I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
open. And what happens? The cats get into every last one so badly that
some days you think you have to call and make a police report, the
kitchen is in such shape.
Louie has gotten so desperate he has taken to using small plastic
grocery bags and hanging the things from a peg in the wall to keep our
little cat-burglars out of the food pouches and ham wrappers. And then
we had a visit from a friend who came up from Florida, who waxed
sarcastic: "My stars!!! Is it...ART?! Abstract Expressionism? De Stijl?
De Trasche?"
Please!!! any suggestions? has anyone ever successfully kept cats out of
De Trasche? Your advice is welcome. If you can't come up with a trashcan
suggestion, any ways to pretty up the artwork hanging from a peg will
work too! :-)
Blessed be,
Baha
Denise VanDyke - 12 Oct 2004 18:31 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
I use the ones with the sliding hatch type lid. Not sure how else to
describe it. However, I had to go one step farther. Brenna can open
the lid. But not if that side is facing the wall! (At least so far...)
I have to be more careful about dumping table scraps or anything else
that could be messy, but that's a small price to pay for keeping Herself
out of the trash.
- Denise
Sherry - 12 Oct 2004 23:42 GMT
>I use the ones with the sliding hatch type lid. Not sure how else to
>describe it. However, I had to go one step farther. Brenna can open
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>
>- Denise
I used to wonder if trash-digging was a personality trait or a learned
behavior. ;-)
I had one trash-digger and 3 non-trash-diggers. I babysat the grandcat for
several days, and sadly, I sent him home a trash-digger. He never started till
he stayed here, and he's never stopped.
It's a learned behavior.
Cathi - 12 Oct 2004 19:04 GMT
>I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
>the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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>suggestion, any ways to pretty up the artwork hanging from a peg will
>work too! :-)
Are your little cat-burglars the diabetic kitties perchance? Jasper's
just like that now - a prize scrounger, and not above eating anything.
And I mean anything ....
Being good environmentally friendly types, we keep a separate bin in the
kitchen for compostable scraps - veg peelings, teabags, that sort of
thing. When it's full, it gets emptied, and then left outside for a few
days to air.
I found one freshly-emptied bin tipped over on its side, rather than
standing on its base, and the slurpage from the bottom dribbling out
onto the hard standing, where Jasper was sniffing it with some interest!

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Nan - 12 Oct 2004 20:22 GMT
>I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
>the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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>Blessed be,
>Baha
I got a round stainless steel can with an insert and a step-on lid at
Wal-Mart. They had 2 sizes, one is just the right size for the
bathroom or bedroom and the other is larger. So far none of the cats
have been able to open it. I figure that if they learn to step on the
pedal and learn to open it I can always disconnect the pedal.
--
Nan and the furkids
A wise man talks because he has something to say;
a fool talks because he has to say something.
Christina Websell - 12 Oct 2004 21:14 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
I haven't had trouble with the cats and bins, but big trouble with the bins
(and fridge too) with my late dogs.
It depends on the design of your bin, and what material it's made of. On a
flip top plastic bin, a hole can be drilled in the edge of the top, and
corresponding side and a small wire can be twisted in to lock it. Same with
a lever plastic bin. For a metal lever bin, put something heavy on top of
the lid.
For a metal swing top bin, try pulling a bin liner (do you have them?
garbage can plastic liner??) over the top and down the sides when you are
out, Like a sack covering it from top nearly to bottom.
Try these first. I have more ;-)
Tweed
CatNipped - 12 Oct 2004 21:56 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
We have a trash "drawer" built into our cabinets - you pull out the drawer
(which is as tall as the bottom cabinets are high) and inside is a wooden
trash bin that you line with plastic tall kitchen garbage bags.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Jo Firey - 12 Oct 2004 22:08 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
Well, we keep a large plastic take out soda cup by the sink with a produce
plastic bag in it for the glopy stuff we don't put down the disposal. And
for chicken bones, etc. That gets tied closed and put into the trash can
when we are done in the kitchen. But we are also lucky in that we've never
had a cat that was too enamored of the trash. They'd rather steal things
off my desk.
Jo
O J - 13 Oct 2004 00:36 GMT
On Tue, 12 Oc, Baha wrote:
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>Please!!! any suggestions? has anyone ever successfully kept cats out of
>De Trasche? Your advice is welcome. If you can't come up with a trashcan
>suggestion, any ways to pretty up the artwork hanging from a peg will
>work too! :-)
That behavior seems so strange to me. None of the cats I've known
have knocked over trash as a habit. If you can get one, we used to
use a wire-frame plastic grocery bag holder and secured it to the
inside of one of the cabinet doors under the kitchen sink. The
grocery bags get used twice, once on the way in and again on the way
out, and there is no visible garbage can in your kitchen.
