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CATherine - 07 Oct 2004 04:48 GMT
The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!

The bronchitis i had last month was pretty bad and the last of it
never left me. I was plagued with a constant bronchial rattle. Then
one day I was driving to the next client and smoking and coughing.
Then, for some reason, I looked at my cigarette and asked myself "What
am i doing? This tastes like sh*t!"

I have known for years the bad effects of ciggies; but always
rationalized it away by telling myself I enjoyed the taste of tobacco.
But that day I realized it had been a long time since a ciggie tasted
like tobacco, and I was not enjoying smoking or hacking my lungs out.
My smoking was an addictive habit; kind of like pavlov's dog. So I
told myself, "I'm going to do it! I am going to quit" So I stubbed the
cigarette out and that was it. I haven't had one since.

I gave the remainder of my cigarettes to my son and told him my
decision. Then I told him I wasn't buying any more; not even for him.
He agreed and said he would use the two packs to taper off. Well, by
now we are smoke-free. And I am done with the bronchial rattle.

But I talked with a nurse at work and she said after 40 years damage,
I would be coughing up sh*t from my lungs a long time. But it is just
an occasional loose cough. And i am able to breathe deeper already
than I have in years.

I even went through the house and gathered up all the many ashtrays
and cleaned them and packed them away for my spring yard sale. Except
for a couple decorative ones that don't really look like ashtrays. I
cleaned my car and sprayed it thoroughly with Odo-Ban.

Now, over the next few months, as I have time, I need to clean house
bit by bit. I realize the smell of tar and ashes is ingrained in the
carpet, curtains and sofa, etc. I am so used to it I don't even smell
it--yet. Once the crap is finally cleaned out of my body, I will
probably regain my sense of smell. And taste.

Oh, No!! What have I done? I love food even without a sense of smell
and not much taste. What is going to happen when the tar and nicotine
is gone? I am going to balloon, is what!! Let me tell you, the
addiction to ciggies is nothing compared to the addiction to tasty
food! ;-))  

I stopped at Safeway on the way home tonight. They had my favorite on
sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!

--
CATherine
Jeanne Hedge - 07 Oct 2004 05:03 GMT
Congratulations!

My grandmother quit as you have, cold turkey, and was rightly quite
proud of it.  Afterward though, she said she wished she hadn't been
forced to quit (she quit after having a heart attack), not because she
missed smoking but because she thought people who quit because they
wanted to (instead of being forced to do so) had achieved an even
greater accomplishment!

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

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Yowie - 07 Oct 2004 05:37 GMT
> Congratulations!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> wanted to (instead of being forced to do so) had achieved an even
> greater accomplishment!

Your grandmother quit because she *wanted* to, as well. Sure, she was told
of the consequences etc etc of what would happen if she didn't, but unless
something phsyically prevented her from putting a cigarette in her mouth,
lighting it up, and inhaling, then her victory is just as good as everyone
elses. After all, there are plenty of people out there who have had heart
attack after heart attack and still keeping puffing away regardless.

Yowie
Jeanne Hedge - 08 Oct 2004 00:52 GMT
>Your grandmother quit because she *wanted* to, as well. Sure, she was told
>of the consequences etc etc of what would happen if she didn't, but unless
>something phsyically prevented her from putting a cigarette in her mouth,
>lighting it up, and inhaling, then her victory is just as good as everyone
>elses. After all, there are plenty of people out there who have had heart
>attack after heart attack and still keeping puffing away regardless.

I understand what you're saying, but I guess you had to know my
granny. While, as you say, she was indeed the one who chose to quit,
she really did tell people that she was forced into it, and I believe
she believed that.

Taking a guess, I suspect she didn't think not quitting was a viable
option, therefore she was forced to take the option of quitting.

Forced or not, we were all happy she did quit after 40+ years of heavy
smoking. She was with us for almost 20 years more, and mostly in good
health too.

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

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CATherine - 08 Oct 2004 12:49 GMT
>>Your grandmother quit because she *wanted* to, as well. Sure, she was told
>>of the consequences etc etc of what would happen if she didn't, but unless
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>smoking. She was with us for almost 20 years more, and mostly in good
>health too.

