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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2006My kitten is very sick!!
I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a normal size, the same as the rest, and just recently it has gotten smaller than the rest, is normally fat at the stomache but has very skinny legs and backbones, and has had a uncontrolable stool. One eye has got an infection and has started having troubles standing with its front legs just tonight. It is an outside kitten and we bring it in away from the other kittens to eat soft canned food. When it gets the chance and can catch the mother cat, it will also eat from her. He has no troubles eating but is VERY sick. IF YOU HAVE ANY HELP OR ADVISE, PLEASE UPDATE ME. I don't know how long the kitten is going to live for if he doesn't get help soon. Any response is greatly appriciated!! Alyssa > IF YOU HAVE ANY HELP OR ADVISE, PLEASE UPDATE ME. Vet. Now- kittens can deteriorate very quickly Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >> IF YOU HAVE ANY HELP OR ADVISE, PLEASE UPDATE ME. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Well, thank you for your advise, but the kitten passed away this morning. It was very upsetting The poor little one! At least he went to the Bridge knowing that someone tried to help. He'll be a baby angel's companion in the heavens, and will remember you when you meet again. Blessed be, Baha >>> IF YOU HAVE ANY HELP OR ADVISE, PLEASE UPDATE ME. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Well, thank you for your advise, but the kitten passed away this morning. It >was very upsetting > IF YOU HAVE ANY HELP OR ADVISE, PLEASE UPDATE ME. I don't know how long > the kitten is going to live for if he doesn't get help soon. Any response is > greatly appriciated!! That kitten must see a vet immediately. You may have to feed him/her yourself with a bottle if the mother is untameable and if s/he requires regular medication or a stay at the vet. If S/he is away from the mother, the mother may abandon him/her and that means YOU are the new mother. --Fil I hope your kitten has been to the vet by now- loving healing vibes on the way from here. barbara >I hope your kitten has been to the vet by now- loving healing vibes on >the way from here. >barbara Thank you for your concern. He needed to see a vet, but we just couldn't afford it if they weren't going to do anything for it. He was left outside the other night and it rained and he was barely alive when my mom found him, so we dried him off and kept him warm with a hair dryer and let him sleep on a heating pad. So we think that he had too much fluid in his lungs and just this morning, at about 5:00, we found him outside on the ground close to death again. So we repeated what we had done the first time and he began to have more of a reaction. We left him to sleep on the heating pad and my mom and i went back to bed. When we woke up we found him and he had quit breathing. He was a fighter against it, but i think that he was just to sick. Ah, so sorry to hear the little one passed away. We will light a candle so he can fine his way to the Rainbow Bridge where he will be happy and healthy. Lily & her mama  SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time >>I hope your kitten has been to the vet by now- loving healing vibes on >>the way from here. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > breathing. He was a fighter against it, but i think that he was just to > sick. >Ah, so sorry to hear the little one passed away. We will light a candle so >he can fine his way to the Rainbow Bridge where he will be happy and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> breathing. He was a fighter against it, but i think that he was just to >> sick. Thank you for your concern, my whole family was very upset. But its grandmother passed away three years ago labor day, so now he can see her and tell her that we all miss her too. I'm actually kinda glad he passed, because now hes not suffering(if he was). ahh, Alyssa, that is sad. I'm sorry. B >> IF YOU HAVE ANY HELP OR ADVISE, PLEASE UPDATE ME. I don't know how long >> the kitten is going to live for if he doesn't get help soon. Any response is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >--Fil We didn't really have the money to bring the kitten in and we already knew that they wouldn't have done anything for him. He was old enough that the kitten was eating canned food and STIL drinking from the mother. Thank you for your advise, but I wish I could have done something sooner. My kitten passed away this morning. > I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the > last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a normal size, the same as the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Alyssa When I first read this is thought "troll". No one could be so insensitive as to leave a four week old kitten outside to more or less fend for itself. Suggestion> Either get on your computer or go to the library and read up on cat care. If you are a child, please remember to read and learn as much as you can about baby animals before you try to raise any. MLB I got the impression from reading her first post that it was a feral kitten, that they were just trying to look after, possibly it was the "runt" of the litter which is why the mother didn't look after it properly, I've seen this happen before, very sad. Marcia > > I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the > > last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a normal size, the same as the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > read and learn as much as you can about baby animals before you try to > raise any. MLB >> I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the >> last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a normal size, the same as the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >read and learn as much as you can about baby animals before you try to >raise any. MLB All of our cats just happen to be strays that have either been abandoned when they where little or have just wondered into our yard so we take them in. We breed dogs, so we can't have any diseases or illnesses spread in them, so we HAVE to keep all of our cats outside in order to keep the dogs healthy. And I am not a 5-year old, I just happen to be 14 and am very into my kittens so i am not a child. The kitten has been sick for a while and was probably passed down from the mother cat. Don't tell me i'm a troll because i obviously cared about it, or i wouldn't have gotten on the computer for help. And for your information, i have read about pet care and my mom is a nurse and we have had numerous cases of sick cats and they have all came out fine so don't tell me to learn about baby animals before i raise them because we DO raise them. >>> I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many >>> problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > because we > DO raise them. A couple of questions: If you breed dogs, can you afford veterinary care for them? Of so, why nor for the kitten? This opens a whole other can of worms, but I won't get into *that*... <cough> puppy mill <cough> >>>> I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many >>>> problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > <cough> puppy mill <cough> Did I just read that right you breed dogs but yet could not afford to take the cat to the vet. Yet you can afford to take care of the dogs but not your cats which you keep outside to prevent disease or illness being spread to the dogs. WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSH@T. Hint there would be no disease if the cats were outside and properly vaccinated and taken care off. I bet if a puppy was sick you would have found the money for it somewhere some how. Damn People can be so F@cked up. Sometimes wished the law could actually do upon the criminal what they did upon victims I still smell troll > >>>> I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many > >>>> problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Damn People can be so F@cked up. Sometimes wished the law could actually do > upon the criminal what they did upon victims >I still smell troll > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Damn People can be so F@cked up. Sometimes wished the law could actually do >> upon the criminal what they did upon victims I am SOOO glad that you actually READ my concern about the kitten. I asked for advise, not some lame excuse to call a 14 year old a troll, especially since your probably a grown person. That just isn't right. Now i thought this web site was for helping kittens, not bringing down other peoples questions and insulting them. >>I still smell troll >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > this web site was for helping kittens, not bringing down other peoples > questions and insulting them. You have said that this four week old kitten has been very ill for weeks, but was being left outside to protect your dogs and did not have access to medical care. In all fairness, how on earth do you (or did you) expect a bunch of people you do not know and who do not know you to help in a situation like this? It was already too late. Sorry but in the real world concern just plain isn't enough. Your concern for the kitten could not and did not save it. We could not help to save it. Keeping it indoors and providing it with shelter and food likely would have helped it. You weren't even managing to do that. Its called real solutions for real problems. Jo Below, Alyssa8 says that she is 14 years old. So, she is very young and I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt here. She should get credit for noticing and caring, even when she does not have the personal finances (what 14 year old *does*) to do something about it herself. It's been a horrible week for nasty posts and being reactive (I have also contributed, in another forum), but please don't let it become a habit. I would imagine that she feels very sad at the death of the kitten and helpless to do anything about it. Maybe folks in the USA can give her some pointers as to where she can go for help. On the other hand, if she's not in the USA, maybe she can give us a vague idea of where she is (geographically) and others of us can give her pointers. Cheers (and I mean it!), Tish >>>I still smell troll >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Jo >Below, Alyssa8 says that she is 14 years old. So, she is very young >and I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt here. She [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Cheers (and I mean it!), >Tish Finely another person who has been nice throughout this all. I am sry for all the ripping out, but i have had a rough week, not only with my kitten passing away, but also with a very close friend(my moms boss) passing away and my mom catching ammonia. Right now i am VERY stressed out and haven't slept for three days and have hardly ate anything. Right now the whole name calling thing is getting out of control and i am very sick of it. I give up, this whole thing is stupid and almost everyone in this whole deal has barely even mentioned any advise about the kitten from the beginning. Now that its to late, everyonehas just focused on name calling. Just end it, its getting old fast and i dont need to stress out about this anymore. See if i use one of these advise things again, the people can be disrespectful. I just wanted to thank the people who where ACTUALLY nice enough to give me advise and information. I did greatly appriciate it, even if it was to late i can take it into later consideration in the case of another mishab. And thank you for some of your concerns and lighting the candle for the kitten, it was very thoughful. And as for the people who caused troubles along this, i am not impressed what so ever on your behavior like a two-year-old. No one ever got a badge for their stupidity or their heartlessness and i hope you decide to change your ways, otherwise you are going to bring more people down and cause them the troubles of having to put up with you. GOD BLESS TO YOU ALL, alyssa >>>>I still smell troll >>>> >[quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >>Jo >>Below, Alyssa8 says that she is 14 years old. So, she is very young >>and I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt here. She [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> >>>Jo Alyssa: First, let me apologise for my fellow posters' lack of diplomacy. It is beyond foolishness, in either a practical or a moral sense, to add insult to injury as they have. Please forgive us all. That said, they had a certain point, although they expressed it poorly. That point is that you may lack the resources to care for the cats in your life, even though you obviously care very much for them. Speaking as a moron with a Mensa card, I can understand that someone at your age would be capable of making decisions reasonably and with heart. Thus, I must ask: in a world where an outdoor cat, on average, lives three years to an indoor cat's 20, does it truly make sense to care for your kitties from a distance? BTW, not to bring up a dead subject, but the sense that I got from reading the "troll" post was that its author thought that you were a troll AT FIRST, but then learned better as time went on. I do not believe that he or she (the name M. L. Briggs does not suggest a gender) intended to impugn you as such, as I similarly do not. Best wishes, and I hope that you come to have many an anecdote to pass on from new "owners." :) :) :) Jeff On Fri 26 May 2006 09:58:48p, Jeff Mullen wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:5d7e1$4477b266$49d7769$7765 @ALLTEL.NET): > First, let me apologise for my fellow posters' lack of diplomacy. > It is beyond foolishness, in either a practical or a moral sense, > to add insult to injury as they have. Please forgive us all. Oh, and you who I've never seen before and probably most here would say the same, are speaking for us all? > That said, they had a certain point, although they expressed it > poorly. That point is that you may lack the resources to care [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > does not suggest a gender) intended to impugn you as such, as > I similarly do not. I would. Simply for the reason that Pam pointed out - if the catkb site gives the choice to post in many of the cat groups (and it does), why post in one that clearly says "anecdotes" rather than "health and behavior"? No brainer to me. They're new, they don't know the dynamics of the groups, they clearly haven't even lurked. I smell a troll too. > Best wishes, and I hope that you come to have many an anecdote > to pass on from new "owners." :) :) :) SignatureCheryl > On Fri 26 May 2006 09:58:48p, Jeff Mullen wrote in > rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:5d7e1$4477b266$49d7769$7765 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oh, and you who I've never seen before and probably most here would > say the same, are speaking for us all? Somebody needs to speak up for reason and manners in this thread-- you certainly aren't. >>That said, they had a certain point, although they expressed it >>poorly. That point is that you may lack the resources to care [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > know the dynamics of the groups, they clearly haven't even lurked. > I smell a troll too. That is your prerogative, and you're entitled to your opinion, even if I do not share it. It changes nothing, however, and you certainly could be more polite in the way that you have put this. My opinion is that YOU are being a troll and trying to pick a fight with me. Sorry. Not interested. I'm not 14, I'm 42, and I'm too grown up for that sort of thing--and I'm certainly not going to take any offense at you calling *someone else* childish names. Lol! I will not reply to any further such rudeness on your part. Please take your trolling elsewhere. >>Best wishes, and I hope that you come to have many an anecdote >>to pass on from new "owners." :) :) :) <snip> > My opinion is that YOU are being a troll and trying to pick a fight > with me. Sorry. Not interested. I'm not 14, I'm 42, and I'm too [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I will not reply to any further such rudeness on your part. Please > take your trolling elsewhere. You haven't been here very long, but I've no doubt you've already been put in some peoples killfiles. To accuse people, that have posted here for years, of being trolls makes _you_ the rude one. I think you owe Ceryl an apology. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > <snip> >> My opinion is that YOU are being a troll and trying to pick a fight [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > years, of being trolls makes _you_ the rude one. I think you owe Ceryl an > apology. Not very long at all 3 post total ever here in this news group most of his post are in alt. politics.democrat http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?show=more&enc_user=A2JvnAsAAAAkr3_8EAL12 qChNCkbeT8r&hl=en&group= And Don't even think of apologizing for me I meant what I said >><snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > And Don't even think of apologizing for me I meant what I said I'm sorry, it's too late for that. I will, however, not apologise for you in the future, even though it was wrong, and I will forgive you, as I hope that you will forgive me. I humbly ask that I not be judged by the content of my posts on alt.politics.democrat. That is a newsgroup where people go to work off steam. This newsgroup is for different purposes, and my posts will reflect this, as they already have. It has been a while since I have posted to this group; however, I have been here in heart if not in body. Please ask your friend Baha about The Prophet Jeff and the religion of Fritzianity. That said, I would appreciate it if I were given the enough peace that I can return to posting anecdotes about the angels that I have been blessed with and stop defending myself for standing up to wrongdoing. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > years, of being trolls makes _you_ the rude one. I think you owe Ceryl an > apology. Thank you for your attempt to help; however, I can't do that. There seems to be a clash of cultures here. I'm going to explain mine. My Catholic grandmother brought me up to believe that Morality is Morality, and that the actions of every person, no matter their history, are to be judged by the same standard. While I bear no ill will, I must remain true to these tenets. I must give others the opportunity to repent, and to inform me of anything that I should repent, if this is truly the case. I reserve the right to make this judgement, as I believe others will judge for themselves the things that I indicate to them. It follows that, even when I spell out behavior that I think is incorrect, I bear no ill will to the person I whom I offer the opportunity to repent. People sometimes take my opportunities to repent as insults; they are never meant that way. My only goal is to change the behavior. It also follows that I cannot permit the worth of any person to be measured in number of posts. There is simply too much more to a person to allow such a simplistic standard to apply. Finally, it follows that I feel that one should earn one's muster every time out, though everyone makes mistakes and should be forgiven for them. In fact, I am very patient and easy-going when I am not forced to stand up for myself. If this level of integrity is too much for you (and it is too much for many), then by all means add me to your kill file. I will not compromise my morals--and that is what I perceive this as trying to make me do--and I will not kowtow to any authority but One. That's not going to change. End of statement of culture. If I apologise and Ceryl does not, it would be tantamount to an admission that what she did was right. It was not. The way Ceryl treated me was rude, period--in fact, I think I treated Ceryl better than Ceryl treated me: even while she was trying to pick a fight with me, I indicated that I would not engage in a flame war. This is not meant as an insult to Ceryl, but merely an effort to explain what I believe is going on here. I mean no insult to you, either, Adrian, but I also feel that it was wrong to subject me to a double standard. You went so far as to edit out Ceryl's post, the material that caused me to react in the manner that I did. This is simply not right. I feel that, by your standard, you owe me an apology for this. Please try not to do this to others in the future. <snip> > I mean no insult to you, either, Adrian, but I also feel that > it was wrong to subject me to a double standard. You went > so far as to edit out Ceryl's post, the material that caused > me to react in the manner that I did. This is simply not > right. I feel that, by your standard, you owe me an apology > for this. Please try not to do this to others in the future. PLONK > It also follows that I cannot permit the worth of any person to be > measured in number of posts. There is simply too much more to a > person to allow such a simplistic standard to apply. *sigh* You crashed a party. Yes, I know, usenet is for everyone, there's no moderation on this group, and nothing prevented you from posting. That being said, people around here know each other well enough that when someone just appears and suddenly starts posting and accusing people who have been posting here for years of being trolls ... well, the fur's going to fly. You come across as antagonistic and difficult. Perhaps you're not aware that in the past, people have posted bogus stories just to mess with the regulars in this group. To be frank, I'm still not sure whether or not this is the case for the originator of this thread. It feels like you crashed a party and then started lecturing the hosts on the immorality of whatever dishes they chose. No one is judged on the number of posts they've made. Everyone is judged on the average quality of their posts. If I see a stock that has had an upward trend for the last three years straight, I figure the odds are pretty good that the trend will continue. If it's had an upward trend for the two days it's existed, that's not nearly as reassuring. And if the first news article coming from the IPO is about how they disapprove of everything the long-running winner stock is doing ... well, it reflects poorly on the IPO, not the long-running stock. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> It also follows that I cannot permit the worth of any person to be >> measured in number of posts. There is simply too much more to a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > people who have been posting here for years of being trolls ... well, > the fur's going to fly. lol Now this is priceless. See, Jeff? You thought you were posting to a global, unmoderated forum called Usenet, but you really stumbled upon a "private party." Or, more accurately, a bunch of sad freaks who think that is what it is. Thanks for straightening him out, Mo. :) >>It also follows that I cannot permit the worth of any person to be >>measured in number of posts. There is simply too much more to a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > people who have been posting here for years of being trolls ... well, > the fur's going to fly. And yet, these people act as if they can accuse people who are ostensibly coming to them for help of being trolls with impugnity? Where do you draw the line? Remember: I'm the guy who comes to the rescue of stray cats and young ladies who post to newsgroups to find nothing but insults and half-baked prejudgements. I'm a Western New York Democrat-- and that means that Old Boys' Clubs and me don't mix anyway. > You come across as antagonistic and difficult. Perhaps you're not > aware that in the past, people have posted bogus stories just to mess > with the regulars in this group. To be frank, I'm still not sure > whether or not this is the case for the originator of this thread. I'm not so much antagonistic as antagonizable. I will admit that I sometimes give back to others what they have given to me when I should try to be more diplomatic, but...I don't give any worse than I get. If I take an action that someone doesn't like, you can rest assured that the same action had already been done to someone I was defending, and that I didn't like it either. And I don't believe in giving special treatment to the Old Boys in an Old Boys Club. We Western New York Democrats are like that. Mind you, I'd like nothing more than to write about My Sweetie