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badwilson - 12 Jun 2006 02:57 GMT
The nights are getting colder and colder and Vino is getting cuddlier
and cuddlier.
Now that Dennis is gone, Vino has continued the tradition and is
sleeping on my chest when I'm lying on the couch watching TV.  Last
night was the cutest though.  He crawled up under the blanket I had over
me and lay next to me, with just his head sticking out.  He slept with
his paws covering his eyes.  After an hour, I had to pee so extremely
bad that my whole back was cramping up and my kidneys were starting to
hurt.  Eventually I couldn't take it anymore and had to get up.  Poor
Vino lost his spot.
Then, later on in bed, he slept on top of the covers, but he finds a
good fluffy part where he really sinks in, like a nest.  This is always
on the side of me which is closest to the bathroom door.  So, to get out
of bed, I have to shuffle all the way to the other side of our king size
bed and walk around the bed to the bathroom.  Sigh, the thinks we do for
our cats!
Just this morning alone, I've gotten up at least a dozen times to let
him in and out.  He hates it when the door is closed and he can't come
and go whenever he wants.  I swear he's trying to train me to leave the
door open a crack.  Not happening as the wind blows in and right at me
while I'm at the computer!
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Victor Martinez - 12 Jun 2006 03:18 GMT
> Just this morning alone, I've gotten up at least a dozen times to let
> him in and out.  He hates it when the door is closed and he can't come
> and go whenever he wants.  I swear he's trying to train me to leave the
> door open a crack.  Not happening as the wind blows in and right at me
> while I'm at the computer!

Maybe it's time to invest in a cat door? :)

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badwilson - 12 Jun 2006 05:23 GMT
>> Just this morning alone, I've gotten up at least a dozen times to let
>> him in and out.  He hates it when the door is closed and he can't
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>
> Maybe it's time to invest in a cat door? :)

Can't put a cat door in a french door in a rental house.
I have never rented a house before, only apartments, so I don't know if
this is normal outside of Australia, but tomorrow someone is coming to
inspect the house.  They are checking for damage and to make sure the
oven is clean and the garden is weeded.  Yikes!  Have been cleaning all
day.
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sriddles@aol.com - 12 Jun 2006 06:08 GMT
> >> Just this morning alone, I've gotten up at least a dozen times to let
> >> him in and out.  He hates it when the door is closed and he can't
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> --
> Britta

Britta, send the Oven Police to my house. It might give me motivation
to clean the #$%# thing.
Sherry  <--- Oooo. On second thought, thinking Britta better *not* send
them
jmcquown - 12 Jun 2006 14:07 GMT
>>>> Just this morning alone, I've gotten up at least a dozen times to
>>>> let him in and out.  He hates it when the door is closed and he
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> Sherry  <--- Oooo. On second thought, thinking Britta better *not*
> send them

I hear ya.  As much as I love to cook, cleanup is a major PITA.  You don't
want to see my kitchen, trust me :)  Good thing I don't entertain.

Jill
Tish Silberbauer - 12 Jun 2006 06:10 GMT
>Can't put a cat door in a french door in a rental house.
>I have never rented a house before, only apartments, so I don't know if
>this is normal outside of Australia, but tomorrow someone is coming to
>inspect the house.  They are checking for damage and to make sure the
>oven is clean and the garden is weeded.  Yikes!  Have been cleaning all
>day.

Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice houses
(they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had someone inspect
every 6 months when we lived in Wollongong (it's amazing how quickly 6
months can go by!).  Interestingly, they disapproved of almost all the
improvements we made to the garden, so after a year or so we gave up
and learned to tolerate the vast expanse of lawn (which had to be mown
*every week* in summer because it grew so damn fast - the reason we
wanted to get rid of as much as possible of the danged suff!).

We found that the folks they sent from the rental agency / real estate
office weren't keen on doing a thorough inspection - they had a list
of places to inspect and were keen to be in and out of there ASAP.  A
quick walk-through was usually all they did, especially if things were
neat and clean and we were polite.

We had told the agency that Ted was an outdoors-only cat (she was
indoor/outdoor, with an emphasis on indoors), so we'd have to quickly
shuffle her to the back yard when the inspectors were there (all of 5
minutes, usually).