I can understand your Granny. It is a different thing quitting because
you have to and because your mind and body are in sync about wanting
to. BTDT. Being forced or coerced leaves a feeling fo resentment, like
the power over your own life has been taken away from you.

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CATherine
Adrian - 08 Oct 2004 13:52 GMT
>> Congratulations!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Yowie

About 15 years ago there was a story on television of a woman aged 102,
she decided to give up smoking because it was bad for her health. :-)
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CATherine - 08 Oct 2004 12:44 GMT
>Congratulations!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>wanted to (instead of being forced to do so) had achieved an even
>greater accomplishment!

I have tried to quit several times; but always failed after a bit. I
think it was because I tried to quit for the "right" reasons or to
please someone or because some people were always nagging me. But this
time was MY decision; because I WANTED to! Several times i have told
myself i would quit when the doctor said "quit or die"! Hmm,,,I have
also said that many times about my consumption of fat and cholesterol!
Well, some day; better to work on one battle at a time.

--
CATherine
William Hamblen - 08 Oct 2004 08:41 GMT
>I have tried to quit several times; but always failed after a bit. I
>think it was because I tried to quit for the "right" reasons or to
>please someone or because some people were always nagging me.

My father stopped smoking after breaking a rib in an automobile
accident.  When he smoked he coughed and when he coughed the rib
*hurt*.  I have an 8 pound sledge hammer and I will travel in case you
*really* want to stop smoking. :)
CATherine - 10 Oct 2004 03:51 GMT
>>I have tried to quit several times; but always failed after a bit. I
>>think it was because I tried to quit for the "right" reasons or to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>*hurt*.  I have an 8 pound sledge hammer and I will travel in case you
>*really* want to stop smoking. :)

Uh, No thanks! I have already quit and i assure you most emphatically
that i will not backslide! Besides, i have already had a foretaste. A
couple years ago i fell with my elbow pinned under me. i could swear I
had broken my ribs; but it was called "chest wall contusion". The
inside of my chest wall over the ribs must have looked like a meat
grinder had been at it the way it felt. And I remember how bad it hurt
to cough. And laugh. My smoking at that time was very shallow and
infrequent.

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CATherine
CatNipped - 08 Oct 2004 14:12 GMT
> I have tried to quit several times; but always failed after a bit. I
> think it was because I tried to quit for the "right" reasons or to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> --
> CATherine

It helps if you quit "for" something rather than to prevent something (we
humans always think bad things aren't going to happen to *us*, always to
someone else).  My DH and I figured we were spending over $400 a month on
cigarettes!!!  At that time we wanted to buy a house but thought we couldn't
afford the mortgage - *until* we figured in that extra $400 a month.  Then,
of course, once we got the house we couldn't go back to smoking because the
money for cigarettes wasn't there any more, it was going into our house
instead.

Hugs,

CatNipped
CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 04:32 GMT
>> I have tried to quit several times; but always failed after a bit. I
>> think it was because I tried to quit for the "right" reasons or to
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>CatNipped

Wow! That's a lot of ciggies! And nothing to show for it but bad
health. Now, since you have quit, your lungs are ok and you have a
house to show for the same amount of money. That was Heaven at work in
your lives. A good decision.

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CATherine
CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 15:37 GMT
> Wow! That's a lot of ciggies! And nothing to show for it but bad
> health. Now, since you have quit, your lungs are ok and you have a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> CATherine

Yep, cigarettes here in Houston are around $4.00 per pack.  My DH was
smoking 3 packs a day and I was smoking 1 pack a day - that was $16.00 per
day going up in smoke.  Whenever I feel the urge for a cigarette I imagine
taking a dollar bill, rolling it up, and setting it on fire - because that's
basically what you're doing when you smoke (that and, as you said, ruining
your health - but that was never a motivator for me because, like I said,
humans tend to think bad things will always happen to someone else, never to
themselves).

