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CatNipped - 05 Jul 2006 00:05 GMT I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there).
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Shirley - 05 Jul 2006 00:17 GMT >I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does >anyone here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would >appreciate some purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have >an appointment with a temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling >well enough and can make it home in time to get dressed and go back >across half the city to get there). Purrs for your test to be ok.
It's a long, long time since I had one, but what I can remember is being given 2 drinks (one thick consistency and one thin). I can't remeber which I was given first but for one they scanned/x-rayed me as I swallowed it and for the second one I was x-rayed in various positions, standing, laying flat and with my head lower than my feet. I felt fine afterwards though going to the bathroom for a couple of days afterwards was...hmm...shall we say 'colourful'.
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sriddles@aol.com - 05 Jul 2006 00:29 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here > know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > CatNipped If it's the same one I had a few years back, they just give you some chalky stuff (well, they tell you it's strawberry flavored, but honestly. It's not totally nasty, but not good either)..and take x-rays. I don't remember being sick over it at all. Hope it goes well for you. Good luck.
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mlbriggs - 05 Jul 2006 00:35 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here > know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs > to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a temp > agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in > time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there).
FYI It is like drinking a chalky milkshake. Then they watch it travel through your digestive system. In the old days they used fluoroscope - don't know what they do today, maybe pictures). It all works out in the end. Best wishes for a good result. MLB
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If they have orange flavor take it
You should be able to go home as soon as the test is finished. Some people feel a little sickly for a few hours afterwards. You can eat normally straight after any barium test. The barium may make you constipated. Therefore, to help prevent constipation: Have lots to drink for a day or so to flush the barium out of your gut. Eat plenty of fruit for a day or so. See your doctor if you haven't passed any (stools) after three or four days. The barium will make your faeces white or pale until it has all come out of your gut (after a day or so). If you had an injection to relax the muscles in your stomach, it may can cause some blurring of your vision for an hour or so. If this happens it is best not to drive Tell your doctor if you have insulin-dependent diabetes, so that you can arrange for the best time for you to stop eating and for the test to be done.
>I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone >here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some >purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a >temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it >home in time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 00:50 GMT > The barium may make you constipated. Therefore, to help prevent > constipation: What about an OTC stool softener, would that help? I had to laugh when that was prescribed as part of my pre-colonoscopy routine; the last thing I could ever imagine needing at that point was a stool softener! Still not sure what that was all about. Maybe I'll remember to ask eventually.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 00:48 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does > anyone here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would > appreciate some purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have > an appointment with a temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling > well enough and can make it home in time to get dressed and go back > across half the city to get there). Purrs for both. I don't know what that is, so I don't know if it's reasonable to go to an interview-tpe appointment afterwards. If you're not feeling your best, I'd definitely ask to reschedule.
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Kreisleriana - 05 Jul 2006 01:06 GMT >I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here >know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs >to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a temp >agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in >time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). You swallow some gunk that makes your digestive system "light up"-- well, sort of. They X-ray it traveling through you to make sure your piping is all in good order. I think people react very individually to the barium-- I was good for nothing pretty much for the rest of the day after I did it, but other people go right about their business. Purring for your day to go smoothly-- no pun intended.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Jul 2006 08:02 GMT > You swallow some gunk that makes your digestive system "light up"-- > well, sort of. They X-ray it traveling through you to make sure your > piping is all in good order. Question: why do people get colonoscopies if you can get this instead? This sounds a lot less invasive.
My doctor prescribed a barium something or other (enema? or the stuff you drink, I'm not sure), because although I had a flexible sigmoidography a couple of months ago, that only lets the doctor see about half your colon, whereas the barium thingie lets you see all of it. I don't know why she chose that rather than a colonoscopy. Should I be glad of this? Am I getting the best exam possible?
I'm not symptomatic in any way, this is just preventive.
Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 08:26 GMT > > You swallow some gunk that makes your digestive system "light > > up"-- well, sort of. They X-ray it traveling through you to make [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'm not symptomatic in any way, this is just preventive. Well, you need the colonoscopy to get biopsies. I remember reading that various non-invasive techniques are less effective than a colonoscopy for detecting IBD/IBS type problems, but I don't know if that extends to other concerns as well.
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Irulan - 05 Jul 2006 01:57 GMT Purrs and prayers for everthing.
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>I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone >here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some >purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a >temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it >home in time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). Cheryl - 05 Jul 2006 02:08 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does > anyone here know what that is and what I should expect?) and > would appreciate some purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. > Also, I have an appointment with a temp agency in the afternoon > (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in time to get > dressed and go back across half the city to get there). Purrs for both hon.
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Jo Firey - 05 Jul 2006 02:54 GMT >I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone >here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some >purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a >temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it >home in time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). The stuff I had to swallow for my cat scan a few weeks ago really wasn't all that foul, especially compared to the stuff 30 years ago.
It was two large glasses of slightly chalky flavored stuff. As I told another lady who was there with me, "just drink it".
No point in overthinking it. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. And if you've already had stomach surgery, I'm sure you've been through worse.
Ask ahead if the are going to do an iodine contrast that involves an IV. If you are a difficult stick you don't want some amateur trying to start that on you in mid test.
Why not take an overnight case and change somewhere in town? Surely there is somewhere you are getting the test that you could dress and fix make-up once you are done. Then you might have saved enough time to have lunch or a movie or some sort of treat which I'm thinking you deserve by now.
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CatNipped - 05 Jul 2006 03:26 GMT >>I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone >>here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It was two large glasses of slightly chalky flavored stuff. As I told > another lady who was there with me, "just drink it". I had the CT scan done Friday, and since I'm alergic to IVP dyes (iodine) they made me drink the contrast gunk (if the doctor had only alerted them to my allergy they could have "premedicated" me the night before and then right before the test with Benadryl so I wouldn't have had to drink the gunky stuff). I'm thinking the "barium swallow" may be different than that though.
> No point in overthinking it. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. And if you've > already had stomach surgery, I'm sure you've been through worse. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > once you are done. Then you might have saved enough time to have lunch or > a movie or some sort of treat which I'm thinking you deserve by now. I might just do that, just to make the interview. The test is scheduled for 9:00AM, which in medical-speak means actually around 10:30AM - 11:00AM, and my "interview" is at 1:30PM - and they are across town from both my home and each other!
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> Jo > > Jo Jo Firey - 05 Jul 2006 04:27 GMT Oops. I forgot the purrs and hugs and well wishes.
Specific wish that doctors get exactly the right information from the tests to provide exactly the right diagnosis and treatment.
If I live to hear one more time "when we opened you up we were really surprise by the extent..."
They do enough tests to take you apart and put you back together like a Lego set and are still surprised?
So extra purrs and hugs for the tests to provide the right information and for all problems to be solved easily and properly.
Jo
>>>I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone >>>here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> >> Jo Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 08:24 GMT > They do enough tests to take you apart and put you back together > like a Lego set and are still surprised? Further evidence of the amazing variety and capability of the human body.
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Victor Martinez - 05 Jul 2006 03:40 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here Lots of purrs.
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> I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does > anyone here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would > appreciate some purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have > an appointment with a temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling > well enough and can make it home in time to get dressed and go back > across half the city to get there). Takayuki - 05 Jul 2006 05:04 GMT >I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here >know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs >to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a temp >agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in >time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). Purrs for your barium swallow, although I've never had one so can't help. And purrs for the temp agency - you want to switch to contract work?
CatNipped - 05 Jul 2006 13:16 GMT >>I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone >>here [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > help. And purrs for the temp agency - you want to switch to contract > work? Right now, I'd take *ANYTHING* that would get me out of where I am and still let me pay my mortgage (forget the other bills, I'm desperate)! I'm the main breadwinner in my household and I *HAVE* to work (Ben does help desk support, but they never give him a full 40 hour week and they pay him beans!).
