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I just got the sweetest phone call
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Jul 2006 23:15 GMT I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old:
"Um, hi, um, my sister and me, we, um, saw some footprints, some cat footprints, in our yard, and, um, we think it might have been Smudge."
Is that adorable or what? She (or he, hard to tell) then went on to name the street they lived on, which is in my neighborhood. They must have seen my sign and were trying to help.
So I explained that Smudge is home, and how I found her, but I said that it was wonderful that they called me, and very nice of them, because you never know, maybe I was still looking for my cat, and then it might have been very helpful.
I guess I missed a few signs when I went to tear them down!
Joyce
Matthew - 03 Jul 2006 23:18 GMT Joyce did you get their name and number if you did and can afford to go spend 5 to 10 on a little gift certificate for food or a toy store or something to say thank you for the effort of the little one. Things have a way of coming back to you when you say thank you in special ways
>I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce Karen AKA Kajikit - 03 Jul 2006 23:46 GMT >I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >I guess I missed a few signs when I went to tear them down! How very sweet and thoughtful of them!
Joy - 03 Jul 2006 23:48 GMT > >I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > How very sweet and thoughtful of them! Yes, it was. It's especially nice to hear about children being so thoughtful. It gives us hope for the future.
Joy
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 00:42 GMT > Yes, it was. It's especially nice to hear about children being so > thoughtful. It gives us hope for the future. I think overall, kids aren't any more or less rotten than they ever were.
I do know that I don't want to go back ... a lot of my friends have toddlers, and their attitude is one of curiosity and discovery -- who are you? Who is this precious little person I've created, and how can I nurture him/her best?
I don't know that my parents' generation had quite that attitude. Or, they may have tried, but what came across very clearly is "This is who you need to be if you're going to get the trappings of love from me."
Okay, now I'm internalizing. But I can't be the only one!
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Jo Firey - 04 Jul 2006 02:02 GMT >> Yes, it was. It's especially nice to hear about children being so >> thoughtful. It gives us hope for the future. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Okay, now I'm internalizing. But I can't be the only one! You remember that saying "I know you think you understood what you thought I said, but you don't realize that what I think I said really wasn't what I meant"
The messages parents think they send are seldom quite the same as the ones their children get.
Jo
Cheryl Perkins - 04 Jul 2006 02:33 GMT >>> Yes, it was. It's especially nice to hear about children being so >>> thoughtful. It gives us hope for the future. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> Okay, now I'm internalizing. But I can't be the only one!
> You remember that saying "I know you think you understood what you thought I > said, but you don't realize that what I think I said really wasn't what I > meant"
> The messages parents think they send are seldom quite the same as the ones > their children get. I think this is true. I know that with time and maturity, I have come to realize that I played my part in differences between me and my parents - by my speech, actions and expectations. There's tons of room for misinterpretations going both ways. I also think that there's no such thing as a parent of a certain generation. Oh, sure, everyone who is raising infants at a particular time and in a particular place is going to be affected by what the culture says about child rearing, but how they actually do it is going to be enormously affected by their personality, the innate aspects of their child's personality and above all, how each parent was raised and the degree to which they come up with a common view (based on two different families of origin) of how to raise their own child.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 09 Jul 2006 16:37 GMT >> The messages parents think they send are seldom quite the same as >> the ones their children get. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and the degree to which they come up with a common view (based on > two different families of origin) of how to raise their own child. You're probably right.
I agree that I played my part (still do) in differences between me and my parents, but I also am starting to realize that the way I acted stemmed in large part from how I was treated. Not the words, but the actions. The words said, "You can be anything, and we'll support you!" In reality, though, any deviation from a set of acceptable behaviors resulted in disappointment and anger. I responded by becoming an angry, rebellious child. Yes, another child might have internalized it differently, becoming sullen and withdrawn and quiet. I'm glad I chose my route.
Now that I'm an angry, rebellious adult, though, it's time to heal those wounds. I do think my parents reaped what they sowed. Whenever I tell them anything about my life, they lecture me. Whenever I tell them anything about how I feel or ask them not to lecture me, I get told that I'm too sensitive and that it's for my own good. When I try not to tell them anything worth arguing over, they complain that I've built up a wall.