Hugs,

CatNipped
Yowie - 07 Oct 2004 05:34 GMT
Well done Catherine!!!!!!!

Its great to finally hear of something worth well and truly celebrating her
ein RPCA, we've had such bad news recently.

yeaa-haaah, and way to go!

And enjoy those choccies.

Yowie

> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> --
> CATherine
CATherine - 08 Oct 2004 12:54 GMT
>Well done Catherine!!!!!!!
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Yowie

Thanks, Yowie. And I certainly will enjoy the ice cream! :-))  With
such a reward awaiting me each day or so, I think it will make the
self-control over the craving easier.

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CATherine
O J - 08 Oct 2004 20:31 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------
>>yeaa-haaah, and way to go!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>such a reward awaiting me each day or so, I think it will make the
>self-control over the craving easier.

I don't attribute the all the events that ensued to my giving up
smoking.  I've had a weight problem, make that a terrible weight
problem, all my life.  I was in one of my thin periods when I gave  up
cigarettes, and the fact remains that after I gave up smoking I very
slowly doubled my weight.  

Enjoy the ice cream, you deserve it.  However, may I gently suggest
that you try to limit any weight gain to twenty pounds or so.  Most
folks who quit seem to put on that much, and the eventual loss of it
seems to be no more or no  less difficult than any other twenty pounds
for any other reason.

Regards and Purrs,
O J

PS:  I hesitate to send this as I don't want to be a wet blanket.
Still, I hope you will think that a small cautionary tale is not too
far out of place.  O J
CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 04:38 GMT
>---------------------<snip>----------------------
>>>yeaa-haaah, and way to go!
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>Still, I hope you will think that a small cautionary tale is not too
>far out of place.  O J

You are not a wet blanket. I was just discussing the ice cream with a
friend today. The fact that it is made with pure cream with zillions
of fat and cholesterol. And I have decided that I will only have some
maybe once a week when i need a boost after a very hard day. And that
I will eat it only in one of my very old, very small dessert bowls.

Well, I have a weight problem, too. Suffice it to say that an extra 20
pounds wouldn't be too noticeable on me. :-/  

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CATherine
CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 15:43 GMT
> You are not a wet blanket. I was just discussing the ice cream with a
> friend today. The fact that it is made with pure cream with zillions
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> --
> CATherine

Don't "count" on gaining weight - I thought I would after I quit smoking
(this was before my surgery), but I found that I actually *lost* a bit of
weight.  I think it was because, for me, the most urgent need to smoke was
after I ate so I avoided eating as much as possible so that I wouldn't feel
that urge to smoke.

I think Baha's tip about flavored lip gloss is an *excellent* idea!

BTW, I think fat, calories, and cholesterol are the things nature puts in
food to make it taste good!!! ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
CATherine - 10 Oct 2004 04:02 GMT
>> You are not a wet blanket. I was just discussing the ice cream with a
>> friend today. The fact that it is made with pure cream with zillions
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>CatNipped

I wouldn't like the flavoreds lip gloss. And after a meal, when I
really want a ciggie, I suck a few pretzels. It really does the trick
for me. But I also often keep myself busy. for instance, I have been
digging in the back of the large coat closet. I have found things i
forgot about, things I have no idea where they came from,and a lot of
stuff for my spring yard sale. I haven't been this industrious for
many years. I think I am burning quite a few excess claories.

Ahh! You mention my favorite food groups; although you left out
chocolate. For me the ideal diet is high protein, high fat, high
carbs,...aw heck with the details. Just make it high every thing that
tastes good. ;-D

--
CATherine
Marina - 07 Oct 2004 05:46 GMT
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
> way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!

YAY! Good on ya, Catherine!!

> The bronchitis i had last month was pretty bad and the last of it
> never left me. I was plagued with a constant bronchial rattle. Then
> one day I was driving to the next client and smoking and coughing.
> Then, for some reason, I looked at my cigarette and asked myself "What
> am i doing? This tastes like sh*t!"

