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Takayuki - 02 Jul 2006 02:02 GMT
After hearing Smudge's story, and its wonderful conclusion, I was
wondering if people had any opinions about pet tracking collars.  I've
noted at least two:

http://www.scottcountry.co.uk/products_detail.asp?productID=1160
http://www.thecatlocator.com

The LoCATer sounds like the better system, having a longer battery
life, less bulky collar, and a litle less expensive, but a little less
range.  About $50 for a collar and $200 for a receiver, and $20 for a
pack of 12 (a year's worth) collar batteries.

I wonder if they could make a product like this using transponders
(similar to pet ID chips).  I remember hearing years ago about how
they tagged butterflies with transponders to track them.  Light,
rugged, and doesn't need batteries for the tag, but limited in range,
I think.
Karen - 02 Jul 2006 03:01 GMT
> After hearing Smudge's story, and its wonderful conclusion, I was
> wondering if people had any opinions about pet tracking collars.  I've
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> rugged, and doesn't need batteries for the tag, but limited in range,
> I think.

I almost think for a cat you would have to have something implanted.
Seems like that should be possible. I think it would not even have to
be a big range. MOST cats are within 3 blocks when missing (my vet told
me anyway). Look at Smudge, she wasn't far at all.
Takayuki - 02 Jul 2006 04:26 GMT
>I almost think for a cat you would have to have something implanted.
>Seems like that should be possible. I think it would not even have to
>be a big range. MOST cats are within 3 blocks when missing (my vet told
>me anyway). Look at Smudge, she wasn't far at all.

I'd guess that the range that you could get with a transponder would
be a block or half a block.  Maybe good enough to find a cat.  The
radio collars apparently have a maximum range of over half a mile,
although that extreme range I assume would need almost a clean line of
sight.

I don't know if it would be practical today to have implantable
transponders with that range, because they need antennas to get their
increased range.  Even with the butterflies, they needed an antenna on
the transponder that was an inch or so long, but it didn't bother the
butterflies because the wire was light and thin.  I use one of those
transponder ID badges at work, and I once had one stop working, except
at extremely short range.  It turned out the wire inside the badge (a
loop of thin copper laid flat inside the card) came loose from the
chip.
Jo Firey - 02 Jul 2006 03:12 GMT
> After hearing Smudge's story, and its wonderful conclusion, I was
> wondering if people had any opinions about pet tracking collars.  I've
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> rugged, and doesn't need batteries for the tag, but limited in range,
> I think.

It is really a tough call to decide how much range you need.  I'd guess most
cats never go more the a quarter mile from where they start out.

Distance dogs however, like my brother's Husky are likely to be many miles
away within an hour.

Jo
Takayuki - 02 Jul 2006 04:34 GMT
>It is really a tough call to decide how much range you need.  I'd guess most
>cats never go more the a quarter mile from where they start out.
>
>Distance dogs however, like my brother's Husky are likely to be many miles
>away within an hour.

I think the first one is more for dogs, being larger and more
powerful.  I can just imagine how far a husky can run off, considering
how long they can pull a sled.
Jo Firey - 02 Jul 2006 05:56 GMT
>>It is really a tough call to decide how much range you need.  I'd guess
>>most
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> powerful.  I can just imagine how far a husky can run off, considering
> how long they can pull a sled.

And add to that that they tend to run in a straight line.  Any other dog
will circle and stop to investigate things, etc.

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Jul 2006 03:56 GMT
> http://www.scottcountry.co.uk/products_detail.asp?productID=1160
> http://www.thecatlocator.com

> The LoCATer sounds like the better system, having a longer battery
> life, less bulky collar, and a litle less expensive, but a little less
> range.  About $50 for a collar and $200 for a receiver, and $20 for a
> pack of 12 (a year's worth) collar batteries.

I was really wishing I had something like this when Smudge was missing.
I watch plenty of nature shows, where scientists put these collars on
mountain lions and so forth, so I know that felines can live with them.

I agree the the LoCATer looks a little better - the collar on the other
one looks much to bulky. It's a bit pricey for me right now, but it's
worth considering. Smudge already wants to go out again, the crazy cat!

(I'm keeping her in for a while, though, until she's feeling a little
stronger, and I would like to get her microchipped, too.)

