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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2006For the love of ...
I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. She apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually litter. But peeing on my shirt *within two minutes of me stepping into a bubble bath*? That's just cruel.  Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. She > apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually > litter. > > But peeing on my shirt *within two minutes of me stepping into a > bubble bath*? That's just cruel. Seems you've been paid back for bringing her to TED! Be happy that's *ALL* it was!!! ;> SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ >>I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. >>She apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Seems you've been paid back for bringing her to TED! Be happy > that's *ALL* it was!!! ;> Hah! Maybe so. I'm a little worried that she may have an infection. But I wonder if she's just having issues climbing into the litter box because the collar messes with her spatially. For example, earlier today I encouraged her to jump off the counter after giving her the meds, and she bumped the thing on the floor, giving her head a jolt. Poor baby! Tomorrow I really have to go to work. So I need to figure out if I can trust her to wander around with the cone in the bedroom, if I can trust her not to lick her paw while she's in the cage (possible, I've never seen her lick herself in any cage), or if I need to put her in the cage with the collar (in which case I'm almost certain she won't eat or drink, but at least any messes would be contained). I am trying really, really hard not to be angry at DH for staying on vacation through all this. For not just saying, "You know what, this is driving you crazy, I'll come home and we can handle this together." I know he needs a vacation, but ... I dunno. What's the point of being married if you're not making sacrifices for each other? Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > >>I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. > >>She apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually > >>litter. Some cats, including Rusty, do not like Yesterday's News. Guess the texture feel different from the usual clay litter. > >> But peeing on my shirt *within two minutes of me stepping into a > >> bubble bath*? That's just cruel. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > encouraged her to jump off the counter after giving her the meds, and > she bumped the thing on the floor, giving her head a jolt. Poor baby! An E-collar definietly affects a cat. I would think she will bump into things more. > Tomorrow I really have to go to work. So I need to figure out if I > can trust her to wander around with the cone in the bedroom, if I can > trust her not to lick her paw while she's in the cage (possible, I've > never seen her lick herself in any cage), or if I need to put her in > the cage with the collar (in which case I'm almost certain she won't > eat or drink, but at least any messes would be contained). If you decide to leave her in the bedroom, make sure there is no narrow space where she can be stuck. Do you know any cat-sitter? Maybe you can hire one to come stay with Oscar during the day. For me, I don't like having a stranger in my home. > I am trying really, really hard not to be angry at DH for staying on > vacation through all this. For not just saying, "You know what, this > is driving you crazy, I'll come home and we can handle this together." > I know he needs a vacation, but ... I dunno. What's the point of > being married if you're not making sacrifices for each other? You probably feel like a single parent, right? I know the feeling well. Don't know how many times I wish my mother is here to pill Rusty. She is very good at it. Winnie > -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Some cats, including Rusty, do not like Yesterday's News. Guess the > texture feel different from the usual clay litter. Yeah. I brought her regular litter box up, so if she doesn't use that I'll know something's very wrong. I've decided I'll take the risk of having clumping litter -- I doubt she'll be going straight to the litter box after giving her the cream, and her paws shouldn't get wet when she uses the litterbox, anyway. > An E-collar definietly affects a cat. I would think she will bump > into things more. Her response seems to be to seek out tight places and also to stick close to edges, so she'll get "stuck" walking along a wall because of something that sticks out an inch. And somehow she doesn't figure out to move away from the wall. She seems to fine getting up and down from the bed, so really she should be able to handle the litterbox. Little stinker. > If you decide to leave her in the bedroom, make sure there is no > narrow space where she can be stuck. Do you know any cat-sitter? > Maybe you can hire one to come stay with Oscar during the day. For > me, I don't like having a stranger in my home. She hasn't gotten stuck at all. That's one of the reasons I wanted to be home today, to see what would happen. Last night she stayed behind the shoe rack, but I moved the rack so that she couldn't get trapped there by the collar. > You probably feel like a single parent, right? I know the feeling > well. Don't know how many times I wish my mother is here to pill > Rusty. She is very good at it. Maybe, if the single parent thinks the other parent should be there helping! I can't imagine my mom trying to pill a cat. Not a patient woman. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>You probably feel like a single parent, right? I know the feeling >>well. Don't know how many times I wish my mother is here to pill [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I can't imagine my mom trying to pill a cat. Not a patient woman. Well, Oscar is your baby, Right? It stands to reason that you'd feel overwhelmed with caring for her at times. I understand that this is her first illness, right? Whenever Rob was elsewhere, I felt cheated. He was out having fun while I was stuck at home caring for the kids and cats. I would tell myself that getting shot at was not fun, but there was this little part of me that felt that I had it rougher than Rob did. I can laugh about it now, but I'd get mad, then feel totally guilty for getting mad, but still be mad for having to deal with all the emergencies myself. I've never told Rob how I felt, as I always felt bad about it and figured that he didn't need me adding to the burdens he was dealing with, as he missed a lot of the kids' milestones. Pam S. > Well, Oscar is your baby, Right? It stands to reason that you'd > feel overwhelmed with caring for her at times. I understand that > this is her first illness, right? This is really the first time I've had to do anything as far as really caring for another creature. I mean, beyond comforting. Which probably goes a long way to explaining my freak-out. > Whenever Rob was elsewhere, I felt cheated. He was out having fun > while I was stuck at home caring for the kids and cats. I would [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > burdens he was dealing with, as he missed a lot of the kids' > milestones. There's nothing wrong or inappropriate about wishing for a different set of problems sometimes. Getting shot at isn't fun, but neither is being stuck as homemaker with no relief in sight. There are fun parts about being in the military, and fun parts about being a home maker ... all things considered, though, I think I'd handle being shot at better than having to care for children (though neither is high on my to do list). Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>> You probably feel like a single parent, right? I know the feeling >>> well. Don't know how many times I wish my mother is here to pill [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Pam S. That's where I feel I'm lucky. I *know* I've got it better than Dennis when he's away. He's stuck in a camp in Burma with no drinking. The closest town is 20 min away on a dirt track, has no electricity, therefore no refridgeration. He goes in once a week and has a couple of warm beers, ugh. He works for 2 weeks with "Cardiac Bob" the engineer who thinks the helicopter is going to crash and thinks everything is a major catastrophe. Then he works 2 weeks with "Regular Bob" the engineer who is a tad more normal than "Cardiac". Besides the Bobs, there is no one to socialize with except 4 French guys who's English is very poor. He flies with Burmese co-pilots who's flying skills are so limited he refers to them as "seat warmers". They cannot be relied upon in emergencies and Dennis is essentially flying the helicopter alone. He has to take his meals in a caffeteria at set times and his flying often makes him miss lunch. Then he gets extremely hungry and has to wait for dinner. He can make a protein shake in his room but nothing else because any food in his room will attract masses of cockroaches. In the caffeteria they have the same thing every Monday, etc. He gets ill at least once every time due to their crappy hygiene. He flies 4 days a week and that only takes up half the day. The rest of the time he sits around in utter boredom. Compared to that, I'm living the life of Riley! I know it's evil, but I'm kind of glad about that. I've said to Dennis that I would have a much harder time dealing with him being away if he was in some fun place that I'd like to visit too. Yeah, I know, I know, it's selfish, but I just can't help it! SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > He's stuck in a camp in Burma with no drinking. The > closest town is 20 min away on a dirt track, has no electricity... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > refers to them as "seat warmers". They cannot be relied upon in > emergencies and Dennis is essentially flying the helicopter alone. I'll bet Cardiac Bob loves those guys! (I admit it, I can relate to Cardiac Bob. I am similarly neurotic. Which is why I would never in a million years take that sort of job, and I wonder why Bob did?) > He has to take his meals in a caffeteria at set times and his flying > often makes him miss lunch. Then he gets extremely hungry and has to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He flies 4 days a week and that only takes up half the day. The rest of > the time he sits around in utter boredom. Wow, it just gets worse and worse, the further you read in this description. What a horrible job! May I ask, why does he continue to do it? Is he contracted for a certain length of time? Couldn't he do some other kind of work? It sounds really miserable. Or is there something about it that he likes enough to put up with nutty co-workers, cockroaches, food poisoning, and total boredom? Not to mention being separated from you for 4 weeks every few months. (Or is it the other way around - gone for a few months, and home for 4 weeks?) > I've said to Dennis that I would have a > much harder time dealing with him being away if he was in some fun place > that I'd like to visit too. Yeah, I know, I know, it's selfish, but I > just can't help it! Ooooh Britta, that's evil. :) I can understand you feeling that way, though. But maybe there's something in between? Not something so fun you'd be jealous, but there has to be something better than what he's got. Joyce >> He's stuck in a camp in Burma with no drinking. The >> closest town is 20 min away on a dirt track, has no electricity... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'll bet Cardiac Bob loves those guys! I don't think Cardiac knows how bad they are. That's not something that Dennis would want Cardiac to find out, because then Bob might actually go into cardiac arrest and then who would do the maintenance??? > (I admit it, I can relate to Cardiac Bob. I am similarly neurotic. > Which is why I would never in a million years take that sort of job, > and I wonder why Bob did?) I've noticed that people in the industry start off quite normal when they are young but get progressively more neurotic as their retirement date approaches. I guess they figure they have survived this long, something's *bound* to go wrong before they retire! >> He has to take his meals in a caffeteria at set times and his flying >> often makes him miss lunch. Then he gets extremely hungry and has to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > it the other way around - gone for a few months, and home for 4 > weeks?) It's really not a bad posting. We like it because it's 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, instead of the regular 6 weeks on, 6 weeks off that most of the jobs have. It's this way because other guys have gone a bit kookoo from being locked in this camp for more than 4 weeks at a time. But the other benefits are that Dennis is his own boss and doesn't have to deal with many personality conflicts, which is a pretty bad problem on many other postings. Also, he gets paid more money to be there. And it's fairly close to where we live, with only a 1.5 hour time change, so he doesn't suffer from any jet lag. Yes, he could also work in Australia, but the industry with oir rigs, etc, is always going to be touring away. In Australia they do 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. But in the end he would still be away for the same amount of time. And would lose so much money due to losing the tax benefits from working overseas, that I would immediately have to start working full time and then we would *still* be making a *lot* less than what he makes now. >> I've said to Dennis that I would have a >> much harder time dealing with him being away if he was in some fun [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you'd be jealous, but there has to be something better than what he's > got. No, things can only get worse. Sure, Thailand would be great, but as he's already worked there, he won't be allowed back in for at least another 5 years. Nigeria is the next best option but the camp there regularly gets attacked by machete wielding rebels and their quarters have been burned down a few times. Not to mention the hostages they like to occasionally take... Oh, and there's Bangladesh, where they have a 1.5 hour commute to and from work and the town is so smoggy they have to wear gas masks all the time. The guys who work there play games to see how many people they can see going to the bathroom on the side of the road on each trip to work in the van. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > > I'll bet Cardiac Bob loves those guys! > I don't think Cardiac knows how bad they are. That's not something that > Dennis would want Cardiac to find out, because then Bob might actually > go into cardiac arrest and then who would do the maintenance??? Yeah, sounds like he's better off not knowing. > it's fairly close to where we live, with only a 1.5 hour time change, so > he doesn't suffer from any jet lag. I didn't realize that. So your move to Australia from Thailand wasn't a huge amount of distance, then? (Hey, wait a minute - a *1.5* hour time change? I thought all time zone changes were in one-hour increments.) > Nigeria is the next best option but the camp there > regularly gets attacked by machete wielding rebels and their quarters > have been burned down a few times. Not to mention the hostages they > like to occasionally take... Um, no. That doesn't sound like a good idea at all. Does Dennis have any control over what posting he gets? I sure hope he never gets that one! > Oh, and there's Bangladesh, where they have a 1.5 hour commute to and > from work and the town is so smoggy they have to wear gas masks all the > time. The guys who work there play games to see how many people they > can see going to the bathroom on the side of the road on each trip to > work in the van. Eww. I guess total boredom leads to finding entertainment wherever you can... Joyce > Wow, it just gets worse and worse, the further you read in this > description. What a horrible job! May I ask, why does he continue to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > separated from you for 4 weeks every few months. (Or is it the other > way around - gone for a few months, and home for 4 weeks?) Someone asked me why Rob stuck with aviation, once. It has sucky hours, low pay, poor bonuses and so forth. They're air happy. It would be like taking a part of their souls away to take them out of the air. Flying is not for just anyone. Rob once called it the world's greatest roller coaster ride, and all that fun and you get paid too. Just as there is a compulsion, or need for me to teach kids, there is a need for those in aviation to be up there. Not only that, but in the civilian world, the pay is pretty decent. Before Rob was diagnosed with his brain cancer, he had a standing job offer to inspect helicopters at a place in Kentucky, he'd receive $3600/month, full medical and dental benefits, and so forth and he'd still have received his retirement pay. All told we'd have received over $6000 a month in pay and bennies, instead of the $2900 we get now and we have to pay for our medical etc. out of it all. Pam S. > Someone asked me why Rob stuck with aviation, once. It has sucky hours, > low pay, poor bonuses and so forth. They're air happy. It would be > like taking a part of their souls away to take them out of the air. > Flying is not for just anyone. Rob once called it the world's greatest > roller coaster ride, and all that fun and you get paid too. I was wondering if it was something like that. That's why I said that Dennis must really like some things about that job to be willing to put up with such unpleasant conditions in order to do it. It's funny, I'm somewhat afraid of flying (used to be much worse, but since I've done it so many times, I've gotten used to it) - but I can still understand why someone would love being a pilot. Especially in a small plane or helicopter, where you really feel the effects of being in the air. Joyce ...