Exactly what I told my last ciggie before stubbing it out ten years ago.
Now I know you are serious, because when that realisation hits you,
there is no going back.
<snippage>

> I gave the remainder of my cigarettes to my son and told him my
> decision.

I gave the remainder to a coworker. Can't have any temptations lying around.

> But I talked with a nurse at work and she said after 40 years damage,
> I would be coughing up sh*t from my lungs a long time. But it is just
> an occasional loose cough. And i am able to breathe deeper already
> than I have in years.

About a week after I quit, I had this prickly sensation in my gums, as
if they had been numb and were coming out of it.

> Oh, No!! What have I done? I love food even without a sense of smell
> and not much taste. What is going to happen when the tar and nicotine
> is gone? I am going to balloon, is what!! Let me tell you, the
> addiction to ciggies is nothing compared to the addiction to tasty
> food! ;-))  

I did put on a lot of weight after I quit, so I don't really have any
advice. :oP Maybe since you can feel the taste and smell better, you
will be able to make do with less?

> I stopped at Safeway on the way home tonight. They had my favorite on
> sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
> course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!

You've earned it! Only don't go on rewarding yourself in this way. ;o)

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CATherine - 08 Oct 2004 13:13 GMT
>YAY! Good on ya, Catherine!!

Thanks so much!

>> I looked at my cigarette and asked myself "What
>> am i doing? This tastes like sh*t!"
>
>Exactly what I told my last ciggie before stubbing it out ten years ago.
>Now I know you are serious, because when that realisation hits you,
>there is no going back.

I think the lack of that realization is why so many people fail to
quit. I know i never reached that point every other time I tried to
quit.

>> I gave the remainder of my cigarettes to my son and told him my
>> decision.
>
>I gave the remainder to a coworker. Can't have any temptations lying around.

YES!! I am glad I live 11 miles from the nearest town and when i am in
the city I am too rushed to "drop in" to a convenience store for a
pack. I also have had trouble the last couple years affording them.
And it is going to get worse, soon. I just heard the state is going to
add eighty-four cents a pack! Whew!! i quit just in time! Now I can
apply more money to my bills.

>> But I talked with a nurse at work and she said after 40 years damage,
>> I would be coughing up sh*t from my lungs a long time. But it is just
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>About a week after I quit, I had this prickly sensation in my gums, as
>if they had been numb and were coming out of it.

Well, it is early days yet. After 40 years, the effects could be
spread out over several weeks as my body tries to clean itself up. I
was already showing bad circulation in my feet and legs.

>> Oh, No!! What have I done? I love food even without a sense of smell
>> and not much taste. What is going to happen when the tar and nicotine
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>advice. :oP Maybe since you can feel the taste and smell better, you
>will be able to make do with less?

I hadn't thought of that. That is a good idea.

>> I stopped at Safeway on the way home tonight. They had my favorite on
>> sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
>> course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!
>
>You've earned it! Only don't go on rewarding yourself in this way. ;o)

Oh, No! I won't! <looking wide-eyed and innocent> 8-D  Actually, it is
too expensive.

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CATherine
Yoj - 07 Oct 2004 06:27 GMT
Congratulations to you and your son!

--
Joy

"You can never do a kindness too soon because you never know how soon it
will be too late." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> --
> CATherine
CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 05:24 GMT
>Congratulations to you and your son!

Thanks to all my good friends for the congratulations. I am hoping all
the purrs will keep us from backsliding.

I am trying to answer all the messages but am having trouble what with
having to work for a living. Darn! When are they going to invent the
4-day workweek? I am hoping tomorrow to catch up.

