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Mischief - 05 Jul 2006 20:51 GMT
Yes i know i have 3 cats, but tonight we're gonna have 2 bitty
visitors!!!!  I'm so excitied!!!

ok, lemme backup and summarize.

My roomie's family lives in Anaheim and LOVES cats, so much that they
have about 14.  i think 4 or 5 are indoor, but most are outdoor.  How
did they acquire so many?  It's called feeding strays and then they
invite their friends.

Anyway, a few weeks ago, her sister saw this new cat wandering around
and decided to follow her and see where she went. (prolly so she could
plan on trapping her and fixing her, get her shots, etc) and the cat
led her to five squirming bitties.

Well the sister rescued the bitties, but was unable to catch the feral
mama cat and I haven't asked about their progress to catch her.  She
feels bad in a way cause she took the kittens away from the mama, but
she didn't want the kittens to be feral.  She took them in and her mom
and other sister have been taking care of them and getting them used to
hoomins.

Turns out they are now VERY used to humans and are little fluffy
purrheads.  Of course when I heard this story my reaction was "Awww
that's cute, but you can't possibly keep them."

Two of the bitties are coming up from Anaheim to my apartment cause two
of my roomie's church friends are going to adopt them.  I'm so
excited!!!!

I've never had a kitten running around the apartment, since Imp was 5
months when i adopted him and Mischief and Mayhem were adults.

Of course for at least tonight though they will have to be quarantined
in my roomie's bathroom, since they haven't been checked out by a vet
yet.

That's where i volunteered my services :)  I can easily give them a
physical look over, but the main this is a FELV/FIV blood test.  Where
i work we charge $55 per test, which in my opinion is kinda high, and
also i've only been working there for 2 months so i don't qualify for
my employee discount yet.

Also the roomie tells me they had a mild eye infection a week or so ago
too.  Her mom had put antibiotic ointment in the eyes and they cleared
up.  In a case like that, my gut tells me that a vet should check them
out to make sure.

*sigh*  Of course i could just let the new owners deal with taking
these guys to the vet on their own.  But I kinda want to see a kitten
bouncing around with Imp, Mischief and Mayhem going "WTH IS THAT??"

I've made predicitons as to their reaction:

Mayhem is gonna keep her distance.  Imp is gonna hide under the bed.
Mischief is gonna hiss and sulk.

So while the silly hoomin in me is anxious to see bitties running
around the place, checking out the cat tree and watching my kittie's
reaction, i DON'T want to spread anything.  But at the same time, i
don't think i could pay for exams and testing.

I wish i had a baby gate or something to put in the bathroom doorway so
they could see each other. hmmmmmm..........  Wonder what several
layers of saran wrap would do?

Kristi
Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 21:37 GMT
> I've never had a kitten running around the apartment, since Imp was
> 5 months when i adopted him and Mischief and Mayhem were adults.
>
> Of course for at least tonight though they will have to be
> quarantined in my roomie's bathroom, since they haven't been checked
> out by a vet yet.

You'll be amazed what they can get into.  It might be a good idea to
try to bit-proof your apartment before they get there.  You don't want
them stuck behind the refrigerator or something.

> That's where i volunteered my services :)  I can easily give them a
> physical look over, but the main this is a FELV/FIV blood test.
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> cleared up.  In a case like that, my gut tells me that a vet should
> check them out to make sure.

Gotta agree with this.  Eek, I wouldn't be putting anything in
anyone's eye without consulting a vet.

> So while the silly hoomin in me is anxious to see bitties running
> around the place, checking out the cat tree and watching my kittie's
> reaction, i DON'T want to spread anything.  But at the same time, i
> don't think i could pay for exams and testing.

Agreed about spreading anything.  You don't want the hassle or cost of
that.  

Kristi, after going to the emergency vet more times than I can count
in the last two days, I have to say, I love vet techs and all that
they do.  Thank you for doing such important work.

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Mischief - 06 Jul 2006 00:14 GMT
> > Also the roomie tells me they had a mild eye infection a week or so
> > ago too.  Her mom had put antibiotic ointment in the eyes and they
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> Gotta agree with this.  Eek, I wouldn't be putting anything in
> anyone's eye without consulting a vet.

Yeah but to a point it makes sense, since they put Neosporin in the
eyes, which has antibiotics in it.  It's similar to what a vet would
prescribe anyway.  Prolly not the best thing, but it seemed to work.
But i'd still want them to be checked.

But at the same time, i
> > don't think i could pay for exams and testing.
>
> Agreed about spreading anything.  You don't want the hassle or cost of
> that.