Tish
Enfilade - 12 Jun 2006 20:42 GMT
> Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice houses
> (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had someone inspect
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> *every week* in summer because it grew so damn fast - the reason we
> wanted to get rid of as much as possible of the danged suff!).

Why the hell would anyone care if the garden were weeded?!

We have building inspectors here who want to see if the fire alarms
work, if there's vermin and if the building is structurally sound (for
the safety of those living here)

That almost sounds more like those homeowners' associations I hear
about in the US, who police neighbourhoods because the Jones' washline
is driving property values down and the Smyth's fence is too tall.
Ridiculous.  Unless you're a threat to safety or the ability of your
neighbours to enjoy THEIR properties, what you do on your own is your
OWN business and imho, no one else's.

If I had room for a washline, you can bet I'd put one up instead of
spending $1.25 for each load in the dryer.

--Fil
CatNipped - 12 Jun 2006 20:51 GMT
>> Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice houses
>> (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had someone inspect
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> neighbours to enjoy THEIR properties, what you do on your own is your
> OWN business and imho, no one else's.

Having been the victim of the Home Owners' Assocation nazis, I tend to
agree.  But to play devil's advocate, here in the US we seem to have a
choice HOAs or zoning laws.  In Louisiana we had zoning laws - you had to
have a permit from the parish before you could build anything (to keep porn
shops from opening up next to elementary schools), here in Texas we don't
have any zoning laws so home owners had to create some way to keep things
like this from happening.  As in any area, however, power seems to go to
people's heads and then they start dictating stupid little things just
because they can.

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> If I had room for a washline, you can bet I'd put one up instead of
> spending $1.25 for each load in the dryer.
>
> --Fil
sriddles@aol.com - 12 Jun 2006 21:27 GMT
> > Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice houses
> > (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had someone inspect
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> --Fil

It does sound like homeowners' associations here also. A city can have
both zoning laws *and* homeowners' associations and both are applicable
to the homeowner. HA's aren't created because of a lack of zoning
ordinances. I suppose if I bought an expensive home and the next-door
neighbor trashed up his yard I wouldn't like it. Still, though, I don't
like the idea of an association telling me how to build a fence, or any
other little thing.
Fil, DH just put up a washline for me for the first time. I *love* it.
I love the way the clothes smell. I enjoy being out in the early
morning sun to hang them. Don't know why we didn't do this years ago.

Sherry
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jun 2006 21:50 GMT
> That almost sounds more like those homeowners' associations I hear
> about in the US, who police neighbourhoods because the Jones'
> washline is driving property values down and the Smyth's fence is
> too tall.  Ridiculous.  Unless you're a threat to safety or the
> ability of your neighbours to enjoy THEIR properties, what you do on
> your own is your OWN business and imho, no one else's.

Right, but if you buy a house in a neighborhood with an HOA, it's not
like you don't know about it.  Signing the agreement is a condition of
buying the house.  You could always choose to buy a different house in
a different neighborhood.  It's not like anyone held a gun to your
head.  In our HOA, rules are discussed on some regular interval, and
you can certainly get them changed.  At least, in theory.  I am mostly
ignorant of the whole deal.

We did look at some houses without HOAs, but we didn't like them as
well.  So we chose to deal.

As near as I can tell, HOAs primarily exist because people hate
confrontation.  No one wants to go up to their next door neighbor and
talk to them about their noisy dogs (see Pat's post from a few weeks
ago).  An HOA lets you deal with that kind of stuff, but in the "I'm
so sorry, personally I don't care but the HOA regs do say that ..."
kind of way.

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sriddles@aol.com - 12 Jun 2006 22:24 GMT
> > That almost sounds more like those homeowners' associations I hear
> > about in the US, who police neighbourhoods because the Jones'
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> --
> monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

Here, the HA's deal mainly with asthetic (sp?) things that aren't
specifically covered by city ordinance already. One really exclusive
neighborhood here forbids anyone who owns a light truck to park it in
the drive. It must be garaged at all times. That's kind of dumb,
considering some trucks cost as much as a luxury car and are quite
nice-looking. My daughter was required to attend a HA meeting and ask
permission to keep four cats indoors. (The limit is 3). There was no
problem with it, but living the way I have my whole life, it seemed
really odd. OTOH, her neighbor built this really bizarre contraption
desiged to hide the trash can so he wouldn't have to push it back from
the curb every week. It was hideous but more importantly blocked her
view backing out of her driveway. She never complained about it, but
the HA made him remove it. I guess that was a good thing.

