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Scouty the Brave
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 04 Jul 2006 15:24 GMT You know how chicken Scouty is - she runs away and hides under the bed if anyone comes to the door and she doesn't recognise their voice... and even if she DOES recognise them she hides in the craftroom just in case she was wrong. Dan (our landlord) came over yesterday to collect the rent and she was under the dresser. We had to go into the craftroom to measure up the closet doors and she was curious enough to jump up on the desk and sit in her box to watch us, half-hiding behind the rack of skirts I had hanging up to dry. I turned around and noticed her and told her she was very brave, and Dan turned around and admired her and she didn't run away! So he went towards her and held out his hand towards her. He didn't try to pet her this time, but she sniffed his fingers with interest and I told her what a good brave girl she was :)
Karen - 04 Jul 2006 17:39 GMT > You know how chicken Scouty is - she runs away and hides under the bed > if anyone comes to the door and she doesn't recognise their voice... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > sniffed his fingers with interest and I told her what a good brave > girl she was :) That really IS brave!
Takayuki - 04 Jul 2006 18:21 GMT >You know how chicken Scouty is - she runs away and hides under the bed >if anyone comes to the door and she doesn't recognise their voice... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >sniffed his fingers with interest and I told her what a good brave >girl she was :) Did the other girls come out to see what was going on, or did Scouty turn out to be the bravest this time? :)
Betty also would also generally hide from visitors, but if I carried her over to them, she would give them lots of headbutts.
Sue - 04 Jul 2006 19:07 GMT > Betty also would also generally hide from visitors, but if I carried > her over to them, she would give them lots of headbutts. That is so odd, I always pictured Betty to be a flagrant petme type :) bless her little heart. She looked the black tuxedo version of my gray tuxedo version.
My long-ago RB Shadow-kitten was shy for about two minutes, checking out folks from behind the couch cave. Then as soon as they sat down she would be up on the couch, all fours in the air and doing the belly-whore thing. Never did the bellytrap. She just loooooooooved attention on her terms. Shameless really she was. She was proud of her stitches from her spay and then really really proud she was of her stitches from her 600 US dollar laparotomy when she decided to eat a couple of yards of string on a holiday weekend. There was no end to her tummy flaunting!
Glad to see you so active on the group, Tak. It won't be long before Betty sends you a new soul to take care of and you now you have to stay on top of all the kittystuff! Can't do with you falling behind in the latest on kittycaretaking :)
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 19:27 GMT > Glad to see you so active on the group, Tak. It won't be long > before Betty sends you a new soul to take care of and you now you > have to stay on top of all the kittystuff! Can't do with you falling > behind in the latest on kittycaretaking :) I can't speak for Tak, and I'm sorry for singling you out, but what's with everyone telling Tak he will get another kitty in the near future?
Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Maybe he will feel good about getting another pet in the near future; maybe he would rather wait. Maybe Betty will send a sweet creature who needs the unabashed, adoring, wonderful love that Tak has to give. Maybe, though, it will take a while. Maybe it won't even happen.
Tak, I just want you to know that you don't have to feel pressured to get another furkid, either to please Betty or to please us. You will always be welcome in this group, and whether or not you currently have a cat has nothing to do with it. And if you find that Betty has sent you a dog, or a mouse, or an aquatic turtle to care for, you'll still be welcome, even if you never have another feline companion. Even if you choose none of those.
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Sue - 04 Jul 2006 19:35 GMT > I can't speak for Tak, and I'm sorry for singling you out, but what's > with everyone telling Tak he will get another kitty in the near > future? Peace, Monique. I have just found that it is quite obvious Tak is a wonderful special caregiver! And Betty being the obvious special owner she was, only natural she will send another soul to Tak.
I am well aware from when I started reading the group how some members so "gently" urged him to take a kitty! That is what made it so special.
Tak, no offense or pressure meant, please!