Well i just checked with my coworkers, turns out all we coul do at this
point would be to check out the eyes.  At 5 weeks they are too young to
be tested for FELV/FIV.

But that doesn't mean i can't play with them and cuddle them and hold
them and squeeze them and rub their cute little heads.  :)

> Kristi, after going to the emergency vet more times than I can count
> in the last two days, I have to say, I love vet techs and all that
> they do.  Thank you for doing such important work.

Thank you, it can be quite a rewarding profession.  And purrs for
Oscar, I'm sure she's gonna be just fine.  Just give her lots of love
while she's dealing with the e-collar.  :)

Kristi
rrb - 06 Jul 2006 02:36 GMT
>>> Also the roomie tells me they had a mild eye infection a week or so
>>> ago too.  Her mom had put antibiotic ointment in the eyes and they
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> prescribe anyway.  Prolly not the best thing, but it seemed to work.
> But i'd still want them to be checked.

She'll be lucky if she didn't blind them. Antibiotics meant for eyes are
buffered just for that purpose.  I would recommend that at least a vet
or even better perhaps a veterinary ophthalmologist check their eyes as
they might have vision problems now.

have fun with the kits.

rrb
Mischief - 06 Jul 2006 02:44 GMT
They do not appear to be having any vision problems, but i will advise
against any more 'home treatment' if the need should arise.

Kristi

> >>> Also the roomie tells me they had a mild eye infection a week or so
> >>> ago too.  Her mom had put antibiotic ointment in the eyes and they
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>
> rrb
rrb - 06 Jul 2006 03:00 GMT
> They do not appear to be having any vision problems, but i will advise
> against any more 'home treatment' if the need should arise.

Did you check for eye damage specifically or have the proper equipment
to do so? If not then HOW would you know? I still recommend a vet check
for their eyes as they probably have at least minor eye burning.  I'm
sorry if this is taken wrong by you but it sounds like your guessing.
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Jul 2006 03:10 GMT
>> They do not appear to be having any vision problems, but i will
>> advise against any more 'home treatment' if the need should arise.
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> minor eye burning.  I'm sorry if this is taken wrong by you but it
> sounds like your guessing.

Well, she's a vet tech, so her guess is probably better than most.

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Mischief - 06 Jul 2006 03:24 GMT
Well i'm not a vet, and i still have a ton to learn.  I'm just basing
my judgements on what my roommate has told me.

Kristi
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Jul 2006 03:36 GMT
> Well i'm not a vet, and i still have a ton to learn.  I'm just
> basing my judgements on what my roommate has told me.

Yeah, but most of us here haven't had the formal education in animal
health that you have.  Not to say you're infallible, but you do have a
pretty good idea about basic health care, and as you said, you haven't
even seen them yet, so I certainly wouldn't expect you to have a
complete diagnosis!

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Mischief - 06 Jul 2006 03:22 GMT
No I do not have any sort of equipment, and i have not even seen these
kittens yet.

I'm only relaying what my roommate told me that her mother did.  And
apparently the kitten's eyes have been 'cleared' of the infection and
their vision is fine.

If there had been some sort of reaction to the neosporin, it would have
been noticable in the first few days.  Excessive tearing, the kittens
would have been pawing at the eyes, etc.  Since nothing like that has
been reported to me, i can safely assume that their eyes are ok.  The
only reason why I would reccomend a vet exam is so the vet can check to
see if there is any lingering infection.

When I spoke to my roommate this afternoon, she said they were jumping
and crawling all over the place.

And when they get here, i'm going to give them a physical exam and
check out the eyes myself.

Kristi
> > They do not appear to be having any vision problems, but i will advise
> > against any more 'home treatment' if the need should arise.
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> for their eyes as they probably have at least minor eye burning.  I'm
> sorry if this is taken wrong by you but it sounds like your guessing.
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Jul 2006 03:25 GMT
> Well i just checked with my coworkers, turns out all we coul do at
> this point would be to check out the eyes.  At 5 weeks they are too
> young to be tested for FELV/FIV.
>
> But that doesn't mean i can't play with them and cuddle them and
> hold them and squeeze them and rub their cute little heads.  :)

I would say you have a *moral obligation* to do so *big grin*

Five weeks is very young indeed.  Oscar was just a puffball at 10
weeks.  I do remember even smaller kittens when I was a kid, but they
weren't really much fun.  At 10 weeks Oscar was a regular hoolikitten
already, well, after she was treated for her tummy problems.

Did you do much with pediatric cases when you were in school?

