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Matthew - 28 Jun 2006 23:19 GMT
Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
another annoying way

Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov 
Joy - 29 Jun 2006 00:02 GMT
> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
> another annoying way
>
> Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov

My cell phone is kept turned off except when I'm making a call, which is
rare.  I use it strictly for emergencies.

Joy
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2006 00:14 GMT
> "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> > Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov

> My cell phone is kept turned off except when I'm making a call, which is
> rare.  I use it strictly for emergencies.

If you don't answer the phone, you don't get charged for it, do you?
So, when a call comes in, look at the caller ID on the screen, and if
you don't recognize the ID, don't answer it! Especially if it's from
some weird area code or 800-ish number.

I'm actually happy that cell phone numbers will be available via 411.
It can be so frustrating to try to get hold of someone when you don't
know their cell phone number, or which company their plan is on, so
you don't know who to call for the information.

Joyce
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 00:19 GMT
Don't forget it will be also text messaging  which most companies it will
charge you for it

> > "Matthew" <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Joyce
Jo Firey - 29 Jun 2006 01:52 GMT
> Don't forget it will be also text messaging  which most companies it will
> charge you for it

Particularly annoying as the calls will all come in when you do turn the
phone on to use it.

Jo
Magic Mood Jeep© - 29 Jun 2006 01:09 GMT
> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit
> you in another annoying way
>
> Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov

You CAN sign your cell phone number(s) up for the "do not call" list - no
matter who the provider, if it's on the list, they have to abide by it.  I
put all the cell phone #'s we have, plus my mother's, and mother-in-law's
numbers on the Indiana no-call list when it was available, then added to the
*national* no-call list when it was available.
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 02:09 GMT
> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
> another annoying way
>
> Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov

I don't think that's true.  The FCC still prohibits telemarketers from
calling your cell phone.  Telemarketers can't call your cell phone
without your permission.

Sherry
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 02:56 GMT
>> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
>> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Sherry

Not no more they soon will be able to  hence the message post
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 04:37 GMT
> >> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> >> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >
> Not no more they soon will be able to  hence the message post

http://www.keloland.com/News/NewsDetail5440.cfm?Id=0,48876

"CAN TELEMARKETERS CALL YOUR CELL PHONE?

An e-mail circulating around KELOLAND warns that your cell phone number
will soon be in the hands of telemarketers, and you'll receive
solicitations on your wireless phone.

The e-mail says "In 19 days from today, all cell phone numbers are
being released to telemarketing companies, and you'll start to receive
sale calls." It also warns, "You will be charged for the calls."

We did some digging, and found out it's not true. A representative from
the National Do Not Call Registry tells KELOLAND News the e-mail is a
hoax.

The Do Not Call Registry's website says the FCC prohibits telemarketers
from calling your cell phones without your permission.

If you do get a solicitation call on your cell phone, it's illegal and
you can file a complaint with the National Do Not Call Registry.

The telecommunications industry is talking about creating a 411
wireless directory that would allow companies to call your cell phone,
but only if you sign up for it.

--Katie Janssen
KELOLAND TV
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 04:52 GMT
sridd...@aol.com wrote:

> > >> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> > >> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> --Katie Janssen
> KELOLAND TV

A few more articles I ran across. This must have originated as an
e-mail hoax.

YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER WON'T BE GIVEN TO TELEMARKETERS
http://www.hutchnews.com/news/local/stories/phone061606.shtml

MID-DAY BUSINESS REPORT; CELLPHONE HOAX WON'T DIE
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14887188.htm

RUMORS WARN OF 411 WIRELESS DIRECTORY
http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5037760&nav=0qq6
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 04:55 GMT
> sridd...@aol.com wrote:
>> > >
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> RUMORS WARN OF 411 WIRELESS DIRECTORY
> http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5037760&nav=0qq6

The bad thing was I was watching this on the news that is why I posted it.
They were talking about how much charges would be if the telemarketers were
allowed to text message  like they are doing over in Japan where hundreds of
dollars are being racked up on peoples phones from the text messages
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jun 2006 04:59 GMT
> > sridd...@aol.com wrote:
> >> > >
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> allowed to text message  like they are doing over in Japan where hundreds of
> dollars are being racked up on peoples phones from the text messages

Oh man. That would make me mad. We have one particular station that is
notortious for alarmist/sensationalistic "news". I never watch it
anymore.
Text messaging sounds like a marvelous telemarketer's tool. If they
ever *did* start mass-calling that way it would be horrible.

Sherry

Sherry
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 05:04 GMT
>> > sridd...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> > >
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
>
> Sherry

There was one guy over in Japan that reported  $1200.00 cell bill from text
messaging  the  telemarketers were sending so many ads that  he was unable
to even dial his phone for the text messages would not stop long enough to
dial.  Luckily for him his cell service cancelled the number and gave him a
new number

.
MaryL - 29 Jun 2006 05:27 GMT
>> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
>> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Sherry

You're right, as far as I can tell.  I just checked with Snopes (my favorite
source for urban legend info), and Snopes indicates that the reports are
"false."  Here's the citation:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

MaryL
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jun 2006 04:07 GMT
> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
> another annoying way
>
> Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov 

I hope it's more effective with "normal" telemarketers than
it was with political calls during California's Primary
elections a couple weeks ago!  I was tempted to start
telling some of them "I WAS going to vote for your
candidate, but after receiving so many nuisance calls asking
me to, I've decided to vot for the other guy!"  (Except most
of the calls were recorded messages by various celebrities.)