Sue withdrawing again but bless you all that take care of the little souls that so need it
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 19:45 GMT >> I can't speak for Tak, and I'm sorry for singling you out, but >> what's with everyone telling Tak he will get another kitty in the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Sue withdrawing again but bless you all that take care of the little > souls that so need it Sue, I'm so sorry, please don't -- it wasn't your post particularly I meant to respond to. I just keep seeing all these posts telling him he'll soon get another kitty, and I didn't want him to get tired of it and leave. But I don't want you to leave, either!
Honestly I wasn't talking about the posts that urged him to get Betty in the first place. I just meant that people need to grieve in their own time.
I probably shouldn't have said anything. I'm sorry. I probably could have said it differently if I were in a better state, and I should have known not to post. Not to mention that it's about Tak, not me, so if he has a problem with the posts, I'm sure he's perfectly capable of saying something himself. So I really shouldn't have said anything.
Please stick around.
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Takayuki - 04 Jul 2006 20:43 GMT >I can't speak for Tak, and I'm sorry for singling you out, but what's >with everyone telling Tak he will get another kitty in the near [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >be welcome, even if you never have another feline companion. Even if >you choose none of those. Oh, I don't mind. I took it as a vote of confidence, but I've been too confused and conflicted to properly think about it yet. Maybe it is something that I should eventually talk through.
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 23:14 GMT > Oh, I don't mind. I took it as a vote of confidence, but I've been > too confused and conflicted to properly think about it yet. Maybe > it is something that I should eventually talk through. Cool. I'll stop trying to defend people who don't need defending, then =)
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Cheryl - 04 Jul 2006 23:22 GMT > Oh, I don't mind. I took it as a vote of confidence, but I've > been too confused and conflicted to properly think about it yet. > Maybe it is something that I should eventually talk through. This reminds me of a story I'd like to tell. Marley was my first cat that lived with me through many many changes. He was only 13 when he went to the bridge. When he died, I was so sure I wanted another tiger striped tabby just like him. I ended up fostering cats for the local SPCA instead, and ended up with Shamrock. Looks nothing like him, but acts like him. Now I have Rhett who is a big tiger striped tabby and reminds me of Marley more and more all the time.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 02:22 GMT > This reminds me of a story I'd like to tell. Marley was my first cat > that lived with me through many many changes. He was only 13 when he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > him, but acts like him. Now I have Rhett who is a big tiger striped > tabby and reminds me of Marley more and more all the time. I think with cats, as with people, you can often find that your "type" is irrelevant once you get to know the personality.
I met DH online -- I don't think I would have approached him, or he me, if we'd seen each other in person.
And I thought I would never want a long haired cat. Well, guess what I got =)
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Takayuki - 05 Jul 2006 04:39 GMT >This reminds me of a story I'd like to tell. Marley was my first cat >that lived with me through many many changes. He was only 13 when he [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >him, but acts like him. Now I have Rhett who is a big tiger striped >tabby and reminds me of Marley more and more all the time. It doesn't seem to matter what their markings are, does it? You still hear generalizations like how orange boys are mellow, tricolors are temperamental, and tuxedos are not very bright. But it's in their nature to prove us wrong. :)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Jul 2006 08:35 GMT > It doesn't seem to matter what their markings are, does it? You still > hear generalizations like how orange boys are mellow, tricolors are > temperamental, and tuxedos are not very bright. But it's in their > nature to prove us wrong. :) Licky would like to make sure you know that the third one is very, very wrong!
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Adrian A - 05 Jul 2006 14:35 GMT >> This reminds me of a story I'd like to tell. Marley was my first cat >> that lived with me through many many changes. He was only 13 when he [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > temperamental, and tuxedos are not very bright. But it's in their > nature to prove us wrong. :) Figaro, the cat I grew up with, was a tuxedo, she was _very_ bright. :-)
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 04 Jul 2006 23:31 GMT >>I can't speak for Tak, and I'm sorry for singling you out, but what's >>with everyone telling Tak he will get another kitty in the near [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >too confused and conflicted to properly think about it yet. Maybe it >is something that I should eventually talk through. All I can say Tak, is please don't do what my uncle did... he never 'wanted' a cat but his friend's daughter was moving overseas and needed a cat-carer so he took the cat on (mostly because he had a huge crush on the friend :P ) He doted on that cat and thought she was the most precious creature in the universe. Nothing was too good for her... but she wasn't a young cat when he adopted her and eventually she crossed the Rainbow Bridge and he was so heartbroken that he vowed never to get another one... and he's been alone for a decade :(
There will never be another Betty, but there are so many cats that need loving homes and they're all special in their own ways. Please keep your heart open to the possibility of another furry companion...