Sherry

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Jun 2006 22:44 GMT
> Here, the HA's deal mainly with asthetic (sp?) things that aren't
> specifically covered by city ordinance already. One really exclusive
> neighborhood here forbids anyone who owns a light truck to park it in
> the drive. It must be garaged at all times. That's kind of dumb...

I find that outright offensive. God forbid anyone give even the
slightest appearance of doing manual labor for a living. I guess it's
the "slippery slope" argument: today, a brand-new $40,000 truck,
tomorrow, a rusted-out junker on cement blocks. :)

> OTOH, her neighbor built this really bizarre contraption
> desiged to hide the trash can so he wouldn't have to push it back from
> the curb every week. It was hideous but more importantly blocked her
> view backing out of her driveway. She never complained about it, but
> the HA made him remove it. I guess that was a good thing.

LOL, and I suppose he initially built it in order to comply with a
rule that the trash cans can't be visible except on trash-collection
day?

Joyce
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Jun 2006 22:36 GMT
> As near as I can tell, HOAs primarily exist because people hate
> confrontation.  No one wants to go up to their next door neighbor and
> talk to them about their noisy dogs (see Pat's post from a few weeks
> ago).  An HOA lets you deal with that kind of stuff, but in the "I'm
> so sorry, personally I don't care but the HOA regs do say that ..."
> kind of way.

Noisy dogs, OK. But some of the things I hear about are just absurd,
like what kind of flowers you can plant and whether you can park your
car on the street in front of your own house.

I think those rules also exist to protect people's sense of "we're not
going to let the riffraff bring our property values down" as much as
to prevent potential conflict.

Some of these rules make no sense at all to me. Where my sister lives,
she was not allowed to choose a certain color for her house, not because
it wasn't an approved color, but because there was another house painted
the same color too close to hers. WTF?

It's true, nobody forces anyone to buy into such a home, but the kind
of people who want to dictate to each other to such a level give me
the creeps.

Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jun 2006 22:43 GMT
> Noisy dogs, OK. But some of the things I hear about are just absurd,
> like what kind of flowers you can plant and whether you can park
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> kind of people who want to dictate to each other to such a level
> give me the creeps.

Well, again, typically the members of the HOA (ie, the homeowners) can
change the rules if they want to.  So to some extent, if there's a
ridiculous rule in place in your HOA, it's your own fault that you
didn't prevent it or have it changed.

That being said, obviously it takes effort to make that happen.  I'm
not a huge fan of HOAs; I just think that often we overstate their
power and frame it as "us vs. them."  The HOA *is* us.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Jun 2006 22:51 GMT
> Well, again, typically the members of the HOA (ie, the homeowners) can
> change the rules if they want to.  So to some extent, if there's a
> ridiculous rule in place in your HOA, it's your own fault that you
> didn't prevent it or have it changed.

But doesn't each person have limited influence? What if the majority
votes against you, no matter how hard you try to change it? Is it
your fault if you don't succeed in changing everyone else's minds?
I mean, you can present your arguments as best you can, but you can't
force anyone to do what you want.

Joyce
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jun 2006 23:02 GMT
> > Well, again, typically the members of the HOA (ie, the homeowners)
> > can change the rules if they want to.  So to some extent, if
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I mean, you can present your arguments as best you can, but you
> can't force anyone to do what you want.

Well, true.  Therefore "to some extent" ...

That being said, here's how I've been told it works in our HOA:
Typically not all that many people show up to a meeting.  If you
really want to push something through, you can talk to your neighbors
and get enough of them to agree to either show up or, preferably, give
you their permission to vote for them by proxy.  Most people simply
don't care enough about most of the issues to actively work against a
change.

If the majority votes against you, well, isn't that democracy in
action?

