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Matthew - 28 Jun 2006 23:19 GMT Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in another annoying way
Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov
Joy - 29 Jun 2006 00:02 GMT > Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in > another annoying way > > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov My cell phone is kept turned off except when I'm making a call, which is rare. I use it strictly for emergencies.
Joy
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2006 00:14 GMT > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov
> My cell phone is kept turned off except when I'm making a call, which is > rare. I use it strictly for emergencies. If you don't answer the phone, you don't get charged for it, do you? So, when a call comes in, look at the caller ID on the screen, and if you don't recognize the ID, don't answer it! Especially if it's from some weird area code or 800-ish number.
I'm actually happy that cell phone numbers will be available via 411. It can be so frustrating to try to get hold of someone when you don't know their cell phone number, or which company their plan is on, so you don't know who to call for the information.
Joyce
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 00:19 GMT Don't forget it will be also text messaging which most companies it will charge you for it
> > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joyce Jo Firey - 29 Jun 2006 01:52 GMT > Don't forget it will be also text messaging which most companies it will > charge you for it Particularly annoying as the calls will all come in when you do turn the phone on to use it.
Jo
Magic Mood Jeep© - 29 Jun 2006 01:09 GMT > Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit > you in another annoying way > > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov You CAN sign your cell phone number(s) up for the "do not call" list - no matter who the provider, if it's on the list, they have to abide by it. I put all the cell phone #'s we have, plus my mother's, and mother-in-law's numbers on the Indiana no-call list when it was available, then added to the *national* no-call list when it was available.
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 02:09 GMT > Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in > another annoying way > > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov I don't think that's true. The FCC still prohibits telemarketers from calling your cell phone. Telemarketers can't call your cell phone without your permission.
Sherry
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 02:56 GMT >> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 >> information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sherry Not no more they soon will be able to hence the message post
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 04:37 GMT > >> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > >> information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > Not no more they soon will be able to hence the message post http://www.keloland.com/News/NewsDetail5440.cfm?Id=0,48876
"CAN TELEMARKETERS CALL YOUR CELL PHONE?
An e-mail circulating around KELOLAND warns that your cell phone number will soon be in the hands of telemarketers, and you'll receive solicitations on your wireless phone.
The e-mail says "In 19 days from today, all cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies, and you'll start to receive sale calls." It also warns, "You will be charged for the calls."
We did some digging, and found out it's not true. A representative from the National Do Not Call Registry tells KELOLAND News the e-mail is a hoax.
The Do Not Call Registry's website says the FCC prohibits telemarketers from calling your cell phones without your permission.
If you do get a solicitation call on your cell phone, it's illegal and you can file a complaint with the National Do Not Call Registry.
The telecommunications industry is talking about creating a 411 wireless directory that would allow companies to call your cell phone, but only if you sign up for it.
--Katie Janssen KELOLAND TV
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 04:52 GMT sridd...@aol.com wrote:
> > >> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > > >> information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > --Katie Janssen > KELOLAND TV A few more articles I ran across. This must have originated as an e-mail hoax.
YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER WON'T BE GIVEN TO TELEMARKETERS http://www.hutchnews.com/news/local/stories/phone061606.shtml
MID-DAY BUSINESS REPORT; CELLPHONE HOAX WON'T DIE http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14887188.htm
RUMORS WARN OF 411 WIRELESS DIRECTORY http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5037760&nav=0qq6
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 04:55 GMT > sridd...@aol.com wrote: >> > > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > RUMORS WARN OF 411 WIRELESS DIRECTORY > http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5037760&nav=0qq6 The bad thing was I was watching this on the news that is why I posted it. They were talking about how much charges would be if the telemarketers were allowed to text message like they are doing over in Japan where hundreds of dollars are being racked up on peoples phones from the text messages
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 04:59 GMT > > sridd...@aol.com wrote: > >> > > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > allowed to text message like they are doing over in Japan where hundreds of > dollars are being racked up on peoples phones from the text messages Oh man. That would make me mad. We have one particular station that is notortious for alarmist/sensationalistic "news". I never watch it anymore. Text messaging sounds like a marvelous telemarketer's tool. If they ever *did* start mass-calling that way it would be horrible.
Sherry
Sherry
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 05:04 GMT >> > sridd...@aol.com wrote: >> >> > > [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Sherry There was one guy over in Japan that reported $1200.00 cell bill from text messaging the telemarketers were sending so many ads that he was unable to even dial his phone for the text messages would not stop long enough to dial. Luckily for him his cell service cancelled the number and gave him a new number
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MaryL - 29 Jun 2006 05:27 GMT >> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 >> information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sherry You're right, as far as I can tell. I just checked with Snopes (my favorite source for urban legend info), and Snopes indicates that the reports are "false." Here's the citation: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
MaryL
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jun 2006 04:07 GMT > Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in > another annoying way > > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov I hope it's more effective with "normal" telemarketers than it was with political calls during California's Primary elections a couple weeks ago! I was tempted to start telling some of them "I WAS going to vote for your candidate, but after receiving so many nuisance calls asking me to, I've decided to vot for the other guy!" (Except most of the calls were recorded messages by various celebrities.)