Takayuki - 05 Jul 2006 04:42 GMT >All I can say Tak, is please don't do what my uncle did... he never >'wanted' a cat but his friend's daughter was moving overseas and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >need loving homes and they're all special in their own ways. Please >keep your heart open to the possibility of another furry companion... Right now, I'm in a state where I want *Betty* back. Maybe it's because I've never had another, but it seems to be her that I'm pining for, that I'm lonely for.
Karen - 05 Jul 2006 05:22 GMT >> All I can say Tak, is please don't do what my uncle did... he never >> 'wanted' a cat but his friend's daughter was moving overseas and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > because I've never had another, but it seems to be her that I'm pining > for, that I'm lonely for. No, I think that is totally normal and not because Betty was your only cat. I know I want Grant back still. I'm quite certain I will feel that way about each of them. It's very natural, Tak. (((((hugs))))))
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Jul 2006 08:41 GMT > Tak said: > >> Right now, I'm in a state where I want *Betty* back. Maybe it's >> because I've never had another, but it seems to be her that I'm pining >> for, that I'm lonely for.
> No, I think that is totally normal and not because Betty was your only > cat. I know I want Grant back still. I'm quite certain I will feel that > way about each of them. It's very natural, Tak. (((((hugs)))))) I think that's what grief is. You want that specific person or cat or friend of whatever species, you don't want a replacement.
Ultimately, most people get to a place where, although they don't stop missing the friend who has departed, the grief is less over- powering so that they now have some room in their heart to love someone else. It sounds like you're not there right now. I think that's fine, and quite natural.
When Smudge was missing, I remember the first 3 or 4 days, I would come home, look at Licky and Roxy, and feel *nothing*. All I could see when I looked at them was "not Smudge". It was horrible. After a few days, I started to feel some affection for them again, and I was *so* relieved! But I still missed Smudge so much that I wasn't able to enjoy them as much as I had before she disappeared, and since she's been back.
It seems that the joy of loving one being enhances the love toward others.
Joyce
Takayuki - 06 Jul 2006 02:32 GMT >I think that's what grief is. You want that specific person or cat >or friend of whatever species, you don't want a replacement. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >able to enjoy them as much as I had before she disappeared, and >since she's been back. There's no need to feel bad about that. In fact, I think that the "not Smudge" feeling is much stronger in your temporary loss grief case than in a bereavement case, because you were actually physically searching for Smudge, so out of necessity, you were categorizing everything as Smudge, possibly Smudge, and not Smudge.
I'm sure that in Karen's case for example, she didn't see Pearl and Sugar as "not Grant", although of course, they are that. But she was probably comforted by them, even though their health situations right now are maybe not too comforting.
I'm so glad that your grief over Smudge was cut short! You know, I still wonder what happened to Ollie and Buddy, and the other cats that just seemed to have disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle.
Karen - 06 Jul 2006 14:48 GMT > >I think that's what grief is. You want that specific person or cat > >or friend of whatever species, you don't want a replacement. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > probably comforted by them, even though their health situations right > now are maybe not too comforting. I have to say that it was true for me too. And I always felt bad because Sugar was kind of my favorite (well, it's hard for me to say there was difference between Grant and Sugar but I thought MAYBE I loved Sugar a little more) but I, too, felt a bit "they're not Grant". However, I also felt thankful for them because it would have been sooooooooooooo much worse to come home to NO one. I was also quite sick when Grant died. It was all very bad.