I've been asking agencies for temp-to-hire, but if I have to take contract work, then I'd rather it be long-term contracts so I can get on my feet and find something permanent.
All I know is I'm either going to quit this place before my blood pressure gives me a stroke or heart attack, or he's going to fire me for refusing to spend my own money to go take certification testing ($250 per test and I need to pass 5 of them for certification) for software development (which I don't do, never have done, and don't *WANT* to do) - and for which he is unwilling to pay for my training. He will only reimburse me for the tests if I pass them (and there's no way I can pass an MCSD/MCAD test without some hands-on training) - so I'd be out $250 right at a time when I can't afford pantyhose!!!
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bobblespin - 05 Jul 2006 14:06 GMT > Right now, I'd take *ANYTHING* that would get me out of where I am and > still let me pay my mortgage (forget the other bills, I'm desperate)! [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > CatNipped I've been doing temp work, by choice, since 1990 and have never regretted leaving my 17 year job to do it (the stress of getting everybody's work because I did it better got to me). I find it wonderful to be able to leave a job if I don't like it, or staying longer when I like it. It may pay a little less than a permanent job, but the freedom and lack of migraines is worth every penny. I've been offered jobs many times since then when they discover I'm a good worker, but I've always turned them down, to their amazement. This is one of the best ways of getting a permanent job though - you get to try it out and if they offer you the job, you already know what you're in for. Lots of purrs for your test and interview.
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CatNipped - 05 Jul 2006 18:46 GMT >> Right now, I'd take *ANYTHING* that would get me out of where I am and >> still let me pay my mortgage (forget the other bills, I'm desperate)! [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > and if they offer you the job, you already know what you're in for. > Lots of purrs for your test and interview. Thanks for the advice - I'm probably going to have to do that since not many companies will just hire someone off the street anyway (they also want to "test run" and employee before sinking tons into benefits). The only problem I've found with that is lack of medical insurance (or *very* high costs for medical insurance when the temp agency itself offers it).
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> Bobble > > ----------------- > Sonny's web page http://web.ncf.ca/ai151/index2.html Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 20:33 GMT > Thanks for the advice - I'm probably going to have to do that since > not many companies will just hire someone off the street anyway > (they also want to "test run" and employee before sinking tons into > benefits). The only problem I've found with that is lack of medical > insurance (or *very* high costs for medical insurance when the temp > agency itself offers it). You know, eventually I want to become a software architect rather than "just" an engineer, and I have a strong suspicion that at a certain point, it is much easier to find contract specialty work than to find a full time position. For example, I would prefer to work at a small company (not 8 people, necessarily, but not 1000), and they don't really need a full time software architect.
While I was looking for a job, I met with a head hunter who specialized in that kind of contract work, and it actually sounded pretty good. Not something I want at the moment, but maybe in the future, as my skills exceed something most companies would want to pay for full time ...
Just a thought. Maybe you've outskilled the full time market. Contracts aren't all bad; they typically pay more to compensate for the fact that you don't know if you'll get work after. So if you can discipline yourself to put away a chunk for a rainy day ...
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Enfilade - 05 Jul 2006 14:38 GMT > All I know is I'm either going to quit this place before my blood pressure > gives me a stroke or heart attack, or he's going to fire me for refusing to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > hands-on training) - so I'd be out $250 right at a time when I can't afford > pantyhose!!! It amazes me that that is legal...you had the qualifications to get the job, now he says you need new ones, for something you don't work in, and you have to pay for it yourself. It sounds to me like he is trying to antagonize you until you quit.
IS that legal for him to do?
Anyway, I know that a barium swallow isn't as precise as a -scopy, and though I had a barium swallow for my ulcers, the next step was putting a camera-tube down my throat for a look around. I probably should've had it done, but didn't, since you're conscious for it and I have the gag reflex from hell. If I've thrown up just from brushing my back teeth, could I really tolerate a tube down my throat into my tummy?