When my mom visited while I was laid off over a year ago, she insisted on buying a second suit in addition to the interview suit we found. She claimed that I could wear it all the time, if not as a whole suit then as a blazer over jeans or just the pants with a nice shirt. I told her at the time that that was never going to happen; tech companies just don't work that way (I know yours is starting to, Cheryl -- we'll see where that goes). But she was so excited about it that I gave in. So then on her latest visit, she asked me about the suits, and I told her (maybe my mistake was being honest?) that I hadn't had any opportunity to wear them -- they're just not appropriate for what I do; they would look way, way out of place; people would think I was interviewing somewhere else that day. She got all disappointed. It took me a few days to realize how angry I am that she is manipulating me, punishing me for not wearing something I didn't want in the first place and only accepted because it seemed to make her so happy.
Ahem. Anyway, yeah, I'm in therapy. Can't change my parents, so I might as well change myself. Nuff said.
To be honest, I've realized that one major reason I don't want kids is that I don't want to do to them what my parents did to me. No, there was no abuse, and yes, I know my parents did the best they could and far better than many, but still, it's not a cycle I want to repeat. There are other reasons, too, but that one's a biggie.
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Enfilade - 09 Jul 2006 18:10 GMT > >> The messages parents think they send are seldom quite the same as > >> the ones their children get. Yes, I think this is true. And vice versa.
Some of the worst fights I've ever had with my mom has been when one of us took the other's words/actions in a way the other never meant.
I remember asking my mother, when I got my masters' degree, if she was proud of me. She looked flabbergasted, said of course, began listing things I'd done that impressed her. "You know this!" she said, as if it went without saying.
No. No, I didn't, all those years I thought I was nothing but an embarrassment and an irritation, because that's all I remembered hearing about.
> Now that I'm an angry, rebellious adult, though, it's time to heal those > wounds. I do think my parents reaped what they sowed. Whenever I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > not to tell them anything worth arguing over, they complain that I've > built up a wall. I'm at a point when my parents come to visit, I dress and act in a completely different manner from my usual self. We can see each other about 3 times a year with relative civility. Part of me is annoyed that I change around my house and clothing to suit her. I don't feel that I should have to. On the other hand, it's not pleasant for my father to be caught between us in a fight, and if I can modify my behaviour to avoid it, so be it. He never did anything to deserve that.
When I visit my mother, she spends most of her time taking on extra jobs outside the house. I think on some level she also knows that the more time we spend together, the more we fight.
I suppose I am luckier than you are Monique, in that the silences in between us are either unnoticed or unquestioned. It's like we all know on some level that the walls have to stay up.
My parents and I went to see my in laws last summer, and my mother in law asked Dylan what was wrong with me, was I sick. She knew I wasn't usually withdrawn and quiet. Once again, the less I say, the less my mom can take offense to and start a war over.
And I am with you Monique. I don't want kids because I know I couldn't focus on them the way my grandma did for me, and I don't have a grandma figure to do the job. I'm too much like my mom that way, and I don't think it would be fair to the kids.
--Fil
jmcquown - 04 Jul 2006 00:19 GMT > I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce Awww, that's very nice! Some kids who are conciencious (and who also know how to read!). Very nice indeed. I'm glad you thanked them. Maybe they could come over and visit Smudge so next time (hopefully there won't be a next time!) they'll know what Smudge looks like.
Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 00:38 GMT > I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > > "Um, hi, um, my sister and me, we, um, saw some footprints, some cat > footprints, in our yard, and, um, we think it might have been > Smudge." Aww. I think those kids deserve an ice cream treat (or something else approved by their mom)!