> I'm so glad that your grief over Smudge was cut short! You know, I > still wonder what happened to Ollie and Buddy, and the other cats that > just seemed to have disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle. jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 06 Jul 2006 21:45 GMT > "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> I'm sure that in Karen's case for example, she didn't see Pearl and >> Sugar as "not Grant", although of course, they are that. But she was >> probably comforted by them, even though their health situations right >> now are maybe not too comforting.
> I have to say that it was true for me too. And I always felt bad because > Sugar was kind of my favorite (well, it's hard for me to say there was > difference between Grant and Sugar but I thought MAYBE I loved Sugar a > little more) but I, too, felt a bit "they're not Grant". Roxy has always been my favorite, but when Smudge was gone, I was still really missing *her*, and even my favorite cat couldn't make up for that.
One way that I really value Smudge is that she's very constant about her affections. Roxy comes and goes - and when she does come up for a cuddle, she's extremely affectionate, gets right in my face, rubs noses, purrs in my ear, etc. - but then when she's done, she's on her way. Licky is pretty much the same way.
Whereas Smudge just kind of parks herself near me (usually touching me someplace, eg, curled up and leaning against my torso, or lying on top of my thigh when I'm reclining on the couch, etc). She's quite loyal, and likes to hang out wherever I'm hanging out. Even when she goes outdoors, her favorite thing is to have me join her outside and pet her while she rolls around on the warm sidewalk. She also loves taking walks with me.
Smudge is also a constant purrer. Pretty much anytime I come near her, talk to her, coo at her, look at her, or touch her briefly, she starts purring. She just really likes attention. She's a very highly socialized kitty.
Joyce
Takayuki - 07 Jul 2006 03:49 GMT >However, I also felt thankful for them because it would >have been sooooooooooooo much worse to come home to NO one. Yes, I know. It's so quiet.
Adrian A - 05 Jul 2006 14:47 GMT >> All I can say Tak, is please don't do what my uncle did... he never >> 'wanted' a cat but his friend's daughter was moving overseas and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > because I've never had another, but it seems to be her that I'm pining > for, that I'm lonely for. I know that feeling can last for months. One day maybe you'll be able to share your life with another cat and be able to apreciate the differences. Obviously there can never be another Betty.
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Jo Firey - 05 Jul 2006 18:30 GMT >>All I can say Tak, is please don't do what my uncle did... he never >>'wanted' a cat but his friend's daughter was moving overseas and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > because I've never had another, but it seems to be her that I'm pining > for, that I'm lonely for. It isn't yet time then.
I only had my Rosie for a year, And as far as cats go, she was my one true love. All our other cats pretty much consider me a poor imitation of their real owner DH. She was a lovebug and a full contact cat. A rather small version of the thin and regal show Siamese,
When she died, all I wanted for the longest time was Rosie back. I'd think of the qualities I'd like to have in a new kitten and would quickly see, I was just asking for Rosie. Not fair to me, not fair to Rosie and really not fair to a kitten.
So I started listing what I wanted. A girl cat. Small. Big ears. Long tail. And I stopped the list with that. Any more would not be reasonable.
We hit the shelters. And the PetCo and Pet Mart rescues. Started at 9 AM and really looked. Nothing. The PetCo furthest from our house didn't have any cats, said the cat lady was having car trouble and would be late. So we kept on going. But decided to go back and check them out just one more time.
We got there just as their cat lady arrived and started unloading. Third cat into a cage was a tiny eighteen month old girl with big ears and a long tail. White, tabby and orange calico markings. Stitched up her belly, And a really exhausted look in her eyes. She was a feral that had been trapped and had just raised a litter of kittens. But she met the guidelines and we brought her home. She isn't my Rosie. No cat ever will be. But she was meant to be here. Often she just drifts through like a little ghost. Never asks for attention. But at night when she thinks I'm asleep she comes in a curls up on my feet.
