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Monique Y. Mudama - 01 Jul 2006 15:17 GMT I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night that it's new behavior and might indicate an injury. And that's when I remembered that I'd stepped on her a few days ago.
She's not a big fan of having her paws messed with, but I've been able to gently bend the ankle joint back and forth and gently squeeze the paw without a major reaction from her.
She's definitely walking on it; she may be favoring it just slightly, but it may also be that I'm just imagining that.
Naturally, this didn't come up till late Friday evening, and our vet is closed on the weekends. I could of course go to an emergency clinic, but this seems to be pretty minor. Any thoughts?
She's doing it again. Specifically she's licking the pads or somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself some sort of rash.
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Cheryl Perkins - 01 Jul 2006 15:40 GMT <snip>
> She's definitely walking on it; she may be favoring it just slightly, > but it may also be that I'm just imagining that.
> Naturally, this didn't come up till late Friday evening, and our vet > is closed on the weekends. I could of course go to an emergency > clinic, but this seems to be pretty minor. Any thoughts?
> She's doing it again. Specifically she's licking the pads or > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself > some sort of rash. If she's walking on the paw and doesn't seem in pain when you move it, I would think it could wait until regular vet hours - by which time the licking might have stopped.
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Adrian A - 01 Jul 2006 17:04 GMT > I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but just > thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself > some sort of rash. Purrs that the paw licking turns out to be nothing to worry about.
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mlbriggs - 01 Jul 2006 17:34 GMT > I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but just > thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself > some sort of rash. Have you been able to examine the claws to see if they are intact? Or if a claw may have penetrated a pad? MLB
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jul 2006 06:39 GMT > Have you been able to examine the claws to see if they are intact? > Or if a claw may have penetrated a pad? MLB Not very easily. Claws appear to be in good condition, unbroken and not long enough to have hurt her. The inspection caused Oscar to make noises kind of like a sprinkler system just starting up. Definitely not a happy kitty. (DH can hold her belly-up like a baby, and she puts up with it. I try it and she uses foul language. I told him it's because animals tend to have great tolerance for abuse by children, and she must think he's a great big little kid.)
Her pads seem warm, but all four paws seem fairly warm. I can't now recall whether her paws normally feel warm. The one paw she's licking so much doesn't seem warmer than the rest. It may be a little swollen -- hard to tell with all the fur and her distinct dislike of me messing with her legs.
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Winnie - 02 Jul 2006 14:03 GMT > Not very easily. Claws appear to be in good condition, unbroken and > not long enough to have hurt her. The inspection caused Oscar to make [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > because animals tend to have great tolerance for abuse by children, > and she must think he's a great big little kid.) I once saw a cat being carried like that at a cat show. I started carrying Rusty like that. He didn't mind, just stared up at me.
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mlbriggs - 22 Jul 2006 18:58 GMT >> Have you been able to examine the claws to see if they are intact? >> Or if a claw may have penetrated a pad? MLB [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- hard to tell with all the fur and her distinct dislike of me > messing with her legs. One time when Princess (RB 16) seemed to be favoring a paw, I decided to check (not easy) and discovered one of her claws had grown into the pad. The Vet's assistant had to hold her while the Vet cut it out. I felt I was responsible for not being more attentive, but she was always so sweet. MLB
Jo Firey - 01 Jul 2006 19:01 GMT >I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but just > thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself > some sort of rash. I'd just watch her for the weekend. I'd guess there is some bruising and she is comforting herself.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 01 Jul 2006 21:01 GMT > She's doing it again. Specifically she's licking the pads or > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause > herself some sort of rash. Just now Oscar was sitting on her cat tree, so I got a good look at her face. I had a slight suspicion. Sure enough, a tiny bit of her ECG.
The ECG never seems to bother her, but now I'm definitely taking her to the vet on Monday.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 01 Jul 2006 21:21 GMT > Just now Oscar was sitting on her cat tree, so I got a good look at > her face. I had a slight suspicion. Sure enough, a tiny bit of her > ECG. What's that? Some sort of exzema?