> Someone asked me why Rob stuck with aviation, once. It has sucky hours, low pay, poor bonuses and so forth. They're air happy. It would be like taking a part of their souls away to take them out of the air. ...> Pam S. Pam, You are exactly right about that. Jim was flying (fixed wing) before he was old enough to drive a car. He'd be down at the airport washing the private planes to earn money for lessons. And there's something about those of us who share our lives with these guys. Losing Jim would be losing part of my soul. I get the feeling that you and Britta feel the same way about your guys. And in helicopters, there are too many close calls to count. The hardest thing for me when Jim was in Vietnam was that I couldn't pray for his safety. It was like praying somebody else would die. So, instead I asked that I not be given a burden I couldn't bear. Fortunately for us, I got what I prayed for. Others did not. Even all these years later, I'm sure I would not be able to visit the wall in Washington, D.C., without falling apart, but Jim has been there. You and Rob deserve special credit, because his career was devoted to serving our country. And because you stuck in there, you deserve to share the credit. And you guys (I mean y'all because I'm in the South) deserve better than life has handed you. I know it makes the time you have together ever so much precious. Annie > The hardest thing for me when Jim was in Vietnam was that I couldn't pray > for his safety. It was like praying somebody else would die. So, instead [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > these years later, I'm sure I would not be able to visit the wall in > Washington, D.C., without falling apart, but Jim has been there. You are going to be close the DC soon. The wall is really something you shouldn't miss. And for a monument, it is surprisingly private for the visitors. Sometimes you need to fall apart to learn you fit together OK after all. The proudest hour of my life was a lunch I shared with three friends in 1965, all on leave after basic training. All in uniform. My SIL's twin brothers Navy and Air Force. My BF Army. Everyone I knew came home in one piece. But virtually all the guys I went to school with made the trip to the far side of the world. Jo > ...> Someone asked me why Rob stuck with aviation, once. It has sucky > hours, low pay, poor bonuses and so forth. They're air happy. It [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Annie I couldn't bear it if Dennis flew in wars or other dangerous situations. I was already a nervous wreck when he flew in Vancouver, single engine helicopter, single pilot operation, flying in the mountains where the weather was very changeable and the visibility always limited. Every time he was a little late coming home from work, I'd freak out and start worrying. Luckily this job he has now is about as safe as you can get in helicopters. Helicopter with 2 engines, pop out floats, fly straight out to the rig over warm water, 2 pilots, etc. Same route every day, no surprises, constantly monitored as to his position enroute. I would rather have him be bored in camp, etc, than die in some mountain valley in BC. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>>> You probably feel like a single parent, right? I know the feeling >>>> well. Don't know how many times I wish my mother is here to pill [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > I'd like to visit too. Yeah, I know, I know, it's selfish, but I just > can't help it! I totally understand. That was what pissed me off. I wasn't having that bad a time with Charlie gone, but through no fault of his own he was having a pretty darn good time. When getting him to reenlist didn't work, they took his "job" away and reassigned him to play chauffer to a very nice General. Frequent trips to the White House, etc. Washington DC was my town dammit, and I was the reason he knew his way around so well. It isn't easy to be reasonable when you are lonely. Jo >>>>> You probably feel like a single parent, right? I know the feeling >>>>> well. Don't know how many times I wish my mother is here to pill [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Jo Yes, I can totally see where you're coming from. I would have been upset too. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > That's where I feel I'm lucky. I *know* I've got it better than Dennis > when he's away. He's stuck in a camp in Burma with no drinking. The > closest town is 20 min away on a dirt track, has no electricity, > therefore no refridgeration. He goes in once a week and has a couple of > warm beers, ugh. I know I had it easier than Rob, even when he was in garrison. At Ft Campbell he would be crewing night flights for a week, in the field for a week, supporting another unit in the field for a week, and then getting ready to do it all over again. He spent five years in other countries without his family, missing some of the kids' milestones, and wondering if we'd still be there for him when he got back. He made flight facts five times for various helicopter incidents (not actual crashes, but events that brought down the copter for one reason or another) and dealt with some of the strangest events a person could experience, all the while being bored out of his skull. The libraries at remote military bases have very little in the way of reading material, most of which we already had at home, and Rob once read the same Robert Heinlein book over three times because he couldn't find anything else entertaining to read. A letter from me was a major gift. I think I instinctively understood this as an eight page letter was a short note. Meanwhile, I sat at home, not knowing how Rob was doing, and praying I'd never see that Army sedan pull up to my front door and a soldier in dress greens step out. The kids were fun, a delight to be with, but they were still kids and sometimes I really needed to talk to an adult. When I talked to the parents of my kids' friends, talk was always about the kids and sometimes I wanted to talk about books, places that would be fun to visit, hobbies, and more than just kids. I used to fantasize what it would be like to go to a sophisticated party and not hear anything about diapers, chicken pox, school teachers, pee wee soft ball and so forth. I'm getting silly now, but I really feel that each side wonders what it would be like to belong to the other, and then is grateful for which ever situation they are on. My kids are grown up now, and I don't have to worry about the child stuff. I now worry about them being out too late, and bringing home undesirable companions, the same stuff I worry about with the cats. I can't stick the kids in an enclosure like I do the cats, but moving them out of the house is very attractive. Pam S. > >>I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. > >>She apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully Does she pee on things left in the floor, or is this first-time behavior? If it is, watch her. The *only* time my cats ever peed inappropriately, there was a urinary problem; except for Yoda, who just likes to pee on soft things. Sherry > Does she pee on things left in the floor, or is this first-time > behavior? If it is, watch her. The *only* time my cats ever peed > inappropriately, there was a urinary problem; except for Yoda, who > just likes to pee on soft things. First time ever. After I moved her regular litter box + regular litter into the bedroom, she used that instead. I'll keep an eye on her, though. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > Does she pee on things left in the floor, or is this first-time > > behavior? If it is, watch her. The *only* time my cats ever peed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > litter into the bedroom, she used that instead. I'll keep an eye on > her, though. Rusty also peed inappropriately when he was upset. Many times he peed, and even pooped in his carrier enroute to the vet. They had to clean the carrier for me at the clinic. I am sure Oscar was upset with all that happened to her, plus the 'new and strange' feel of Yesterday's News. Winnie > -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> > Does she pee on things left in the floor, or is this first-time >> > behavior? If it is, watch her. The *only* time my cats ever peed [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > with all that happened to her, plus the 'new and strange' feel of > Yesterday's News. Oscar absolutely hates peeing inappropriately. I've seen her do the pee-pee dance before when she didn't feel she could find a good spot. I have to assume that she really just didn't in any way see Yesterday's News as being litter. When she can't find a litter box, she has done a good job of trying to pee on things that can be picked up and removed. I just heard some rather unusual noises ... poor little Oscar has a royal case of diarrhea. I'm guessing from the antibiotics, although I suppose it could also be from the treats or tuna. I called the emergency vet, and they said to keep an eye out, but if it doesn't persist it's probably okay. Soon I need to give her more antibiotics. And the steroid cream, although she doesn't put up too much of a fight for that one. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Oscar absolutely hates peeing inappropriately. I've seen her do the > pee-pee dance before when she didn't feel she could find a good spot. > I have to assume that she really just didn't in any way see > Yesterday's News as being litter. When she can't find a litter box, > she has done a good job of trying to pee on things that can be picked > up and removed. Such a good cat. > I just heard some rather unusual noises ... poor little Oscar has a > royal case of diarrhea. I'm guessing from the antibiotics, although I > suppose it could also be from the treats or tuna. I called the > emergency vet, and they said to keep an eye out, but if it doesn't > persist it's probably okay. Rusty sometimes got diarrhea when he was on antibiotics. Give Oscar some yogurt if she eats it. Rusty loves yogurt, though not so much these days for some reasons. I give him yogurt everyday as I read it is good for him. Or you can try acidophilus from the health food stores. But is has to be mixed with the food and Oscar is not eating much food now. Purrs that she gets better soon and you can get some rest. Winnie > Soon I need to give her more antibiotics. And the steroid cream, > although she doesn't put up too much of a fight for that one. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. She > apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually > litter. > But peeing on my shirt *within two minutes of me stepping into a > bubble bath*? That's just cruel. > -- But if you were going to take that shirt off & take a bath anyway...? >> I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. She >> apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > But if you were going to take that shirt off & take a bath anyway...? I still wouldn't want anyone peeing on it ... and anyway, she peed so much, and the shirt is water repellant enough, that a bunch leaked out onto the floor when I tried to pick it up. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>> I mean, really. Peeing on my shirt. I could almost expect that. She >>> apparently doesn't believe me that Yesterday's News is actually [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > much, and the shirt is water repellant enough, that a bunch leaked out > onto the floor when I tried to pick it up. But that was the whole point! Some slaves just don't understand their mission. Molly Into non-verbal communication >> I still wouldn't want anyone peeing on it ... and anyway, she peed >> so much, and the shirt is water repellant enough, that a bunch [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Molly Into non-verbal communication *giggle* Of course you're right, Molly. I guess I need to be beaten with a clue by four. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > >> But peeing on my shirt *within two minutes of me stepping into a > >> bubble bath*? That's just cruel. > > But if you were going to take that shirt off & take a bath anyway...? > I still wouldn't want anyone peeing on it ... and anyway, she peed so > much, and the shirt is water repellant enough, that a bunch leaked out > onto the floor when I tried to pick it up. > -- But I don't understand why doing it less than 2 mins. before you were going to step into the tub is more cruel than doing it some other time. Or why it'd be more cruel before a bubble bath than before a flat bath. Did you get preoccupied with mopping up the urine and let the filling bathtub overflow? Robert > But I don't understand why doing it less than 2 mins. before you > were going to step into the tub is more cruel than doing it some > other time. Or why it'd be more cruel before a bubble bath than > before a flat bath. Did you get preoccupied with mopping up the > urine and let the filling bathtub overflow? Because I'd just sat down in the tub to relax, and so of course I had to get out of the bath sopping wet, pick up the soiled clothing, get a start on cleaning up the mess ... after which the bath wasn't nearly as relaxing or luxurious as I'd meant it to be. It's like saying "Why would it matter that your kid decided to throw a tantrum right before you went to a fancy dinner?" Of course you can still go to the dinner, but your mood has been disrupted. It would be nice if I had been even-keeled enough to not have my mood disrupted, but given that I was already sleep-deprived and at the end of my tether, that wasn't terribly likely. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > It's like saying "Why would it matter that your kid decided to throw a > tantrum right before you went to a fancy dinner?" Of course you can > still go to the dinner, but your mood has been disrupted. It would be > nice if I had been even-keeled enough to not have my mood disrupted, > but given that I was already sleep-deprived and at the end of my > tether, that wasn't terribly likely. Not to mention that the point of taking the bath was to *relax*!! (I have to admit being confused by your initial post at first, too, but I thought you were saying that you were *wearing* your shirt into the bath, and she peed on it in the bath! And that didn't make sense, so I was scratching my head about that... but decided I was just addle-brained due to exhaustion.) Joyce > > It's like saying "Why would it matter that your kid decided to > > throw a tantrum right before you went to a fancy dinner?" Of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > sense, so I was scratching my head about that... but decided I was > just addle-brained due to exhaustion.) Sorry for the confusion. The shirt was on the floor because I had been using it as an arm protector when medicating Oscar. Okay, that's not really a "reason", but anyway it was on the floor. I guess I forgot to wear a long sleeved shirt just now when I fed Oscar her antibiotics. There was lots of growling, but no damage. Then she tried to lick the steroid cream off her paw, so back to the e collar. Sorry, girl, it's your own fault. Now we can move on to using the cream once a day, not twice, and we're almost out of antibiotics, too (can't wait!). Hrm. Supposedly there were 15 mL and at twice a day ... how is it we're almost through the supply she gave me Monday? Well, maybe it's not as close as I thought. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Because I'd just sat down in the tub to relax, and so of course I had > to get out of the bath sopping wet, pick up the soiled clothing, get a > start on cleaning up the mess ... after which the bath wasn't nearly > as relaxing or luxurious as I'd meant it to be. Now you get me thinking of taking baths again instead of showers. Have you tried Kneipp herbal bath products? They were recommended to me by a massage therapist. I just love them. Winnie > It's like saying "Why would it matter that your kid decided to throw a > tantrum right before you went to a fancy dinner?" Of course you can [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Now you get me thinking of taking baths again instead of showers. > Have you tried Kneipp herbal bath products? They were recommended to > me by a massage therapist. I just love them. I find that after a bath, I need a quick shower. I sweat enough in the bath that I don't necessarily feel cleaner, just better. My current bubble bath is some generic brand Lavender thing. Before that I think my last bubble bath brand was Mr. Bubbles when I was a kid! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > Now you get me thinking of taking baths again instead of showers. > > Have you tried Kneipp herbal bath products? They were recommended to > > me by a massage therapist. I just love them. > I find that after a bath, I need a quick shower. I sweat enough in > the bath that I don't necessarily feel cleaner, just better. > My current bubble bath is some generic brand Lavender thing. Before > that I think my last bubble bath brand was Mr. Bubbles when I was a > kid! > -- There's mine: http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/lather.html . That's how I happened on this thread, searching for "bubble" and "bath". >> > Now you get me thinking of taking baths again instead of showers. >> > Have you tried Kneipp herbal bath products? They were recommended [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > That's how I happened on this thread, searching for "bubble" and > "bath". What, to advertise your product? I see two posts ever from you on this newsgroup, neither apparently having *anything* to do with cats and both only pertaining to bubble bath. The last one is in 2003. I'll admit this is better than scattershot spam, but it's still a bit rude. If you want to post to this group, tell us about your cats or your interactions with cats. We'll take just about anything from people who do that. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > What, to advertise your product? I see two posts ever from you on this > newsgroup, neither apparently having *anything* to do with cats and both > only pertaining to bubble bath. The last one is in 2003. Actually I'm looking primarily for more people to test on to run up my record of safety against urogenital irrit'n. I look for people who "can't use bubble bath" to prove they can use mine even if they can't use others. Also I look for occasional connoisseurs of bath foams to have them try my formula. MOSTLY I'd like to hit someone who wants to MAKE bubble bath and convence them to use my foaming formula as a base. In addition I look for any remarks about bubble baths that tell me more about what people think of such products. So now I know that people don't like to get out of a bubble bath to clean up cat sissy, but the bubbles in the bath probably make no difference to that! (Or maybe they do; does breakage of the foam on getting out & back in make it more of a loss?) Ever hear about cats DEMONSTRATIVELY urinating or defecating where they shouldn't? I'm assuming that was not what yours was doing. > I'll admit this is better than scattershot spam, but it's still a bit rude. If I can be rude no more than twice in 3 years, I'm doing pretty well! > If you want to post to this group, tell us about your cats or your > interactions with cats. They're a lot better with the introduction of loratidine (generic for Claritin). The long series of desensitiz'n rxs from the allergist I had as a kid helped maybe a little, Nasalchrom helped a little, but loratidine is what finally perfected cats, and even some breeds of dogs, as indoor pets. Otherwise I had to choose between sneezing & wheezing and falling asleep with other antihistamines, and even they weren't completely effective. > We'll take just about anything from people > who do that. > -- But you'll notice this thread has already drifted off the topic of cats into many other directions. But it's far more than made up for by the rest of Usenet, where just about every thread, continued long enough, drifts ONTO cats. They're just so funny. Robert >> What, to advertise your product? I see two posts ever from you on >> this newsgroup, neither apparently having *anything* to do with [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > difference to that! (Or maybe they do; does breakage of the foam on > getting out & back in make it more of a loss?) Well, I personally don't have any issues with bubble baths resulting in irritation ... but actually, yes, the loss of big stacks of foam when you get out and back in again is definitely a bummer. Made up for by the lovely lavender scent, I suppose. Before the bubble bath I had sea salts with no particular scent at all, given to me by a friend. Very nice on the skin. > Ever hear about cats DEMONSTRATIVELY urinating or defecating where > they shouldn't? I'm assuming that was not what yours was doing. I've heard of it, and at this point I'm honestly not sure. She has an injured, itchy paw, an upset tummy and diarrhea from the antibiotics I force-fed her, a topical steroid cream, and a big plastic thing around her head, plus she's confined to the master bedroom of the very large house she's used to patrolling. Let's not forget multiple trips to several vets, including a 24 hour stay in an emergency clinic with lots of barking, yelping, and whimpering animals all around. In her position I think I'd be tempted to pee on my guardian's head, not just on the carpet! >> I'll admit this is better than scattershot spam, but it's still a >> bit rude. > > If I can be rude no more than twice in 3 years, I'm doing pretty > well! Hey, I don't know what else you've been up to besides posting these messages =P >> If you want to post to this group, tell us about your cats or your >> interactions with cats. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sneezing & wheezing and falling asleep with other antihistamines, > and even they weren't completely effective. Eep. My husband had a lot of allergies as a teenager, but Oscar, a long-haired grey cat, doesn't trip them. Other cats do. Go figure. I always assumed hair length had something to do it, but apparently not. >> We'll take just about anything from people who do that. > But you'll notice this thread has already drifted off the topic of > cats into many other directions. But it's far more than made up for > by the rest of Usenet, where just about every thread, continued long > enough, drifts ONTO cats. They're just so funny. Well, true, just about every thread here drifts if you give it a few days. It's just generally considered poor form when your only posts are to promote your products on a non-sales-oriented newsgroup. By posting this response, you've proven that you're not the kind of person that posts, never to be seen again. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Well, I personally don't have any issues with bubble baths resulting > in irritation ... but actually, yes, the loss of big stacks of foam > when you get out and back in again is definitely a bummer. Heh...another advantage of my formula. Provided you splash it up well, it makes a lathery, meringue-like foam you can squish around without its breaking. I made it that way partly because the kids I made it for liked playing with shaving cream. > Made up for by the lovely lavender scent, I suppose. That'll have to be done by a final formulator. I sell this stuff unscented. > > Ever hear about cats DEMONSTRATIVELY urinating or defecating where > > they shouldn't? I'm assuming that was not what yours was doing. > I've heard of it, and at this point I'm honestly not sure. She has an > injured, itchy paw, an upset tummy and diarrhea from the antibiotics I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > several vets, including a 24 hour stay in an emergency clinic with lots > of barking, yelping, and whimpering animals all around. The nicest cat I ever met was in Aug. 2002 at a vet's group practice somewhere between Jonestown & Hillsdale, Mich., where we were taking my friend Nancy's dog Flash. The cat was a blood donor who also served as a greeter for the animals & clients. How nice could an animal be to do both those things? He was like, "Don't be afraid, this place is good for animals, see how happy I am, pleased to meet you." > In her position > I think I'd be tempted to pee on my guardian's head, not just on the > carpet! Oof! I had in mind 2 stories I'd been told. One of them was about a cat my cousins took in who then got between Uncle Adam and the TV he was watching late at night, and defecated right there. That cat (which apparently wanted to show he was boss) was immediately thrown out, never to be allowed back. The other was my friend's sister's cat Pushkin. There was some jealousy or att'n issue, I forgot who or what it had to do with. Anyway, Pushkin, who didn't normally do such things, climbed into Bonnie's open handbag and very demonstratively used both front paws to individually empty it of items one at a time, then stood on his hind legs and micturated within. > Well, true, just about every thread here drifts if you give it a few > days. It's just generally considered poor form when your only posts > are to promote your products on a non-sales-oriented newsgroup. By > posting this response, you've proven that you're not the kind of > person that posts, never to be seen again. > -- It'd be better for me if I didn't! This is how I wind up using many, many hours. A foot in the door, then I wind up staying for who knows how long. Did I do that in 2003 too? I don't feel like Googling it now. Robert > > But I don't understand why doing it less than 2 mins. before you > > were going to step into the tub is more cruel than doing it some > > other time. Or why it'd be more cruel before a bubble bath than > > before a flat bath. Did you get preoccupied with mopping up the > > urine and let the filling bathtub overflow? > Because I'd just sat down in the tub to relax, Oh. You'd left out that most important detail, that it was <2 mins. AFTER you'd sat down in the tub! Go back & read your original and you'll see. >> > But I don't understand why doing it less than 2 mins. before you >> > were going to step into the tub is more cruel than doing it some [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > AFTER you'd sat down in the tub! Go back & read your original and > you'll see. Oopsie. Yes, that *is* important. Just goes to show how frazzled I've been. Last night I got a glorious 12 hours of sleep. I think we're finally to the point where she's not doing crazy things and I can relax and sleep. I plan to do a lot of that this weekend. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Oopsie. Yes, that *is* important. Just goes to show how frazzled > I've been. > > Last night I got a glorious 12 hours of sleep. I think we're finally > to the point where she's not doing crazy things and I can relax and > sleep. I plan to do a lot of that this weekend. Good for you. I was worried about you and Oscar. Have a nice relaxed weekend. Winnie > -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Oopsie. Yes, that *is* important. Just goes to show how frazzled >> I've been. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Good for you. I was worried about you and Oscar. Have a nice relaxed > weekend. I have been ... I was hoping to get out and go mountain biking or hiking, but it's been raining non-stop since Friday night. We can always use the rain, and it's the nice slow kind that actually has a chance to do some good, and it *is* soothing to listen to ... well, I guess it's the equivalent of an e collar for me, keeping me from doing too much. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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