Jo
polonca12000 - 07 Jul 2006 23:03 GMT > Right now, I'm in a state where I want *Betty* back. Maybe it's > because I've never had another, but it seems to be her that I'm pining > for, that I'm lonely for. That is understandable, Tak. Lots and lots of purrs and hugs, Polonca and Soncek
Takayuki - 04 Jul 2006 20:39 GMT >> Betty also would also generally hide from visitors, but if I carried >> her over to them, she would give them lots of headbutts. > >That is so odd, I always pictured Betty to be a flagrant petme type :) bless >her little heart. She looked the black tuxedo version of my gray tuxedo >version. Even her tag at the shelter said that she was shy. But with me, she was completely confident. "Trusting", maybe is the word. Loving. I think that she was raised as a one hoomin cat in her previous home, which is probably part of the reason she was given up - when her previous owner couldn't take care of her anymore, she had no more slaves. I think part of it also was that she was a socially "careful" cat. She always wanted to be sure that she was doing the right, approved thing.
>My long-ago RB Shadow-kitten was shy for about two minutes, checking out >folks from behind the couch cave. Then as soon as they sat down she would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >laparotomy when she decided to eat a couple of yards of string on a holiday >weekend. There was no end to her tummy flaunting! Shadow was a cutie!
Sue - 04 Jul 2006 20:47 GMT
> Shadow was a cutie! Yes, she was. Pity it was more than 25 years ago those days - no digital cameras and I didn't own a regular one. For reasons I won't go into here, we often had to "travel" on a moment's notice. Back then she was my traveling movin kitty! Plop her in the carrier and take off. We did motels. She took over after a few minutes. Kept her litter box in the tubs at such places and fed her on the dressers. She was very comfy and loved the A/C! Most people made quite a fuss as they said she was so CLEAN looking! I called her a "russian blue cream" LOL. And they believed it. Hey, she was a 600 dollar cat and in those days that was a lot <wink>
She loved moving "house". All the boxes. And possibly new moths to go after LOL. Great grey hunter. One place we had mice or at least one meese. It took a liking to her green litter. She would cry outside the curtain to her bathroom and look at me..."it's in there! Get it out!"
When she got older she was less good about traveling in the carrier. Which then usually meant the vet. There will never be another cat like her for me, had a few, some very smart and some very pretty. More than Shadow-kitten but she was the bestest. You know what I mean :)
Takayuki - 04 Jul 2006 20:58 GMT >Yes, she was. Pity it was more than 25 years ago those days - no digital >cameras and I didn't own a regular one. For reasons I won't go into here, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >me, had a few, some very smart and some very pretty. More than >Shadow-kitten but she was the bestest. You know what I mean :) Wow, she really was your companion kitty, and you managed to make lots of memories together! No wonder you remember your time with her the best.
Sue - 04 Jul 2006 21:18 GMT > Wow, she really was your companion kitty, and you managed to make lots > of memories together! No wonder you remember your time with her the > best. I always said I had the best kitty of my life and it didn't matter if I never had another kitty cause I had had the best one ever!
Yes, someday I was thinking about sharing my Shadow-kitten stories here. I don't know if I will get a chance to have another pet other than maybe fish the way I live now, but they were good stories! And she was good kitty!
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 21:37 GMT > I always said I had the best kitty of my life and it didn't matter > if I never had another kitty cause I had had the best one ever! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > than maybe fish the way I live now, but they were good stories! And > she was good kitty! I would love to read about Shadow, and I would also be happy to read stories about any fish that might find their way into your life. I had some pretty zany hamsters, myself.
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Sue - 04 Jul 2006 21:53 GMT
> I would love to read about Shadow, and I would also be happy to read > stories about any fish that might find their way into your life. I > had some pretty zany hamsters, myself. Not sure how to go about writing them out, Monique. A bunch of Littles or One biggie? They probably wouldn't be that interesting to people who have had so many cats. But will try some time maybe when feeling less aprehensive.
