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wafflycat - 02 Jul 2006 22:42 GMT
Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
rpca'ers okay?

Cheers, helen s

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Christina Websell - 02 Jul 2006 22:49 GMT
> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
> rpca'ers okay?

I'm okay up to now apart from boiling in the heat here in Leics ;-)  30+C
(90f) here today.
Thanks for asking.

Tweed
sandra - 02 Jul 2006 23:30 GMT
Not one drop of rain here so far thanks! Brain fried with the heat, but
otherwise all is well!

sandra
Marina - 03 Jul 2006 04:32 GMT
> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
> rpca'ers okay?

Purrs for anyone affected.

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Adrian A - 03 Jul 2006 12:46 GMT
> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all
> UK rpca'ers okay?
>
> Cheers, helen s

We're OK on the east coast, no rain rain yet though it's needed.
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Lesley - 03 Jul 2006 13:15 GMT
> > Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all
> > UK rpca'ers okay?

Safe in London- would gladly travel anywhere with rain. As mum always
used to say "Horses sweat, gentlemen perspire but ladies only glow"

By that standard, I'm a pretty good each way bet for the next Grand
National!!!

We know it's the max on the STS (Sarrasine's tail scale). Sarrasine is
proud of her long tail and usually sleeps with it curled round her (a
sensible precaution) but the warmer it gets the more her tail droops
down and at the moment she's crashed out with her tail hanging limp and
away from her. She wasn't even interested in food this morning but the
water dish is emptying rapidly (I put some ice cubes in the water- good
meowmie! I'm popular at the moment!)

Lesley

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John F. Eldredge - 03 Jul 2006 16:16 GMT
>> > Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all
>> > UK rpca'ers okay?
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>water dish is emptying rapidly (I put some ice cubes in the water- good
>meowmie! I'm popular at the moment!)

You know it is really hot when you see an animal sleeping on its back,
all four legs in the air for maximum ventilation.  I once saw a tiger
at the zoo sleeping in that position, and it looked pretty comical.

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Shiral - 03 Jul 2006 21:08 GMT
> We know it's the max on the STS (Sarrasine's tail scale). Sarrasine is
> proud of her long tail and usually sleeps with it curled round her (a
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>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Sounds like an outbreak of Flat Cat Syndrome has hit Britain!

Melissa
Lesley - 04 Jul 2006 11:25 GMT
> Sounds like an outbreak of Flat Cat Syndrome has hit Britain!

Totally flat cat! This morning Sarrasine was sprawled over the boxes on
top of the wardrobe completely flat and not moving for anyone. Trouble
is she's very good at it and I had a sudden panic because normally she
wakes up when I do..You know the one where you start thinking things
like "she's 3 years old and perfectly healthy- get a grip on yourself
woman!" because she isn't answering to calls or tapping noises...She's
so good at this that as a kitten, Dave found her lying there apparently
unresponsive so he picked her up and she was completely limp. He was
just starting to wonder how to do the kiss of life on a kitten when one
eye opened and she made that noise that plainly says "F**k off, I was
asleep there!"

Redunzel's just complaining about the heat

Lesley

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Jul 2006 17:31 GMT
>>Sounds like an outbreak of Flat Cat Syndrome has hit Britain!
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> eye opened and she made that noise that plainly says "F**k off, I was
> asleep there!"

LOL!  More than once, I've had to check to be sure one of
mine was breathing, because it was doing such a good
immitation of "dead thing in the middle of the road"!
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 19:22 GMT
> LOL!  More than once, I've had to check to be sure one of mine was
> breathing, because it was doing such a good immitation of "dead
> thing in the middle of the road"!

We were talking about cats hunting, and how patient they are (at least
the successful ones), at work yesterday, and my co-worker said,
"There's a very fine line between a cat who's asleep and one who's
hunting."

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Christina Websell - 04 Jul 2006 19:47 GMT
>> LOL!  More than once, I've had to check to be sure one of mine was
>> breathing, because it was doing such a good immitation of "dead
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> "There's a very fine line between a cat who's asleep and one who's
> hunting."

LOL!  It's not  *exactly* true.  Boyfie was helping me with the chickens
this morning and he was meatloafing on the path.  I knew he'd seen something
by the position of his ears and his body language.  Suddenly he sprang and
rushed at what seemed 100 mph, the blackbird escaped ;-)

What your co-worker said might apply more to catching mice.

Tweed
David Stevenson - 03 Jul 2006 17:12 GMT
>Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all
>UK rpca'ers okay?

  It was a pretty wet drive from Harrogate to the Wirral last night,
certainly.

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Kreisleriana - 03 Jul 2006 17:30 GMT
>Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
>rpca'ers okay?
>
>Cheers, helen s

We are having them in the Northeast US, too.  

