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Tanada - 19 Jun 2006 00:25 GMT I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and information. I'm hoping that they have some sort of idea that can help you. Have you tried medicaid? If you don't receive Social Security, medicare is not going to do much for you.
The owners are purring hard for you and I'm thinking healthy thoughts and wishes for you to get the treatment you need fastest and that you are in better shape than you think.
Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and alt.support.breastcancer out
Christina Websell - 19 Jun 2006 01:25 GMT >I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on >alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and > alt.support.breastcancer out I am so appalled by kili's situation. It's absolutely disgusting that there are doctors out there who could help her but choose not to because she cannot pay "up front." They deserve to rot in hell. Choosing to be a doctor means you want to help sick people. doesn't it? Not to line your pocket so you can have have posh houses and cars. Ahhh, don't start me on this.
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badwilson - 19 Jun 2006 04:22 GMT >> I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on >> alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Tweed I don't think it's up to the doctors themselves. They are employed by the hospital, after all. And if it's the hospital's policy to demand money up front for surgeries, there's probably not much an individual doctor can do about that. It's not like they could just perform the surgery in their own home in the evening or something. The whole situation sickens me. From what I gather, Kili doesn't qualify for Medicare because she doesn't have children. That is disgusting. So you have to be a breeding pod in order to get lifesaving breast cancer sugery?!?! The state of affairs in the US is frightening. Truly. You couldn't *pay* me to live there.
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sriddles@aol.com - 19 Jun 2006 05:25 GMT Kili, I am so sorry and want you to know that along with everyone else, I am sending prayers on your behalf. Prayers for your recovery and also to get through the red tape that you can start treatment and healing soon
Sherry
MaryL - 19 Jun 2006 07:32 GMT >>> I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on >>> alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > sugery?!?! The state of affairs in the US is frightening. Truly. You > couldn't *pay* me to live there. I also gind the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I am fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that everyone should be responsible for his or her insurance, but those people always seem to be the ones who can *afford* it. We have many people who are the working poor -- they work at full-time jobs (often very arduous) but are not covered by insurance. Employers often keep employees just slightly *under* "full-time specifically so that benefits do not have to be paid. More and more people who are not "poor" are now beginnign to see these problems as more employers either drop insurance coverage or raise the premiums that employees must pay. There are also those who cannot get insurance because companies generally will not cover pre-existing conditions. It is truly frightening -- and should be a national scandal -- to think of the number of people who are unable to get insurance. At the same time, I think there is some confusion in this thread. There is a difference between Medicare and Medicaid. I believe *children* of a deceased parent (and the surviving spouse, under certain circumstances) are eligible for Medicare. Other than that, Medicare is based on a person's age and work history. Medicare basically applies to those over age 65 and for some very limited medical care for others (I believe permanent kidney failure is covered). Medicaid and other forms of public assistance are means-tested, and people below certain income levels are eligible for Medicaid. The combination leaves a large number of people completely without medical resources. It is a hard-hearted policy, and I think it is unforgivable.
MaryL
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Jun 2006 19:27 GMT > I also find the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I am > fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that everyone > should be responsible for his or her insurance, but those people always seem > to be the ones who can *afford* it. I think John Kerry had the right idea - simply provide the same kind of coverage for tax-paying citizens as the government does to members of Congress! (After all, WE'RE the ones who pay for all those benefits, plus their inflated salaries.)
MaryL - 19 Jun 2006 21:04 GMT >> I also find the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I am >> fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Congress! (After all, WE'RE the ones who pay for all those benefits, plus > their inflated salaries.) Actually, the superior type of care provided for Congress (and the President and Supreme Court) would probably bankrupt the system if it were provided to everyone. Instead, I think medical care should be provided for everyone, and the "free" care provided to those officials should be reduced to conform to whatever is provided to the rest of the public. I really think it's a shame that the work done by Hillary Rodham Clinton early in the first Clinton administration was shot down instead of being worked on and modified. I blame both "politics" (re: automatic Republican rejection) and also the Clintons for not providing adequate input and early information to the public. There were obvious problems that surfaced as the proposals were unveiled, but those documents should have been used as a springboard for a better-developed plan instead of rejecting everything. Of course, the debate over national health insurance has been going on as long as I can remember.
