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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / June 2006"Bruver" - Question re lonely outdoor kitten/cat - re maMA, Loki and Rexie (for reference) - sorry , longish
Long story trying to be short, I've told the story of maMA, found last summer, friendly as anything (dumped, I'm sure) pregnant, got her spayed. She then surprised the heck out of me a week after being spayed, by bringing a litter of 5 kitens out of hiding. I found homes for 4, kept Loki, the boy. Along about the time I got a home for the last kitten, two older orange kittens (male, we presume) by at least a couple of months turned up. I know they are hers because she used to let them nurse from her. I trapped one but could never get the other. I bought a Petmate house for them and it's on our porch, for maMA and the leftover orange one I call Bruver. (BTW, he won't let us anywhere near him altho he's very curious about us. Won't even eat until we go back into the house) maMA now spends more time in than out. She comes in, curls up on a box by the puter or on the top floor of the condo we have in the bedroom or in my closet or on our bed and isn't heard from the rest of the day unless she and Loki play, running thru the house. URLs for pix of all are in my sig. When Bruver (I figure just about 1 yr old) comes home from his wanderings I used to put maMA out, and she and he would sleep in the little house on the porch. But now she'd rather sleep in at nite. This suits me fine, I got her all her shots and the vet says she's in good condition. I want her to stay that way. THE PROBLEM/QUESTION: maMA has obviously distanced herself from Bruver. She hears him cry for her on the porch, but isn't interested. Bruver is lonely and he'll sit out there and cry, even looking in the window. But he'll eventually (after an hour) settle down and either wander a bit or go to sleep in the little house. Is this behavior on maMA's part normal? I think she's just tired of being a mommy. After all, had I not had her spayed, she'd have had her third litter at just over a year old! And is it normal for him to still be so attached to her? There really aren't that many cats in the neighborhood except one that comes and bugs Bruver occasionally. Any advice, hints would be preciated.  SignatureShirleyB, Rexie and Loki's Mom Pictures of His Majesty, Rex: http://tinyurl.com/bvtjv Pictures of Loki: http://tinyurl.com/9exao Pictures of Mama & Kits: http://tinyurl.com/e5edz Pix of "Bruver": http://tinyurl.com/jwvph Homepage: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com Webmaster: http://www.vinotecawinebar.com "Trying to make a way out of no way is sometimes the only way" Dr. Johnetta B. Cole Well, it probably is normal behaviour, since she wants to be in. Be nice if she could somehow let Bruver know it is OK for to trust the peeple inside. Does he see her inside at all? Do you spend much time jsut being out on the porch when he is in his house or will he run away if you do that. He sounds like if you could get him to trust you, he'd spend more time outside, but maybe he wouldn't have to be so lonely and maybe you could then get him fixed. I hear Kentucky Fried Chicken is alluring to cats. Maybe you could get a bucket and start working on Bruver. > Long story trying to be short, I've told the story of maMA, found last > summer, friendly as anything (dumped, I'm sure) pregnant, got her spayed. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Any advice, hints would be preciated. > Long story trying to be short, I've told the story of maMA, found last > summer, friendly as anything (dumped, I'm sure) pregnant, got her spayed. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > aren't that many cats in the neighborhood except one that comes and bugs > Bruver occasionally. Her behavior is normal. He would probably be over her as well if he wasn't lonely and reluctant to leave his food supply. That's sad. Lonely but too skittish to accept a home Jo "Shirley B." <twonickbutlers@excite.com> wrote in news:tVqlg.660$J6.493 @fe05.lga: > Pix of "Bruver": http://tinyurl.com/jwvph OMG, he's beautiful. Chak SignatureThe difference between the men and the boys in politics is, and always has been, that the boys want to be something, while the men want to do something. --Eric Sevareid >"Shirley B." <twonickbutlers@excite.com> wrote in news:tVqlg.660$J6.493 >@fe05.lga: > >> Pix of "Bruver": http://tinyurl.com/jwvph WOW! What a stunner! Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War I know. I wish wish wish he would grow to trust his peoples and come in and have friends. He's possibly the most stunning cat I've ever seen. > >"Shirley B." <twonickbutlers@excite.com> wrote in news:tVqlg.660$J6.493 > >@fe05.lga: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Make Levees, Not War >I know. I wish wish wish he would grow to trust his peoples and come in and > have friends. He's possibly the most stunning cat I've ever seen. Can you just imagine what he would look like with a clean warm bed, three squares a day and a thorough brushing? He is already gorgeous. Jo Jo, hi. I keep telling maMA to tell him to let me get at him. I'd love to comb that coat. Poor little thing loses clumps of hair in the little house and on the porch. I know he's shedding the winter coat, but he'd feel so much better if I could get in there and pull the