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Monique Y. Mudama - 01 Jul 2006 21:33 GMT > > Just now Oscar was sitting on her cat tree, so I got a good look > > at her face. I had a slight suspicion. Sure enough, a tiny bit > > of her ECG. > > What's that? Some sort of exzema? Kind of hard to explain, because even the vets don't seem to know much about it. EGC, Eosinophilic Granuloma Complex ... it's a type of lesion or rash. All of the pictures on the web look pretty awful -- on Oscar it's a little reddening on her chin that becomes more swollen and pronounced. It looks a little bit scabby this time.
A steroid shot tends to make it disappear very quickly for Oscar.
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Winnie - 02 Jul 2006 01:09 GMT > > > Just now Oscar was sitting on her cat tree, so I got a good look > > > at her face. I had a slight suspicion. Sure enough, a tiny bit [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully Rusty, who hates going to TED, is purring for Oscar.
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> pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Cheryl - 02 Jul 2006 01:30 GMT > Kind of hard to explain, because even the vets don't seem to > know much about it. EGC, Eosinophilic Granuloma Complex ... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > A steroid shot tends to make it disappear very quickly for > Oscar. That's what I was wondering. I had to take in Rhett for excessive licking of the paw pads a while back, and his were red and swollen, almost looking like they were burned. The licking did the most damage, but they itched or hurt, so of course he'd lick them. Just recently I took him in for excessive licking of his private area because there's just too many reasons for that type of licking, and again, it's like an allergy. So he got a depo shot (same as TED did for his swollen paw pads) and the raw area was infected so he's on antibiotics. It's so funny to pick up this huge cat who doesn't like to be picked up because he'll rest in my arms and stare me straight in the eyes with my face within biting distance. I doubt he'd bite me, but he looks scary the way he stares at me. I make it a quick business to give him his pill and then snuggle him for a few seconds, then let him down where he's comfortable.
I think in his case it's food related. He likes to tease Bonnie and snarf up her food when I put it down for her and her dry food is California Natural with a little Pro Plan for taste because she won't eat plain CN anymore, and doesn't make enough of a meal out of her canned meals. I'm cutting out the Pro Plan and sprinkling on some of Rhett's SD Sensitive Stomach since he ate that for so long without problems, and she sneaks some of his sometimes and it doesn't seem to bother her to eat it.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jul 2006 06:49 GMT > That's what I was wondering. I had to take in Rhett for excessive > licking of the paw pads a while back, and his were red and swollen, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for his swollen paw pads) and the raw area was infected so he's on > antibiotics. Right now it definitely appears to be one particular paw. Fortunately it's the one paw that has a large peach-colored splotch on it, so it's easy to identify.
I saw some anti-itch meds in the drs. foster & smith catalogue ... wonder if my vet would recommend that. Of course I don't have any here, so not much good at the moment.
> It's so funny to pick up this huge cat who doesn't like > to be picked up because he'll rest in my arms and stare me straight > in the eyes with my face within biting distance. I doubt he'd bite > me, but he looks scary the way he stares at me. I make it a quick > business to give him his pill and then snuggle him for a few > seconds, then let him down where he's comfortable. I don't know if the word "funny" is quite appropriate ... scary sounds right!
> I think in his case it's food related. He likes to tease Bonnie and > snarf up her food when I put it down for her and her dry food is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > without problems, and she sneaks some of his sometimes and it > doesn't seem to bother her to eat it. I don't think it's food related for Oscar, and I've switched her to using ceramic bowls for water and plates for food. The plates are switched every meal and washed; the bowls less frequently, but still pretty often. No plastic for her anymore.
I wonder if she is having a stress-related outbreak, with all of the stuff our household has been dealing with lately. Surely she feels our stress levels. I find it interesting that her condition has the word granuloma in it, and the thing they found in the biopsy of my cecum that proved I have Crohn's is also called a granuloma.
http://www.ndif.org/Terms/granuloma.html
"An imprecise term applied to (1) any small nodular delimited aggregation of mononuclear inflammatory cells, or (2) such a collection of modified macrophages resembling epithelial cells, usually surrounded by a rim of lymphocytes, often with multinucleated giant cells. Some granulomas contain eosinophils and plasma cells, and fibrosis is commonly seen around the lesion. Granuloma formation represents a chronic inflammatory response initiated by various infectious and noninfectious agents."