MaryL
CatNipped - 19 Jun 2006 21:17 GMT >>> I also find the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I am >>> fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > provided to everyone. Instead, I think medical care should be provided > for everyone, The heck with what healthcare Congress is provided, let's just use some of our defense budget! We're already the most lethal country in the world (nobody else could possibly overcome our military might) and we have the capability of destroying the world a hundred times over. If we took just a *fraction* of those *billions* of dollars to save lives rather than research how to destory them, we wouldn't *have* a healthcare problem in the US! But as long as US citizens buy into the scare tactics of our government, this sad state of affairs is doomed to go on.
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> and the "free" care provided to those officials should be reduced to > conform to whatever is provided to the rest of the public. I really think [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > MaryL MaryL - 19 Jun 2006 21:40 GMT >>>> I also find the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I >>>> am fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > CatNipped Good point! And what about the enormous deficit that has been racked up in the last few years -- a deficit that will only continue to increase (with interest, of course) if we continue on the present course??
MaryL
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 20 Jun 2006 01:47 GMT "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> The heck with what healthcare Congress is provided, let's just use some of > our defense budget! We're already the most lethal country in the world [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > research how to destory them, we wouldn't *have* a healthcare problem in > the US! And yet, with all those billions in the defense budget, many soldiers in Iraq don't even have adequate equipment, or enough of other living essentials such as soap and even FOOD. Where in god's name is that money going??
Joyce
CatNipped - 20 Jun 2006 01:58 GMT > "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joyce Where most of our tax dollars go - into some crooked politician's pocket or a crooked contractor charging the government $5,000 for a screw driver!
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Jun 2006 06:04 GMT > "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > essentials such as soap and even FOOD. Where in god's name is that money > going?? You have to ASK? (Remember the $300 toilet seats?)
> Joyce Tanada - 22 Jun 2006 21:13 GMT >> "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > You have to ASK? (Remember the $300 toilet seats?) Ok, I'm getting PO'd here. Do you know that most of the defense budget goes to programs other than defense? Remember that bovine methane gas study? Congress financed that out of department of defense moneys. Defense money covers Active Duty, National Guard, and Reserve Units, and is still removed by congress to cover their pet pork projects. Defense funds covers emergency relief efforts (can you say Katrina and Rita? I knew you could). State and local governments do not re-imburse the military for any of those expenses.
Military medevac units transfer critically injured and ill patients to trauma units all over the world. Most of the wounded and injured that Rob's units transferred to hospital care were CIVILIANS the us army does not charge countries or individuals for those services.
Defense money often pays for diplomatic programs in other countries. When Rob was stationed in Europe, Defense money covered a good portion of the American presence in the peaceful negotiated split of the Slovenian nations. He knew this as his unit provided a lot of the transportation for diplomats, their staff, and their security teams from one place to another as needed. Military money paid for the expenses of both the military units providing services and some of the civilian staff involved.
And do you know what military personnel receive for all those years of 16-20 hour days? Rob receives $1750 a month combined retirement and disability payment for a cancer he probably received in Desert Storm. He gets told that he shouldn't even receive that much. He gets called a baby killer, torturer, and rapist. He is told that the money that he should have received in equipment and wages is being wasted on $300 toilet seats. He is told that the medical program that barely covers his family is redundant and that the government shouldn't have to cover his insurance, let alone his family's. He has been spit at, propositioned, threatened, and called things that should have got someone's mouth washed out with soap.
I get to read people in her reviling the very military that makes it possible for people to post some of the nastiest sentiments I've ever read about a country of profession. If someone were to post such stuff about, say Finland (Sorry Marina and Christina) everyone in here, including me, would be up in arms. But because I agree with Rob for his reasons for going into the military, I mark the meanness as read, and try to ignore the hateful things said about my country, president, and my husband's profession.
I agree that America is far from perfect and that there are times when I wonder why I voted for George W. Bush. (I don't wonder why I didn't vote for A. Gore). Sometimes I think that living in another country would be wonderful. At least I wouldn't have to read this crap.
