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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2006purrs, please -- dr appt today
I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for something to happen. As of Friday, the nature of my bowel troubles seems to have reversed itself. Still no fun, though. If your kitties aren't sick of me, I wouldn't mind some purrs that my doctor can actually help me figure out what's wrong and how to fix it. DH said this morning, "I can't imagine that you can be in this much pain without doctors being able to pinpoint a reason." From what I've read of IBS, though, I'm not sure. Because of the pain I was in all night and the constant throne-sitting, I took a sick day today. I feel slightly better now. It used to be that my belly hurt all evening on work days. Then it just hurt all the time. Now it hurts all night, preventing me from sleeping (which I believe is a sign that it might *not* be IBS -- IBS criteria specifically say it shouldn't keep you up at night). I am so sick of this. I thought I was doing better. I even rode my mountain bike yesterday, on a trail that is technically easy but physically challenging (lots of long climbs). I felt stronger than I ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery?  Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? Rusty will be purring for you when he woke up from his long morning nap. I hope your doctor will refer you to a GI doc or order some tests to pinpoint your problem. The only time I had pain as bad as yours was when I ate something that didn't agree with me. Don't mean to be nosy, but what did you have for supper? Winnie > Rusty will be purring for you when he woke up from his long morning > nap. I hope your doctor will refer you to a GI doc or order some > tests to pinpoint your problem. The only time I had pain as bad as > yours was when I ate something that didn't agree with me. Don't mean > to be nosy, but what did you have for supper? I'll ask for a recommendation, but I'm definitely planning on seeing a specialist, whether she can recommend one or not. I had a few things last night, all intended to be easy to digest: Healthy Choice chicken & dumpling soup (I didn't eat the harder-to-digest veggies from it), a tortilla, and I think some applesauce. Lunch was more exciting, but the fact that this is similar to how my tummy has felt every night since Friday makes me think it's more than just what I ate. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? > monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully Doc appointment today? Lay all the above on the doc(s) for expert, useful opinion of your troubles. Don't forget garage-hanging-open episode recently. Whatever meds they have you on, it may be time for a change! Nothing wierd about changing meds....I have different medical problems, and the powers-that-be change mine very frequently (I never throw away the abandoned meds, though, as sometimes (LOL) we go right back to the expensive little devils again after lab tests are given. In my case, lab tests show all results in battle against triglycerides ongoing for years now; it may not be that easy to gauge results in your case... Hope you get some satisfaction today and answers to your concerns. > Doc appointment today? Lay all the above on the doc(s) for expert, > useful opinion of your troubles. Don't forget garage-hanging-open > episode recently. Whatever meds they have you on, it may be time > for a change! I don't have meds as an excuse! I've always been absent-minded, though ... I wrote out the history of this problem, as best I can remember it -- what it felt like at first, what dietary changes I've made, what it feels like now, etc. Hopefully that will point her to something. > it may not be that easy to gauge results in your case... > Hope you get some satisfaction today and answers to your concerns. Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Doc appointment today? Lay all the above on the doc(s) for expert, >> useful opinion of your troubles. Don't forget garage-hanging-open [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thank you. Has your doctor considered "torsion"? It plagued me for many years before it became acute. MLB > Has your doctor considered "torsion"? It plagued me for many > years before it became acute. MLB I don't know what that is ... looked on google, but there seem to be several definitions (I'm pretty sure it's not testicular torsion, whatever that is!) Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Has your doctor considered "torsion"? It plagued me for many >> years before it became acute. MLB > > I don't know what that is ... looked on google, but there seem to be > several definitions (I'm pretty sure it's not testicular torsion, > whatever that is!) I had a twisted bowel. I suffered with intense pain on and off for many years. It would leave as suddenly as it started. I was tested many times for appendicitis, ulcers, gallbladder. I then developed a persistent pain in my right back. When the pain got unbearable, I went to the surgeon who guess right away what was wrong. I went from his office to the hospital. All he had to do was straighten the kinked bowel - no cutting other than the incision. I went back to work in 3 weeks. whatever your doctor finds, I hope that it can be as quickly cured. Purrs and good wishes. MLB > I had a twisted bowel. I suffered with intense pain on and off for > many years. It would leave as suddenly as it started. I was tested [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > back to work in 3 weeks. whatever your doctor finds, I hope that > it can be as quickly cured. Purrs and good wishes. MLB Ugh, that sound awful. Thanks for your well-wishes. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Purrs on the way. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? > Purrs on the way. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? Thank you. No, I haven't. Just blood work (for thyroid, I think) and stool sample, both of which came back clean. I'm bringing a list I printed from wikipedia of suggested rule-out tests. Not that they're saying you need to have all of them, but it's a starting point for dialog with my doctor. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Purrs on the way. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? > > Thank you. No, I haven't. Just blood work (for thyroid, I think) and > stool sample, both of which came back clean. That's a coincidence - I just got put on thyroid pill for hypothyroidism (yes, one of the symptoms is constipation along with: hair loss, weight gain, muscle and joint pain - gee I thought I was just getting old). I didn't realize - *DUH* - that having had part of my thyroid gland removed, along with a benign tumor, over 20 years ago, might have caused it (but then again, the doctors didn't even bring it up either). To think that all these years of weight gain, hair loss, and pain may have been avoided. I just started taking the pills today, so I'll let you know how it goes. I hope the GI doc does a colonoscopy before making a diagnosis, it really is essential if for nothing else than to rule out some things it could be. Good luck! SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > I'm bringing a list I printed from wikipedia of suggested rule-out > tests. Not that they're saying you need to have all of them, but it's > a starting point for dialog with my doctor. >>> Purrs on the way. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > gain, hair loss, and pain may have been avoided. I just started > taking the pills today, so I'll let you know how it goes. Oh, man. Some of those symptoms sound like your fybromylagia (sp?) ... is it possible that all of that could clear up via thyroid pills, too? That would be awesome. > I hope the GI doc does a colonoscopy before making a diagnosis, it > really is essential if for nothing else than to rule out some things > it could be. I have a feeling that will be one of the tests. Funny thing, looking forward to a colonoscopy ... but if it helps eliminate (no pun intended) some possible culprits, it's a good thing. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>>> Purrs on the way. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ... is it possible that all of that could clear up via thyroid pills, > too? That would be awesome. That's what I'm fervently hoping! Although I'm perturbed that they didn't find this sooner, to give the doctors their due, I think I may have inadvertently been masking the results of the thyroid tests by my addiction to salt (I use 3 - 4 tablespoons a day*!!). I found out, when I researched this, that they use iodized salt to treat small children with thryroid disease. It's also possible that my extreme craving for salt was the result of my hypothyroidism ('round and 'round we go!). But again, I hope the pain is diminished by the new treatment (Armour Thyroid - which is pig's thyroid, they say this "natural" treatment is better than the alternative, Synthroid). It's been really bad lately to the point where it hurts to even turn over when I'm laying in bed! *It's a good think I have naturally very low blood pressure! SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ >> I hope the GI doc does a colonoscopy before making a diagnosis, it >> really is essential if for nothing else than to rule out some things [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > forward to a colonoscopy ... but if it helps eliminate (no pun intended) > some possible culprits, it's a good thing. > That's what I'm fervently hoping! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > *It's a good think I have naturally very low blood pressure! I was going to say all those salt can't be good for you blood pressure. I only use salt for gargling when I have a sore throat. I have a family history of high blood pressure so I have to watch my salt intake. My diet is pretty bland as a result, which may be good for IBS. Winnie >>> I hope the GI doc does a colonoscopy before making a diagnosis, it >>> really is essential if for nothing else than to rule out some things [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> forward to a colonoscopy ... but if it helps eliminate (no pun intended) >> some possible culprits, it's a good thing. > But again, I hope the pain is diminished by the new treatment (Armour > Thyroid - which is pig's thyroid, they say this "natural" treatment is > better than the alternative, Synthroid). It's been really bad lately > to the point where it hurts to even turn over when I'm laying in bed! I've had an underactive thyroid for over 25 years, and my mother had one for over 50. Of my 4 sisters, three are on thyroid hormone as well. My youngest sister is the only one to have escaped so far, and her doctor is apparently testing her on an annual basis. As chronic health issues go, it's about the least problematic one to have *once you get it under control*. Getting it under control is a Royal PITA, but once you get the dosage of hormone figured out it's just a matter of taking the little pill every day. Katrina -- History: special people in special places at special times Anthropology: everyone else the rest of the time -KWorley, 1997 > But again, I hope the pain is diminished by the new treatment > (Armour Thyroid - which is pig's thyroid, they say this "natural" > treatment is better than the alternative, Synthroid). It's been > really bad lately to the point where it hurts to even turn over when > I'm laying in bed! I'm so sorry. That's awful. I also fervently hope that this thyroid medication will usher in a new era of pain-free Lori. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>>> Purrs on the way. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > forward to a colonoscopy ... but if it helps eliminate (no pun intended) > some possible culprits, it's a good thing. Oh, BTW, a colonoscopy is not bad. The worst part is the preparation for it (drinking the carbonated magnesium to clean you out is yucky). For the test itself they knock you out and you don't feel a thing. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Oh, BTW, a colonoscopy is not bad. The worst part is the > preparation for it (drinking the carbonated magnesium to clean you > out is yucky). For the test itself they knock you out and you don't > feel a thing. I just can't think it would feel too good afterwards. But regardless, if that's what it takes, I'll put up with it. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Oh, BTW, a colonoscopy is not bad. The worst part is the >> preparation for it (drinking the carbonated magnesium to clean you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I just can't think it would feel too good afterwards. But regardless, > if that's what it takes, I'll put up with it. I don't recall any problem with afterwards, but do make sure they will knock you out. They don't always. Think Katie Couric. I'm pretty sure she was awake for the one they televised. Jo > I don't recall any problem with afterwards, but do make sure they > will knock you out. They don't always. Think Katie Couric. I'm > pretty sure she was awake for the one they televised. Er, that didn't ring any bells, but wikipedia came to the rescue. They televised her getting an exam? And people watched it? Weird. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> I don't recall any problem with afterwards, but do make sure they >> will knock you out. They don't always. Think Katie Couric. I'm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They televised her getting an exam? And people watched it? Weird. She was promoting colonoscopy as her husband died from colon caner. I like to watch her, but I didn't want to watch the colonoscopy. I saw her in person in the Today show when I was in NYC. Even had a picture taken with her. I could be seen on TV among the crowd waving outside the studio. But of course none of my friend saw me. Winnie >> Oh, BTW, a colonoscopy is not bad. The worst part is the >> preparation for it (drinking the carbonated magnesium to clean you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I just can't think it would feel too good afterwards. But regardless, > if that's what it takes, I'll put up with it. No, I didn't feel anything at all afterwards. Even DH, who had a polyp snipped for analysis didn't feel anything afterwards. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > That's a coincidence - I just got put on thyroid pill for hypothyroidism > (yes, one of the symptoms is constipation along with: hair loss, weight [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > all these years of weight gain, hair loss, and pain may have been avoided. > I just started taking the pills today, so I'll let you know how it goes. I read thsy thyroid problems are fairly common among mature women, just like it is common among mature cats. Both Rusty and my blood tests recently include thyroid functions and we are both fine. Another health issue I have in common with my cat. Winnie > I hope the GI doc does a colonoscopy before making a diagnosis, it really > is essential if for nothing else than to rule out some things it could be. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> tests. Not that they're saying you need to have all of them, but it's >> a starting point for dialog with my doctor. >> That's a coincidence - I just got put on thyroid pill for hypothyroidism >> (yes, one of the symptoms is constipation along with: hair loss, weight [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > functions and we are both fine. > Another health issue I have in common with my cat. Well, I definitely fit the "mature" description! ;> I also had part of my thyroid gland removed over 20 years ago when I had a benign tumor growing on it. I'm a bit peeved that they didn't start me on thyroid medication back then - it might have saved me years of those symptoms. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Winnie >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> tests. Not that they're saying you need to have all of them, but it's >>> a starting point for dialog with my doctor. > That's a coincidence - I just got put on thyroid pill for hypothyroidism > (yes, one of the symptoms is constipation along with: hair loss, weight [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > years of weight gain, hair loss, and pain may have been avoided. I just > started taking the pills today, so I'll let you know how it goes. That's very strange, that they didn't check your thyroid levels after the surgery. I, too, had thyroid surgery over 20 years ago, but the tumour was malign so they removed the whole thyroid gland, and obviously put me straight on thyroid medication. I hope the pills help you! SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> That's a coincidence - I just got put on thyroid pill for hypothyroidism >> (yes, one of the symptoms is constipation along with: hair loss, weight [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > malign so they removed the whole thyroid gland, and obviously put me > straight on thyroid medication. I hope the pills help you! I think it's odd too. The only explanation I have for all these years is miscommunication between too many doctors. Here is in the US there is a specialist for every part of the body and even your GP doesn't look at the whole picture. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > I think it's odd too. The only explanation I have for all these years is > miscommunication between too many doctors. Here is in the US there is a > specialist for every part of the body and even your GP doesn't look at the > whole picture. You have to take control of the situation. It is your body and you know it best. Take notes of what all the doctors say and do your own research. My doctpr also referred to many specialists that I can barely keep track. Once I requested a test for the bacteria that causes ulcer to be included in my annual bloodwork. My doctor think its unnecessary as I don't have ucler, but she did request the test. Sure enough the test came back positive. Winnie Purrs and prayers from us that everything turns out ok. Lily & her mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? > Purrs and prayers from us that everything turns out ok. > Lily & her mama Thank you. I doubt that my doctor will be able to give me much help today; I figure this is mostly an orientation meeting, to figure out where to go from here. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for >something to happen. > >As of Friday, the nature of my bowel troubles seems to have reversed >itself. Still no fun, though. (snip) >I am so sick of this. I thought I was doing better. I even rode my >mountain bike yesterday, on a trail that is technically easy but >physically challenging (lots of long climbs). I felt stronger than I >ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was >moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like that? Food sensitivities can make you very ill at erratic intervals and it can be very hard to pin the culprit down. > Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure > it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like > that? Food sensitivities can make you very ill at erratic intervals > and it can be very hard to pin the culprit down. I'm not sure of anything. Several months ago I had a blood test for gluten intolerance, and my doctor said I was clear. I haven't had any dairy for over a week now. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure >> it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > gluten intolerance, and my doctor said I was clear. I haven't had any > dairy for over a week now. Gluten is from food like wheat, not diary, as far a I know. I didn't know you can test for food intolerance with a blood test. When my GI doc ordered a test for possible lactose intolerance, it was a stool test. Winnie >>> Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure >>> it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > When my GI doc ordered a test for possible lactose intolerance, it > was a stool test. I know dairy isn't related to gluten .. I just know that gluten and dairy are two biggies in tracking this down, so both points seem relevant. I haven't had any tests for dairy. My doctor said something about tests being inconclusive, or maybe not representing all possible dairy sensitivities. But it was definitely a blood test for gluten. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I know dairy isn't related to gluten .. I just know that gluten and > dairy are two biggies in tracking this down, so both points seem [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > tests being inconclusive, or maybe not representing all possible > dairy sensitivities. But it was definitely a blood test for gluten. I should ask to include gluten next year when I have my annual checkup and blood test. I am trying to cut back on the gluten in my diet to see if it makes any difference. Just discovered there are all kinds of gluten free food in the health food store. They tend to be more pricey though. Winnie >>>> Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure >>>> it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >tests being inconclusive, or maybe not representing all possible >dairy sensitivities. But it was definitely a blood test for gluten. Yep, gluten and dairy are major intestinal culprits... dairy is self-testing though - all you have to do (if you're feeling brave) is to drink a large glass of full-cream milk and wait and see if anything bad happens in the next six hours! If it doesn't, then you can pretty much rule out lactose-intolerance. But if they can't find any physical reasons for your reactions you might want to ask them about doing an elimination diet - it's not much fun because you stop eating practically everything for a few weeks and then gradually reintroduce foods to see if anything changes... but it might help and it's not surgically invasive! > Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure > it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like that? > Food sensitivities can make you very ill at erratic intervals and it > can be very hard to pin the culprit down. I was just thinking Monique may have a possible gluten intoerance too. Unfortunately, I think lots of food have gluten. But can you develop gluten intolerance all of a sudden? Winnie >>Many purrs of support for you Monique! I have to say, are you sure >>it's not a food allergy or gluten intolerance or something like that? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Winnie My understanding is that gluten intolerance is a lifelong thing, but people quite often aren't diagnosed until they're in their late twenties or thirties. The blood test isn't perfect; I believe the definitive test is a small bowel biopsy. But I'm sure your specialist will consider that if it's appropriate. > My understanding is that gluten intolerance is a lifelong thing, but > people quite often aren't diagnosed until they're in their late > twenties or thirties. The blood test isn't perfect; I believe the > definitive test is a small bowel biopsy. But I'm sure your > specialist will consider that if it's appropriate. That sounds not fun. We'll see. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>My understanding is that gluten intolerance is a lifelong thing, but >>people quite often aren't diagnosed until they're in their late [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That sounds not fun. We'll see. Actually it's not as bad as it sounds. It's done while you're awake but under heavy sedation; I can't speak from experience but I know a few people who've had it done and none remembers a thing about it. >> That sounds not fun. We'll see. > > Actually it's not as bad as it sounds. It's done while you're awake > but under heavy sedation; I can't speak from experience but I know a > few people who've had it done and none remembers a thing about it. Well, I guess I'll believe you, then =) Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca We would like to introduce ourself as an exporter of natural essential oils & fragrances. 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With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to the file location posted here. > We would like to introduce ourself as an exporter of natural essential > oils & fragrances. Please visit us at Who is this idjit and how did he get loose in the group? Seriously, I killfiiled him once, tried to do it again and my filter says that i already have him killfile. :-( Pam S. who's going to start bringing out high fiber recipes if he keeps it up. >>>That sounds not fun. We'll see. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Well, I guess I'll believe you, then =) snigger... I just re-read my post and it doesn't exactly sound convincing, does it? >>>>That sounds not fun. We'll see. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > snigger... I just re-read my post and it doesn't exactly sound > convincing, does it? Either way, if it needs to be done, I'll do it ... it's not like I haven't been in pain already. What's a little more? But I'm now past 24 hours pain free *knock on wood* ... maybe my massage therapist's homeopathic guess was good as gold. I've never thought much of homeopathy, but if it can do this ... dayum. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>>My understanding is that gluten intolerance is a lifelong thing, but >>>people quite often aren't diagnosed until they're in their late [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >under heavy sedation; I can't speak from experience but I know a few >people who've had it done and none remembers a thing about it. I don't think they tried to knock me out for my colonoscopy,but I was so exhausted from not sleeping the night before that I just slept through the procedure. The buildup they gave me, though, made me think that I'd be out of it for days, but heck, I could have gone to work that afternoon! I felt FINE and was royally upset that they made such a fuss over it. Sheesh. Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita > If your kitties aren't sick of me, I wouldn't mind some purrs that my > doctor can actually help me figure out what's wrong and how to fix it. Lots of purrs on the way. I really hope someone can figure out what's up. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> If your kitties aren't sick of me, I wouldn't mind some purrs that >> my doctor can actually help me figure out what's wrong and how to >> fix it. > > Lots of purrs on the way. I really hope someone can figure out > what's up. Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for >something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was >moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? Purrs heading your way! Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.moonsummer.com http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) > Purrs heading your way! Thank you! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? Purrs on the way. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > Purrs on the way. Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca I saw my doctor. Before I'd even gotten around to asking for a gastroenterologist, she had a referral written up. She said she strongly suspects IBS, but we should rule out other things, just in case. She says I've been more than patient, and it's definitely time to see a GI. She referred me to the Colorado Center for Digestive Disorders: http://www.gastromd.com/index.html Their website alone gives me hope that they'll know what to do. I have an appointment with them for Thursday. Someone was saying earlier that doctors are loathe to refer -- apparently not my doctor! I called the Center to get an appt and asked if they needed me to spell my dr's unusual name -- no, thanks, we get referrals from her all the time. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I saw my doctor. Before I'd even gotten around to asking for a > gastroenterologist, she had a referral written up. She said she [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > asked if they needed me to spell my dr's unusual name -- no, thanks, > we get referrals from her all the time. That's good you don't have to wait long to see a specialist. I am not going into the wait time here. Not all doctors loathe to refer, but I've known some do. Not my doctor though. She makes referral at the drop of a hat. Sounds like the center you are referred to has lots of GI specialists, which is good. I just bathed Rusty and he complained loudly. I told him to purr for Antie Monique. Winnie > That's good you don't have to wait long to see a specialist. I am > not going into the wait time here. Yeah. I was surprised. I guess it depends on the specialty. Every time I've tried to get an orthopedic surgeon or physical therapy appointment, the wait has been several weeks for anything at all. > Not all doctors loathe to refer, but I've known some do. Not my doctor > though. She makes referral at the drop of a hat. Sounds like the > center you are referred to has lots of GI specialists, which is good. > I just bathed Rusty and he complained loudly. I told him to purr for > Antie Monique. I think the center is only GI specialists. Purrs for you and Rusty. That bath can't have been fun for either of you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Yeah. I was surprised. I guess it depends on the specialty. Every > time I've tried to get an orthopedic surgeon or physical therapy > appointment, the wait has been several weeks for anything at all. > > I think the center is only GI specialists. That's good. I used to work as a research assistant at a GI unit at a university med. school. The doctors I worked specialised in liver and were nicknamed the 'liver men'. I worked on fatty acid long before the term is as well know as they are now. Purrs for you and Rusty. > That bath can't have been fun for either of you. He complained very loudly. He used to be quite quiet during his baths. I only bathed his ringworm 'hot spots'. I may try a whole body bath later this week. He is currently sitting in his room trying to get dry in the sun. With his being so agitated, I didn't dare to use the hair dryer on him. I mopped the floor of his room before the bath so it is still a bit damp. Good thing the sun finally came out. I have to watch the weather forecast to pick the time of his baths. Don't want him to catch a cold, afterall he is a senior cat. Winnie Winnie > Purrs for you and Rusty. >> That bath can't have been fun for either of you. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > time of his baths. Don't want him to catch a cold, afterall he is a > senior cat. I just hope this ringworm goes away soon for you! So much work! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I saw my doctor. Before I'd even gotten around to asking for a > gastroenterologist, she had a referral written up. She said she [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > asked if they needed me to spell my dr's unusual name -- no, thanks, > we get referrals from her all the time. This sounds very hopeful and it really is time a doctor finds a solution to your problems, Monique. We are purring and sending lots of best wishes, Polonca and Soncek > This sounds very hopeful and it really is time a doctor finds a > solution to your problems, Monique. We are purring and sending lots > of best wishes, Polonca and Soncek Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I saw my doctor. Before I'd even gotten around to asking for a >gastroenterologist, she had a referral written up. She said she [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >I have an appointment with them for Thursday. Oh, so soon! Purrs for your appointment on Thursday. I think you're very lucky - your experience with doctors seems so far to be about 100 times better than Tweed's. >>I have an appointment with them for Thursday. > > Oh, so soon! Purrs for your appointment on Thursday. I think > you're very lucky - your experience with doctors seems so far to be > about 100 times better than Tweed's. I hope some of my good luck rubs off on Tweed. She needs prompt medical care more than I do. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Puuuuurrs! Boy, you sound a lot like me. It sure does sound like IBS. That flipping back and forth, the stomach cramps. You sound worse though maybe. I'm telling you, since I've stopped eating out (mostly) and sticking as organic as possible, I've had very little trouble. Rmember too though, the doctor gave me Librax, and I did take that twice a day for about a month. Then I went to taking it just when that one spot started bothering me.I have had to resort to a gentle laxative only twice. Exercise can kind of make me hurt a little but I'm not listening to that. Gots to exercise. Please let us know how the appointment goes. > I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? > Puuuuurrs! Boy, you sound a lot like me. It sure does sound like > IBS. That flipping back and forth, the stomach cramps. You sound > worse though maybe. I don't know. It's hard to say. I have to say that I'm thankful I'm not as bad as some of the worst cases I've read about, where people feel confined to their houses because they never know when they'll have an attack. Right now, I feel normal. I just hope I stay that way as the evening progresses. > I'm telling you, since I've stopped eating out (mostly) and sticking > as organic as possible, I've had very little trouble. Rmember too [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > listening to that. Gots to exercise. Please let us know how the > appointment goes. I've also stopped eating out (mostly), and I'm trying to eat a layer of soluble fiber before anything else goes in my tummy. I'm avoiding anything hard to digest right now. It sounds like you have IBS-C, not D, if you had to take a laxative. That would be counterproductive for me!! I'm sorry that exercise makes it hurt. Can you just go on gentle walks? Does that irritate your tummy? I've read (and I think I've observed, via my RB dog as he got older) that walking helps get the gastric system on track. Some of my doctor's advice was a bit confusing. I asked her about taking fiber supplements, and told her I'm taking 9g a day. She said that for some people, fiber supplements help, and for others, they actually hurt, but in either case, it would have to be at least 20g to see an improvement. Huh. At that point I can see if it makes things better or worse. She also said that eating a bran cereal would help, and that it would help 'bulk up' ... you know. Odd, I thought insoluble fiber like bran was only good for C, not D. She also said to be careful with the peppermint pills, as they can actually cause acid reflux disease. I'd read it was only a worry if you already had it. Hrm. I dunno. I guess this is just more I need to ask the specialist about when I see him. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Puuuuurrs! Boy, you sound a lot like me. It sure does sound like >> IBS. That flipping back and forth, the stomach cramps. You sound [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > D, if you had to take a laxative. That would be counterproductive for > me!! yeah, usually that is my main problem. > I'm sorry that exercise makes it hurt. Can you just go on gentle > walks? Does that irritate your tummy? I've read (and I think I've > observed, via my RB dog as he got older) that walking helps get the > gastric system on track. Walking is what I do. I just seem to get achy, but the bnefit is better than the drawbacks. > Some of my doctor's advice was a bit confusing. I asked her about > taking fiber supplements, and told her I'm taking 9g a day. She said > that for some people, fiber supplements help, and for others, they > actually hurt, but in either case, it would have to be at least 20g to > see an improvement. Huh. At that point I can see if it makes things > better or worse. I'd sure try to do it with food as opposed to supplements (though it feels like you are eating All. The .Time. > She also said that eating a bran cereal would help, and that it would > help 'bulk up' ... you know. Odd, I thought insoluble fiber like bran > was only good for C, not D. For me at least, and from the reading I've done, it seems a key is to have *both* at the same time. So if I am going to have a high fiber or insoluble fiber food, I make sure I am also eating a soluble one. I think that is part of what got me into trouble. Eating a lot of insoluble fiber and not much from the soluble fiber group (which makes sense, since the soluble fiber takes water into the system. Just eating a lot of insoluble fiber with out the soluble, probably just leads to irritation!!) So you might try that approach too. > She also said to be careful with the peppermint pills, as they can > actually cause acid reflux disease. I'd read it was only a worry if > you already had it. I haven't taken any of those. I've really just been trying to go by diet. > Hrm. I dunno. I guess this is just more I need to ask the specialist > about when I see him. I think one of the hardest things is that it is so individual!! > Walking is what I do. I just seem to get achy, but the bnefit is better > than the drawbacks. Walking after meal is recommeded. It helps the digestion. If I have to sit for long hours after a heavy meal, I will get a belly ache. That's what happened to me on Sat. > I'd sure try to do it with food as opposed to supplements (though it feels > like you are eating All. The .Time. I agree that food may be better than supplemetns. Try the bran buds cereal. Just add it to your favourite cereal. It has psyllium, the stuff in Metamucil. Canned pumpkin also has a lot of fibre. Rusty gets a spoonful every day to help with hairball. I don't know how to eat it myself, so I just add it to my pancake mix to make pumpkin pancakes. >> She also said that eating a bran cereal would help, and that it would >> help 'bulk up' ... you know. Odd, I thought insoluble fiber like bran >> was only good for C, not D. That's what I've been told too. When I was on a liquid diet after jaw surgery, I have to take Metamucil to 'bulk up'. Metamucil also helps soften the stool so gas can be passed out. Sorry its kind of gross. But I have stopped taking it and have the bran bud cereal. > For me at least, and from the reading I've done, it seems a key is to have > *both* at the same time. So if I am going to have a high fiber or [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I haven't taken any of those. I've really just been trying to go by diet. I just massage my belly with peppermint essential oil and drink ginger tea. Winnie >> Hrm. I dunno. I guess this is just more I need to ask the specialist >> about when I see him. > > I think one of the hardest things is that it is so individual!! Purrs on the way. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ see pictures of Sam at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ann791/my_photos >I spent the night mostly on the porcelain throne, waiting for > something to happen. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > ever have on that trail. So how is it that a few hours later, I was > moaning and groaning and wanting someone to put me out of my misery? > Purrs on the way. Ann Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Have you seen a gynecologist? I had similar problems which my regular doctor thought was IBS and it turned out to be endometriosis and an ovarian cyst. Found it during a yearly exam. Endometriosis is found by blood tests and my cyst was found by a sonogram. Purrs coming. Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (now doesn't that feel good?) Cantate > Have you seen a gynecologist? I had similar problems which my > regular doctor thought was IBS and it turned out to be endometriosis > and an ovarian cyst. Found it during a yearly exam. Endometriosis > is found by blood tests and my cyst was found by a sonogram. Not yet. I'd imagine a specialist who sees a lot of abdominal cases would surely think of checking that. We'll see how it goes. I always went to a gyn for my yearly when I lived in VA. When I moved out here, none of the doctors within 20 miles on my insurance plan were board certified GYNs (!) ... somehow I eventually ended up choosing my current doctor, and get my yearly stuff through her. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Have you seen a gynecologist? I had similar problems which my >> regular doctor thought was IBS and it turned out to be endometriosis [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > were board certified GYNs (!) ... somehow I eventually ended up > choosing my current doctor, and get my yearly stuff through her. Once or twice in the past I had a cyst found by routine ultrasound. In those times I had no pain or any discomfort in my belly. Of course everyone is different. If the GI doc can't find anything wrong, then maybe you should ask for an ultrasound and the blood test mentioned. My gyn went south to U.S, but my GP managed to find another for me. I have to wait several months to see her though. But since it is just another routine checkup, I don't mind the wait. Winnie > If your kitties aren't sick of me, I wouldn't mind some purrs that my > doctor can actually help me figure out what's wrong and how to fix it. Lots and lots of purrs on the way. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > Lots and lots of purrs on the way. Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Yay! I was able to sleep through the night last night! What a difference that makes. I'm ready to face the day, now. I'm not exactly sure why I was able to do that, but I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth (and I know by now that just because I feel well now doesn't mean I'll feel fine all day). Some things that did change: Upped my doses of fiber supplement considerably on my dr's advice Didn't take any peppermint capsules And ... my massage therapist asked if she could try a homeopathic remedy on me. She's studying homeopathy, and she admitted she hadn't truly "taken my case" (interviewed me to get the full picture), but I've been seeing her weekly for months now, and we talk a lot, and she had a hunch. She gave me Lycopodium. I don't know how much I buy into homeopathy, but maybe it helped. I felt nauseous last night, but my belly has felt better *knock on wood*. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Yay! > > I was able to sleep through the night last night! What a difference > that makes. I'm ready to face the day, now. That's good news and a good attitude. > I'm not exactly sure why I was able to do that, but I'm not looking a > gift horse in the mouth (and I know by now that just because I feel > well now doesn't mean I'll feel fine all day). Just savour the moment, and don't worry what may or may not come. > Some things that did change: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > into homeopathy, but maybe it helped. I felt nauseous last night, but > my belly has felt better *knock on wood*. Weekly massage?! I envy you. Even when I was working and the insurance paid for massage, I only got monthly massages. Did she massage your belly? I found that soothing to my tummy, especially with essential oil like ginger, peppermin, and/or rosemary. Purrs contined to come your way. Winnie > Weekly massage?! I envy you. Even when I was working and the > insurance paid for massage, I only got monthly massages. Did she > massage your belly? I found that soothing to my tummy, especially > with essential oil like ginger, peppermin, and/or rosemary. Don't envy me ... the reason I'm getting them is because of my right wrist, which has been screwed up for about three years now. They are not covered by my insurance; I'm paying for them out of my own pocket (well, mine and DH's). I can use my FSA to pay for them, which saves me a few dollars in taxes, but overall, I'd rather my wrist be functional and not need the massages. The massages do seem to help -- my range of motion has definitely improved, to the point where that's not a problem -- the problem is that my wrist still hurts when I get to the end of that range, a lot, which it shouldn't. The last several have been more belly-centric for obvious reasons. She used lavender yesterday, which smelled nice. She said peppermint can interfere with the homeopathic remedy she was trying on me. > Purrs contined to come your way. Thank you! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Don't envy me ... the reason I'm getting them is because of my right > wrist, which has been screwed up for about three years now. They are [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > not a problem -- the problem is that my wrist still hurts when I get > to the end of that range, a lot, which it shouldn't. Have you tried accupuncture on your wrist? Did you have an injury? I had repeated stress syndrome on my hand 3 times. I played the piano and use the computer a lot. The last time the physiotherapist used accupuncture and it helped a lot. Same with my shoulder bursitis. > The last several have been more belly-centric for obvious reasons. > > She used lavender yesterday, which smelled nice. She said peppermint > can interfere with the homeopathic remedy she was trying on me. Lavender is so relaxing. I put a few drops on my temples when I get a headache. I stopped taking aspirin for headaches. Winnie >> Purrs contined to come your way. > > Thank you! > Have you tried accupuncture on your wrist? Did you have an injury? > I had repeated stress syndrome on my hand 3 times. I played the > piano and use the computer a lot. The last time the physiotherapist > used accupuncture and it helped a lot. Same with my shoulder > bursitis. Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my belly became such an issue that we're focusing on that. I actually have an appt with him today. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both > needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my > belly became such an issue that we're focusing on that. What is moxabustion? Winnie > I actually have an appt with him today. >> Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both >> needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my >> belly became such an issue that we're focusing on that. > > What is moxabustion? This looks like a good page on it: http://www.ancientway.com/Pages/Moxabustion.html My acupuncturist does direct moxabustion with ointment between the burning mugwort and the skin: "Moxibustion, or Moxa for short, is an ancient form of heat therapy. Moxa uses the ground up leaves of the plant Mugwort (Artemesia vulgaris). These are either rolled into sticks for indirect moxa, or the powdery substance is made into tiny cones and burned on ointment or a ginger slice. That is called direct moxa. In Chinese, the term for acupuncture is "Zhen Jiu." The "Zhen" means "needle," and the "Jiu" means "moxa."" Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca I used google to find the Chinese terms for Moxibustion and Artemesia. It took some digging. There is also another technique called cupping which was done on my shoulders once. A heated cup or jar was put on the body to suck out the toxin. It left a bruise behind. There were pictures of movie stars with such bruises on their back. Turned out cupping was, and probably still is, fairly poplular among the celebrities. Winnie >>> Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both >>> needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > for acupuncture is "Zhen Jiu." The "Zhen" means "needle," and the > "Jiu" means "moxa."" > I used google to find the Chinese terms for Moxibustion and Artemesia. > It took some digging. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Turned out cupping was, and probably still is, fairly poplular among the > celebrities. I haven't gotten cupping (yet?). Did it help you? Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> I used google to find the Chinese terms for Moxibustion and Artemesia. >> It took some digging. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I haven't gotten cupping (yet?). Did it help you? I only got it done once, and it felt good afterwards. But I don't like the bruises. Winnie >>Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both >>needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Winnie Well she lives in Canada with Smokey and the bitties and loves to attack busts. Monique is in grave danger if the Nox gets her. Pam S. tongue firmly in cheek >>>Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both >>>needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Pam S. tongue firmly in cheek Took me a while to get that one. I didn't realize Nox attacks busts. Now I'm scared! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>>>Yes; I recently started going to an acupuncturist. He did both >>>>needle-type acupuncture and moxabustion for my wrist. But then my [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Took me a while to get that one. I didn't realize Nox attacks busts. > Now I'm scared! You should be. From what I understand, Nox will attack anything she can't get to obey her, so unless you have very obedient busts, I suggest that you hide out for a long while. Pam S. who's tongue is almost poking out of her cheek > Yay! > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > into homeopathy, but maybe it helped. I felt nauseous last night, but > my belly has felt better *knock on wood*. Glad to hear you got some rest. Purrs on the way that the problems get sorted out quickly. SignatureSam, closely supervised by Mistletoe > Glad to hear you got some rest. Purrs on the way that the problems > get sorted out quickly. Thank you. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Because of the pain I was in all night and the constant > throne-sitting, I took a sick day today. I feel slightly better now. > It used to be that my belly hurt all evening on work days. Then it > just hurt all the time. Now it hurts all night, preventing me from > sleeping (which I believe is a sign that it might *not* be IBS -- IBS > criteria specifically say it shouldn't keep you up at night). I don't know whose criteria that is, but when I have bouts of IBS I definitely can't sleep at night. Pain doesn't abate just because it's bedtime. My doctor prescribed something for the "cramping". During a bout of IBS, things are also much eased by dietary restrictions; we're talking very bland food (like the BRAT diet - Bananas, rice, applesauce, tea). No dairy; basically no fat. Plain rice, plain baked or boiled potatoes. Dry toast. No spices. You get the picture. As one who loves to cook I can tell you the prospect of the next flair-up is never very exciting. Purrs that your trip to the GI specialist will be able to figure this out. I just hope it's not diverticulitis. Not to be an alarmist but that may require surgery. When John had it done he said he'd rather have had his quintuple bypass any day. Jill |
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