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Winnie - 02 Jul 2006 14:08 GMT > I wonder if she is having a stress-related outbreak, with all of the > stuff our household has been dealing with lately. Surely she feels > our stress levels. I find it interesting that her condition has the > word granuloma in it, and the thing they found in the biopsy of my > cecum that proved I have Crohn's is also called a granuloma. I think cats definitely can pick up on our stress. I remember when I lost my job, Rusty had health problems. At first the vet diagnosed it as renal insufficiency and warned me he could go downhill very quickly. That got me more stressed. But eventual and lastest tests showed his kidneys are fine, and it was a mis-diagnosis. At the time, the vet said there was definitely something wrong. Turned out I gave Rusty lots of water because of his history of urinary blockages that his urine was very diluted. Which led the vet to think it was his kidneys.
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> monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Jul 2006 03:47 GMT > Kind of hard to explain, because even the vets don't seem to know much > about it. EGC, Eosinophilic Granuloma Complex ... it's a type of > lesion or rash. All of the pictures on the web look pretty awful -- > on Oscar it's a little reddening on her chin that becomes more swollen > and pronounced. It looks a little bit scabby this time.
> A steroid shot tends to make it disappear very quickly for Oscar. Poor girl! Will you be able to get her to the vet soon for a shot?
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Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jul 2006 04:02 GMT > > Kind of hard to explain, because even the vets don't seem to know > > much about it. EGC, Eosinophilic Granuloma Complex ... it's a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce Unless it gets drastically work, I'll call Monday and get an appointment at our vet.
If I go to an emergency clinic over the weekend, I wouldn't be able to get an appointment, and as just about anything would probably be more urgent than what she has right now, we'd probably be in line for hours. Less stressful to take her Monday.
She's sacked out on a chair right now. I like that because it means she's not licking her paw.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 01 Jul 2006 21:30 GMT > Just now Oscar was sitting on her cat tree, so I got a good look at > her face. I had a slight suspicion. Sure enough, a tiny bit of her > ECG. > > The ECG never seems to bother her, but now I'm definitely taking her > to the vet on Monday. I mean EGC, of course.
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polonca12000 - 01 Jul 2006 22:22 GMT > I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but just > thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself > some sort of rash. We are purring and sending best wishes it is nothing serious. Maybe just watch it for a day or two and see what happens. Polonca and Soncek
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 02 Jul 2006 03:04 GMT > I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but just > thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > somewhere under the paw. I'm a little worried she will cause herself > some sort of rash. Is it possible that a claw got split, when you stepped on her? That would be annoying enough (but not neccessarily painful) to prompt the licking, but would right itself in time, when she sheds that claw sheath (as they do, periodically).
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jul 2006 06:17 GMT > Is it possible that a claw got split, when you stepped on her? That > would be annoying enough (but not neccessarily painful) to prompt > the licking, but would right itself in time, when she sheds that > claw sheath (as they do, periodically). It's possible, but she's always been squirmy about being examined, and she's particularly squirmy right now. If DH were here, I would have him hold her while I looked or vice versa, but he won't be back before I take her to the vet.
Honestly, because I saw her lip look a little swollen, I suspect it's the EGC showing up in a new place. That's unfortunate, but so far the lip has responded very well to a steroid shot, so I hope the paw will, too.
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Karen - 02 Jul 2006 18:34 GMT >> Is it possible that a claw got split, when you stepped on her? That >> would be annoying enough (but not neccessarily painful) to prompt [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > lip has responded very well to a steroid shot, so I hope the paw will, > too. Oh that is possible. I didn't think of that! Sugar has not seemed to have had a flare up since winter. Hers went away on it's own. She seems very restless and bored these days and I don't know why! I think maybe she can't sleep as well because she is itchy?
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 07:23 GMT >> Honestly, because I saw her lip look a little swollen, I suspect >> it's the EGC showing up in a new place. That's unfortunate, but so [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > seems very restless and bored these days and I don't know why! I > think maybe she can't sleep as well because she is itchy? Her lip looked pretty bad today.