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Cheryl - 04 Jul 2006 01:37 GMT On Mon 03 Jul 2006 06:15:43p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:44a9970f$0$34549$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net):
> I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce That's so sweet! I'm amazed that they even found tiny footprints. Animal lovers in the making. :)
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Takayuki - 04 Jul 2006 03:47 GMT >Is that adorable or what? She (or he, hard to tell) then went on >to name the street they lived on, which is in my neighborhood. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >because you never know, maybe I was still looking for my cat, and >then it might have been very helpful. That *is* very cute! Also, he or she must have amazing tracking abilities to have confidence that it could be Smudge's footprint. :)
Adrian A - 04 Jul 2006 11:13 GMT > I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce How sweet. :-)
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Susan M - 04 Jul 2006 14:10 GMT >I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > > "Um, hi, um, my sister and me, we, um, saw some footprints, some > cat footprints, in our yard, and, um, we think it might have been > Smudge." Aww - that' so nice. After Otis ran away when we moved, it was a set of brothers, 5 and 7, who spotted and found Otis. They saw him out the front window and had their mom call me - then they found him under the bushes, even though I couldn't see him and he wouldn't answer me from there. It's wonderful how kids take this so seriously!
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Enfilade - 04 Jul 2006 17:06 GMT > > "Um, hi, um, my sister and me, we, um, saw some footprints, some > > cat footprints, in our yard, and, um, we think it might have been > > Smudge." I remember when I was about 14, my neighbours lost a calf. The cow and calf went through a hole in his fence, and he found the cow but not the calf. The calf was very young, and would not have survived the night without the cow. My dad and the calf's owner spent the day driving around our and his property in a truck, looking, but couldn't find the calf.
I found this out at supper time, so I took my dog and went to the back forty and....found the calf. SHe was tucked up like a fawn, hiding, and she stayed in that position while I ran to the house, got my dad to call Larry, went back to keep an eye on her and give Larry a reference point to take his truck to.
--Fil
Matthew - 04 Jul 2006 17:14 GMT I remember days like that growing up
>> > "Um, hi, um, my sister and me, we, um, saw some footprints, some >> > cat footprints, in our yard, and, um, we think it might have been [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > --Fil jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Jul 2006 22:13 GMT > Aww - that' so nice. After Otis ran away when we moved, it was a set of > brothers, 5 and 7, who spotted and found Otis. They saw him out the front > window and had their mom call me - then they found him under the bushes, > even though I couldn't see him and he wouldn't answer me from there. It's > wonderful how kids take this so seriously! One of the sites David Stevenson recommended had a list of things to do when looking for a lost cat, and one of them was to involve the neighborhood kids: "Try to get all the neighborhood children involved. Kids are great at finding lost pets!"
I saw this, but since there don't seem to be many kids in my neighborhood (over the age of 3, that is), I wasn't sure to ask.
I'm not sure how I can contact those kids who called me - I think it was a "private call" that came up on my caller ID, which means the caller blocks their phone number. So I'd have no way of calling them back, unfortunately. I really liked the idea of giving them a gift to thank them, but I don't know who they are!
Joyce
Adrian A - 04 Jul 2006 22:16 GMT > > Aww - that' so nice. After Otis ran away when we moved, it was a > set of > brothers, 5 and 7, who spotted and found Otis. They saw [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Joyce Pay it forward. :-)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Jul 2006 22:42 GMT >> I really liked the idea of giving them a gift to thank >> them, but I don't know who they are! >> Joyce
> Pay it forward. :-) Bingo. :) Good idea.
Joyce
Cheryl - 04 Jul 2006 23:00 GMT On Tue 04 Jul 2006 05:13:22p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:44aad9f2$0$34535$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net):
> > Aww - that' so nice. After Otis ran away when we moved, it > > was a set of brothers, 5 and 7, who spotted and found Otis. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > involve the neighborhood kids: "Try to get all the neighborhood > children involved. Kids are great at finding lost pets!" That's what I was thinking. The kids here all seem to know every animal and everything that's going on. Back when I used to leave food out for Jake, Lightening and Bonnie (pre-trapping) the kids told me there were a lot of cats eating from the food I left out. That led me to stop putting out food after those three were caught because it isn't safe to lure cats to my house on this hard road. I remember I used to see a lot of casualties of the road back then, but I don't see many these days.
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polonca12000 - 05 Jul 2006 22:59 GMT > I just got a call from a child, probably about 8 years old: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce So nice to hear children are so thoughtful and helpful even when so young, they will make great catslaves someday. Best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
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