It is hard for somebody without a kitty anymore to be posting to a kitty group. It is probably why I feel such afinity with Tak. Although I have had a couple of kitties in my life, I only had ONE real kitty for me. So I don't ever forget her :) I hope some day that I will be in a place where I can have a pet again, but if not it is okay because I had the best kitty (and best puppy, too - but I haven't done the puppy groups yet!) Also had the best horses, even if they weren't mine LOL
Takayuki - 05 Jul 2006 04:46 GMT >Not sure how to go about writing them out, Monique. A bunch of Littles or >One biggie? They probably wouldn't be that interesting to people who have >had so many cats. But will try some time maybe when feeling less >aprehensive. Personally, I just write whatever my whim says, and I think it's the same for everyone else. :) The ones who are more organized than that are really rare, like Sue (another one) who writes poems about her long lost Onyx, and Bev, who IIRC was at least thinking of publishing her stories, who kept her Ollie stories very neat and numbered.
Monique Y. Mudama - 05 Jul 2006 08:19 GMT > Not sure how to go about writing them out, Monique. A bunch of > Littles or One biggie? They probably wouldn't be that interesting > to people who have had so many cats. But will try some time maybe > when feeling less aprehensive. I don't see why people who have had many cats would be less interested in stories than those who haven't ... people who've had many cats, at least on this ng, tend to be people who adore them =)
My personal preference is for short stories, just because it's easier to find the time to read them. But whatever length feels right to you. If you write kitty stories, they will come!
> It is hard for somebody without a kitty anymore to be posting to a > kitty group. It is probably why I feel such afinity with Tak. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > haven't done the puppy groups yet!) Also had the best horses, even > if they weren't mine LOL I understand. I would really love to have a dog, but I just can't be responsible for one right now. I would love to have another kitty, but I just don't have the time (patience, resources, willpower, whatever) to integrate them properly, if that's even possible with Oscar. I've promised myself, any pet that I have will be taken care of to the highest standards, so that I won't ever again have any regrets about how I treated them as I do about my RB dog Puma.
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Adrian A - 04 Jul 2006 21:56 GMT >> Wow, she really was your companion kitty, and you managed to make >> lots of memories together! No wonder you remember your time with [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > than maybe fish the way I live now, but they were good stories! And > she was good kitty! I would love to read your Shadow-kitten stories, I wonder how many people are fortunate enough to share the love of such a comapanion. I know Tak was with Betty and I am with Snoopy plus several others that post here.
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 04 Jul 2006 23:18 GMT >Did the other girls come out to see what was going on, or did Scouty >turn out to be the bravest this time? :) > >Betty also would also generally hide from visitors, but if I carried >her over to them, she would give them lots of headbutts. Tessie loves Dan so much she wants to go home with him... but then she loves almost everyone :) And Silver demands her share of attention when he comes around to collect the rent. Dan says he's not mad keen on animals, but he's certainly got a good touch with them...
Christina Websell - 04 Jul 2006 19:35 GMT > You know how chicken Scouty is - she runs away and hides under the bed > if anyone comes to the door and she doesn't recognise their voice... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > sniffed his fingers with interest and I told her what a good brave > girl she was :) Oh, she really was. Give her scritches from me for being such a brave girl, Boyfriend is nowhere near this stage. If he hears the front door bell ring he hurtles out the back door like a bullet from a gun. He might be fast asleep, he might be eating but if that bell rings, he's outa here.
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Cheryl - 04 Jul 2006 21:16 GMT > You know how chicken Scouty is - she runs away and hides under > the bed if anyone comes to the door and she doesn't recognise [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > time, but she sniffed his fingers with interest and I told her > what a good brave girl she was :) She sure is! I remember how proud I was of Bonnie one night when a friend was over for movies, and she came downstairs where we were. He ignored her (he knew she was there, and loves cats but knows her history) and his ignoring her had her so curious that she actually approached him and let him pet her head. :) I was just truly amazed.
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polonca12000 - 07 Jul 2006 22:56 GMT > You know how chicken Scouty is - she runs away and hides under the bed > if anyone comes to the door and she doesn't recognise their voice... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > sniffed his fingers with interest and I told her what a good brave > girl she was :) Good for Scouty! Best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
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