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Adrian A - 03 Jul 2006 17:51 GMT
>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think)
>> all UK rpca'ers okay?
>>
>> Cheers, helen s
>
> We are having them in the Northeast US, too.

I saw on te news last night, several people had been killed in Romania due
to flooding, it looked pretty bad there. There's nothing anyone can do about
the weather. :-(
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David Stevenson - 04 Jul 2006 01:03 GMT
>Kreisleriana wrote:
>>
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>to flooding, it looked pretty bad there. There's nothing anyone can do about
>the weather. :-(

  Sadly untrue.

  There is little doubt that weather extremes are a consequence of
global warming which is why a majority of countries are trying to stop
it.  However, it does need more people to do so.

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Adrian A - 04 Jul 2006 11:24 GMT
>> Kreisleriana wrote:
>>>
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> global warming which is why a majority of countries are trying to stop
> it.  However, it does need more people to do so.

I agree that a lot of the extreme weather is due, in part at least, to
global warming caused by human activity. What I meant was, during the bad
weather there's not much an individual can do. I see parts of Italy are
suffering now.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 19:20 GMT
>    Sadly untrue.
>
>    There is little doubt that weather extremes are a consequence of
>    global warming which is why a majority of countries are trying to
>    stop it.  However, it does need more people to do so.

I believe 100% that our behaviors have impacted the climate.

I don't believe that the short time in which we've been monitoring
temperatures and other aspects of climate is great enough to establish
any kind of a trend.  A few decades isn't even a blip to the history
of the Earth.

Or, seen another way, if we've damaged the climate that badly, we're
probably screwed.  So we'd better hope that this is a temporary blip,
while also learning to behave in environmentally sound ways to
preserve the Earth for future generations of humans.  (I'm quite sure
life will continue on the earth; we jut might not be around to
catalogue the species anymore.)

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Jeanette - 03 Jul 2006 22:21 GMT
> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
> rpca'ers okay?
>
> Cheers, helen s

The storm passed by Preston, high and threatening. It broke when it hit the
hills, so the Pennine villages were hit hard, and Manchester got it too.

Jeanette
mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 04 Jul 2006 15:53 GMT
It's just poured down for about an hour in London (East) but doesn't
feel any fresher for it.  Went to Brighton yesterday with my Aussie
nephew and it was roasting (even for him), but lovely to get a bit of a
sea breeze.  Back to work in town tomorrow which I'm dreading if the
heatwave continues, have had an amazing week off.  Been to Epping
Forest, Richmond Park, Brighton, St James's Park and seen loads of baby
ducks and swans, aah!  The nephew is in for a shock, as he's just gone
to the airport to meet in his girlfiend.  She didn't believe that we
are having a heatwave, and in the time it's taken him to get to the
airport and back, it's been sunny, thunder and lightning and is now
sunny again.  I knew it would happen because I'd just hung out the
washing and watered the garden!

Marcia

> > Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
> > rpca'ers okay?
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>
> Jeanette
Lesley - 04 Jul 2006 16:27 GMT
> It's just poured down for about an hour in London (East) but doesn't
> feel any fresher for it.

I didn't know you were in East London- where?

Lesley

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Shirley - 04 Jul 2006 17:04 GMT
We've just had a very violent thunder storm. To be honest I was quite
scared, the hailstones were over a 1/4" in diameter and made so much
noise on the conservatory roof I was sure they were going to shatter
it (it's polycarbonate thankfully and not glass). The gutters couldn't
cope with the amount of water and it was cascading off the roof onto
the conservatory and then onto the patio - it was like being in a
waterfall.

Chris's runnerbean plants, which were in full flower yesterday, are
now just stalks with  leaves like lace, and my hanging baskets are
'flat'.........at least we wont have to water the garden tomorrow.

We're waiting for the rain to stop before we go out and see if any
thing else is damaged - the conservatory roof may need attention as
water came in at the back where it buts up against the wall.

The temperature has gone down a bit (now 70f it was 90f) but the
humidity hasn't, the forecast is for more storms tomorrow what fun!

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Jul 2006 17:36 GMT
> It's just poured down for about an hour in London (East) but doesn't
> feel any fresher for it.  Went to Brighton yesterday with my Aussie
> nephew and it was roasting (even for him), but lovely to get a bit of a
> sea breeze.

That's another effect of global warming - until the last
couple of summers, most of Europe did not NEED
air-conditioning in summer!  Neither your winters nor your
summers were anywhere near as extreme as those in most of
the U.S..  (Of course, I don't include the Scandinavian
countries when it comes to winter - although I think the
reason so many Swedes and Norwegians settled in Minnesota
and Wisconsin was because they were used to similar winters.)

  Back to work in town tomorrow which I'm dreading if the
> heatwave continues, have had an amazing week off.  Been to Epping
> Forest, Richmond Park, Brighton, St James's Park and seen loads of baby
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>>Jeanette
Christina Websell - 05 Jul 2006 19:22 GMT
> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think) all UK
> rpca'ers okay?