Don't you have to PAY for incoming calls to your cell-phone?
 Bad enough you furnish the fax paper and toner when people
use your fax machine to send advertising, but I'd REALLY
rage at the caller if they used MY cell-phone minutes to try
to sell me something!
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Jun 2006 04:48 GMT
> I hope it's more effective with "normal" telemarketers than
> it was with political calls during California's Primary
> elections a couple weeks ago!

LOL - so who is "Sherry Drake" anyway?? :)

(To those who are neither California residents nor registered US
Democrats, an explanation: I got all these calls, too, many of them
from a mysterious woman named Sherry Drake, who called every single
day. Or, rather, an automated call with a recording from her was
placed to my phone every day.)

I also got tons and tons of junk mail about it. You'd think this
was the presidential election of the century, instead of just a
mid-term election. I'll bet the trees that were still standing the
day after the election had a big party!

Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jun 2006 16:09 GMT
>  > I hope it's more effective with "normal" telemarketers than
>  > it was with political calls during California's Primary
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> mid-term election. I'll bet the trees that were still standing the
> day after the election had a big party!

And voter turnout was STILL way, way down!  Some of the
issues WERE important (like the education legislation) -
what a pity so few people care enough to let their voices be
heard!  (Thats how dictatorships get started - when people
stop thinking they can make a difference, the politicians
with the least interest in the "common good" take over.)
rrb - 29 Jun 2006 04:30 GMT
> Remember they are going to release cell phone numbers as general 411
> information available soon.  telemarketers will be able to solicit you in
> another annoying way
>
> Make sure you register at www.donotcall.gov

Here is what  I have been able to find out so far (which at least
sounds better):

It will not go into effect until early next year if it ever does go
into effect.

There will be no phone book published of these numbers.

A consortium of five of the six major wireless carriers -- Cingular
Wireless, Nextel, Sprint, AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile -- is moving
forward with plans to create a national "411" service of all of their
mobile-phone subscribers. Only Verizon Wireless thus far is refusing to
participate. Go Verizon!

Last week, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., chairman of the Senate Committee
on Commerce, Science and Transportation, took up the matter. He sent a
letter to the chief executive officers of the five companies, demanding
answers.

"If you offer wireless directory services, will your subscribers be
given a choice of whether to have their numbers listed in a directory
or not?" McCain inquired in the Sept. 15 letter, a copy of which was
provided to UPI by the senator's staff. "Do you plan to charge
subscribers to keep their wireless numbers unlisted?" he also asked.

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, McCain's counterpart in the House of
Representatives, co-signed the letter.

The companies that responded to the queries stated they will only list
the mobile-phone numbers of customers who "opt-in" to the database, and
will not charge a fee to those who do not want to be listed, according
to letters reviewed by UPI."Protecting our customer privacy is one of
our highest priorities, and this commitment is reflected in our
approach to wireless 411," said John D. Zeglis, chairman and CEO of
AT&T Wireless in a letter dated Sept. 23.

The Cellular Telecommunications and Internet Association, the
industry's trade group, is backing the national wireless-411 concept
enthusiastically. The group said any eventual directory assistance
database will be built to provide more protection to consumers than
even the Federal Trade Commission's do-not call list.

"A consumer will have the only say in whether their number will be made
available in the database," CTIA spokesman John Walls told UPI.

Cell phones are banned from being called by telemarketers by the FCC.
See here for more details:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/truthaboutcellphones.html

Here are excerpts from the fcc document:

Here Are the Facts:

Establishing a wireless 411 directory is only in the idea stage, at
present.

Even if a wireless 411 directory is established, most telemarketing
calls to cell phones would still be illegal. For example, it is
unlawful for any person to make any call (other than a call made for
emergency purposes or made with express prior consent) using any
automatic telephone dialing system or any artificial or prerecorded
voice to any telephone number assigned to a paging service, mobile
telephone service, or any service for which the called party is charged
for the call. This prohibition applies regardless of whether the number
is listed on the Federal Government's National Do-Not-Call Registry.

Contrary to what some of the e-mail campaigns are now saying, the
Federal Government does not maintain and is not establishing a separate
Do-Not-Call Registry for mobile phones. The FCC and the Federal Trade
Commission set up the National Do-Not-Call Registry to enable consumers
to reduce the number of unwanted telemarketing calls to their phones.
The Registry covers both traditional (wired) and wireless (mobile)
phones. The Registry is nationwide in scope and applies to all
telemarketers, with the exception of certain non-profit organizations.
Personal cell phone users have always been able to add their numbers to
the National Do-Not-Call Registry either online at  www.donotcall.gov
or by calling toll-free at 1-888-382-1222 from the telephone number
they wish to register. Registrations become effective within 31 days of
signing up and are active for five years.  There is no cut-off date or
deadline for registrations.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Jun 2006 15:59 GMT
> Here is what  I have been able to find out so far (which at least
> sounds better):
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> mobile-phone subscribers. Only Verizon Wireless thus far is refusing to
> participate. Go Verizon!

I've been thinking about getting a cell-phone, but there are
so many variables, companies, etc. that it's confusing.  It
looks as if Verizon may be the one getting my business (even
though Cingular advertises the fewest dropped calls).
Shel-hed - 29 Jun 2006 04:43 GMT
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

A bunch of crap.
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 04:52 GMT
I rather be wrong  than be sorry

> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:19:32 GMT, "Matthew"
> <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com>
> wrote:
> A bunch of crap.

And I don't know whether to tell you to kiss off or just add you to the
delete list  maybe both we shall see
Matthew - 29 Jun 2006 04:56 GMT
I rather be wrong  than be sorry

> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:19:32 GMT, "Matthew"
> <Iamacatslave@proudtoserve.com>
> wrote:
> A bunch of crap.

And I don't know whether to tell you to kiss off or just add you to the
delete list  maybe both we shall see
 
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