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Marina - 29 Jun 2006 17:18 GMT
I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
with no problems...). The first thing I packed was the cardboard urn
with Frank's ashes. He will join Nikki under the wild rosebush on the
island.

Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I
don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

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pistor - 29 Jun 2006 17:34 GMT
> Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

*hugs*

Victor
mlbriggs - 29 Jun 2006 17:52 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

I feel your pain.  I kept Princess's ashes in an urn in my bedroom for
five years.  Then one day I realized I had to "let her move on".  We
buried her ashes then planted a small spruce tree over them.  Ever time I
see the tree, I think of her.   She lives in memory.   Good wishes.   MLB
Adrian A - 29 Jun 2006 18:19 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

{{{{{{{{{{{{Marina}}}}}}}}}}}}
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Karen - 29 Jun 2006 18:30 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

You will never be parted from him completely. You might consider
keeping a bit for yourself. But I think he will be very happy to be
back with Nikki.
Karen - 29 Jun 2006 18:31 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

I hit send too soon! ((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))  
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2006 18:48 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
> with no problems...). The first thing I packed was the cardboard urn
> with Frank's ashes. He will join Nikki under the wild rosebush on the
> island.

> Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

I don't know if this is a weird thing to suggest, but might you keep
some with you at home, and take the rest with you to the island? That
way he can both join Nikki *and* still be close to you when you're home.

Hugs & purrs,
Joyce
Marina - 29 Jun 2006 19:04 GMT
> I don't know if this is a weird thing to suggest, but might you keep
> some with you at home, and take the rest with you to the island? That
> way he can both join Nikki *and* still be close to you when you're home.

I thought about that, too, but I don't think I'll do that. I just
realised (again) that I have all those pictures of him (and Nikki).
Here's a funny one I found while looking for the pics of Mir in my lap:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/353761746/1358621064058511339rDEyzC

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Karen - 29 Jun 2006 19:50 GMT
> > I don't know if this is a weird thing to suggest, but might you keep
> > some with you at home, and take the rest with you to the island? That
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Here's a funny one I found while looking for the pics of Mir in my lap:
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/353761746/1358621064058511339rDEyzC

LOL! I remember that one! That really is a funny picture. Frank is so urbane
and Mir is a little kitten goof!
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2006 21:47 GMT
> I thought about that, too, but I don't think I'll do that. I just
> realised (again) that I have all those pictures of him (and Nikki).
> Here's a funny one I found while looking for the pics of Mir in my lap:
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/353761746/1358621064058511339rDEyzC

He was such a handsome gentlecat. Kind of looks like he's saying, "What
did I do to deserve this weirdo lying behind me?" :)

Joyce
Susan M - 01 Jul 2006 03:10 GMT
> I thought about that, too, but I don't think I'll do that. I just realised
> (again) that I have all those pictures of him (and Nikki). Here's a funny
> one I found while looking for the pics of Mir in my lap:
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/353761746/1358621064058511339rDEyzC

Awwww - what a sweetie.  I hope you have a good trip Marina - we'll be
thinking about it.  I imagine it will be bittersweet at the island and I'm
so glad you've got Caliban and Mir to keep you company.

Susan M
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Randy - 29 Jun 2006 19:27 GMT
>I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
>already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
>hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

It's so hard to say goodbye.

{{{{{Huggs}}}}}

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Debbie Wilson - 29 Jun 2006 20:54 GMT
> Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

Sad along with you ;-(
You could take him with you, and make the decision once you are there.
You can always bring him back with you if you find you aren't ready?

(((((((((Marina)))))))))

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Irulan - 29 Jun 2006 22:00 GMT
ah, much sympathy. We know it's hard.

Lily & her mama

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>I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag already
>(since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out with no
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other hand, I
> want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.
Judith Latham - 29 Jun 2006 22:06 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
> with no problems...). The first thing I packed was the cardboard urn
> with Frank's ashes. He will join Nikki under the wild rosebush on the
> island.

> Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

I understand how you feel.

I didn't have Sweep or Sophie's ashes but I still cannot part with their
toys and beds. Sweep's are in the attic and Sophie's are still in the
second bedroom.

On the other hand my sister had her husbands ashes and scattered them in
her garden. She tells him off when it rains on her washing.  Strange
person, my sister.

Judith

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Karen - 29 Jun 2006 22:33 GMT
> > I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> > already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Judith

I have a broken toy of Grants and I canNOT get rid of it. I put it in the
closet, but I just can't get rid of it.
Christina Websell - 29 Jun 2006 23:30 GMT
>I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag already
>(since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out with no
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other hand, I
> want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

Maybe the time is not quite right for you yet, too soon perhaps.  I still
have several carved wooden boxes with ashes of my dogs in that I can't let
go quite yet and it has been longer than Frank.
I feel far happier about my last ones as I found someone kind enough to bury
them deep in a nice place in my garden for me.
At the time the dogs I have ashes for passed away, this was not an option.
I echo what someone else said.   Take him with you to the island and if it
seems too soon take him back next year.   He is already with Nikki anyway so
I'm sure he won't mind.