(Yes, I still brush my back teeth. Just quickly. And carefully. And with breaks between teeth. And with a lot of water before and after I go back there.)
I'm glad you're already gone Lori, because my barium swallow had no flavour, was super nasty and I had to chug it. Doing this when you can't keep normal food down, well, the tech is really lucky is all I can say.
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Katrina - 05 Jul 2006 17:24 GMT <snip>
> Anyway, I know that a barium swallow isn't as precise as a -scopy, and > though I had a barium swallow for my ulcers, the next step was putting [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > can't keep normal food down, well, the tech is really lucky is all I > can say. This is why I didn't reply to Lori's post myself... I also have the gag reflex from hell (complete with the same problem brushing my back teeth). My dentist has notes in BIG letters on my chart. The dental techs are warned NOT to move the vacuum and water thingies around in my mouth and to watch me carefully for any sign that I'm going to gag. During the barium swallow, I actually spewed the chalky stuff all over their machine... I *warned* the techs, but they didn't believe me. Oh, well, once they cleaned the machine off, they covered it with plastic to finish the test. The test itself wasn't so bad *except* for the gagging part. Hopefully Lori's will go smoothly.
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CatNipped - 05 Jul 2006 18:58 GMT >> All I know is I'm either going to quit this place before my blood >> pressure [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > IS that legal for him to do? I don't know. He's a "small business" owner with only about 8 employees, so he slides by a lot of federal regulations. I don't *think* he can outright fire me for this - but I'm going to find out by "pushing" back by just not taking the test*. I found out Monday that he recently bought out another business that does web hosting and they come with their own web development team. He obviously doesn't need me as a web developer so I think he's trying to either 1) push me into doing software development and selling what I create or 2) if he can't get me to do that then he's trying to force me to quit so he won't have to pay unemployment (did you guys know that your former employer pays this??? - kind of an incentive for them to find reason to outright fire someone instead of laying them off if their job becomes redundant!!!!).
*When he was pushing me to take the certification test and I told him I didn't know it well enough and wanted some training he said "I can't afford to spend $3,000 to send you to class when I've already spent thousands of dollars training you". Well those "thousands of dollars", unless he's counting my actual salary, are in fact only $399.95 for *ALL* the courses they offer (http://www.staffkit.com/) for an entire year (and he didn't use the small business deal, he bought it only for himself and then gave out his user id and password to all his employees so we could *ALL* be "trained").
This guy is a real piece of work and right now I'm just willing to take *ANYTHING* just to get away from there (and the 1.5 hour commute and all the other sh*t he's slinging at me right now).
> Anyway, I know that a barium swallow isn't as precise as a -scopy, and > though I had a barium swallow for my ulcers, the next step was putting [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > --Fil Thanks, I'm going to start another thread about the testing that I just had.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 20:28 GMT > for an entire year (and he didn't use the small business deal, he > bought it only for himself and then gave out his user id and > password to all his employees so we could *ALL* be "trained"). Hey, it's not illegal for you to blow the whistle, is it?
I'm pondering exactly how I would want to tell him, "Look, Mr. Dickweed, if you don't treat me with respect and have some consideration for my health, I'm going to mention just a few of the shady things you've done to this training company (and I'm sure there's more if there's that one).
If he's doing that, what's the likelihood the computers at work have licensed copies of whatever programs the employees are using?
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Takayuki - 06 Jul 2006 02:41 GMT >All I know is I'm either going to quit this place before my blood pressure >gives me a stroke or heart attack, or he's going to fire me for refusing to >spend my own money to go take certification testing I know this may not give you practical help for your situation, but some comfort may be found in that this is probably due to the company's growing pains, and that your boss probably doesn't have anything against you or the other employees personally.