in peace, but, if someone starts pushing my buttons, I'm going to push back. I don't start these things. Speaking as someone who lives in farm country in New York State, I'd tend to believe her story, BTW. I've had friends on small farms--though none of 'em bred dogs--that could easily have been like the on that this poster described. > It feels like you crashed a party and then started lecturing the hosts > on the immorality of whatever dishes they chose. To some of you, perhaps. To me, it feels like I walked into a room full of haughtiness and tried to clear the air. > No one is judged on the number of posts they've made. Everyone is > judged on the average quality of their posts. If I see a stock that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > is doing ... well, it reflects poorly on the IPO, not the long-running > stock. This is a good analogy, but there are some minor problems that need to be worked out. By your analogy, I'm a private firm, not an IPO. I don't care if the Old Boys put me in their kill files. So...I'll be opening for business tomorrow regardless of what the market does. I'm not for sale. That said, I promise to conduct myself according to the highest standards of my business, as I have been doing. I'll leave for much, much later the discussion about investing in that "winner," Enron. If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another display name or email address. If so they may not recognize you. > If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another display name > or email address. If so they may not recognize you. Should I dignify this insult with a substantiative reply? >> If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another display >> name or email address. If so they may not recognize you. > > Should I dignify this insult with a substantiative reply? DO we know each other NO So how could I know if this is you that you are describing from before If you want to act like a jerk you will be treated like a jerk > >> If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another display > >> name or email address. If so they may not recognize you. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If you want to act like a jerk you will be treated like a jerk You know what happens if you lie with pigs, right, Matthew? Remember when these people were convinced you were a troll? >> >> If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another >> >> display [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You know what happens if you lie with pigs, right, Matthew? > Remember when these people were convinced you were a troll? That is why I am giving him the benefit of the doubt like I did you, Barry and L the groups were convinced that all three of you were trolls But with his last comment it is already leaning to the other side >>>>>If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another >>>>>display [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > But with his last comment it is already leaning to the other side OK. Based on this last exchange, I'll give it another try. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your question as an attempt to abase my character. It's been a trying few days. Baha told me that there were good people on this list. I didn't expect to find a bunch of 'em going after someone who had asked for help, and I didn't expect 'em to start going after me when I tried to smooth things over. I got a little defensive. That said, then, my good sir, I have posted only under the name and email address shown here. I have spoken with another person who posts to this list: Liz Singh, who posts under the name "Baha," which is short for her middle name, Bahadur. She written a sort of a story and posted it to this newsgroup under the thread title of "The Prophet." In that thread, there is a character named "The Prophet Jeff" who is based on me. The character and I are not the same, but we are similar. I have posted to this newsgroup once or twice before, but I don't remember whether I used one of my many email addresses or bummed one off of Liz, because I was using her computer at the time (I had just fixed the modem for her and was testing her internet connection for her, among other things). That is the extent of my involvement in this group. Again, I apologise for regarding your sincere question as an insult. Hopefully, this honest answer can help start the process of smoothing things over. Well than Welcome to the group Jeff > If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another display name > or email address. If so they may not recognize you. And who the f.ck cares? If some of the anecdotes regulars want a private group, there are places where they can have one. This is USENET. An open forum. Besides which, who could be stupid enough to think anyone in this mealy-mouthed group of hypocrites actually "knows" any of the others? All any of you know is what they choose to present to you. And with people as consistent dedicated to self gratification as most of you are, I would not bet the farm on the honesty of the presentation. You are beginning to smell like these a.sholes, Matthew. For some reason I thought you were made of better stuff. Jeff didn't like the way many in the group replied to the OP and he is entitled to his opinion. He was also entitled to apologize for any of you who did not have the sense to apologize yourselves, if that is how he felt. Consider this: yelling "troll" at any newcomer is a form of trolling--those of you who do it are looking for a reaction--you want the poster out of your face. So Jeff was right, you are the trolls. >> If you are this guy you are describing did you you use another display > name [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > You are beginning to smell like these a.sholes, Matthew. For some reason I > thought you were made of better stuff. What the f@ck is your problem Cybercat I asked the man if he used another display name that they may recognized I don't know if you are having a bad day or what but do even think you can take it out on me > Jeff didn't like the way many in the group replied to the OP and he is > entitled to his opinion. He was also entitled to apologize for any of you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > your > face. So Jeff was right, you are the trolls. > What the f@ck is your problem Cybercat > I asked the man if he used another display name that they may recognized I am surprised that you are jumping on the bandwagon of fools who want to know who grill any newcomer to the group, Matthew. I think you are in danger of becoming an anecdolt. I flame you out of genuine concern. *meaningful glance* >> What the f@ck is your problem Cybercat >> I asked the man if he used another display name that they may recognized [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I flame you out of genuine concern. *meaningful glance* Than look in the mirror YOU ARE ASSUMING AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ASSUME I was the shining light here I asked him if he used another email address or display name that the group would recognize. If he is who he says he is. This display name or email address has never posted in this group till the other day ever. http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?show=more&enc_user=A2JvnAsAAAAkr3_8EAL12 qChNCkbeT8r&hl=en&group= If I changed my display name completely would anyone recognize me if I disappeared and came back in a in a year unless I said something > >> What the f@ck is your problem Cybercat > >> I asked the man if he used another display name that they may recognized [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > This display name or email address has never posted in this group till the > other day ever. http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?show=more&enc_user=A2JvnAsAAAAkr3_8EAL12 qChNCkbeT8r&hl=en&group= > If I changed my display name completely would anyone recognize me if I > disappeared and came back in a in a year unless I said something The larger point is, it doesn't matter whether he posted here before, or whether any of the warped-out Stepford dolts "recognize" or know him--he is entitled to his opinion and may voice it. He was