Still smoke-free; but i am still occasionally craving one. But I talk
to myself sternly. ;-)

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CATherine
Lisa Katt - 09 Oct 2004 12:10 GMT
CATherine skrev i meddelandet
<80qem0dl7nsesara04p7kvvcjbbr454nlv@4ax.com>...
>Thanks to all my good friends for the congratulations. I am hoping all
>the purrs will keep us from backsliding.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>--
>CATherine

Good girl, CATherine!
And just think how much better it is for your fur family that they do not
have to inhale all that smoke!
Purrs for your perseverance
from Elisabet and Hugo Katt
CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 15:48 GMT
> Good girl, CATherine!
> And just think how much better it is for your fur family that they do not
> have to inhale all that smoke!
> Purrs for your perseverance
> from Elisabet and Hugo Katt

There was also a study done that cats who lived with smokers had a higher
percentage of getting lymphoma.  Anyone who smokes knows that the nicotine
and tar (the things in cigarettes that cause cancer) gets on every surface
in your house - my "brown" drapes were actually white after washing.  Well,
that tar and nicotine settles on cats' fur and then they lick it off.  The
cats who live with smokers are ingesting nicotine and tar against their will
every time they lick themselves!

Hugs,

CatNipped
CATherine - 10 Oct 2004 04:07 GMT
>> Good girl, CATherine!
>> And just think how much better it is for your fur family that they do not
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>CatNipped

OMG!! I never thought about that! I was just concerned about them
inhaling it. But what about smoke and ashes from a wood stove? That is
our only source of heat. Although, come to think of it, most of the
smoke and ash goes up the chimney.

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CATherine
CATherine - 10 Oct 2004 04:02 GMT
>CATherine skrev i meddelandet
><80qem0dl7nsesara04p7kvvcjbbr454nlv@4ax.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Purrs for your perseverance
>from Elisabet and Hugo Katt

Yup! That is one sure way to get a cat out of my face and off my
keyboard, etc...Amber hated me smoking. I hope he is looking down from
Heaven to see me quitting.

--
CATherine
Tanada - 10 Oct 2004 20:27 GMT
> Thanks to all my good friends for the congratulations. I am hoping all
> the purrs will keep us from backsliding.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Still smoke-free; but i am still occasionally craving one. But I talk
> to myself sternly. ;-)

Hang in there, Catherine.  If a three pack a day person like me could
quit, you can do it too.  I had the same reaction just before I quit.
One day I woke up, sniffed, took a look around, and thought, "What on
earth am I doing to myself?"  I haven't smoked in eight years.

Pam S. encouraging the cats to purr and thinking anti-smoking thoughts
for you.
Bob M - 11 Oct 2004 17:20 GMT
> > Thanks to all my good friends for the congratulations. I am hoping all
> > the purrs will keep us from backsliding.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > Still smoke-free; but i am still occasionally craving one. But I talk
> > to myself sternly. ;-)

I quit too 18 years ago. But I had only smoked for a year before I quit.
I was on vacation in Reno, Nevada and was putting quarters into a one
armed bandit. Then it hit me. I told myself no more smoking and I quit
cold turkey. I did carry around a bag of Brachs cinnamon candies for
almost a year. Everytime I had the urge to smoke I'd pop in a candy. A
year after I quit I did buy a pack in a moment of weakness. I lit 1 up
and got so sick on the first drag that I threw the rest in the
fireplace. And that was it. I haven't smoked since. Good luck and
congrats on quitting!

Bob
Steve Touchstone - 07 Oct 2004 06:40 GMT
>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
>way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!

ConCatulations - I made the same decision a couple months ago. I think
it does help (some at least) if you quit when a little sick. I have
tried to quit several times in the past, but this time was maybe a
little easier because I had a head cold at the time. Like you say, I
thought I enjoyed the cigarett taste, but of coure you don't enjoy
them when you have a cold.

Folks tell me that you keep wanting them for years, and that may be
true since I still find myself reaching for once every so often. I
backslid and bought a pack one I was over my cold and was half way
through the pack before I knew it. Taught me something, I can't just
smoke a little. Threw away the remainder when I realized that I had
only actually enjoyed a couple, but had smoked ten.

Good luck staying off the evil weed. Like I said, it's only been a
couple months for me, but I'm determined to stay off them this time.