I love all you people, but I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I need a vacation from your hateful spite. I will come back when I have calmed down enough to decide whether to apologize to you or not. Right now I feel as though Rob and I, especially ROB deserves the apology.
Pam S.
CatNipped - 22 Jun 2006 21:49 GMT >>> "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > Pam S. Pam, the very fact that we're spending billions of dollars on defense and soldiers are *not* equipped as they should be, and veterans are *not* taken care of as they should be, is exactly what pisses me off so bad. I have *NO* problem with the men and women who serve our country, I have *NEVER* been disrespectful of soldiers who have put themselves in harms way for my freedoms (and I lived through Viet Nam and succored friends who came back broken and battered in both body and spirit and reputation from that debacle).
The fact that George Bush and his cronies lied to get us to go to war with Iraq, and *WAY* too many young men and women have died there (the latest tortured and beheaded) and have to construct their own, inadequate shielding, do not have a proper diet, etc. - well, that makes me *VERY* angry... but not at *THEM*.
I am sorry if anything I wrote upset you. I have only the greatest respect for our soldiers, and I have the greatest love for my country, but I have lost all respect or trust in the people currently governing it.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 20 Jun 2006 01:42 GMT > Medicaid and other forms of public assistance are means-tested, and > people below certain income levels are eligible for Medicaid. The > combination leaves a large number of people completely without medical > resources. It is a hard-hearted policy, and I think it is unforgivable. There are a huge number of people who fall through the cracks - they don't have enough money to afford individual insurance, but they're too "wealthy" for public assistance (ie, Medicaid). The poverty line for most public benefits in this country is so low that it leaves many people who actually do need assistance out in the cold.
The Clintons took a stab at addressing the issue, and then buckled under almost immediately to the insurance lobby (wimps!). The health care problem will never be resolved as long as we have to appease the insurance industry. In my opinion, something as essential as health care should not be a for-profit enterprise.
Joyce
Enfilade - 21 Jun 2006 01:08 GMT > There are a huge number of people who fall through the cracks - they > don't have enough money to afford individual insurance, but they're too > "wealthy" for public assistance (ie, Medicaid). The poverty line for > most public benefits in this country is so low that it leaves many > people who actually do need assistance out in the cold. I have friends in the US who are engaged, but not married, and the odds are, they may never actually be married because...
While each is single, as two single people they qualify under a state plan for insurance for low-income people. They are able to get assistance with medical care, drugs and discounts for gym membership.
HOWEVER, if they were to get married, the household maximum-income is considerably less than the maximum-income for two single people. It's as though it were assumed that if they married, they would have kids and one of them would not work, or work part time, while caring for the kids.
As a couple, their current incomes added together exceed the maximum income for a household. Yet it still does not allow them to purchase individual insurance. Their jobs do not offer either of them any health benefits.
And since she has some ongoing medical conditions, the only way she can afford care is if they stay "single" and share an apartment.
She had to neglect her health for several years before she got engaged for simple lack of money to treat her condition, and it showed. Since she's been on this assistance plan, she's a lot more energetic, more healthy and has lost about 60 lbs.
--Fil
kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 08:53 GMT > > There are a huge number of people who fall through the cracks - they > > don't have enough money to afford individual insurance, but they're too [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > and one of them would not work, or work part time, while caring for the > kids. Since, I'm married, under 40, with no dependents and my husband makes too much money at lets, say, well under $20,000, it was so hard to get funding for me. My husband makes too much money. Yeah, okay. Anyway, the point is, we've considered getting a divorce so that I could get help. It was going to be a last option, but we discussed it.
Thank God I found a private agency that gets funding through rich individuals who are willing to help. The surgeon and hospital get paid through this, so no further money comes out of Americans pockets.
It's a win-win situation.
kili
Enfilade - 21 Jun 2006 14:49 GMT > Since, I'm married, under 40, with no dependents and my husband makes too > much money at lets, say, well under $20,000, it was so hard to get funding [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > kili I am so glad that things are turning around and I will keep my kitties purring for you.
While I believe in public support for kids (ie, even though I don't have kids, I'm glad to pay taxes to help fund education), I do think it's ridiculous that single people seem to get more than families without children.