not, as FUBAR MoMo said, "crashing a private party." This is Usenet. In Usenet, to buy into the mindset that you have some little private group thing going is sick. Why? Because it is the opposite of private: it is a bunch of exhibitionists who aim for exclusiveness while displaying their most private information ad nauseum in a public forum. This has been a public service announcement. I feel it is my public duty to give these idiots an reality check every now and then. Sorry if it offends you, Matthew. On the other hand, finding yourself easily offended in Usenet is one of the first signs that you may be becoming one of them--the Pod People of "I'm Okay, You're Okay, and to-hell-with-the-Cats-if-they-Get in the-Way" Anecdolts. >> >> What the f@ck is your problem Cybercat >> >> I asked the man if he used another display name that they may [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > the-Way" > Anecdolts. I am far from easily offended. I just wanted to know what the problem was with 2 internet friends. If you were having a bad day I was not going to be a target. I am not in the interest anymore to be arguing. I have more important things to do than get in flame wars or debates or arguments. As you noticed in the other group I just drop out and was done with it. I am to old and to much in good moods all the time to be annoyed on the internet anymore. John Doe is the only exception he is a perfect target. Mine was a innocent post that looks to have been taken out of context. I was giving the benefit of the doubt but neither here nor there. People can take it as they like If I have to go back to doing what I do I will. > I am not in the interest anymore to be arguing. what is THAT supposed to mean! btw! what in THE HELL are you doing over here on the short bus? you think cause these women are a little slow you're gonna get some pussy Matt? they got laws about fondling challenged women uh... you are here for the women aint' you.. >> I am not in the interest anymore to be arguing. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > uh... you are here for the women aint' you.. How else Am I to be know as a dirty old man ;-) > How else Am I to be know as a dirty old man ;-) I can vouch for you Matt! lemme know if anybody gives you any crap or don't co-operate I can prescribe more shock therapy for them it's a firedrill matt! lets freak everybody out, this oughtta get your a few beaver shots "Matthew aka NMR" <catslave@antispam.com> wrote> > John Doe is the only exception he is a perfect target. We agree on that! > Mine was a innocent post that looks to have been taken out of context. If I did that, I apologize. I may have gotten you wrong. I am not having a bad day, Matthew, I am having a good day! On bad days I am quiet and subdued, on good days I am full of p*ss and vinegar. Or .... something. : D Whatcha doing for Memorial Day dinner? And why don't you post in the cooking group, they are an amusing bunch of people. More than enough freaks to go around there! > "Matthew aka NMR" <catslave@antispam.com> wrote> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If I did that, I apologize. I may have gotten you wrong. Excepted and never take me at face vaule please I have a lot of hidden talents and other things at least my mother told me so :-) > I am not having a bad day, Matthew, I am having a good day! > > On bad days I am quiet and subdued, on good days I am full of > p*ss and vinegar. Or .... something. : D <EVIL LAUGH> > Whatcha doing for Memorial Day dinner? And why don't you > post in the cooking group, they are an amusing bunch of people. > More than enough freaks to go around there! Tomorrow we are doing a crawfish, shrimp, mussel seafood boil. Clams Italiano has been requested by the DW. Basically a clam bake I had to get a permit to have the clam bake due to the forest fires near by luckily I have a fire fighter that is coming to the party tomorrow so that is covered. Going to cook up some turkey burgers , turkey franks with my avocado honey mustard relish, with Swiss cheese melted on them. Going to make up a harvest salad. Got some watermelon in the frig chilling. Going to bake a Spanish bar cake, some double chocolate chip cookies and have some ice cream for dessert of course And that last line is why I want nothing to do with the groups too many already in the cat groups why deal with them also > Tomorrow we are doing a crawfish, shrimp, mussel seafood boil. Clams > Italiano has been requested by the DW. Basically a clam bake I had to get [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a Spanish bar cake, some double chocolate chip cookies and have some ice > cream for dessert of course Dang, that sounds good. I may try to get away with chips, salsa and margaritas. The kids have been gone all weekend, and we almost have the laundry done and the house cleaned up. With a little luck we will spend tomorrow getting the yard cleaned up. The weather is perfect so I'd rather spend time with the dog and the cats than in the kitchen. Current project, teaching Kayla to sit quietly while a cat walks across the room. She will sit and she will stay, but only without too many distractions. She considers them a HUGE distraction. Especially Jake who will not walk across the room without stopping to hiss at her. Jo How is in the kitchen this will all be outside >> Tomorrow we are doing a crawfish, shrimp, mussel seafood boil. Clams >> Italiano has been requested by the DW. Basically a clam bake I had to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Jo > > Whatcha doing for Memorial Day dinner? And why don't you > > post in the cooking group, they are an amusing bunch of people. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > permit to have the clam bake due to the forest fires near by luckily I have > a fire fighter that is coming to the party tomorrow so that is covered. Yum yum! > Going to cook up some turkey burgers , turkey franks with my avocado > honey mustard relish, with Swiss cheese melted on them. Going to make up a > harvest salad. Got some watermelon in the frig chilling. Going to bake a > Spanish bar cake, some double chocolate chip cookies and have some ice cream > for dessert of course It all sounds good but I am not sure about the turkey burgers, are they good? > And that last line is why I want nothing to do with the groups too many > already in the cat groups why deal with them also Because you are a cook! >> > Whatcha doing for Memorial Day dinner? And why don't you >> > post in the cooking group, they are an amusing bunch of people. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > It all sounds good but I am not sure about the turkey burgers, are they > good? Yes they are all food is good no matter the taste it is up to the chef to prepare it right I don't like turkey bacon but I found a way to get around the taste. I put it in my smoker and add some oak and maple chips with some sun dried cherry wood gives it a very unique smoky flavor. Try it once add some swiss cheese to it the burger add sea salt to it when seasoning maybe some old bay or rosemary some fresh oregano >> And that last line is why I want nothing to do with the groups too many >> already in the cat groups why deal with them also > > Because you are a cook! Maybe I will try lurking over there for a bit > The larger point is, it doesn't matter whether he posted here > before, or whether any of the warped-out Stepford dolts "recognize" > or know him--he is entitled to his opinion and may voice it. He > was not, as FUBAR MoMo said, "crashing a private party." This is > Usenet. In Usenet, to buy into the mindset that you have some > little private group thing going is sick. Why? Because it is the opposite > of private: it is a bunch of exhibitionists who aim for > exclusiveness while displaying their most private information ad [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you may be becoming one of them--the Pod People of "I'm Okay, > You're Okay, and to-hell-with-the-Cats-if-they-Get in the-Way" Anecdolts. I think she said "crashed a party," without the word "private." I took her post to mean that people know each other and if someone news comes in and starts calling regulars trolls, "the fur is going to fly." I didn't