[[hugs]]

Tweed
Enfilade - 29 Jun 2006 23:42 GMT
 Take him with you to the island and if it
> seems too soon take him back next year.   He is already with Nikki anyway so
> I'm sure he won't mind.

Yes, Frank's spirit is already with Nikki...he wont' mind waiting for
his body to catch up, if that is what you need.

*hugs and purrs*

--Fil
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Jun 2006 02:46 GMT
> "Marina" <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >
> > Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I don't
> > know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other hand, I
> > want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

> Maybe the time is not quite right for you yet, too soon perhaps.  I still
> have several carved wooden boxes with ashes of my dogs in that I can't let
> go quite yet and it has been longer than Frank.

May I ask, why should you ever have to let go at all? That question is for
both of you, actually. Maybe you'd just like to keep their ashes with you
for the rest of your life. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Joyce
Enfilade - 30 Jun 2006 03:08 GMT
> May I ask, why should you ever have to let go at all? That question is for
> both of you, actually. Maybe you'd just like to keep their ashes with you
> for the rest of your life. I don't see what's wrong with that.
>
> Joyce

Joyce:  It seems to me that if Nikki's ashes are on the island, Marina
may never feel closure until Frank and Nikki are together.  Because
that's how they spent their lives.

I myself am likely to keep my cats' remains for the rest of my life,
but I can say, if Kumani's ashes were buried or scattered somewhere, it
would not be right in my mind for Tyche's ashes to be kept somewhere
else, not even with me.  The sisterz are inseperable in life, and
should remain so in death, physically as well as spiritually.

Marina's opinion may differ.

--Fil
Marina - 30 Jun 2006 03:59 GMT
> Joyce:  It seems to me that if Nikki's ashes are on the island, Marina
> may never feel closure until Frank and Nikki are together.  Because
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Marina's opinion may differ.

No, that's about it. I decided a long time ago, when Frank and Nikki
were still with me, that I would scatter their ashes on the island,
because I rent my home and have no plans to buy one, so I wouldn't want
to scatter them here in town. I've already moved once since Nikki
passed. Also, the cats were always so very happy on the island. It just
seems like the most fitting place.

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Lisa Katt - 30 Jun 2006 11:59 GMT
>> Joyce:  It seems to me that if Nikki's ashes are on the island, Marina
>> may never feel closure until Frank and Nikki are together.  Because
>> that's how they spent their lives.
<snip>

>No, that's about it. I decided a long time ago, when Frank and Nikki
>were still with me, that I would scatter their ashes on the island,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
>and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Marina, I think the only right resting place for Frank is on your island.

When my Hugo Katt died, only a few weeks before Frank, Hugo was not
cremated. I had known for many years that when the time came Hugo would be
buried near his church yard. He was born there, he worked all his life as
church yard cat (hunting rabbits and voles to keep the church yard free from
them) and he loved the place so much.
He is buried on a little hill overlooking the churchyard, the church and the
river behind it. Two of his co-workers, yes real proffesional grave-diggers
who had been very fond of him, dug a grave for him among the trees and I
wrapped his body in an old red checkered shirt that had belonged to my
father, who had died some time before. We laid him in his grave and they
covered it. And I cried all the time. This was on the 1st of December last
year.

Well, what I wanted to say is, there could be no place more "right" and no
way more "right" to do it for us.

And I think your instinct tells you that Frank's "right" place is with Nikki
on the island.

Hugs from Elisabet
Adrian A - 30 Jun 2006 13:14 GMT
>>> Joyce:  It seems to me that if Nikki's ashes are on the island,
>>> Marina may never feel closure until Frank and Nikki are together.
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Hugs from Elisabet

My mother's cousin told me about her first huband. He and his beloved cat
died within a few days of each other. Even though it technically wasn't
allowed she arranged for the cat to be placed in her husband's coffin, they
were burried together.
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Marina - 30 Jun 2006 13:27 GMT
> Marina, I think the only right resting place for Frank is on your island.
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> And I think your instinct tells you that Frank's "right" place is with Nikki
> on the island.

What a very appropriate burial for Hugo the Black Graveyard Cat. How are
you doing, Lisa? I know Hugo was as special to you as Frank was to me.
And you're right, Frank should be with Nikki on the island.

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Shiral - 30 Jun 2006 23:19 GMT
> No, that's about it. I decided a long time ago, when Frank and Nikki
> were still with me, that I would scatter their ashes on the island,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
> and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

I can understand that. And yet it is a final parting from Frank.  I
almost wish I had such a place for Izzy and Pan's ashes, but they were
each cremated communally and their ashes were scattered in a garden at
a pet cemetary.  I miss them both. Still you can keep their spirits
close to you on the Island, and since they both loved it there, you'll
always have your happy associations with them being there.