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Victor Martinez - 13 Jun 2006 12:36 GMT
> That being said, obviously it takes effort to make that happen.  I'm
> not a huge fan of HOAs; I just think that often we overstate their
> power and frame it as "us vs. them."  The HOA *is* us.

There's always those HOAs busy-bodies whose whole life's purpose seems
to be harrasing their neighbors for stupid things like their lawn is 0.1
inches longer than allowed or there is a sign on it.
We would never live in a place that had HOAs, I think the negatives
outweigh the positives.

Cheers.

Victor

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Monique Y. Mudama - 13 Jun 2006 14:39 GMT
>> That being said, obviously it takes effort to make that happen.
>> I'm not a huge fan of HOAs; I just think that often we overstate
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> would never live in a place that had HOAs, I think the negatives
> outweigh the positives.

Sometimes, certainly.  Often, maybe.  Not always ... the only note
we've gotten so far is because we let the weeds in the rock bed
on the far side of the sidewalk get three feet tall.  It looked awful.
Can't really argue with that one.

Frankly, I did look for a place that didn't have HOAs, but the only
ones we could find were older than we'd care to be saddled with as a
first house, or far too expensive for us.  The commonality, I think,
is that they all had large lot sizes, so neighborly hijinx are less
visible.

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Adrian A - 13 Jun 2006 14:54 GMT
>>> That being said, obviously it takes effort to make that happen.
>>> I'm not a huge fan of HOAs; I just think that often we overstate
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> is that they all had large lot sizes, so neighborly hijinx are less
> visible.

I like older houses, there are several near me that are well over 300 years
old.
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Jo Firey - 12 Jun 2006 23:27 GMT
>> Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice houses
>> (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had someone inspect
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> If I had room for a washline, you can bet I'd put one up instead of
> spending $1.25 for each load in the dryer.

In theory I agree with you.  In practice I wish we could get rid of the
neighbors across the street.  They are just plain sloppy and the mess tends
to spill over into view.

We were relieved when the property owners gave up and hired a yard service
so it at least isn't totally overgrown.  And I'm grateful for the six foot
fence that pretty well hides the back (junk)yard.

Jo
Enfilade - 13 Jun 2006 01:44 GMT
> In theory I agree with you.  In practice I wish we could get rid of the
> neighbors across the street.  They are just plain sloppy and the mess tends
> to spill over into view.

I can see that.  I just...don't care, myself.  As long as their stuff
isn't flowing onto my property, and they aren't otherwise annoying me,
I couldn't give a rat's arse what they do to theirs.  In fact, I would
rather have neighbours that paint their house pink with green polka
dots and have a permanent yard sale on their front lawn than deal with
neighbours like the idiots who played their music so loud in the middle
of the night.

My dad hates the way his neighbour down the county line is always
leaving implements out in the rain and has cars up on blocks and stuff
all over his yard and part of his field (and of course his implements
look like crap since they are out in the snow and rain) but he'd never
dream of SAYING anything about it.  His neighbour doesn't say anything
about the way my dad puts all his stuff in the driving shed every
night...so my dad doesn't say anything about having a farm near the
place that looks like a cross between a used implement dealership and a
dump.

Of course, I am somewhat eccentric so I'm certain I could freak
out/piss off a HOA despite my best efforts not to.  And I'm used to
living in the sticks where no one cares.

--Fil
badwilson - 13 Jun 2006 02:56 GMT
>> Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice houses
>> (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had someone inspect
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> --Fil

Yes, this weed thing really got to me too.  First of all, I know nothing
about gardens and plants and can't tell what a weed is and what isn't.
If it's green, it's a plant and I like it.  Who cares if I let the
garden get overgrown?  As long as we have it all nice and looking good
by the time we move out, it really shouldn't matter.
Well, they will be here between 9 am and 2 pm.  I'm sitting here
waiting...
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Adrian A - 13 Jun 2006 10:26 GMT
>>> Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice
>>> houses (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had
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> Well, they will be here between 9 am and 2 pm.  I'm sitting here
> waiting...