--Fil
kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 15:21 GMT > > Since, I'm married, under 40, with no dependents and my husband makes too > > much money at lets, say, well under $20,000, it was so hard to get funding [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > --Fil I absolutely agree, Fil. If nothing else, I'm thinking of taking my case to the media in the hopes that we can change things.
kili
MaryL - 21 Jun 2006 16:23 GMT >> Since, I'm married, under 40, with no dependents and my husband makes too >> much money at lets, say, well under $20,000, it was so hard to get [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > --Fil Part of this is based on the fact that it does *not* cost a married couple twice as much as a single person. That is, a single person without children will pay approximately as much for a home as a married couple without children because they obviously do not need to pay for two homes. Likewise, food costs more for a married couple than for a single person but not a great deal more because certain ingredients need to be purchased at about the same amounts. So, it's really difficult to determine "equity" when it comes to tax burdens and other costs, assuming that none of the parties have children. Obviously, this would not include expenses such as medical care because that it all done on an individual basis.
MaryL
Enfilade - 22 Jun 2006 00:35 GMT > Part of this is based on the fact that it does *not* cost a married couple > twice as much as a single person. That is, a single person without children [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > great deal more because certain ingredients need to be purchased at about > the same amounts. I see your point, but I also see some flaws in it. I think it depends on prior standards of living.
If you're a single person and you are living in a bachelor apartment (basically using your living room as a bedroom, with a kitchen and a bathroom ) or a rooming house (semi-private bedroom, shared bathroom and kitchen) you can rent as low as $350/month, whereas a single-bedroom apartment is twice that in this town. There are a lot of families who will rent out rooms to singles, but won't allow couples. And since they're not really "landlords"--they're letting you share their home for money as opposed to giving you a property of your own to rent--the laws are hazy and they can be much more restrictive than rental companies.
While a house is the same price no matter how many live in it, rentals can be different. You can't fit two people into a rooming house room very easily, even if it is allowed. You're also assuming the people, when single, were paying for homes instead of couch-surfing or some such.
And you can live even cheaper than that--as a single person, I was able to couch-surf at friends' houses for weeks/months and didn't have a fixed address or pay rent for the months in between school and military service. That changed when I became part of a couple and felt the duty to help provide a permanent home and fixed address for my partner, and we were paying rent 12 months of the year on an apartment instead of me rooming for 8 months, barracking free for 3 and couch-surfing for 1.
Once I found myself in a "family," I had expensive obligations I didn't have when it was just me.
I also felt bad about feeding him the stuff I scadged to eat when I was single, like the landlord's leftovers or old field rations from the base. So I felt obliged to cough up my share of purchasing food.
I guess I could've said no, but I don't know how well he would have adapted to my nomadic lifestyle. I also don't know anyone who would have let BOTH of us live in their house for under $600/month, which is what we paid in rent on our first apartment (prior to that, I'd been paying no more than $400 at the maximum, and often, nothing. I'd never signed a lease and never rented from a company. And prior to that, he'd been living with his family as a dependent, for "free" [ie, free to him, cost borne by his parents along with the cost of his two brothers].)
--Fil
Cheryl Perkins - 22 Jun 2006 00:56 GMT <snip>
> And you can live even cheaper than that--as a single person, I was able > to couch-surf at friends' houses for weeks/months and didn't have a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > we were paying rent 12 months of the year on an apartment instead of me > rooming for 8 months, barracking free for 3 and couch-surfing for 1.
> Once I found myself in a "family," I had expensive obligations I didn't > have when it was just me. As a single person, I quickly tired of the shared apartments and never couch-surfed, so from a comparatively early stage of living on my own, I was paying more than couples or accomodation-sharing singles for similar places to live. The extra cost is worth it to me, but it does mean that my cost of living for housing is much higher than it would be if I were half of a couple or even found a room-mate.
> I also felt bad about feeding him the stuff I scadged to eat when I was > single, like the landlord's leftovers or old field rations from the > base. So I felt obliged to cough up my share of purchasing food. I spend a lot on food, but I don't think that cost would be reduced if I shared. I'm good and experienced at cooking at least 4 servings of everything and freezing three, and very rarely bother with over-priced single servings. If anything, I'd spend more on food as part of a couple because there'd be two people's ideas of a favourite treat to consider!