When companies grow, they go through phases of a lifecycle where they encounter several crises, like the crisis of a start-up not having mature processes in place, or the crisis of a mature company having too much red tape and being surpassed by nimbler rivals. Your company is facing a lot of changes, with new facilities, new employees, and since you weren't there day to day, a lot of those changes probably weren't communicated to you face to face, and it's a sudden shock.
It personally sounds to me as though your boss wants to bring you in closer and give you more skills and responsibilities so that you'll become a go-to person for him to delegate certain responsibilities. It sounds like he holds you in high regard that way. That's not to say that you shouldn't quit anyway, since you do have the longer commute and all, but it's less depressing when you can make a little sense of your company's motives.
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Jul 2006 03:05 GMT >>All I know is I'm either going to quit this place before my blood >>pressure gives me a stroke or heart attack, or he's going to fire me [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > commute and all, but it's less depressing when you can make a little > sense of your company's motives. Interesting points all. You could have a point, Tak. Or maybe Lori's boss is really a jerk! But there's that famous quote, maybe Heinlein? about attributing actions to malice when in fact they came from stupidity (or in this case, perhaps confusion).
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CatNipped - 06 Jul 2006 03:09 GMT >>All I know is I'm either going to quit this place before my blood pressure >>gives me a stroke or heart attack, or he's going to fire me for refusing [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > commute and all, but it's less depressing when you can make a little > sense of your company's motives. Oh, Tak, you're such a dear, sweet man! Thank you for that vote of confidence - I *needed* it!
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Takayuki - 06 Jul 2006 03:57 GMT >Oh, Tak, you're such a dear, sweet man! Thank you for that vote of >confidence - I *needed* it! I think you deserve it, but it's what I really think is likely. Imagine all the confusion at your HQ! They're trying to pull everyone together because there's so much more to manage! I'll bet your boss thought that he was keeping you on reserve to be activated, like some kind of pinch hitter.
Another area in which he's probably just confused is the certification training thing. Instead of comparing it to professional cert training and seminars and things, he's probably comparing it with tuition reimbursement plans, which usually have the employee pay up-front, and then reimburse once they get a passing grade. So he's currently under the delusion that the cert plan he gave you is a *benefit*. That's likely why you two can't see eye-to-eye on it.
So he's confused. :)
Monique Y. Mudama - 06 Jul 2006 04:22 GMT > Another area in which he's probably just confused is the > certification training thing. Instead of comparing it to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So he's confused. :) I think I know why you didn't like the seven habits stuff. You already seem to be practicing a lot of it, either instinctively or through some other learning process, so no need to go through a burdensome process of learning it. It would be like trying to teach someone to breathe ...
Habits four through six are about learning to really understand the other person's point of view and working to both find a solution that is not a compromise, but rather better for all parties than the original solutions proposed. But the first step is genuinely understanding what the other person is seeing and wants.
Since I just today finished reading the book, I'm seeing everything through seven habits-tinted glasses. Don't mind me, please.
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Adrian A - 05 Jul 2006 14:55 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does > anyone here know what that is and what I should expect?) and would > appreciate some purrs to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have > an appointment with a temp agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling > well enough and can make it home in time to get dressed and go back > across half the city to get there). Purrs for your test, I hope it won't be as bad as you anticipate.
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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 05 Jul 2006 15:35 GMT >I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here >know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs >to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a temp >agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in >time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). A bit belated, but I'm sure you came through it fine. It's one of the easier tests I've ever done. The stuff tastes chalky, but that's about it. Hope you did well!
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Sam - 06 Jul 2006 03:19 GMT > I have to go tomorrow morning for my "barium swallow" test (does anyone here > know what that is and what I should expect?) and would appreciate some purrs > to help me cope with the ordeal. Also, I have an appointment with a temp > agency in the afternoon (if I am feeling well enough and can make it home in > time to get dressed and go back across half the city to get there). I've only done the barium thing from the other end but you've got coping purrs on the way from here as well as good interview purrs.
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