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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2006Cleaning the wound
Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me at the vet's because I was standing up? Or if it was seeing her stick that instrument into the puncture? I know I have a stress response to needles and stuff. It's not that I even think it's gross and I'm not scared. It's just a weird thing I have. But anyway, it seems to be ok if I'm at home and sitting down, so I'm glad about that. Vino was a champ, he only made weird noises at me, but didn't really struggle. He's such a sweetie. He had to spend hours licking himself to get his poor shaved patch into tiptop shape. When it came to his antibiotic, I crushed it up and mixed it in with some Fancy Feast. He didn't even notice and gobbled it right up. Whew! Then he decided he wanted out really, really badly. I wasn't going to let him but in the end I caved because I figured it was raining anyway and he wouldn't leave the covered area on the side of the house. This is exactly what happened, I left the door open and checked frequently and all he was doing was meatloafing on our steamer, next to the BBQ. Later we watched Wimbledon together for a bit, then he fell asleep on my lap. I extricated myself but he's still asleep on the couch.  SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. > Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Later we watched Wimbledon together for a bit, then he fell asleep on my > lap. I extricated myself but he's still asleep on the couch. Sending purrs to help Vino heal completely. MLB > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went > fine. Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > bit, then he fell asleep on my lap. I extricated myself but he's > still asleep on the couch. I'm so glad that Veno's feeling better and taking his meds OK. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. > Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > When it came to his antibiotic, I crushed it up and mixed it in with > some Fancy Feast. He didn't even notice and gobbled it right up. Whew! Such a good cat. Rusty won't eat his food if it has medicine in it. Won't eat his food period while he was on antibiotics. He should take some lessons from Vino. But I think Rusty has turned into a stubborn old cat. OK, Rusty, I mean to say mature cat. BTW, anyone seen the Garfield comics lately? It is about Garfield at the vet. Winnie > Then he decided he wanted out really, really badly. I wasn't going to > let him but in the end I caved because I figured it was raining anyway [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes a minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about 24 hours for maggots to hatch and cause another emergency. Rhonda > some Fancy Feast. He didn't even notice and gobbled it right up. Whew! > Then he decided he wanted out really, really badly. I wasn't going to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Later we watched Wimbledon together for a bit, then he fell asleep on my > lap. I extricated myself but he's still asleep on the couch. > I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes a > minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about 24 > hours for maggots to hatch and cause another emergency. Well, I suppose vets are different, depending upon where you live, but whenever I've had a cat with a cat-bite abcess, the vet always cleaned it out, stitched it up, and sent the cat home with antibiotic drops. (There was no longer an open wound to worry about, nor did I have to do any at-home "cleaning".) >I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes a >minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about 24 >hours for maggots to hatch and cause another emergency. Ewww, is this a problem in Australia? In the US, I remember we had a successful screw worm eradication program, so for the most part, the flies that are left have maggots that will only eat dead flesh, and not live flesh. >> I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes a >> minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about 24 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > flies that are left have maggots that will only eat dead flesh, and > not live flesh. Dont' they actually keep live wounds clean? Supposedly? >>> I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes a >>> minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about 24 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Dont' they actually keep live wounds clean? Supposedly? The maggots that eat only dead flesh are sometimes used medicinally to keep wounds free of dead flesh. Screw worms, mentioned above, are a type of fly larvae that grow in living flesh, producing large sores. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria >> Ewww, is this a problem in Australia? In the US, I remember we had a >> successful screw worm eradication program, so for the most part, the >> flies that are left have maggots that will only eat dead flesh, and >> not live flesh. > >Dont' they actually keep live wounds clean? Supposedly? I did read in Discover magazine about 10 years ago that they successfully tried putting blowfly eggs in wounds that were otherwise in danger of becoming gangrenous, and it worked out really well. The only problem was shooing out all the flies from the hospital room once they pupated and hatched. >>> I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes >>> a minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dont' they actually keep live wounds clean? Supposedly? Bot flies burrow in and emit a poison. When it happens to rabbits, you have about 24 hours to get them to the vet and then if they do make it -- they are usually sick for a long time. I've heard of the larva being cleaned out (one by one) and then some appearing again days later. It is incredibly gross. I've never heard of a larva cleaning a wound. Do you know what kind of fly that would be? Rhonda >> I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes >> a minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > flies that are left have maggots that will only eat dead flesh, and > not live flesh. I don't know but it's winter here and I haven't seen a fly for weeks. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>> I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes >>> a minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I don't know but it's winter here and I haven't seen a fly for weeks. Good. If you've had snow or a really hard freeze, you should be okay. Rhonda >Good. If you've had snow or a really hard freeze, you should be okay. > >Rhonda Perth gets neither snow nor hard freezes. In fact, I don't think Perth even gets frosts. Tish >>Good. If you've had snow or a really hard freeze, you should be okay. >> >>Rhonda > > Perth gets neither snow nor hard freezes. In fact, I don't think > Perth even gets frosts. Hmmm, so they're in Perth? I don't call that winter then if the highs are around 70 degrees! ;) So my 2 cents still is that I wouldn't take the chance of letting a cat out with a wound. Even if flies are not a problem there, what about dirt? Cats just love that rolling in the dust thing. Rhonda >>> Good. If you've had snow or a really hard freeze, you should be >>> okay. Rhonda [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rhonda Well, I'm 3 hours south of Perth and it's quite a bit colder. But still no hard freezes and definitely no snow. Still, I'm not worried. There's no flies around and even if there were, Vino just catches them and eats them anyway. His wound is healing up well, I clean it twice a day and put betadine on it. Still, it isn't really staying open or weeping. It looks much more healed today already. As for the rolling in the dirt, not Vino, oh no! He doesn't even like walking on the grass, I've seen him very carefully using the stepping stones to get to the back of the house (where it's mostly paved). He likes to nibble on the long grass that's growing in the vegetable patch (for which I recently got in trouble with the rental agency, so pissed off, have to pull up all weeds and grass!) so he gingerly balances on the wooden border around the beds, carefully avoiding stepping on the pebbles around the outside. When he lies in the sun, it's on our nice clean steamer with comfy cushions. He won't lie in the grass and he won't lie in the dirt. Yeah, I know, Vino's a bit of a nancy boy, but I love him :-) SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>I personally would not let him out with an open wound. It only takes a >>minute for a fly or other insect to lay eggs in it and then about 24 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > flies that are left have maggots that will only eat dead flesh, and > not live flesh. Hi Tak, I have no idea about Australia, but there are flies here in the U.S. that lay eggs that burrow into the skin and cause a real problem to the host. Bot flies are the ones I've heard about most. Rabbits sometimes get dirty rears and many rabbits have died from fly larva. It was really bad in the Southeast a few years ago. I haven't heard about it as much here in the Northwest, except I had a friend on the west side of Canada whose rabbit died of maggots. Rhonda >Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. >Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Later we watched Wimbledon together for a bit, then he fell asleep on my >lap. I extricated myself but he's still asleep on the couch. Aww, Vino is such a great guy. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War > Aww, Vino is such a great guy. He is a lovey! A monkey-butt lovey! :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> Aww, Vino is such a great guy. > > He is a lovey! A monkey-butt lovey! :) Yes, he is. The vet was quite taken by him too. Everyone loves Vino. He's a sweetie cat. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. > Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me > at the vet's because I was standing up? Or if it was seeing her stick > that instrument into the puncture? I vote for the needle. That's a big phobia for a lot of people. > I know I have a stress response to needles and stuff. It's not that I > even think it's gross and I'm not scared. It's just a weird thing I > have. You might have a phobia and not even realize it. I guess that wouldn't technically be called a "phobia", but clearly you had a physical reaction that must have been brought on by some sort of anxiety or unconcious memory. I had something like that once, when I was about to give blood. They needed a small blood sample to determine my blood type, which they got by pricking my earlobe. I wasn't the least bit nervous about this, but when I saw the cloth with all that blood on it (earlobes bleed a lot), all of a sudden, I had a similar reaction to what you had at the vets. They almost didn't let me give blood when they saw my reaction to a simple pin prick. I had to do some serious arguing to convince them I'd be OK. (As it turned out, I had a bad reaction to giving blood, too, but for a totally different reason. I didn't get grossed out at all, but I think I had a sudden low blood sugar reaction, and got dizzy, weak, nauseous, and cold sweats at the end, after the pint of blood had been taken. They thought I was having an anxiety attack, and put a paper bag on my face, tried to talk me down, etc. Then they let me just lie there for about 90 minutes. I couldn't get up! Finally, someone gave me some food, and miraculously, I felt all better.) > When it came to his antibiotic, I crushed it up and mixed it in with > some Fancy Feast. He didn't even notice and gobbled it right up. Whew! Yeah, that's a relief! I hate having pill battles with cats. Talk about losing blood. > Then he decided he wanted out really, really badly. I wasn't going to > let him but in the end I caved because I figured it was raining anyway > and he wouldn't leave the covered area on the side of the house. This > is exactly what happened, I left the door open and checked frequently > and all he was doing was meatloafing on our steamer, next to the BBQ. Awww. Maybe it really *wasn't* that other cat. Purrs for a quick recovery! Joyce >> Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went >> fine. Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > reaction that must have been brought on by some sort of anxiety or > unconcious memory. I have a friend who's a nurse and she says that it's a stress reaction. Actually supposed to be quite common. The blood vessels in the brain suddenly constrict and you pass out. Whatever it is that causes it, it happens quite a lot. I cannot give blood, that just would never happen. When I get a shot, I have to be lying flat on my back while it's done. Then I'm ok. But if I'm sitting upright, I will pass out. Sometimes it's quite delayed too. I've felt fine, gotten up, walked away, and then passed out in the elevator on my way home! I also don't deal well with pain. The first time I tried to get my IUD, it was *extremely* painful and I passed out. The second time I took some valiums before going in, and even though I was screaming bloodly murder, I managed to hang in there. I was pretty close to passing out again though. Thinking back on that, I'm actually quite mad about the whole thing. I was talking to one of the ladies I work with and her daughter had an IUD put in and they put her under for it. I didn't get a single thing for pain control. Sheesh! >> Then he decided he wanted out really, really badly. I wasn't going >> to let him but in the end I caved because I figured it was raining [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Awww. Maybe it really *wasn't* that other cat. Well, the other cat doesn't always come over. I've only personally seen him 2-3 times. But I really can't think of any other way he would have gotten an injury like that. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album first time I tried to get my IUD, > it was *extremely* painful and I passed out. The second time I took > some valiums before going in, and even though I was screaming bloodly > murder, I managed to hang in there. I remember that mine didn't really hurt at all. Stung for a bit but that was it. What was more annoying was all my female colleagues at work assumed I wouldn't be well and dropped discreet hints to my male manager I might not be feeling well so in the end he made this big speech about appreciating me "soldering on" and sent me home. Mind you, no-one warned me that the thread might change position in a downwards direction and need shortened. It was Dave that found out that it did that, I think he was the one screaming bloody murder when he found out!!!! I'm sure you can all work out how he did it! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > first time I tried to get my IUD, >> it was *extremely* painful and I passed out. The second time I took [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > manager I might not be feeling well so in the end he made this big > speech about appreciating me "soldering on" and sent me home. Have you had kids? They say that if you have, it's no problem at all. But I've never had any kids, so maybe that's why it was so bad. > Mind you, no-one warned me that the thread might change position in a > downwards direction and need shortened. It was Dave that found out > that it did that, I think he was the one screaming bloody murder when > he found out!!!! I'm sure you can all work out how he did it! Poor Dave, but LOL! I am always afraid of a scenario like that, but so far, so good! SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Have you had kids? They say that if you have, it's no problem at all. > But I've never had any kids, so maybe that's why it was so bad. Nope only the furkids- I'd sooner have a cat than a baby any day of the week! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >> Have you had kids? They say that if you have, it's no problem at all. >> But I've never had any kids, so maybe that's why it was so bad. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I love our kids ( hers) but have to agree with you on that 100% >> Nope only the furkids- I'd sooner have a cat than a baby any day of >> the week! >> > I love our kids ( hers) but have to agree with you on that 100% I think I'd be more likely to consider kids if someone else would have 'em for me! (I've told DH before, if he wants 'em, he can have 'em!) Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>> Nope only the furkids- I'd sooner have a cat than a baby any day of >>> the week! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I think I'd be more likely to consider kids if someone else would have > 'em for me! Worked for me. DH's first marriage broke up in part cause they couldn't have kids. So I knew where we stood when we got married. I'm just grateful we didn't have to go through all the drama and discomfort of fertility doctors. Just started adoption paperwork as soon as it was practical. Given the health problems I've had, I'm just as glad I never shared them. Jo >> Have you had kids? They say that if you have, it's no problem at >> all. But I've never had any kids, so maybe that's why it was so bad. >> > Nope only the furkids- I'd sooner have a cat than a baby any day of > the week! LOL! My sentiments exactly. That's why I put up with all the pain to get this IUD in the first place. And when the 5 years are up, I'll be 38 and then Dennis can go to the "vet" and get snipped ;-) SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > LOL! My sentiments exactly. That's why I put up with all the pain to > get this IUD in the first place. And when the 5 years are up, I'll be > 38 and then Dennis can go to the "vet" and get snipped ;-) OK, I don't understand. What does *your* age have to do with Dennis getting a vasectomy? And what's the 5 years about? Joyce >> LOL! My sentiments exactly. That's why I put up with all the pain >> to get this IUD in the first place. And when the 5 years are up, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joyce Because at age 34, it's a bit early to make a permanent decision. I feel that once you do something permanent, your mind plays tricks on you and you end up wanting what you can't have. But I think that at 38, I'll be at that age where I'll be too old to really be wanting to start having kids, so it would be psychologically safe to take this permanent step. The 5 years is how long an IUD lasts. I had it put in when I was 33, so it will last until I'm 38. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > > OK, I don't understand. What does *your* age have to do with Dennis > > getting a vasectomy? And what's the 5 years about? > Because at age 34, it's a bit early to make a permanent decision. I > feel that once you do something permanent, your mind plays tricks on you > and you end up wanting what you can't have. But I think that at 38, > I'll be at that age where I'll be too old to really be wanting to start > having kids, so it would be psychologically safe to take this permanent > step. Oh, OK - that's your timeline. I thought this was something you got from the doctor or something. Yeah, that makes sense. I knew at 15 that I didn't want kids, but I still never did anything about it, in terms of getting sterilized. I just figured, might as well leave the option open in case I change my mind. Besides, why get myself cut open unless I absolutely need to?? (These days, you can get this kind of thing done laproscopically and it's not that big a deal, but when I was in my 20s it would have been major surgery.) > The 5 years is how long an IUD lasts. I had it put in when I was 33, so > it will last until I'm 38. Got it. Joyce > first time I tried to get my IUD, >> it was *extremely* painful and I passed out. The second time I took [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I'm sorry Lesley but ROTFL. How long did Dave's bruises last? SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > I'm sorry Lesley but ROTFL. How long did Dave's bruises last? He didn't get bruised- he got stabbed!!!! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Mind you, no-one warned me that the thread might change position in a > downwards direction and need shortened. It was Dave that found out that > it did that, I think he was the one screaming bloody murder when he > found out!!!! I'm sure you can all work out how he did it! Ouch!! :0 The only form of birth control I've ever used was the diaphragm. I'm really glad I never tried other methods like the IUD or pills, etc. I've heard so many horrible stories. Joyce > Ouch!! :0 > > The only form of birth control I've ever used was the diaphragm. I'm > really glad I never tried other methods like the IUD or pills, etc. > I've heard so many horrible stories. See, whereas spermicides give me infections, and I don't think I'd trust a diaphragm without 'em. I'm using a new method now -- it's a plastic-like ring that you insert. Unlike a diaphragm, positioning isn't important; it just releases hormones at a steady rate. DH suggested the ring shape gives it the tension to stay in place. Supposedly it doesn't need to release as much hormone into the body as the pill does, it's steady so you don't get the spike when the pill enters your system, and it's certainly convenient in that you can pretty much forget about it except for the once a month you put it in and the once a month you take it out. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Mind you, no-one warned me that the thread might change position in a >> downwards direction and need shortened. It was Dave that found out [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce Well, now that my IUD is in, I'm absolutely loving it. Best thing I ever did, especially since I researched and got this new IUD which releases a teeny tiny bit of hormone as well and this makes it so you don't get your period. The last one I had was in September. It's all worth it just for that major benefit :-) SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album "badwilson" <badSPAMwilson@yahoo.com> wrote in news:4gsq3uF1onq9gU1 @individual.net: > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. > Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > struggle. He's such a sweetie. He had to spend hours licking himself > to get his poor shaved patch into tiptop shape. (snip) Try not to let him lick the wound itself too much. Their sharp tongues can cause healing problems, which I learned from experience... Hope it heals nicely. Bobble >I know I have a stress response to needles and stuff. It's not that I >even think it's gross and I'm not scared. It's just a weird thing I >have. But anyway, it seems to be ok if I'm at home and sitting down, so >I'm glad about that. I think it might actually even be useful. I want to give this reaction to Baha and Enfilade in order to ensure that they don't hurt themselves. :) >Vino was a champ, he only made weird noises at me, but didn't really >struggle. He's such a sweetie. He had to spend hours licking himself >to get his poor shaved patch into tiptop shape. He's so sweet! The abscess sounds like one of those things like a blister or an ingrown hair that hurts less once the wound is opened. I'll bet it feels very comfortable having you clean him. > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. > Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Later we watched Wimbledon together for a bit, then he fell asleep on my > lap. I extricated myself but he's still asleep on the couch. Purrs on the way for the "golden boy". SignatureSam, closely supervised by Mistletoe I'm glad to see that it went better than at TED's. I am completely unable to deal with blood, gore and needles myself and know how you feel. But you do it because you have to ... Susan M Otis and Chester > Well, I'm glad to report that the wound cleaning this evening went fine. > Just as it had yesterday at home. I wonder if it went so badly for me at [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Later we watched Wimbledon together for a bit, then he fell asleep on my > lap. I extricated myself but he's still asleep on the couch. |
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