Don't you have to PAY for incoming calls to your cell-phone? Bad enough you furnish the fax paper and toner when people use your fax machine to send advertising, but I'd REALLY rage at the caller if they used MY cell-phone minutes to try to sell me something!
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2006 04:48 GMT > I hope it's more effective with "normal" telemarketers than > it was with political calls during California's Primary > elections a couple weeks ago! LOL - so who is "Sherry Drake" anyway?? :)
(To those who are neither California residents nor registered US Democrats, an explanation: I got all these calls, too, many of them from a mysterious woman named Sherry Drake, who called every single day. Or, rather, an automated call with a recording from her was placed to my phone every day.)
I also got tons and tons of junk mail about it. You'd think this was the presidential election of the century, instead of just a mid-term election. I'll bet the trees that were still standing the day after the election had a big party!
Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jun 2006 16:09 GMT > > I hope it's more effective with "normal" telemarketers than > > it was with political calls during California's Primary [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > mid-term election. I'll bet the trees that were still standing the > day after the election had a big party! And voter turnout was STILL way, way down! Some of the issues WERE important (like the education legislation) - what a pity so few people care enough to let their voices be heard! (Thats how dictatorships get started - when people stop thinking they can make a difference, the politicians with the least interest in the "common good" take over.)
rrb - 29 Jun 2006 04:30 GMT > Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411 > information available soon. telemarketers will be able to solicit you in > another annoying way > > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov Here is what I have been able to find out so far (which at least sounds better):
It will not go into effect until early next year if it ever does go into effect.
There will be no phone book published of these numbers.
A consortium of five of the six major wireless carriers -- Cingular Wireless, Nextel, Sprint, AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile -- is moving forward with plans to create a national "411" service of all of their mobile-phone subscribers. Only Verizon Wireless thus far is refusing to participate. Go Verizon!
Last week, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, took up the matter. He sent a letter to the chief executive officers of the five companies, demanding answers.
"If you offer wireless directory services, will your subscribers be given a choice of whether to have their numbers listed in a directory or not?" McCain inquired in the Sept. 15 letter, a copy of which was provided to UPI by the senator's staff. "Do you plan to charge subscribers to keep their wireless numbers unlisted?" he also asked.
Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, McCain's counterpart in the House of Representatives, co-signed the letter.
The companies that responded to the queries stated they will only list the mobile-phone numbers of customers who "opt-in" to the database, and will not charge a fee to those who do not want to be listed, according to letters reviewed by UPI."Protecting our customer privacy is one of our highest priorities, and this commitment is reflected in our approach to wireless 411," said John D. Zeglis, chairman and CEO of AT&T Wireless in a letter dated Sept. 23.
The Cellular Telecommunications and Internet Association, the industry's trade group, is backing the national wireless-411 concept enthusiastically. The group said any eventual directory assistance database will be built to provide more protection to consumers than even the Federal Trade Commission's do-not call list.
"A consumer will have the only say in whether their number will be made available in the database," CTIA spokesman John Walls told UPI.
Cell phones are banned from being called by telemarketers by the FCC. See here for more details: http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/truthaboutcellphones.html
Here are excerpts from the fcc document:
Here Are the Facts:
Establishing a wireless 411 directory is only in the idea stage, at present.
Even if a wireless 411 directory is established, most telemarketing calls to cell phones would still be illegal. For example, it is unlawful for any person to make any call (other than a call made for emergency purposes or made with express prior consent) using any automatic telephone dialing system or any artificial or prerecorded voice to any telephone number assigned to a paging service, mobile telephone service, or any service for which the called party is charged for the call. This prohibition applies regardless of whether the number is listed on the Federal Government's National Do-Not-Call Registry.
Contrary to what some of the e-mail campaigns are now saying, the Federal Government does not maintain and is not establishing a separate Do-Not-Call Registry for mobile phones. The FCC and the Federal Trade Commission set up the National Do-Not-Call Registry to enable consumers to reduce the number of unwanted telemarketing calls to their phones. The Registry covers both traditional (wired) and wireless (mobile) phones. The Registry is nationwide in scope and applies to all telemarketers, with the exception of certain non-profit organizations. Personal cell phone users have always been able to add their numbers to the National Do-Not-Call Registry either online at www.donotcall.gov or by calling toll-free at 1-888-382-1222 from the telephone number they wish to register. Registrations become effective within 31 days of signing up and are active for five years. There is no cut-off date or deadline for registrations.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jun 2006 15:59 GMT > Here is what I have been able to find out so far (which at least > sounds better): [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > mobile-phone subscribers. Only Verizon Wireless thus far is refusing to > participate. Go Verizon! I've been thinking about getting a cell-phone, but there are so many variables, companies, etc. that it's confusing. It looks as if Verizon may be the one getting my business (even though Cingular advertises the fewest dropped calls).
Shel-hed - 29 Jun 2006 04:43 GMT http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
A bunch of crap.
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 04:52 GMT I rather be wrong than be sorry
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:19:32 GMT, "Matthew" > <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> > wrote: > A bunch of crap. And I don't know whether to tell you to kiss off or just add you to the delete list maybe both we shall see
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 04:56 GMT I rather be wrong than be sorry
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:19:32 GMT, "Matthew" > <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> > wrote: > A bunch of crap. And I don't know whether to tell you to kiss off or just add you to the delete list maybe both we shall see
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