I hope the young ones will enjoy the Island this summer! We're
expecting lots of pictures.  =o)

Melissa
Christina Websell - 01 Jul 2006 23:10 GMT
> > "Marina" <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> both of you, actually. Maybe you'd just like to keep their ashes with you
> for the rest of your life. I don't see what's wrong with that.

I am toying with the idea of getting the caskets buried alongside their
mother and sibs in my garden.  At the time these 3 died I didn't have anyone
close enough to ask to bury them for me so I had them cremated.

Later, I did, so I have 5 doggie graves here with snowdrops, crocuses and
tiny rose bushes planted on them.
When my mother died suddenly we three kids had an awful dilemma about what
to do with the ashes of her beloved border collie who had passed away about
18 months before.  What would mum have wanted?  Should we scatter them down
amongst the fields and gravel pits where they used to walk every afternoon
to look at wildlife?  Or at least my mum did!   Cassie used to do huge
"outruns" like she was herding sheep if she saw anything herdable.  Is that
a word?  Well, you know what I mean.  It certainly kept her exercised.  We
thought about this as an option but in the end - because the undertaker had
been a friend of my uncle's (her brother) having gone to school together and
then members of the same skiffle band - he just slipped the little wooden
box into my mother's coffin and they were buried together.   I don't know if
it's legal or not here.  Probably not.
My point being that I don't want to leave boxes of ashes that my brothers
don't know what to do with if I die suddenly like my mom did.   I really did
have to take a fresh look at my mortality over the last year and make plans.

Tweed
Joy - 29 Jun 2006 23:59 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

(((((((((((((Marina))))))))))))))

Joy
CatNipped - 30 Jun 2006 00:57 GMT
{{{{{{{{{{Marina}}}}}}}}}}  He'll be happy with Nikki, and you'll get to
commune with their spirits every summer when you're on the island.

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>I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag already
>(since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out with no
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other hand, I
> want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.
badwilson - 30 Jun 2006 01:01 GMT
Awww, I'm sorry Marina.  It must be very hard.  Purrs for you to come to
a decision you are happy with.  Hugs,
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> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.
Singh - 30 Jun 2006 04:35 GMT
This may sound a little out there, but something to consider...a friend
decided to have a silver pendant made, that encased a tiny pinch of his
mother's ashes.

It's okay not to be ready to part with Frank just yet. Honor your feelings
and when the time is ready so will you be. (Louie and I once realized we
had a sharps container with Fritzie's old needles, and even these we put
off taking to the vet for proper disposal for two or three weeks.) Your
heart will let you know.

A rosebush is indeed a lovely spot to rest. Fritzie loved roses and our
bush in the backyard. It took two years for me to go and trim those bushes
after he passed.

Blessed be,
Baha

> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
> and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
Marina - 30 Jun 2006 04:57 GMT
> This may sound a little out there, but something to consider...a friend
> decided to have a silver pendant made, that encased a tiny pinch of his
> mother's ashes.

Thank you, Baha! The instant I read this I knew this was the right thing
for me! I'll have to go hunting for a small pendant today.

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Kreisleriana - 30 Jun 2006 05:38 GMT
>This may sound a little out there, but something to consider...a friend
>decided to have a silver pendant made, that encased a tiny pinch of his
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Blessed be,
>Baha

My cats are indoor city cats-- I have no real logical place to scatter
their remains.  My little Mimi's ashes are in a little tin on a shelf,
and people can think whatever they want.  BTW, I might have mentioned
this before, but a few months after she passed, my ex was in town--
this was  Mimi's Daddy, whom she adored, and who adored her-- and when
I had lunch with him, I brought Mimi's ashes with me so he could say
goodbye.   He took the box and kissed it.  He and I were always on the
same wavelength about animals, and he was glad for the chance to say
goodbye.

Theresa
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Jun 2006 10:44 GMT
> My little Mimi's ashes are in a little tin on a shelf,
> and people can think whatever they want.  BTW, I might have mentioned
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> same wavelength about animals, and he was glad for the chance to say
> goodbye.

Awww, I think that's really sweet. It's nice when you can share that
with someone.

Joyce
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 30 Jun 2006 17:38 GMT
>I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
>already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
>hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

(((((((Marina))))))))

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polonca12000 - 30 Jun 2006 22:24 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my bag
> already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a half-packed bag out
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

You'll know when the time is right, Marina.
Lots and lots of gentle hugs and purrs,
Polonca and Soncek
Cheryl - 01 Jul 2006 01:58 GMT
> I will leave for the island on Monday, but I started packing my
> bag already (since the cats are not here, I can leave a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> On the other hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the
> island.

Have a great holiday Marina! While sad, it's also what you've been
waiting for to bring closure. I wish you a peaceful releasing
ceremony with Frank. Purrs.

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Sam - 02 Jul 2006 20:05 GMT
> Since I packed it, I've almost taken it out of the bag many times. I
> don't know if I'm ready to part with him so completely. On the other
> hand, I want him to be with Nikki, and on the island.

{{{{{{{{{{{{ Marina }}}}}}}}}}}}

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