> I guess I could've said no, but I don't know how well he would have > adapted to my nomadic lifestyle. I also don't know anyone who would [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to him, cost borne by his parents along with the cost of his two > brothers].) But not all singles have either your or your DH's pre-marriage lifestyle!
Your prices are about what I'd expect here, though. A young couple I know who are just starting off are living in rooms in shared houses, and trying to find a small cheap apartment to share. Shared rooms run $350-400/month each, and they're hoping for an apartment in the $600 range, including utilities, but aren't having much luck finding anything that's half decent in an area with transportation for their education and work.
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MaryL - 22 Jun 2006 03:36 GMT >> Part of this is based on the fact that it does *not* cost a married >> couple [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I see your point, but I also see some flaws in it. I think it depends > on prior standards of living. Yes, but that's whay it reall is difficult to determine "equity" -- that is, we do not live alike (single or married). Much probably also depends on age -- students will have a different life style than retired people (again, regardless of marital status), yet I also know young newlyweds who expect to move into homes of the same standard as their parents who have married for many years. I never lived in the same type of arrangements as you described, and couples who talk about not getting married because of the "marriage tax" sometimes are *already* sharing a home.
Not an easy cost to analyze...
MaryL
polonca12000 - 21 Jun 2006 21:42 GMT <snip>
> Thank God I found a private agency that gets funding through rich > individuals who are willing to help. The surgeon and hospital get paid [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > kili I do wish you the very best, kili! We continue to purr for you and send best wishes and hugs, Polonca and Soncek
jmcquown - 20 Jun 2006 23:33 GMT >>>> I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on >>>> alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > MaryL Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from state to state even though the program receives federal funding). I had emergency surgery back in 1993, the very day I was supposed to start a new job and would have been *fully* covered by insurance from day one if I hadn't been rushed off the the hospital instead. The woman in the hospital social services office essentially told me later that because I didn't have children I may as well not bother applying for Medicaid assistance. It was her experience they would turn me down flat.
Jill
alex - 20 Jun 2006 23:51 GMT > Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from > state [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jill Untrue, I am a breast cancer survivor and have worked in hospitals for over 30 years. From what I can tell the hospital asked how Kilki would satisfy her bill. She was asked for a deposit which she didn't have she was assigned a social worker, I don't think she has filed the paper work. If her application is complete but not approved often the hospital will provide services since they can bill retro-actively. http://ahca.myflorida.com/Medicaid/pdffiles/sos.pdf
People do have to spend down there assets but Kilki doesn't have any. But you do have to provide information. The quickest way is to go to the local office and file in person. Call her state representative to assist her.
Kilkini needs to have the lump out (it may not even be cancer) and she needs to do take the proper steps ASAP.
kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 08:50 GMT > > Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from > > state [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Kilkini needs to have the lump out (it may not even be cancer) and she needs > to do take the proper steps ASAP. I was never assigned a social worker, though. *I* found a social service agency that's in the process of helping me (and I've sent off all the paperwork), but I also found funding through a private organization called Healthy Women Today that's funding the entire thing. I went to another surgical consult on Monday (I like this surgeon better, anyway) and they're pushing up my surgery. It's supposed to be Friday, but the funding may not come through in time. I'm expecting a phone call from a hospital today to tell me where I have to go and when.
I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will then send the lumps to the pathologist for the biopsy. If cancer is present, I'll have to come back for a second surgery to remove the lymph nodes, which will then be tested. If they're clean, I'm good. If they're not, I have to decide upon radiation or a mastectomy.
The important thing is that the surgery is covered AND I have filed for disability/medicaid for any future problems.
It's been such a long ordeal, but there's finally light at the end of the tunnel.
kili
badwilson - 21 Jun 2006 09:14 GMT >>> Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies >>> from state [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > kili I am *so* glad to hear this, Kili. I hope your surgery can happen as soon as possible and that it even turns out that your lumps were benign. Hugs and purrs,
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kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 10:04 GMT > > It's been such a long ordeal, but there's finally light at the end of > > the tunnel. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Thanks, Britta!