Did you just let Sugar's EGC run its course? I've tried to get Oscar a shot before it looked too nasty ... so far I guess she's had maybe three outbreaks, about one every 6 months ...
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Karen - 04 Jul 2006 17:42 GMT >>> Honestly, because I saw her lip look a little swollen, I suspect >>> it's the EGC showing up in a new place. That's unfortunate, but so [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > a shot before it looked too nasty ... so far I guess she's had maybe > three outbreaks, about one every 6 months ... Sugar's had started receding by the time I took her in (black cat, black lip, I really wasn't sure it was swollen for few days). I think the vet was happy because they don't like giving the depo shots a lot. My vet gave us chlorapamirine for allergies, but with Sugar's touchy tummy, that seemed to upset her, so I haven't been giving it. I'm wondering if I should try again, but here we spent all last night up with her being sick and not feeling well :( I am taking her to the vet tomorrow. I gave her a .25 pepcid this morning and she is doing better now. I don't know *what* is wrong with her! It's so frustrating :(
polonca12000 - 04 Jul 2006 21:50 GMT <snip> we spent all last night up with her being
> sick and not feeling well :( I am taking her to the vet tomorrow. I > gave her a .25 pepcid this morning and she is doing better now. I don't > know *what* is wrong with her! It's so frustrating :( Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
Monique Y. Mudama - 09 Jul 2006 16:22 GMT >> Did you just let Sugar's EGC run its course? I've tried to get >> Oscar a shot before it looked too nasty ... so far I guess she's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and she is doing better now. I don't know *what* is wrong with her! > It's so frustrating :( Oscar's lip looks a lot better; I'm not sure if it did that on its own or if it reacted to the antibiotics or the steroid cream on her paw.
I'm so glad that you now have a handle on why Sugar is ill. Does the EGC bother her at all? Oscar doesn't seem to care at all when she gets an outbreak; eats the same, plays the same, no apparent behavioral effect. So if it comes down to choosing between treating anything that's bothering her vs. the EGC, I'll worry about the EGC later.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 19:05 GMT > I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but > just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night > that it's new behavior and might indicate an injury. And that's > when I remembered that I'd stepped on her a few days ago. We saw TED. Oscar wasn't happy about this; I have the puncture wounds to prove it.
Nothing definitive on the paws; the lip may be EGC or may just be irritation from licking so much. Oscar has an E collar and I am somehow supposed to get the pink stuff in her mouth twice a day for a week. When the vet gave her the first dose, it flew out of her mouth at a much greater velocity than it went in. Fortunately the E collar caught most of it. The vet said the standard dosage is 1/2 to 1 mg per pound of cat; they always do 1 mg and figure half will get into the cat.
DH was laughing it up pretty hard from Arizona until I pointed out that if I can't manage on my own, he'll have to come back and help out.
If the E collar doesn't work in keeping her away from her paws, I'll have to tape a baby sock on her instead -- right. I really hope the E collar stays on and keeps her from being able to reach those paws. For one thing, I don't think I'd survive trying to put socks on my cat. For another, it limits the pink spray when trying to give her the antibiotics.
Frankly, I think I'm screwed anyway. Oscar is actually much more sedate at the vet's than at home, and she was a complete terror at the vet's today.
Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so far.
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Joy - 03 Jul 2006 19:17 GMT > > I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but > > just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. Purrs that she adjust to the collar and takes the medicine more easily than you expect, and that the week passes quickly.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 19:34 GMT > Purrs that she adjust to the collar and takes the medicine more > easily than you expect, and that the week passes quickly. Thank you. There has been an eery silence for a while now, and I can't postpone going to work much longer. She won't even respond to shaking the treat can. I'm 98% sure that she's fine and just hiding/sulking, but 2% worried that somehow she could be in trouble due to the collar, choking or otherwise caught on something.
You know how it is, though -- she doesn't want to be found, so I can't find her. I keep hearing the zippers on the bottom of my track pants and thinking it's her collar, but no luck.
