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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / June 2006Advice, please (OT)
DH woke me this morning, to show me something. A big BLACK bunny in the driveway, near where we park our cars. Wild bunnies are *not* black! At least not in our area. He was able to walk close to it, and he stopped about 8 or so feet from it. Black Bun turned and came up to him, much in the way a kitty will come up to you and ask for skritchies! So he picked it up. This is obviously a *TAME* bunny that someone turned loose, or escaped. We put it in a box, and it is now ensconced on our enclosed back porch with some pellets (we keep them for the wild bunnies that enjoy the weeds in our yard) in the enclosed back porch, with no kitties to torment it. Do we keep this critter, take it to the shelter..... what? I've never had a rabbit, what kind of special care do they need? I know that they can get along with cats, as there is one (a red one, named Lucy) at the MC Humane Association that gets along with the cats/kittens & dogs that the other workers bring in, but can this one deal with *12* all at once (needless to say, it's by itself right now, kitties are locked out of the back porch). I don't even know how to tell if it's a boy bunny or a girl bunny. I was able to pick it up, but it tucked it's little bunny tail, so I couldn't see anything - but I did notice that there were no swollen nipples, so, we know it's not nursing a litter of bitty-baby-bunnies (whew). And I know that bunnies can be spayed/neutered (I've issued vouchers for that at MCHA before) I guess I'm off to call our TED when they open in about 1/2 an hour, to see if they have any advice, and maybe to check to make sure it hasn't any nasties that it can give to the kitties. Can you frontline a rabbit?????? Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!!  SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep http://www.petwebsite.com/rabbits/rabbit_care.htm They've got pretty much everything you need to know about the basics To sex your bunny. Put bunny on your lap with rear end facing you. Turn bunny over. Just by the anus you'll see a vent. Press the vent with your fore and middle fingers and it will pop open. If you see a slit running up and down the length and with pink lines on both sides then you have a female bunny. Practical tips based on my teenage career exhibiting rabbits 1. Give them something to gnaw on 2 To clear the coat when they are moulting, wet hands, shake off surplus water and run hands through the coat backwards and forwards, the hair sticks to the wet (If you're inclined, spitting onto your hand and rubbing your hands together produces just the right degree of dampness) 3. If you have an outdoor hutch watch for poisonous plants growing up the back of the hutch, they're sweet creatures but not too bright 4 Always have plenty of clean hay and water for bunny 5 As with cats never lift a bunny by the scruff, in fact you pick them up very much like cats 6 If you're in the UK, check whether the rabbit is wearing a ring on its back leg (either one) that would enable an owner to be traced If you have further questions email me (lmadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk) but bear in mind that I won't be about over weekends Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Magic Mood Jeep© wrote: http://www.petwebsite.com/rabbits/rabbit_care.htm They've got pretty much everything you need to know about the basics To sex your bunny. Put bunny on your lap with rear end facing you. Turn bunny over. Just by the anus you'll see a vent. Press the vent with your fore and middle fingers and it will pop open. If you see a slit running up and down the length and with pink lines on both sides then you have a female bunny. Practical tips based on my teenage career exhibiting rabbits 1. Give them something to gnaw on 2 To clear the coat when they are moulting, wet hands, shake off surplus water and run hands through the coat backwards and forwards, the hair sticks to the wet (If you're inclined, spitting onto your hand and rubbing your hands together produces just the right degree of dampness) 3. If you have an outdoor hutch watch for poisonous plants growing up the back of the hutch, they're sweet creatures but not too bright 4 Always have plenty of clean hay and water for bunny 5 As with cats never lift a bunny by the scruff, in fact you pick them up very much like cats 6 If you're in the UK, check whether the rabbit is wearing a ring on its back leg (either one) that would enable an owner to be traced If you have further questions email me (lmadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk) but bear in mind that I won't be about over weekends Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs If you have further questions email me (lmadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk) but bear in mind that I won't be about over weekends Innoculations? In my bit of the UK there's a *lot* of myxamytosis right now and if there's a vaccination to prevent it (I know nada about looking after rabbits). What's that thing about keeping their rear ends clear or maggots can develop from fly eggs? Fly-strike... that's it. If I were going to be keeping a rabbit, I'd have a lot of quick learning to do! Cheers, helen s > Do we keep this critter, take it to the shelter..... what? Sounds like someone's pet escaped. Perhaps calling your local shelter and TED to say you found a rabbit? Putting some posters around your neighborhood, without describing the rabbit, to see if his owners turn out. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > Do we keep this critter, take it to the shelter..... what? > > Sounds like someone's pet escaped. Perhaps calling your local shelter > and TED to say you found a rabbit? Putting some posters around your > neighborhood, without describing the rabbit, to see if his owners turn out. Yes, that's certainly the first thing I'd do. Joy > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! OK, you asked for advice....name him Hopper and keep him forever and ever. Just joking. We get bunnies at the shelter from time to time. I love them,but whoa they are messy. I bet your shelter can home him. We have to be careful around here because some people eat them. So cute! Can you post a picture? Sherry >> DH woke me this morning, to show me something. >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > OK, you asked for advice....name him Hopper and keep him forever and > ever. Just joking. Hehe. I was leaning more toward Black Bart (BB for short). > We get bunnies at the shelter from time to time. I love them,but whoa > they are messy. I bet your shelter can home him. We have to be careful > around here because some people eat them. They have bunnies at our local shelter, too. Sarah H, the executive director of the Humane Association, has adopted 2 of them, which she keeps in her office. A red one, named Lucy, and a grey mini-lop that was named by it's previous owner Gilligan (who turned out to be a MaryAnn :D). I've emailed Sarah H and asked her if she wanted a black bunny to name Desi, as a playmate for Lucy LOL > So cute! Can you post a picture? Will post on ABPA, and my webshots page shortly http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > Sherry >>> DH woke me this morning, to show me something. >>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Hehe. I was leaning more toward Black Bart (BB for short). What about George? And Feed Him and Hug Him and Love Him . . . ;) >> We get bunnies at the shelter from time to time. I love them,but whoa >> they are messy. I bet your shelter can home him. We have to be careful [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Purrs you find the bun's family. But yikes, are they cute. If a bun hopped up to me . . . . Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War >> OK, you asked for advice....name him Hopper and keep him forever and >> ever. Just joking. > >Hehe. I was leaning more toward Black Bart (BB for short). That may be more applicable when you see what he leaves all over your floor. heehee Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita >>> OK, you asked for advice....name him Hopper and keep him forever and >>> ever. Just joking. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jane > - owned and operated by Princess Rita I've seen! He/she also hopped into a litterbox for a bit - but since it hadn't been scooped previously, I don't know if Mr./Ms. Bun did anything! >>>> OK, you asked for advice....name him Hopper and keep him forever and >>>> ever. Just joking. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >He/she also hopped into a litterbox for a bit - but since it hadn't been >scooped previously, I don't know if Mr./Ms. Bun did anything! I love the shot of the six vari-sized kitties peering through the closed screendoor at the bunny! > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Looks like a big enough bunny that the cats might not try to kill it. >Will post on ABPA, and my webshots page shortly > >http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Oh, what a big bunny!! He's lovely. I love the shot of the kitties trying to get a look. ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! Purrs tha the rabbit is an escapee and that you're able to locate its home. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Rabbits can escape just the same as dogs and cats. So do what you would do if you found one of them. Either take it to animal control or let them know you have it. Talk to the neighbors and or put up posters. Many newspapers will give you a free "found" ad. Jo > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > > A big BLACK bunny in the driveway, near where we park our cars. > > Wild bunnies are *not* black! At least not in our area. Awwwww! Get a small carrier and some bunny nibbles and then contact the local vets and humane societies to find out if someone lost a bunny. They are sooo cute, and they can be litterbox trained. My aunt had a litterbox trained rabbit when she was a kid. And they can get to be as big as some of your cats! What will you do if you can't find the owners? It's obviously not a wild rabbit! (and don't anyone dare suggest hausenpfeffer on a spit!) Jill > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > > A big BLACK bunny in the driveway, near where we park our cars. I was out on my bike earlier today and as I was cycling along a narrow lane, car coming towards