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Marina - 21 Jun 2006 09:16 GMT > The important thing is that the surgery is covered AND I have filed for > disability/medicaid for any future problems. > > It's been such a long ordeal, but there's finally light at the end of the > tunnel. I'm so glad that the funding is sorted now. Now you have to concentrate on getting better. When I had my thyroid gland removed due to a malignant tumour, a nurse at the hospital said the best thing patients can do to fight cancer is to keep their spirits up. All the stress you had to go through to find funding is so counterproductive and I'm so sorry you had to jump through all those hoops. I hope it didn't aggravate your condition, and we are sending loads of purrs that the lumps turn out to be non-cancerous.
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kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 10:04 GMT > > The important thing is that the surgery is covered AND I have filed for > > disability/medicaid for any future problems. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > aggravate your condition, and we are sending loads of purrs that the > lumps turn out to be non-cancerous. Thank you, Marina!
kili
Adrian A - 21 Jun 2006 10:34 GMT >>> Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies >>> from state [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > kili Purrs for the lumps to be benign.
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kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 11:21 GMT > > I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will > > then send the lumps to the pathologist for the biopsy. If cancer is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Purrs for the lumps to be benign. > -- Thank you, Adrian! I appreciate it. I'm absolutely terrified, though!
kili
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Tish Silberbauer - 21 Jun 2006 11:25 GMT >I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will then >send the lumps to the pathologist for the biopsy. If cancer is present, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >kili My Mum is a breast cancer survivor - she was diagnosed about this time last year. She ended up having a mastectomy on one side and is now absolutely fine - free of cancer. For various reasons, she could not have had radiotherapy or chemotherapy, so she is very thankful that surgery was sufficient. It's funny, for some people cancer is a life-changing event, but for my mother it was just one more thing to deal with alongside her various other problems. For her, I think this was (and is) a very healthy attitude and approach to the cancer and helped her to recover quickly and without complications. I guess I'm trying to say two things; firstly that breast cancer treatment these days seems to have a high rate of success if they catch it before it escapes elsewhere, and secondly that adopting a positive attitude that suits your personality and outlook can be the best medicine, even if what you're doing is different from what everyone else is doing.
Tish
kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 12:45 GMT > >I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will then > >send the lumps to the pathologist for the biopsy. If cancer is present, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Tish Thanks, Tish. I love hearing about survivors!
kili
Karen - 21 Jun 2006 16:00 GMT > > >I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will > then [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > kili My best friends mother had a double mastecotomy over 40 years ago and has remained cancer free. It CAN happen!!!!
Irulan - 21 Jun 2006 14:55 GMT Kili, I am so glad to hear this. Hang in there, baby. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, long though it may seem. We are constantly purring and praying for you.
Lily & her mama
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> >> > Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > kili kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 15:44 GMT > Kili, I am so glad to hear this. Hang in there, baby. There is a light at > the end of the tunnel, long though it may seem. We are constantly purring > and praying for you. > > Lily & her mama Thank you!
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Karen - 21 Jun 2006 15:59 GMT Oh my god I am so happy. I just can't even post I've been so worried for you and felt so helpless. I'm just crying and will continue to pray that a lumpectomy does the job for you. Bless you Kili.
> > > Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from > > > state [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > kili kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 16:10 GMT > Oh my god I am so happy. I just can't even post I've been so worried for you > and felt so helpless. I'm just crying and will continue to pray that a > lumpectomy does the job for you. Bless you Kili. I'm not giving up yet; I've contacted the Montel Williams show and Oprah. I'm going to be the breast cancer advocate. I'm a fighter and now I have a reason to fight. I'll get the laws changed so this doesn't happen to anyone else. Watch me.
kili
Rhonda - 21 Jun 2006 17:49 GMT >>Oh my god I am so happy. I just can't even post I've been so worried for >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > reason to fight. I'll get the laws changed so this doesn't happen to anyone > else. Watch me. You go, girl!
Good for you, we need people like you to change things.