Joyce
Takayuki - 02 Jul 2006 04:41 GMT
>I was really wishing I had something like this when Smudge was missing.
>I watch plenty of nature shows, where scientists put these collars on
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>(I'm keeping her in for a while, though, until she's feeling a little
>stronger, and I would like to get her microchipped, too.)

Don't you really wish, when they're gone?  You must have felt so
helpless.  We all did too!  I couldn't let a cat out here, because
there's a little through street less than a quarter mile away where
cars go about 35 mph.  Well, people let out their cats here anyway,
but I've almost hit them a couple of times.  Can you imagine how bad
I'd feel if I actually did?  And that even something as simple as a
garage can be such a hazard...  It would just be too hard.

It's really a good idea to get Smudge chipped.  You've already had a
couple of these close calls.  If a samaritan happens to drop her off
at a vet because she's hurt, the chip could save her life if it helps
them get in touch with you quickly.
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jul 2006 07:18 GMT
> Don't you really wish, when they're gone?  You must have felt so
> helpless.  We all did too!  I couldn't let a cat out here, because
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> I'd feel if I actually did?  And that even something as simple as a
> garage can be such a hazard...  It would just be too hard.

I was driving along in my neighborhood at the posted 25 mph, watching
carefully as there are children who like to dart out into the road etc
... a cat, presumably spooked by a gaggle of children nearby, darted
out into the road right in front of my car.  I managed to miss the
little guy, but I really wish he weren't outside.  At twilight, being
so small, these cats are almost invisible.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Jul 2006 10:09 GMT
> It's really a good idea to get Smudge chipped.  You've already had a
> couple of these close calls.  If a samaritan happens to drop her off
> at a vet because she's hurt, the chip could save her life if it helps
> them get in touch with you quickly.

I swear, that cat gets herself into more trouble. She doesn't even have
to go outside to do it. One time she was sleeping in the window, which
was open maybe 12 inches, and leaning against the screen. Suddenly, the
screen popped out (it's the kind that's screwed onto the window from
outside), and she fell out and onto the ground. OK, that could have
happened to any cat - Roxy also likes to sleep in that window when it's
open - but Smudge is just the kind of curious, exploring type of cat
who gets herself into scrapes.

There are these two cats who live on my street. They're outside all
the time, and nothing ever happens to them. I've concluded that it's
because they're not very adventurous, and they just hang out in front
of their house and don't do much. But when Smudge was missing, I
remember thinking how unfair it was that I've seen these cats outdoors
for 7 years (since I moved here), but in 6 months of being indoor/
outdoor, mine goes missing! She's just not content to hang out and
watch the world go by - she always has to be *doing* something, checking
stuff out. Too smart for her own good.

Joyce
Jo Firey - 02 Jul 2006 15:13 GMT
> > It's really a good idea to get Smudge chipped.  You've already had a
> > couple of these close calls.  If a samaritan happens to drop her off
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> watch the world go by - she always has to be *doing* something, checking
> stuff out. Too smart for her own good.

Those nice cats that hang out around home and stay out of trouble may very
well have learned to do that the hard way.

Jo
Marina - 02 Jul 2006 04:38 GMT
> After hearing Smudge's story, and its wonderful conclusion, I was
> wondering if people had any opinions about pet tracking collars.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> rugged, and doesn't need batteries for the tag, but limited in range,
>  I think.

I used to translate the webpages of a project that tracked Ospreys via
satellite. They had solar-powered transmitters to strap on the ospreys'
backs. That would only work outside, but most cats that get lost get
lost outside, I would think. Maybe the battery would retain enough power
even if the cat was inside, like Smudge was.

(If you want to read more about them, it starts here:
http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/english/zoology/satelliteospreys/index.htm)

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Takayuki - 02 Jul 2006 05:00 GMT
>I used to translate the webpages of a project that tracked Ospreys via
>satellite. They had solar-powered transmitters to strap on the ospreys'
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>(If you want to read more about them, it starts here:
>http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/english/zoology/satelliteospreys/index.htm)

Thanks, that's interesting, and those are about the most beautiful
birds I've seen.  They don't seem to talk all that much about it, but
it must be some interesting technology they're using, if they can make
a lightweight transmitter that's both energy efficient and allows
satellite tracking.
 
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