little hoolikitten proceeded to turn everything
> upside down.
<snip>

What a lovely story!
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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