Tell me what day you're going to be on Oprah. I'll be parked in front of the screen with popcorn, yelling my head off.
You were so sick on Monday I was worried about you and the appt, I'm so glad to read your post today.
We still have everything crossed for you -- cats, rabbits, and humans. In fact, the cats want to know when they can uncross because they have to go to the bathroom.
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kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 22:07 GMT > >>Oh my god I am so happy. I just can't even post I've been so worried for > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Rhonda Thanks, Rhonda. I still have to hear back from Oprah, but I'll keep contacting them until she gets people like me on. Something's got to change.
kili
Jane - 22 Jun 2006 13:08 GMT >Thanks, Rhonda. I still have to hear back from Oprah, but I'll keep >contacting them until she gets people like me on. Something's got to >change. > >kili Don't forget your local and national news agencies, too. And PBS.
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CatNipped - 21 Jun 2006 16:29 GMT Purrs coming that everything turns out well.
*NEVER* stop fighting! Your state of mind has *ENORMOUS* effect on the outcome. 25 years ago I had a friend who first had one breast removed, then the other, then a hysterectomy, then a mass in her knee removed as cancer progressed throughout her body. This was back when cancer treatment was still fairly primitive. She had chemotherapy and radiation therapy and she was *HORRIBLY* sick for a very long time. But she had four small children and would tell me, "I *REFUSE* to die and miss my children's graduations and weddings!". She is still alive and well today!
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>> > Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from >> > state [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > kili kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 23:18 GMT > Purrs coming that everything turns out well. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped Your mind definitely does have an enormous effect; I absolutely agree! I, to be honest, didn't feel like I had much to live for when this all came up, but now I know I'm here to be a breast cancer advocate. It is going to be my job to make sure people in my situation get coverage. This is going to be my personal goal. I will start a fund, I'll be the next Oprah. Watch me. I'm going to make things move. I don't want any other woman out there to go through what I've gone through. I feel so powerful right now, isn't that weird? :~)
kili
CatNipped - 22 Jun 2006 00:14 GMT >> Purrs coming that everything turns out well. >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > kili *GOOD FOR YOU*!!! Gawd knows we need somebody to shine a bright light on our health care system in this country, I wish you all the success in the world with that *AND* with recovering!
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Joy - 22 Jun 2006 01:58 GMT > > Purrs coming that everything turns out well. > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > kili Not weird, but wonderful. You go, girl!
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polonca12000 - 22 Jun 2006 21:38 GMT > Your mind definitely does have an enormous effect; I absolutely agree! I, > to be honest, didn't feel like I had much to live for when this all came up, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > kili Good for you, kili! Lots and lots of health purrs and best wishes for success in your endeavors, Polonca and Soncek
kilikini - 23 Jun 2006 10:06 GMT > > Your mind definitely does have an enormous effect; I absolutely agree! I, > > to be honest, didn't feel like I had much to live for when this all came up, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Lots and lots of health purrs and best wishes for success in your endeavors, > Polonca and Soncek Thanks! I appreciate all purrs. :~)
kili
polonca12000 - 21 Jun 2006 21:50 GMT <snip>
> I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will then > send the lumps to the pathologist for the biopsy. If cancer is present, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > kili We are purring for you and are sending best wishes for the lumps to be benign. We are thinking of you, sending gentle hugs, Polonca and Soncek
kilikini - 21 Jun 2006 23:15 GMT > <snip> > > I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will then [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > We are thinking of you, sending gentle hugs, > Polonca and Soncek Thank you! My surgery has been moved up to Tuesday and I'm hoping for the best!
kili
Tanada - 22 Jun 2006 04:20 GMT > I'm going to have two lumps removed under local anesthsia. They will then > send the lumps to the pathologist for the biopsy. If cancer is present, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It's been such a long ordeal, but there's finally light at the end of the > tunnel. <<<Kili>>>
I'm so glad that things are starting to work out. Cancer is an expensive disease and so hard to get financial help for. I wish I could have done more to help you out.
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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 26 Jun 2006 18:05 GMT >I was never assigned a social worker, though. *I* found a social service >agency that's in the process of helping me (and I've sent off all the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >kili I am so glad to hear this, kili. Purrs surrounding you for successful surgery and treatment.