My garden isn't the tidiest around and that's deliberate, messy gardens are
a lot better for wildlife, what is a weed to some people is food or shelter
to some insect or animal. This time of year especially birds need insects
and their lava to feed their young.
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sriddles@aol.com - 13 Jun 2006 15:16 GMT
> >>> Unfortunately, quite common in Australia - especially for nice
> >>> houses (they don't bother to inspect scummy houses).  We had
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I'd want to be your neighbor! We have patches of milkweed all over that
we don't mow because monarchs lay their eggs on them. I'm sure a
neighborhood association wouldn't like us.

Sherry
Marina - 13 Jun 2006 04:00 GMT
> Why the hell would anyone care if the garden were weeded?!

Ooh, I'm very lucky that my landlord doesn't care whether my garden is
weeded. I was just sitting outside enjoying the morning air and watching
the cats in the enclosure, and the dandelions sprouting all over the
garden, and all the other weeds that I don't know what they are but I
think they lend the garden a nice lush look. :oP

I've heard of landlords and -ladies inspecting their properties every
now and then, but in twenty years of renting, I've never had anyone do
regular check-ups. The law here says the owner can't just show up and
demand admittance, they have to inform you beforehand.

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Jun 2006 05:33 GMT
> > Why the hell would anyone care if the garden were weeded?!
> >
> Ooh, I'm very lucky that my landlord doesn't care whether my garden is
> weeded.

I wonder if this is common outside the US? As far as I know, it's not
normally a condition for rental in the US, and I've been a renter for a
long time. Sometimes yard care is part of the deal, and the tenant gets
something off the rent in exchange. But I don't know of anyone who's had
to pass an inspection on a regular basis, particularly for the condition
of the outside.

My landlord is pretty laissez-faire when it comes to how I keep my
apartment. He hardly ever comes over here. On the other hand, he also
hardly ever fixes anything, unless it's required by law (such as a
non-functioning toilet - plumbing is an ongoing problem in this house).
Still, on balance, I'd rather have a landlord who doesn't fix stuff
and who leaves me alone than someone who puts a lot of energy into
keeping up the property and is always checking up on me.

Joyce
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 12 Jun 2006 10:14 GMT
> Then, later on in bed, he slept on top of the covers, but he finds a
> good fluffy part where he really sinks in, like a nest.  This is always
> on the side of me which is closest to the bathroom door.  So, to get out
> of bed, I have to shuffle all the way to the other side of our king size
> bed and walk around the bed to the bathroom.  Sigh, the thinks we do for
> our cats!

I do this every night and every morning. Smudge is usually the
culprit, as she sleeps next to me while the other two are usually
further down toward the end of the bed. She'll sleep on the outside
of the bed (I have mine against the wall), so I have to go through
an elaborate process to get out of bed without Disturbing The Cat.
It usually happens once in the middle of the night, and again when
I get up.

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 12 Jun 2006 16:28 GMT
>The nights are getting colder and colder and Vino is getting cuddlier
>and cuddlier.
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>hurt.  Eventually I couldn't take it anymore and had to get up.  Poor
>Vino lost his spot.

Awww, I'm a sucker like that, I can't bear to move Stinky when he's
comfy.

>Then, later on in bed, he slept on top of the covers, but he finds a
>good fluffy part where he really sinks in, like a nest.  This is always
>on the side of me which is closest to the bathroom door.  So, to get out
>of bed, I have to shuffle all the way to the other side of our king size
>bed and walk around the bed to the bathroom.  Sigh, the thinks we do for
>our cats!

But he's such a cutie!  You're a good slave. ;)

Theresa
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Wayne Mitchell - 12 Jun 2006 18:01 GMT
>I can't bear to move Stinky when he's
>comfy.

When I came up to replace the sheets on my bed this morning,
Will was extremely comfortable and unusually tight asleep right
in the middle of the bed.  I pulled out corners and bunched
things toward the middle for a while, thinking he would wake up
and participate in his usual fashion, but he was still zonked
when I got ready to pull off the blanket and carry away the
sheets.

I hated to disturb him, but I had to get the job done, so I
gently rolled him off onto the mattress pad.  About that time he
began to be aware that interesting things were going on around
him, but it actually took two more times of rolling him onto the
fresh sheets before he was awake enough to deal with the
fresh-sheet greeblings.

Now I have to wonder what he got up to last night.
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