follow all of the lead-up to that post, but I didn't get from that post that the group is exclusive or private. Plus, whatever she posts is her opinion and she can put whatever she likes on usenet, right? :) It's a good thing to have all of these different groups with different flavors, don't you think? It would be boring if they all were the same. Rhonda > > The larger point is, it doesn't matter whether he posted here > > before, or whether any of the warped-out Stepford dolts [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > different flavors, don't you think? It would be boring if they all > were the same. Bah, I had whatsername KF'd and then you go and make me read it anyway. By the way, whatsername knows all of the above, but she just can't help herself from posting. It's surely some form of mental illness, and as such should be treated with compassion, preferably by professionals using lots of medication and perhaps electroshock therapy. I kind of like the moniker "FUBAR MoMo" -- can I keep it? It makes me giggle, because a college friend used to call me Momo. As for FUBAR, well, I don't think I'm beyond all recognition *grin* Whatsername's obsession with the fact that newsgroups are open to everyone makes me snicker, too. Duh. I hope no one is under the illusion that anything they post here is confidential. So, for example, if I want to call whatsername a self-aggrandizing repetitive bitch, I should be aware that anyone in the world could see this message, possibly years after I posted it. Now, you ask, if she hates everyone on rpca so much, why does she post here? Yeah, I don't get it either. Personally, I prefer to spend my time with people whose company I enjoy. Now watch her go off on a rant about how people who use killfiles are weak. I love that one. Can Mary say "broken record"? Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Bah, I had whatsername KF'd and then you go and make me read it > anyway. By the way, whatsername knows all of the above, but she just [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > As for FUBAR, well, I don't think I'm beyond all recognition *grin* When you told the story about leaving the stray declawed cat outside overnight even though there are coyotes etc. that could easily kill it because Eric did not want you to allow it in the house, even in the garage, even in the bathroom, I understood that you are absolutely f.cked up beyond all recognition. You have a functioning brain but no backbone. You're more pathetic than most because you know right from wrong. You're just sad, Monique. I cannot imagine how you can look at your face in the mirror. > > The larger point is, it doesn't matter whether he posted here > > before, or whether any of the warped-out Stepford dolts "recognize" [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Rhonda Choice is something ever American and person in the world takes for granted everyday. It is something that a single step can change your future, a single word can change your destiny. Every day is choice and I am happy to be able to do that. If we were all the same, all did the same thing, all wanted the same thing what would our cats be like. There is a thought to ponder. Everyone should be welcomed into our lives, this newsgroups as long as they don't preach harm or evil or do either in real life. Maybe I am dreaming but ain't it a nice dream to have > > > > The larger point is, it doesn't matter whether he posted here [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > her post to mean that people know each other and if someone news comes > in and starts calling regulars trolls, "the fur is going to fly." Did you? Well, good! Monique did not say "private," of course. But if it were a public party then everyone would be welcome, right? And of course, anyone who has perused these groups for more than, say, 60 days must know that the term "troll" is meaningless. > I didn't follow all of the lead-up to that post, but I didn't get from > that post that the group is exclusive or private. > > Plus, whatever she posts is her opinion and she can put whatever she > likes on usenet, right? :) She can and she does. But reprimanding someone for posting his opinion on Usenet, in an unmoderated group, by telling him that he "crashed a party" is absurd. Monique is a miserable simpering borderline OCD cat-abusing piece of spineless caca. Who has found a fabulous home here in Anecdolts. And over the last two years or so has progressed far enough to raiser her rubber sword and whine that someone who is protesting the regulars' usual branding of a newcomer a "troll" is "crashing a party." All that considered, your comment does not follow from mine. Were you thinking I was trying to censor Momo? Nooooo, not at all. I was simply pointing out what an a.shole she is. > It's a good thing to have all of these different groups with different > flavors, don't you think? It would be boring if they all were the same. It *is* all the same--same old neurotic lamers clinging to a Usenet group as though it is a private club, throttling the new and/or different, all that sh.t. What would be interesting would be lots of neat cat anecdotes, instead of "purrs needed, I have to get my teeth filled, purrs needed, I have a vaginal infection ..." Ugh. > All that considered, > your comment does not follow from mine. Were you thinking I was trying to > censor Momo? Nooooo, not at all. I was simply pointing out what an a.shole > she is. Not censor. I thought of it as she was giving her opinion of his post, maybe him in general. You are giving your opinion of her post, maybe her in general. Opinions are welcomed on usenet, right? > It *is* all the same--same old neurotic lamers clinging to a Usenet group > as though it is a private club, throttling the new and/or different, all > that > sh.t. What would be interesting would be lots of neat cat anecdotes, instead > of "purrs needed, I have to get my teeth filled, purrs needed, I have a > vaginal infection ..." I realize many people use this group as a support group -- much more than just for cats. I am surprised at the level of personal issues on here every day, but we can just chose to read what we want to read, right? I usually skip most of the personal things, but I don't think that stuff is harmful unless your boss or a family member reads it (which is always possible on an open forum.) It does make for a lot of clutter if you're looking for cat anecdotes, but it's no big deal, at least not to me. Rhonda > I realize many people use this group as a support group -- much more > than just for cats. I am surprised at the level of personal issues [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > clutter if you're looking for cat anecdotes, but it's no big deal, > at least not to me. Have you actually read the RPCA FAQ? It might make a lot of things clear. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> I realize many people use this group as a support group -- much more >> than just for cats. I am surprised at the level of personal issues [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Have you actually read the RPCA FAQ? It might make a lot of things > clear. Only one problem with a FAQ they make no difference in a unmoderated public group no matter what they say in them. An ISP will only take action against a user for spam, porn and still than it may not >>> I realize many people use this group as a support group -- much >>> more than just for cats. I am surprised at the level of personal [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > will only take action against a user for spam, porn and still than > it may not Who said anything about taking action? When people express surprise at the fact that members of the group talk about things other than cats, it's clear they haven't read the FAQ. Anyway, as some folks love to point out, the group isn't moderated. That doesn't just mean that people can show up here and troll, insult others, and generally be a pain in the a.s. It also means that people who want to share their experiences with others in the group may do so. Oddly enough, "I can post anything I want" doesn't only apply to the people who like to stir sh.t up. http://www.angelfire.com/mt/yowie/catfaq.htm specifically http://www.angelfire.com/mt/yowie/pages/customs.htm#NotAboutCats 6.1.5 Darn it, half these posts aren't even about cats! That's what happens when friends start to have a conversation - you can start on one topic, and the conversation drifts so far that within 10 minutes you are talking about something else entirely and you didn't even notice the change. Occasionally people notice and put an [OT] in the subject line to signify that the post is Off Topic (ie, not about cats), but not always. Just think of this group as a bunch of people that became friends because of their cats. It makes it easier to understand the style and content of the posts, particularly the ones that are technically off topic. Would you tell one of your friends to shut up if he just announced his engagement? Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > I realize many people use this group as a support group -- much more > > than just for cats. I am surprised at the level of personal issues [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Have you actually read the RPCA FAQ? It might make a lot of things > clear. lol! Idiot. > > All that considered, > > your comment does not follow from mine. Were you thinking I was trying to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > possible on an open forum.) It does make for a lot of clutter if > you're looking for cat anecdotes, but it's no big deal, at least not to me. I don't mind any of it, though I find it painful to watch. What I do mind is the lynchmob attitude they all display when someone new comes in who does not kiss their flabby a.ses. Like Jeff, for example. As for your comments about Barry? You have never looked uglier. "Deep-seated problems," eh? Does this mean you don't like his posts? Don't enjoy his sense of humor? Don't like his style of writing? If so, say so--because I have liked you in the past, but that condescending, pseudo-psychologist tone is nauseating, particularly since you are talking about someone whose intellect and creativity are things to which you would never even aspire, let alone attain. And he pisses me off on a regular basis. As for Sherry? I have emails from her blasting this group for the very things I blast it for. Complete with snorts of derision, and comments intended to egg me on at poking fun at them. They are from a couple of years ago, before she Got Saved. She has denied sending them too, but there they are. Hypocrites are just so f.cking ugly, and so spineless. I can find nothing redeeming in Sherry's behavior. > I don't mind any of it, though I find it painful to watch. What I do mind is > the lynchmob attitude they all display when someone new comes in who > does not kiss their flabby a.ses. Like Jeff, for example. Jeff struck me as a guy more interested in apologizing for his underlings, rather than speaking for himself. > As for your comments about Barry? You have never looked uglier. Well, I did just mow the lawn. I need to jump in the shower. > "Deep-seated problems," eh? Does this mean you don't like his posts? > Don't enjoy his sense of humor? Don't like his style of writing? He reminds me of a kid jumping up and down and waving at grown-ups to get attention. At his age, and I'm assuming he's an adult, I think he has problems. He seems to go out of his way to antagonize people and I just don't see the humor in that. >If so, say > so--because I have liked you in the past, but that condescending, > pseudo-psychologist tone is nauseating, particularly since you are > talking about someone whose intellect and creativity are things to > which you would never even aspire, let alone attain. You're not so bad at the condescending thing yourself. > And he pisses me off on a regular basis. I used to read his posts but he was just too over-the-top. It seemed like after less people responded to him, the more he started jumping up and down, changing screen names, jumping some more. > As for Sherry? I have emails from her blasting this group for the very > things I blast it for. Complete with snorts of derision, and comments > intended to egg me on at poking fun at them. They are from a couple > of years ago, before she Got Saved. She has denied sending them too, > but there they are. Hypocrites are just so f.cking ugly, and so spineless. > I can find nothing redeeming in Sherry's behavior. Where was anyone talking about Sherry? I don't know about her history and private emails from two years ago, but I enjoy her posts. Does this mean coffee is off? :) Rhonda >> I don't mind any of it, though I find it painful to watch. What I do mind >> is [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Does this mean coffee is off? :) Of course not! And, yes, even as I hit the "send" button, I realized I had a bit of PKB going on there with the "condescending" comment. I do that, I do. BUT I don't actually believe in my superiority, I just like to piss people off. (I cannot decide which is worse ...) Nevertheless, my dear friend Barry is a creative genius with a very unusual communication style. I know him fairly well, and I don't think he has any problems more serious than most of us. With regard to attention-seeking behavior: nobody here is posting so nobody will notice them. There are different types of attention -seeking behavior. I like the creative, funny kind more than the "I backed over my child in the driveway, poor meeeeeee, I didn't get the disability I applied for, purrrs for poor meeeeee" type. Different strokes. Thank you for pointing out my own hypocrisy. An admirable deed. :) > He reminds me of a kid jumping up and down and waving at grown-ups to > get attention. At his age, and I'm assuming he's an adult, I think he > has problems. He seems to go out of his way to antagonize people and I > just don't see the humor in that. YOU GOT WHAT YOU PAID FOR NOW HUSH UP > > The larger point is, it doesn't matter whether he posted here > > before, or whether any of the warped-out Stepford dolts "recognize" [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > You're Okay, and to-hell-with-the-Cats-if-they-Get in the-Way" > > Anecdolts. You are annoyed because when you post nastiness we don't appreciate it. Why would we? AFAIC you are welcome here to post in the spirit of rpca. Otherwise please go back to h&b where it seems to be acceptable to slag everyone off and get aggressive. > I think she said "crashed a party," without the word "private." I took her > post to mean that people know each other and if someone news comes in and > starts calling regulars trolls, "the fur is going to fly." > > I didn't follow all of the lead-up to that post, but I didn't get from > that post that the group is exclusive or private. The group is *not* exclusive or private. We welcome anyone in the world who wants to share anecdotes about their cats. What we *don't* like is people posting like cybercat. Rude, confrontational, no empathy and back in my killfile. Tweed > Plus, whatever she posts is her opinion and she can put whatever she > likes on usenet, right? :) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Rhonda Jeff's OP on this thread is, to my knowledge, his first posting here. I know, because I'm the one who told him about the group last week. Let me take the blame for offense, and offer apology to those who felt the slings and arrows. I know he is a man who loves animals in general and cats in particular with a depth that many have never seen in others; Jeff made a twenty-mile drive last week to bring us cat litter because a glitch in my disability payment had kept me without an income for two months, and Louie's check had gone all to bills or we would have been toast. I think he might have cried worse that Louie and me when we sent Fritzie over the Bridge. Jeff doesn't always come across like a Dale Carnegie graduate. But then, who among us hasn't made a verbal gaffe among strangers and pissed off people the first time around? I have, my husband has, and so have a good many others. I don't mean any disrespect to those who felt slighted. And I sure don't want to take sides. I'm sorry about this explosion. Blessed be, Baha > >> What the f@ck is your problem Cybercat > >> I asked the man if he used another display name that they may recognized [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > If I changed my display name completely would anyone recognize me if I > disappeared and came back in a in a year unless I said something > Jeff's OP on this thread is, to my knowledge, his first posting here. I know, because I'm the one who told him > about the group last week. Let me take the blame for offense, and offer apology to those who felt the slings [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for rpca but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get scared off. It should be amusing to see some of the regulars backpedal now that they know he came at your invitation since I know everyone seems to like you. Candace > Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for rpca > but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get scared off. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I hope so. I'm afraid I'm going to be spanked off here with a paddle worthy of "Animal House"! Blessed be, Baha > Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for > rpca but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get > scared off. It should be amusing to see some of the regulars > backpedal now that they know he came at your invitation since I know > everyone seems to like you. I figured out that he was Baha's ex a bunch of posts back. I still think that he didn't choose the wisest way to introduce himself. As they say, you catch more flies with honey. Even if you disagree with someone vehemently, you're far more likely to reach them by being nice than by insulting them. It's very rare that someone will change their minds because you browbeat them. Not that that's always kept me off my high horse, but I do try. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for > > rpca but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I figured out that he was Baha's ex a bunch of posts back. I still > think that he didn't choose the wisest way to introduce himself. Nobody gives a sh.t, Monique. >>Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for >>rpca but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Not that that's always kept me off my high horse, but I do try. I wasn't scared off. :) :) :) But I'd like to set the record straight on one small score: I wasn't the one who started the brow beating. I let myself get caught up in it, and I recprocated, but I didn't actually start it. If you'll check the first post I made, you will see that it was actually pretty darned polite. It was meant for a young lady who had posted to this group asking for help and found a browbeating. Then--take a look for yourself-- some of the people who were browbeating the young lady in question started browbeating me. All I did was respond in kind. After that, things get a little bit POVish. MY POV is that I was asked to treat one of the browbeaters as if her excrement had no odor, and, when I refused, a couple of people "PLONK"ed me for for it. In the interest of light over heat, I'll end the story there. It is said that sometimes friends fight when they first meet, as this is actually a manner of negotiation. Let's hope that we can negotiate a little more light and a little less heat. I, for one, would be quite happy with that state of affairs. Jeff P.S. About that driving 20 miles thing...ummmm...there's a writer's group that meets near where Liz lives, and it was a meeting day. I was going to be in the neighborhood anyway. I DID shell out my own cash to make sure that their cats wouldn't be stepping in it, but that was a small price to pay. > I wasn't scared off. :) :) :) But I'd like to set the record > straight on one small score: I wasn't the one who started the > brow beating. I let myself get caught up in it, and I recprocated, > but I didn't actually start it. None of this matters, Jeff. The point is, you are supposed to follow the crowd. And if you don't, the pussies here unleash their impotent fury on you. Victor will even get all huffy and call you the C-word and hurl one of his featherweight loafers at you. Wahahaha! I know it was writers' night, but you did not have to shell out for the kitty litter. You did that out of your own goodness even though i know you're strapped. I'm sorry if it came off as exaggeration, but frankly you were out here for the writing, not to shlep me around for litter. Louie and I and the cats remain indebted. >>>Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for >>>rpca but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >cash to make sure that their cats wouldn't be stepping in it, but >that was a small price to pay. > Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for rpca > but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get scared off. > It should be amusing to see some of the regulars backpedal now that > they know he came at your invitation since I know everyone seems to > like you. What do you get out of rpca, Candace? Joyce > > Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for rpca > > but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get scared off. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What do you get out of rpca, Candace? My bet is, she finds it fascinating, like a train wreck. You don't want to look, but you can't quite believe how terrible it really is, so you have to. Me, I just like to point out hypocrisy and poke idiots with shallow agendas with sticks. Where is the hypocrisy? Cats are secondary here, despite the name of the group. They are secondary to all of you feeling goooood about your lame selves; second to the exhibitionist, mutual masturbation sessions many of you have here every day, secondary to your convenience. Yes, many of you. To not speak out against, for example, "Yowie's complete failure to adequately address an aggression problem brought about by her own neglect, indicates tacit acceptance. > > Sounds like a very nice guy. I found him kind of refreshing for rpca > > but, then, I'm partial to rpchb, too. I hope he didn't get scared off. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Joyce Hmmm, I 'd have to say I mostly read rpca when things are slow on rpchb, as they have been lately. I like to get my cat fix everyday and rpchb doesn't always provide that. As you know, there are many people who do post to both rpca and rpchb so I do see familiar names here. I don't post here much, though, because rpca just does not appeal to me on many levels as much as rpchb does. I know there are plenty of nice people here and I know OT stuff is very much encouraged but I guess it's a little too sweet and perfect for me most of the time here; hence, my rarity of postings. To me, rpchb isn't evil and filled with a bunch of ranting egomaniacs which seems to be the opinion of many rpca'ers. It's more like real life where you can actually say what you want instead of having to sugarcoat everything and tread lightly like you do here. I understand your premise for this group and obviously everyone is free to ignore or dislike whoever they want but you do all seem a little cliquey and as though you don't really want any new blood unless they tow the line and, even then, it seems like they have to prove themselves for quite awhile before they're accepted. It's not that I love to flame nor do most of the people who post on rpchb but, yes, flamewars do break out (like they do even here sometimes!!!!!!) and differing opinions can get heated but, what's wrong with that? Here a differing opinion is barely tolerated and it's all about being sweet and loving to everyone regardless of what awful/silly/stupid/wrong/poorly executed thing they might have done. If anyone criticizes a decision or remark made by a regular, they get plonked and recipe-ed. On rpchb, people might get yelled at but I've seen former "enemies" become friendly and people actually back down and apologize or others admit that they were wrong to begin with and still others admit that they have learned something valuable about cats. A disagreement is allowed to play out there rather than get swept under the rug. It's just a matter of personal preferences, I guess, but I do enjoy reading some of the posts here and posting occasionally myself. Candace |
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