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kilikini - 26 Jun 2006 18:13 GMT > >I was never assigned a social worker, though. *I* found a social service > >agency that's in the process of helping me (and I've sent off all the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Thanks, Ginger-Lyn. I actually go for my pre-op today and surgery is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm hoping for the best.
kili
Adrian A - 26 Jun 2006 18:19 GMT >>> I was never assigned a social worker, though. *I* found a social >>> service agency that's in the process of helping me (and I've sent [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > kili Mega purrs for Tuesday.
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kilikini - 26 Jun 2006 18:29 GMT > >>> I was never assigned a social worker, though. *I* found a social > >>> service agency that's in the process of helping me (and I've sent [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Mega purrs for Tuesday. > -- Thanks, Adrian. I am so scared, I can't even tell you. All purrs are appreciated.
kili
polonca12000 - 26 Jun 2006 22:19 GMT > Thanks, Ginger-Lyn. I actually go for my pre-op today and surgery is > scheduled for tomorrow. I'm hoping for the best. > > kili We will be thinking of you, kili, sending lots and lots of purrs, best wishes and gentle hugs, Polonca and Soncek
jmcquown - 21 Jun 2006 17:50 GMT >> Yes, except the Medicaid system is very unreasonable (and varies from >> state [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Untrue, I am a breast cancer survivor and have worked in hospitals > for over 30 years. I'm talking about Medicaid, not the hospital wanting a deposit. I can state unequivocally the hospital social worker told me "don't bother applying" when she found out I'm not a single mother.
Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Jun 2006 19:23 GMT > I don't think it's up to the doctors themselves. They are employed by > the hospital, after all. Not exactly. Unless they are still "residents", they are "self-employed", and pay dues to be on a hospital's staff. But of course they do not set the hospital's charges (which include anesthesiology, use of operating and treatment rooms, nursing care, etc.). However, I think they set their own fees for treatment, even if they are in a practice with other doctors. I know the partner of my gynecology surgeon did not accept Medicare patients, but he did. If they do, they must accept whatever fee Medicare approves as their entire fee, although if the "approved" amount is more than Medicare actually pays, the patient is responsible for the balance.
> And if it's the hospital's policy to demand > money up front for surgeries, there's probably not much an individual > doctor can do about that. It's not like they could just perform the > surgery in their own home in the evening or something. > The whole situation sickens me. From what I gather, Kili doesn't > qualify for Medicare because she doesn't have children. I think you are confusing "Medicare" with "Medicaid". "Medicare" is available to anyone over sixty-five who has paid Social Security taxes (which are taxes deducted from their wages). Although a doctor or hospital is not REQUIRED to accept Medicare patients, most of them do, in which case they bill Medicare, who in turn bills either the patient or the patient's supplementary insurance provider (if there is one). SFAIK, there's no "up front" about it, in that case.
"Medicaid" on the other hand, is administered as part of the state's "welfare" system, so the rules may vary from state to state. What is considered "below poverty level" income in one state may not qualify as such in another, and of course other rules may differ, too.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 Jun 2006 18:58 GMT > I am so appalled by kili's situation. It's absolutely disgusting that there > are doctors out there who could help her but choose not to because she > cannot pay "up front." > They deserve to rot in hell.
> Choosing to be a doctor means you want to help sick people. doesn't it? Not > to line your pocket so you can have have posh houses and cars. > Ahhh, don't start me on this. I'm inclined to agree, although in the U.S. I blame the system as much as the doctors. We are the only civlised country in the world that does not provide some sort of universal health care to all our citizens!
> Tweed kilikini - 19 Jun 2006 09:45 GMT > I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on > alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and > alt.support.breastcancer out I do lurk and post on alt.support.cancer breast and people there have been really helpful with telling me what to expect when I do eventually get treatment. It's a great group.
kili
Victor Martinez - 19 Jun 2006 12:41 GMT > I do lurk and post on alt.support.cancer breast and people there have been > really helpful with telling me what to expect when I do eventually get > treatment. It's a great group. We're sending you lots and lots of healing purrs.
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