The storms hit Leics today, pretty spectacular ones they were too.
Big bangs that almost vibrated my house, lots of lightning and really
torrential rain.   To get from my house down to the village I have to drive
on a single track road under a railway bridge which is now totally
impassable due to flooding.
The upside of the storms is that the temperature has dropped dramatically
from the 90's to 60 and I won't have to water my garden tonight.
The downside was that it was my day off and I couldn't really do anything
outside.
One amusement "us locals" sometimes indulge in (we're a sick bunch really
;-)) is to go down to the railway bridge when it's flooded and watch
non-locals decide whether or not to risk driving their cars through to avoid
a long detour.   Most are sensible and turn back but you get the occasional
one who will go for it.  Then their car dies right under the bridge and they
have to get out and paddle.  If they are on their own, they are in a bit of
trouble because they need to push the car uphill through the water and they
can't do it.
In order to drive it home to these folks who are too impatient to take a two
mile detour (they have a car, they don't have to walk it!)  us locals will
often stand as a group nearby and say "Awww, you never shudda done it, now
what you gonna do?"
If there are any kind men there, they will often take off their footwear,
roll up their trousers and help push the car out with a warning about being
stupid.
If only children are there (this is common, the local children love it) then
they just have to get on their mobile phones to a garage to be towed out.
Never seen the same car stuck twice..
I told my neighbour he would be on to a good earner to take his big 4X4 down
there when the bridge was flooded and charge half what a garage would to tow
them out.  He wouldn't have to wait long for a customer.

Tweed
Shirley - 05 Jul 2006 23:01 GMT
>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think)
>> all UK rpca'ers okay?
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Tweed

We had more rain today but nothing like yesterday, did you see Luton
on the news, some poor souls came home from work to find 2ft of
hailstones in their gardens.

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Adrian A - 06 Jul 2006 10:02 GMT
>>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think)
>>> all UK rpca'ers okay?
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> on the news, some poor souls came home from work to find 2ft of
> hailstones in their gardens.

Still waiting for rain here on the Yorkshire coast, we really need it.
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Karen - 06 Jul 2006 14:58 GMT
> >>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think)
> >>> all UK rpca'ers okay?
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> Still waiting for rain here on the Yorkshire coast, we really need it.

Why can't rain fall where it's needed!! instead of flooding places :(
Christina Websell - 06 Jul 2006 17:46 GMT
>> >>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I think)
>> >>> all UK rpca'ers okay?
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Why can't rain fall where it's needed!! instead of flooding places :(

Dunno!  That's one of life's mysteries..
Same again today, big storms which knocked out our telephones and computer
system at work.  Which is scary as we are the lead service for child
protection work in this county.  The phones were up when I left to go home
but the computers are fried.  They are essential as they have all our
records on and what is going on at the moment, who has what case, etc etc.
My memory has had to work overtime today about what referrals I have
recently seen to say where they might be at this present moment when someone
else phones in about it.  I can't remember them all, not 300 a month!  I can
remember most, but not all the ins and outs of them, and without the
computer I cannot track what is happening.
There should be a better back up system than this.  A power cut should not
prevent us from accessing the necessary information to protect children.  It
wouldn't in an immediate crisis, as we'd go out anyway but it can be useful
to know that dad is an axe murderer recently out of prison.
<rant over>
Sorry.  I feel strongly about the reliance on computers/electricity in this
line of work.

Tweed
Shirley - 06 Jul 2006 22:55 GMT
>> >>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I
>> >>> think)
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> Why can't rain fall where it's needed!! instead of flooding places
> :(

Oh, we needed it just not 6 months worth in an hour. :-(

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Adrian A - 06 Jul 2006 23:20 GMT
>>>>>> Some parts of UK hit by flash floods (north & north west I
>>>>>> think)
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>
> Oh, we needed it just not 6 months worth in an hour. :-(

We're still waiting, there was thunder near by earlier this evening with a
very few spots of rain for 5 minutes, then it cleared up and has been dry
since then. The hedgehogs have been here again this evening, eating the food
and drinking the water provided for them. I worry about the birds and
animals that are having difficulty finding water.
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John F. Eldredge - 08 Jul 2006 04:44 GMT
>I told my neighbour he would be on to a good earner to take his big 4X4 down
>there when the bridge was flooded and charge half what a garage would to tow
>them out.  He wouldn't have to wait long for a customer.

I have read that, when automobiles were first invented and were
basically toys for the rich, and country roads were still mostly just
unimproved dirt roads, farmers would sometimes flood a section of road
to make a deep mud patch, so that they could be paid for bringing a
team of horses or oxen to tow a car out of the mud.  The folks who
lived nearby knew which sections of road to avoid, so they weren't as
badly inconvenienced as travelers were.

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