me, out from the hedgerow pops a bunny. Poor thing, eyes sealed shut with myxymatosis. Not nice: it was suffering. I couldn't bring myself to run it over with my bike and the motorist slowed right dwon as she didn't want to run it over. It would have been a swifter death if the car had hit it. Myxee is not a nice way to go for a bunny and it's rampant in wild bunnies in my area this year. helen s Here's what I did: I called our TED, they don't treat rabbits :( Emailed Sarah H at MCHA (www.monroehumane.org), which is where I volunteer. She gave me an open 20lb bag of rabbit food, that someone had dropped off at the shelter (it's over 1/2 full), a large handful of timothy hay and a couple of chew sticks. I did not have it scanned for microchip as they were super-busy at the actual shelter, and a lady DH works with says that her family will take it - this evening!!! And will take it to her vet (if she can get an appt) tomorrow morning. Original owner's loss is her family's gain! I did buy some supplies for her (since DH says that her & her family are "not that well off", and *he approved* of the purchases): a med/small dog crate for a cage (she said this will be an *inside* bunny), some Yesterdays News litter (bunnies *can* be litterbox trained, but you aren't supposed to use clay based litter - even clumping!) a small litterbox that will fit inside the crate, food dish, water bottle (like an oversized hamster or mouse water bottle :) ), a book about house rabbits and some treats. I also printed out a bunch of FAQs regarding rabbit care from the House Rabbit Society's web site (probably much of the same info as in the book I bought, since the book was recommended by the web site), including about 8 pages regarding litter training them! And I've let the kitties back with the bunny, since they were sooooooo curious. Betty was the first one, and she was more wary of the bunny than the bunny was of her! It was kind of cute - the bunny was almost chasing her! Right now I have a pet gate across the doorway to the back porch to keep bunny back there (I don't wanna find bunny-BB's in the living room - bad enough there's a scattering of them around the back porch), but the kitties have access to all areas of the house. But in 15 minutes, off we go to meet DH and new bunny-owner at DH's work. > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > frontline a rabbit?????? > Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! Let us know how it goes. > Here's what I did: > [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > frontline a rabbit?????? > > Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! > Here's what I did: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > But in 15 minutes, off we go to meet DH and new bunny-owner at DH's work. Yay! Sounds like a good ending. Good on you. Sherry > Here's what I did: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > bunny), some Yesterdays News litter (bunnies *can* be litterbox > trained My Aunt Win had a housebroken litterbox trained rabbit when she was younger. She's now 85 years old and still remembers it fondly. but you aren't supposed to use clay based litter - even > clumping!) a small litterbox that will fit inside the crate, food > dish, water bottle (like an oversized hamster or mouse water bottle [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >> frontline a rabbit?????? >> Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! Took Mr./Ms. Bun to Dh's work, and met his new "mom" - she was fawning over him. We were outdoors, so she didn't take him out of the carrier (lest he get loose-again), but she cooed at him/her, and opened the carrier and gave him/her skritchies. Bun looks to have a good home, with children to play with. They have no other pets, except a kitten that appeared at the house about a month ago. Already know that Bun is good with kitties (could care less about them, as a matter of fact), and since their's is still young, it will learn that bunnies are no harm. DH is on a business trip today & tomorrow, and won't be able to get updates from Bun's new "mom" as of yet, but he did call me from the road and state that he had a few minutes before they left the office this morning, and ran into Bun's 'grandma', and she said that kids LOVED the bunny, and it's adjusting well to new digs! Yay for Mr./Ms. Bun!!!! > Here's what I did: > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >> frontline a rabbit?????? >> Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! > Took Mr./Ms. Bun to Dh's work, and met his new "mom" - she was > fawning over him. We were outdoors, so she didn't take him out of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Yay for Mr./Ms. Bun!!!! It's great to hear a happy ending. Thanks for the update. :-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >Took Mr./Ms. Bun to Dh's work, and met his new "mom" - she was fawning over >him. We were outdoors, so she didn't take him out of the carrier (lest he [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Yay for Mr./Ms. Bun!!!! Yay Yay! Looks like a happy ending for Mr/Ms. Bun! I thought of you the other night as I was watching (again) "Wallace and Gromit and the Curse of the Were Rabbit, " especially when Lady Tottington turns her home into a "sanctuary for all thing fluffy." ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War Hi there, I just saw this post! I've had rabbits for many years and also belonged to a rabbit rescue. Normally, children are not the best matches for a rabbit, especially young children, but there are exceptions. If the rabbit is a FAMILY pet and not "I'm getting this for the kids," with the adults supervising. The children have to be taught that this animal is not like a dog they can rough-house with and throw over their shoulder, but a more fragile rabbit. Prey animals tend to be more frightened and take more time to get to know. I hope it works out for this family. You might have them look at www.rabbit.org, the House Rabbit Society. There are many great rabbit tips there. Some things to pass on -- rabbits need grass hay (like timothy or orchard grass) free-fed. They have a tricky digestive system that was made for constant grazing. Their food pellets should be the kind without the extra treats/junk in them (nuts, those colored doughnuts, etc.) Purina makes a great pellet and there are some good ones at www.oxboyhay.com. Normally you feed about 1/4 cup of pellets per day per 5 lbs of body weight. Rabbits also need veggies, we give ours a big bowl every evening (the HRS website has rabbit veggie lists.) There should have very few carrots, which are sugary, and even less fruit. Fruit is a treat only, about 1 tablespoon per day. Rabbits have an enormous sweet tooth. Any diet changes should be made gradually. As for litter box training, it can be done but only if the rabbit is spayed or neutered. If not, the rabbit (either sex) will spray like crazy. Rabbits are hopping hormones. There are lists of recommended rabbit vets for each state on the HRS site. Good rabbit vets are worth an extra drive, if needed. Also, most female rabbits develop uterine cancer by about age 4 if not spayed. As for cages, you have to watch what they walk on. Usually the wire bottoms are too hard on their feet and can cause sores. We use a puppy pen, one of those fence-like enclosures you can get from places like Petsmart. They have to be at least 4 feet tall though because those rabbits can jump! Good luck to the new rabbit family. I hope it all works out. Rhonda > Took Mr./Ms. Bun to Dh's work, and met his new "mom" - she was fawning over > him. We were outdoors, so she didn't take him out of the carrier (lest he [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >>>email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com >>>http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > Hi there, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > You might have them look at www.rabbit.org, the House Rabbit Society. > There are many great rabbit tips there. I don't know if they have internet or not, so I printed out all their FAQ's for them. > Some things to pass on -- rabbits need grass hay (like timothy or > orchard grass) free-fed. They have a tricky digestive system that was [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > is a treat only, about 1 tablespoon per day. Rabbits have an enormous > sweet tooth. I was given about 1/2 a 20lb bag of Purina rabbit pellets, and I also bought some timothy hay for them. That bag of food will probably last them close to a year. All the literature I read was "fresh veggies in moderation, only!" > Any diet changes should be made gradually. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > an extra drive, if needed. Also, most female rabbits develop uterine > cancer by about age 4 if not spayed. One of the FAQs I printed was about 8 pages in regards to litter training. > As for cages, you have to watch what they walk on. Usually the wire > bottoms are too hard on their feet and can cause sores. We use a puppy > pen, one of those fence-like enclosures you can get from places like > Petsmart. They have to be at least 4 feet tall though because those > rabbits can jump! Cage I bought is actually a 24x20 dog crate, with the plastic slide out 'tray'. No wire for Bun to have to stand on. It has 3 doors, on on a long side, one on an end, and one on top. > Good luck to the new rabbit family. I hope it all works out. > [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] >>>> email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com >>>> http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep So glad to hear of a happy homing for the bunny! Christine > Took Mr./Ms. Bun to Dh's work, and met his new "mom" - she was fawning over > him. We were outdoors, so she didn't take him out of the carrier (lest he [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > >> frontline a rabbit?????? > >> Just what we need - another critter to shed all over the house!!!!! > DH woke me this morning, to show me something. > > A big BLACK bunny in the driveway, near where we park our cars. I have a friend with a bunny and two kitties who live together in harmony. I would not try it in my home though. Smokey can take out a jackrabbit (I saw it), let alone a house bunny, and whether or not he's full of canned cat food, I wouldn't trust him not to try to make a snack of a bunny. I'm glad this bunny has found a good home. --Fil |
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