>> Kristi, after going to the emergency vet more times than I can
>> count in the last two days, I have to say, I love vet techs and all
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> Oscar, I'm sure she's gonna be just fine.  Just give her lots of
> love while she's dealing with the e-collar.  :)

I'm trying!  Didn't even get mad at her about peeing on my shirt.  (It
helps that it's a shirt I almost never wear, that I was using when
having to give her meds since it has thick poofy sleeves.)  Just said
"Oscar" in a disappointed, not sharp, voice.  I can't imagine she was
thrilled about it, either.  In her kitty head, though, Yesterday's
News just isn't litter, I guess.  (And my shirt is??  What it is is
nice and soft. Wonder if she could have also gotten a UTI ... *worry,
worry*)

I took her collar off for a little while since I'm here and awake to
supervise (oh sh.t, just realized I forgot to specify decaf when I
ordered that latte, no wonder I'm awake!).  We had a few little
discussions about her paw, but now she is dozing on the ped,
well-behaved.  I half-suspect that she is biding her time and trying
to lull me into a false sense of security so that she can go to town
on the paw.  Eventually I'll need to give her her meds, but she's so
peaceful right now ...

I guess the vet must have gotten most of the irritant out, or she
would probably not be able to sleep so well.

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Mischief - 06 Jul 2006 04:59 GMT
> Did you do much with pediatric cases when you were in school?

eh.......we kinda touched a few bases on that subject but not much.  I
know for really small one they need to be bottle fed and stuff but i
really don't know how to care for them.

One thing i've learn that even with everything i learned in school,
about 80% of everything comes into play when the case is on the plate.
For example I've learned about Barium series(for x-rays) but it wasn't
until three weeks ago that i actually got to watch barium being
administered and learned some things about it.  For example, if the doc
tells you to give 10 cc Barium with 10 cc water, add an extra cc or so
to the syringe cause your animal is going to spit up.  Also not only do
you have to wrap the pet in a towel to prevent barium from getting all
over the place, you also have to make sure the mouth gets wipes well
too, since barium ANYWHERE will show up.

> thrilled about it, either.  In her kitty head, though, Yesterday's
> News just isn't litter, I guess.  (And my shirt is??  What it is is
> nice and soft. Wonder if she could have also gotten a UTI ... *worry,
> worry*)

STOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPSTOPSTOP!!! You're gonna get yourself into a
frenzy if you start thinking things like that.  So *smack* knock it
off!  :P

> I took her collar off for a little while since I'm here and awake to
> supervise
>
> I guess the vet must have gotten most of the irritant out, or she
> would probably not be able to sleep so well.

she'll be fine.  I know where you are coming from.  there there

Kristi
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Jul 2006 05:18 GMT
> One thing i've learn that even with everything i learned in school,
> about 80% of everything comes into play when the case is on the
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> barium from getting all over the place, you also have to make sure
> the mouth gets wipes well too, since barium ANYWHERE will show up.

That makes sense.  I know it's true for my major, Comp Sci.  I learned
far more in my first couple of years working than I ever did in class,
but I probably needed the classes first to get to the point where I
would make good use of what I learned on the job.

> STOPITSTOPITSTOPITSTOPSTOPSTOP!!! You're gonna get yourself into a
> frenzy if you start thinking things like that.  So *smack* knock it
> off!  :P

Oh, fine!  Besides, I just saw her take a nice big leak in her normal
litter box, which I brought up from the basement.  So she must be
feeling okay.  (And probably has clumping litter all over her paw,
which I just covered in ointment *sigh* ...

> she'll be fine.  I know where you are coming from.  there there

Thank you.  I was on the phone with my neighbor, who has been very
helpful and understanding and even tried to help me get the sock on
Oscar's paw, and today she said something about how, honestly, she
thought I was stressing way too much.  She would just have left the
collar on from the start and let the cat deal.  Same with food and
water -- sure she'll eat if she's hungry enough.

I think that comes from being a mom.  She has had to deal with far
more crises, deal out far more tough love, and allow far more
suffering for their own good than I have.  This is pretty much the
first time since I first got Oscar that I've had to do anything to her
she *really* didn't like, on an ongoing basis.  It's heart breaking
for me, but I guess if you have to do it all the time, you get used to
it.

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Adrian A - 05 Jul 2006 21:42 GMT
> Yes i know i have 3 cats, but tonight we're gonna have 2 bitty
> visitors!!!!  I'm so excitied!!!
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>
> Kristi

Congratulations on your soon to arrive bitties. As for your predictions,
when it comes to cats you're almost guarenteed to be wrong. ;-)
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