Regrds and Purrs,
O J
CATherine - 13 Oct 2004 03:30 GMT
>On Tue, 12 Oc, Baha wrote:
>
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>Regrds and Purrs,
>O J
I just have a plastic lined open bin that I keep in the cabinet under
the sink. The door to that has a cat and toddler proof clip that an
adult can press down to open the door. No gsrbage mishaps and no
smelly bin in the open. But I do ahve a regular kitchen trash can we
use for paper and other kinds of trash. Living in the country we
always separate our trash for burnables in the wood stove and for the
burning pit outdoors and another bin for metal and glass.
--
CATherine
Ted Davis - 13 Oct 2004 01:33 GMT
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>Please!!! any suggestions? has anyone ever successfully kept cats out of
>De Trasche? Your advice is welcome. If you can't come up with a trashcan
>suggestion, any ways to pretty up the artwork hanging from a peg will
>work too! :-)
Over the years I've had cats, I've had several that would turn the
kitchen can over and drag stuff out. I found two things that work
with *any* trash can:
put the container on a pedestal to raise the rim higher then the cat
can reach (I use a plastic kitchen step stool)
strap the container to the wall or cabinet end (I use bungee cords
with hooks that mate with screw hooks or eye screws).
Either alone should do, but short containers usually need the strap
and tall ones work well with the stool.
--
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
Stormin Mormon - 13 Oct 2004 03:07 GMT
Lets discuss this. Maybe we can make something out of wood -- I mean, some
kind of foot lever thing, but with some weight in the lid. We'll figure it
out.

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I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
open. And what happens? The cats get into every last one so badly that
some days you think you have to call and make a police report, the
kitchen is in such shape.
Louie has gotten so desperate he has taken to using small plastic
grocery bags and hanging the things from a peg in the wall to keep our
little cat-burglars out of the food pouches and ham wrappers. And then
we had a visit from a friend who came up from Florida, who waxed
sarcastic: "My stars!!! Is it...ART?! Abstract Expressionism? De Stijl?
De Trasche?"
Please!!! any suggestions? has anyone ever successfully kept cats out of
De Trasche? Your advice is welcome. If you can't come up with a trashcan
suggestion, any ways to pretty up the artwork hanging from a peg will
work too! :-)
Blessed be,
Baha
Mishi - 13 Oct 2004 04:26 GMT
< Please!!! any suggestions? has anyone ever successfully kept cats out of
De Trasche? Your advice is welcome. If you can't come up with a trashcan
suggestion, any ways to pretty up the artwork hanging from a peg will work
too! :-)
Blessed be,
Baha >
Hi Baha,
We put meat wrappers and other 'edible trash' in the freezer until we can
get them outside into the big trash can. My guys haven't figured out how to
open that yet! (They are working on the fridge, however....) I think that if
you get a regular garbage bin with handles, you can use those 'kiddy' door
locks that look like a big hair pin and lock it up. A friend of mine used
bungee cords across the top of his garbage can (this helped keep the racoons
out.)
Good luck!
Patti
Sam Nash - 13 Oct 2004 04:33 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
Our solution came as a result of a (large) dog my son just *had* to have
many years ago - a trash compactor! Only way we ever found to keep the d*g
out of the trash. Of course if there was something particularly yummy, he'd
sit by it and stare, trying to will it open.
D*g is long gone to the Bridge, but we still use the compactor. Guess it's
20 YO by now but it still works.
Sam
HD - 13 Oct 2004 08:46 GMT
>I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
>the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Blessed be,
>Baha
I know what you mean.
I got one at "The Container Store" it has a dome lid that fits into a
groove on the plastic rim that holds the trash bag.
So far my three have not been able to get at the trash.
I takes a 33 L bag so the "tall" American bags work real good in it.
It was NOT cheap about $65.00
MaryL - 13 Oct 2004 09:06 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Blessed be,
> Baha
I keep my trash bag under the kitchen sink. It probably isn't as tall as
the ones you have been using, but it is convenient because it is the perfect
size for using one of those plastic grocery bags as a liner. I just "hook"
the two handles over the edge of the trash can, then use them to tie the
trash inside when it's time to transfer it to the garbage can in the garage.
You could add a child-proof latch to the cabinet door if your cats open it
to get at your trash.
MaryL
Dee - 13 Oct 2004 14:58 GMT
> I've tried everything: the tall kitchen trashes with the flappy tops,
> the ones with tops you just pull off, the onesd you step on a lever to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
I wrap anything food-related in plastic before putting it in the trash. I
save plastic bags from the grocery store or ones that the newspaper comes
in, and use those. I will also use saran wrap as necessary. I wrap most
food scraps, especially any meat. Really stinky things like cat food cans
get double- or triple-wrapped.
In addition, I also use a trash can with a flip-top lid. This combo of
plastic wrap and closed lid has the benefit that the trash doesn't smell
for the week that it sits in my kitchen before pick-up day. And the cats
have never been in the slightest bit interested in digging in the trash
can.
Dee