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Winnie - 03 Jul 2006 20:38 GMT > We saw TED. Oscar wasn't happy about this; I have the puncture wounds > to prove it. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. Purrs going out to you and Oscar. I know how difficult it is to give medicine to a cat. I have enough with medicating Rusty. You may want to give some yogurt to Oscar if she will eat it. Rusty sometimes get the run when on antibiotics. Good thing he loves yogurt. You may also want to keep a close eye on Oscar when you are home. Make sure there are no narrow passages for her to get the E collar caught on. You probably shouldn't let Oscar go outside when she is wearing the E collar. My mother's cat Scruffy was very upset when he wore the collar. When he was eventually done with the collar, he went outside and disappeared. He never came home and was never found. I don't think it was from his being upset with the collar. He was with my mom for 9-10 years.
Winnie
> -- > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 23:05 GMT > Purrs going out to you and Oscar. I know how difficult it is to give > medicine to a cat. I have enough with medicating Rusty. You may want > to give some yogurt to Oscar if she will eat it. Rusty sometimes get > the run when on antibiotics. Good thing he loves yogurt. I've tried giving Oscar yogurt before; she hasn't had an interest. We'll see.
> You may also want to keep a close eye on Oscar when you are home. Make > sure there are no narrow passages for her to get the E collar caught [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it was from his being upset with the collar. He was with my mom for > 9-10 years. I'm trying to keep an eye on Oscar, although with a three story house and an extremely open floorplan, it's pretty hard to do. She can disappear if she wants to.
Oscar only goes outside supervised, very occasionally. Right now, with an injured paw and a big plastic thing on her head, I'm not going to risk her getting caught on something under the deck. For all I know, she might have stepped on something under the deck that precipitated this whole mess.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Jul 2006 21:18 GMT > I am > somehow supposed to get the pink stuff in her mouth twice a day for a > week. When the vet gave her the first dose, it flew out of her mouth > at a much greater velocity than it went in. When I've had to give liquid medicine to my cats, one thing I've found that works really well is to grasp the cat by the nape of the neck. This makes them become a lot more passive. Then roll the cat so that one side of her face is on the floor, and the other side faces up toward you. You're still grasping her by the nape of the neck.
Then you place the tip of the squirter against her *back* teeth, and kind of worm your way into getting her to open her mouth a bit, to allow the tip of the squirter into her mouth (right at the back). Then *shoot*. They're pretty much forced to swallow it in that position.
This works really well on Roxy, a little less well on Smudge. I dread the day I have to try it on Licky...
Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 21:28 GMT > When I've had to give liquid medicine to my cats, one thing I've > found that works really well is to grasp the cat by the nape of the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > This works really well on Roxy, a little less well on Smudge. I > dread the day I have to try it on Licky... Thanks for the pointers. I'm not sure how that procedure will work with the E collar in the way. I fully anticipate looking like a pincushion by the end of this week. Maybe I'll figure it out. My coworker suggested basically straddling the cat so that all four are on the floor.
My very first experience with Oscar when I first got her was having to give her oral meds. She was a tiny bit of a thing, but still it was a close fight.
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Karen - 03 Jul 2006 22:05 GMT Can't she just have to wear the collar if you aren't around?
> > When I've had to give liquid medicine to my cats, one thing I've > > found that works really well is to grasp the cat by the nape of the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > give her oral meds. She was a tiny bit of a thing, but still it was a > close fight. Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 22:14 GMT > Can't she just have to wear the collar if you aren't around? Well ...
One, she completely ignores me when I tell her to stop licking her paws, and she spends a lot of time hidden away in corners of the house where I couldn't watch her, even when I'm home.
Two, it took both me and the vet and a fair amount of drawn blood (mine) just to get the damn thing on her in the first place. I don't think I could get it on her myself.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Jul 2006 23:01 GMT > Two, it took both me and the vet and a fair amount of drawn blood > (mine) just to get the damn thing on her in the first place. I don't > think I could get it on her myself. Oh, whoops, I didn't see this post. You might be able to give her the meds with the collar on. I've always taken it off when giving meds, but I guess it isn't essential. But the only cat in this house who's had to wear a collar is Smudge, and she's mostly pretty easy to handle. (Though she doesn't let me clip her claws!) Keeping it on might be a better way for you to go - it would give her one less weapon to use against you, too (ie, biting).
Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 23:48 GMT > Keeping it on might be a better way for you to go - it would give her > one less weapon to use against you, too (ie, biting). > > Joyce That's what I'm thinking =)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Jul 2006 22:58 GMT > Thanks for the pointers. I'm not sure how that procedure will work > with the E collar in the way. Oh, you have to take the e collar off to do it. Then you can put it back on when you're done.
> My very first experience with Oscar when I first got her was having to > give her oral meds. She was a tiny bit of a thing, but still it was a > close fight. Good luck!
Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 23:32 GMT > > Thanks for the pointers. I'm not sure how that procedure will > > work with the E collar in the way. > > Oh, you have to take the e collar off to do it. Then you can put it > back on when you're done. The vet actually gave her the meds with collar in place. It kept the pink stuff contained when she spewed most of it right back out! For that reason, I think that the e collar will actually be somewhat convenient, or at least minimize the cleanup.
I'm just not sure how I'm going to get access to Oscar to do this twice a day. I'm sure she will start avoiding me, and she has all sorts of hidey holes. Maybe I should isolate her to ... um, I actually can't think of a room other than the bathroom that doesn't have hiding places that are tough/impossible to drag a cat from, and I don't want to leave her in the bathroom.
> Good luck! Thank you!
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mlbriggs - 03 Jul 2006 21:29 GMT >> I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but >> just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. A bit of history: When I first got TuTu she was ill and needed the "pink stuff". I used an eye dropper. She started to resist but, surprise, it tasted good. So I followed it with several dropperfuls of cold water, which she liked. Since then, every night for the last nine years or so, she gets the cold water from an eyedropper. She loves the routine and usually is waiting on the bathroom counter at bedtime. Ted said "great idea will make her easier to medicate if she ever needs it again."
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Jul 2006 07:21 GMT > A bit of history: When I first got TuTu she was ill and needed the > "pink stuff". I used an eye dropper. She started to resist but, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bathroom counter at bedtime. Ted said "great idea will make her > easier to medicate if she ever needs it again." About the last thing I might have gotten out of Oscar's reaction would be "hmm, tastes good!"
Then again, she spends minutes to hours studying even food she *knows* she likes before eating it. She may object as much to getting food she didn't have a chance to inspect as she does to the substance itself.
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Adrian A - 03 Jul 2006 22:12 GMT >> I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but >> just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. Purrs that the collar does the trick and that Oscar doesn't need to wear it for very long.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 03 Jul 2006 22:24 GMT > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. Can she reach her food and water dishes, wearing it? Only time the vet put one of mine in that contraption, he couldn't get to his dishes (so I just decided the Hell with it, and removed it).
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 23:00 GMT > Can she reach her food and water dishes, wearing it? Only time the > vet put one of mine in that contraption, he couldn't get to his > dishes (so I just decided the Hell with it, and removed it). I specifically asked about that, and she said Oscar would be fine as long as the dishes were sufficiently distant from the wall. I did leave some ham on her dish today; if she hasn't eaten any, I'll know something is wrong (possibly that she's so p*ssed at me that she hasn't left the basement, where I found her hiding out before I finally left for work today).
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Kreisleriana - 03 Jul 2006 23:04 GMT >> I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but >> just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so >far. Purrs she calms down.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jul 2006 23:14 GMT >>Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck >>so far. > > Purrs she calms down. Before I left the house, I found her hiding way back in the basement. At first I was concerned that she had caught her paw in the collar or something, but no, she was just confused (the collar hits her whiskers, which I'm sure drives her nuts in much the same way constant noise or flickering lights might drive me nuts) and unhappy. She's mostly just sitting still, which I suppose is for the best right now.
It breaks my heart, though.
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Sam - 04 Jul 2006 04:53 GMT >> I noticed Oscar licking one of her hind paws a few days ago, but >> just thought it was kind of cute. Until DH pointed out last night [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. No advice, but purrs for you both.
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polonca12000 - 04 Jul 2006 21:52 GMT > We saw TED. Oscar wasn't happy about this; I have the puncture wounds > to prove it. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Since we got home, she's been trying to outrun the collar. No luck so > far. Lots of purrs and best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
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