mats out !! SignatureShirleyB, Rexie and Loki's Mom Pictures of His Majesty, Rex: http://tinyurl.com/bvtjv Pictures of Loki: http://tinyurl.com/9exao Pictures of Mama & Kits: http://tinyurl.com/e5edz Pictures of Bruver: http://tinyurl.com/f5jrq Homepage: http://jumi-shirley-butler.com Webmaster: http://www.vinotecawinebar.com "Trying to make a way out of No way is sometimes the only way" Dr. Johnetta B. Cole >>I know. I wish wish wish he would grow to trust his peoples and come in >>and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jo >THE PROBLEM/QUESTION: maMA has obviously distanced herself from Bruver. She >hears him cry for her on the porch, but isn't interested. Bruver is lonely [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >that many cats in the neighborhood except one that comes and bugs Bruver >occasionally. I don't have any advice, but what cute pictures! He's just a fluffy and inquisitive lion, isn't he? He DOES look a little like a lion, doesn't he? But not ferocious at all. Runs from us, runs if another cat comes around, unless he can get into the little house and hide. I'm going to try Karen's suggestion tonight re food. Don't have any chicken but I'll try tuna. I do sit out there a lot, but no matter how long I stay, he won't come unless I go in. BUT, I'll sit out there and put tuna on the edge of the porch (in addition to the dry. If he doesn't eat the tuna I can't leave it out there). Maybe if I do that every evening . . . . . >>And is it normal for him to still be so attached to her? There really >>aren't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't have any advice, but what cute pictures! He's just a fluffy > and inquisitive lion, isn't he? > Pix of "Bruver": http://tinyurl.com/jwvph I don't see the Bruver pictures. I see the Rexie section, the Rexie and Loki section, Loki, the Trio, Mom & Kits, Brother, Prissy, and Bathtime. Is this the right link? Thanks, Joyce >> Pix of "Bruver": http://tinyurl.com/jwvph > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks, > Joyce Bruver is the same as Brother. He's in that folder, a gorgeous orange lion :-) SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Bruver is the same as Brother. He's in that folder, a gorgeous orange > lion :-) Oh - LOL! I was hearing "Broover" (rhymes with Hoover) in my head when I saw the word Bruver. So I didn't connect them. Yes, he's a beauty!! Thanks, Joyce > Long story trying to be short, I've told the story of maMA, found last > summer, friendly as anything (dumped, I'm sure) pregnant, got her spayed. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Any advice, hints would be preciated. Oh my, what a gorgeous kitty! It's so sad to see his little face peering in the screen. Someone else suggested KFC to woo him with, I would *definitely* give that a try! SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ >THE PROBLEM/QUESTION: maMA has obviously distanced herself from Bruver. She >hears him cry for her on the porch, but isn't interested. Bruver is lonely [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Any advice, hints would be preciated. What a magnificent cat! What a shame that he hasn't learnt to trust yet... it sounds like all you can do is to feed him and give him his safe place outside and let him be. With enough time, maybe he'll get used to you enough to be tamed - look at what Christina achieved with Boyfriend and KFC! "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: >Someone else suggested KFC to woo him with, I would >*definitely* give that a try! >With enough time, maybe he'll get used to you enough to be >tamed - look at what Christina achieved with Boyfriend and KFC! I have to watch the context carefully in this thread so that I know what "KFC" means. I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? SignatureShirleyB, Rexie and Loki's Mom Pictures of His Majesty, Rex: http://tinyurl.com/bvtjv Pictures of Loki: http://tinyurl.com/9exao Pictures of Mama & Kits: http://tinyurl.com/e5edz Pictures of Bruver: http://tinyurl.com/f5jrq > "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: >>Someone else suggested KFC to woo him with, I would [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I have to watch the context carefully in this thread so that I know > what "KFC" means. > I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? Well in Christina's (AKA Tweed) case, KFC stands for Kitty Farm Cat. KFC didn't have a name, and so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet (man, I hope we didn't do that to you people) within it's borders. Pam S. >> I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Pam S. Are you kidding? Of course there's KFC in Britain. I've never been there but can absolutely guarantee it. KFC is everywhere. You wouldn't believe how many there were in Thailand, almost as many as 7/11's. They are in over 80 countries. In fact, the only countries I've ever been in that *didn't* have KFC are Laos and Burma. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >> Well in Christina's (AKA Tweed) case, KFC stands for Kitty Farm Cat. >> KFC didn't have a name, and so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >are in over 80 countries. In fact, the only countries I've ever been in >that *didn't* have KFC are Laos and Burma. We're so provincial. A person from Kentucky might be surprised to find a KFC in neighboring Tennessee, much less in Thailand. I'm even more provincial. I can get surprised when I see a Boston Market in uptown Boston instead of downtown Boston. :) >>> Well in Christina's (AKA Tweed) case, KFC stands for Kitty Farm Cat. >>> KFC didn't have a name, and so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I'm even more provincial. I can get surprised when I see a Boston > Market in uptown Boston instead of downtown Boston. :) ROFL! You crack me up, Tak :-) SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > I'm even more provincial. I can get surprised when I see a Boston > Market in uptown Boston instead of downtown Boston. :) Hey Tak, not to give you a heart attack, but we have them in California!! Joyce > Are you kidding? Of course there's KFC in Britain. I've never been > there but can absolutely guarantee it. KFC is everywhere. You wouldn't > believe how many there were in Thailand, almost as many as 7/11's. They > are in over 80 countries. In fact, the only countries I've ever been in > that *didn't* have KFC are Laos and Burma. Well I was hoping that at least one country had avoided the plague of American fast food. Pam S. who doubts if any countries have >> Are you kidding? Of course there's KFC in Britain. I've never been >> there but can absolutely guarantee it. KFC is everywhere. You [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. who doubts if any countries have Well, like I said, Laos and Burma have, and I'm sure there are a few others. But I think you have to be extremely third world in order to avoid it. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Well I was hoping that at least one country had avoided the plague of > American fast food. > > Pam S. who doubts if any countries have Well, we don't have KFC in Finland, but we do have Mc Donald's. Can't think of other American fast food places right now. Is Pizza Hut American? We have those. I generally boycott those multinational companies in favour of domestic and local ones. Haven't been in a McD for ten or fifteen years. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> Well I was hoping that at least one country had avoided the plague of >> American fast food. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of domestic and local ones. Haven't been in a McD for ten or fifteen > years. Yeppie Pizza hut is American I refuse to eat McDonalds after I saw one of their kitchens once the only thing good about it is the fries >Yeppie Pizza hut is American I refuse to eat McDonalds after I saw one >of their kitchens once the only thing good about it is the fries Really? The McD's kitchens I've seen are usually very clean. Cleaner than your average restaurant anyway. I worked in a McD's for almost 2 years once - and I have the scars to prove it. Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita >> Are you kidding? Of course there's KFC in Britain. I've never been >> there but can absolutely guarantee it. KFC is everywhere. You [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. who doubts if any countries have Possibly North Korea, I can't think there are many. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >Well in Christina's (AKA Tweed) case, KFC stands for Kitty Farm Cat. >KFC didn't have a name, and so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a >Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet (man, I hope we didn't do that to you >people) within it's borders. They've got _500_ KFCs in China, why not the UK? >> and so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a Kentucky Fried >> Chicken outlet (man, I hope we didn't do that to you people) >> within it's borders. > They've got _500_ KFCs in China, why not the UK? I'm sure you're right, but I still thought it was funny when Pam said "man, I hope we didn't do that to you people". :) Joyce > and so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet > (man, I hope we didn't do that to you people) within it's borders. Hmmm... I *think* there's one in the middle of London... it's only open in the mornings, though. ;-) Deb. Signaturehttp://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield so far as I know, Britain doesn't have a > Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet (man, I hope we didn't do that to you > people) within it's borders./// Unfortunately, Kentucky Fried Chicken is as insidious as Macdonalds in this country. :o( It's great bait for trapping ferals though! ;o) Helen M >> I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Pam S. We've got hundreds of Fried Chicken outlets, they've been here for many years. :-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>>I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > We've got hundreds of Fried Chicken outlets, they've been here for many > years. :-) I'm so sorry. Pam S. >>>> I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Pam S. It's not your fault ;-) it's at least 25 years since I last ate anything from KFC. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > It's not your fault ;-) it's at least 25 years since I last ate anything > from KFC. Funny you should say that... last time I ate at KFC was in Acapulco, Mexico, when I was in college. A pen-pal I had met in St. Louis was visiting my family and she got all excited when she saw the KFC, so we went eating there. :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > I'm assuming it means Kentucky Fried Chicken?? In one of the cases, yes. In the other, it means Kitty Farm Cat. Not to be confusing or anything... :) - Joyce Kentucky Friend! Kentucky Fried!! - Smudge & Roxy Kitty Farm Cat! Kitty Farm Cat!! - Licky >In one of the cases, yes. In the other, it means Kitty Farm Cat. >Not to be confusing or anything... :) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >- Licky Tastes great, less filling? > Tastes great, less filling? This reminds me of something funny, which has nothing whatsoever to do with what we've been discussing on this thread (although it's seen quite a bit of thread drift anyway). Several years ago, one of the Russian presidents, it might have been Gorbachov, or maybe Yeltsin, visited New York. Anyway, he was in a motorcade going down a main street in Manhattan, and there was a huge crowd assembled to see him. For some weird reason (the article I read about it might have said why, but I don't remember), people started yelling "Tastes Great!" in unison, on one side of the street, and "Less Filling!" on the other, as the car went by. It was like a call-and-response. I can't imagine what the visiting statesman must have made of that. :) Joyce > > Tastes great, less filling? I remember seeing KFC in England, and several other chains I recognized. I must admit I'm rather impressed with the Curry Chicken Burgers at McD's in Belgium...those are goooooood and I want them here in Canada! I could pass on the Cheese Nuggets though. (Imagine a Chicken McNugget, made of cheese.) I think the best thing you can do for Brother is to keep feeding him (as close as possible to your front door) and sitting out when you can...eventually he will hopefully get used to you, and then want to come in. My dad had a stray cat take up residence in his driving shed and it took him about 8 months of feeding to get "StormShadow" to let him near. The next summer, StormShadow spent most of the summer on our porch, caring for kittens while the mother cats went for food, water and hunting, never mind all the people going in and out right past him...precious! --Fil >> > Tastes great, less filling? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I could pass on the Cheese Nuggets though. (Imagine a Chicken > McNugget, made of cheese.) I always get a kick out of the different things they have at McDonald's in other countries. Seems that they always have the basic staples, but then they have a few "regional specialties". In Thailand, they had these pork burgers for a while where there was no bun but 2 patties made of sticky rice. They also had McSomTam (green papaya salad) which came in the salad shaker cup. Thais looooove fried chicken (hence all the KFC's) so McD's also has fried chicken. It really was amazing at how many franchises there were in Thailand. Some very commonly seen ones were KFC, Pizza Hut, McDonald's, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts, Sizzler, Starbucks, Dairy Queen and Baskin Robbins. In Australia, I've noticed McD's have an Aussie burger, which has beetroot on it. I'm not into beetroot in the slightest, but Dennis likes it but said that the McD's Aussie burger is vastly inferior to the Hungry Jack's one. From what I've gathered, Hungry Jacks is the Aussie version of Burger King. It's funny, but there seem to be less American franchises in Australia than there were in Thailand. I've yet to see a Starbucks for instance. Are there any on the other side of the country or are they just not in Australia? And before everyone thinks we constantly eat fast food...we really don't! It's just something we save for road trips. Also, we have done a ton of travelling and I know I've been to more countries than the average Joe. But many times we were glad of the fast food joints because they were about all we could afford. This does not apply to our travels in Asia, where fast food is way more expensive than local food from street stands. But after 5 years in Asia, you get to the point where you crave some non-Asian food, no matter what the cost! SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >>> > Tastes great, less filling? >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > But after 5 years in Asia, you get to the point where you crave some > non-Asian food, no matter what the cost! I got a kick out of (and enjoyed) the steamed rice you could get all the time at the McDonalds in Hawaii. I like fast food, but get to the point where I think I'll gag if I have to eat one more thing that is fried. (I do really love Arby's) Jo > (I do really love Arby's) YUM!!! The cats love it too, and can recognize an Arby's bag from a great distance. Pam S. I'm afraid Australia has most of the American fast food chains and other American chain stores. Here in Sydney there are several starbucks, gloria jeans, krispy kreme, subway, mc d, kfc, hungry jacks (burger king), red rooster, borders bookstore, um... and now I run out of knowledge about which generic chain stores are of American origin and which might be Australian! Tish >I always get a kick out of the different things they have at McDonald's >in other countries. Seems that they always have the basic staples, but [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >from street stands. But after 5 years in Asia, you get to the point >where you crave some non-Asian food, no matter what the cost! |
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