One last word, in the past when I stopped for awhile I gained weight.
This time I sucked on hard candy (sugarless) and so far haven't put on
any weight.
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Yoj - 07 Oct 2004 06:56 GMT
Congratulations to you too, Steve!  I'm always happy when one of my
friends quit smoking.  My husband didn't quit until he was diagnosed
with lung cancer.  By then it was too late.  He has been gone for 18
years, so no messages of sympathy are needed.  However, if this message,
combined with those from people who have quit, inspires anybody else to
quit, that will make me very, very happy.

--
Joy

"You can never do a kindness too soon because you never know how soon it
will be too late." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

> >The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> >everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
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polonca12000 - 07 Oct 2004 10:06 GMT
That's wonderful, Steve! Congrats!
Best wishes,
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> ConCatulations - I made the same decision a couple months ago. I think
> it does help (some at least) if you quit when a little sick. I have
> tried to quit several times in the past, but this time was maybe a
> little easier because I had a head cold at the time. Like you say, I
> thought I enjoyed the cigarett taste, but of coure you don't enjoy
> them when you have a cold.
<snip
Elise - 07 Oct 2004 23:37 GMT
> ConCatulations - I made the same decision a couple months ago. I think
> it does help (some at least) if you quit when a little sick. I have
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Folks tell me that you keep wanting them for years, and that may be
> true since I still find myself reaching for once every so often.

I quit using a nicotine patch because after one day cold turkey DH (who
hated my smoking) went out and bought me a pack.
Months later I still would reach for a cigarette but I realized that it
wasn't because I wanted one, it was the habit of having a cigarette in
whatever situation.  Most often it would be an automatic reach for a smoke
while driving.

So just remember to ask yourself when you reach for one if it's because you
*want* to smoke it or because that's what you're used to doing at that time.

And Congratulations!!

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(supervised by Gossamer & Jeeves)
dragonandthistle at snet dot net

Singh - 08 Oct 2004 03:47 GMT
> >The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> >everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> smoke a little. Threw away the remainder when I realized that I had
> only actually enjoyed a couple, but had smoked ten.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. I still want a cigarette after 4
years, and quite frequently. My job stresses me out and it seems a
Pavlovian reaction. I wrote prolifically before I quit. After, I had such
an intertwining of smoking and writing that I didn't pick it back up until
around 6 months ago. The writing I mean, not smoking. Of course, this now
means that I have a ton of flavored lipgloss around the house next to
every notebook. It's the one luxury Louie doesn't bitch about. He'd rather
have me blow my dough on a little Bonne Bell than on a pack of Benson &
Hedges.
I think it's like being an alcoholic. Despite what Big Tobacco has had to
say, the urge doesn't leave.

CNN today said a former Big Tobacco scientist testified in court that they
had the means of making a safer cigarette and sat on it. God forbid they
release it to the public after so much lying, so many deaths. The
sonofabitches.

Blessed be,
Baha
CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 04:45 GMT
>>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
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>This time I sucked on hard candy (sugarless) and so far haven't put on
>any weight.

I was just talking the other day with an elderly man that had quit
many years ago. he said he still had the craving. But he exercises
stern control because he knows if he breaks down, he will go all the
way. I feel that way about myself. I could taper off like my son did.
I couldn't limit myself toone or two a day. I am either all or
nothing. When the cravings hit me I stick a small pretzel stick in my
mouth. It helps with the finger habit, sucking on something, and the
right length. And I enjoy the salt. I don't like hard sugar candy.

--
CATherine
CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 15:48 GMT
> I was just talking the other day with an elderly man that had quit
> many years ago. he said he still had the craving. But he exercises
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> --
> CATherine

I use those little plastic coffee stirrer straws.  I chew on them all day
long (I joke that it was easier for me to give up cigarettes than it is to
give up my straw habit!).

Hugs,

CatNipped
CATherine - 10 Oct 2004 04:12 GMT
>> I was just talking the other day with an elderly man that had quit
>> many years ago. he said he still had the craving. But he exercises
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>
>CatNipped

At least straws aren't putting tar and nicotine into you. I hope you
aren't ingesting tiny amounts of plastic by chewing. May be the solids
of it might pass through the body; but in the process of chewing or
digesting, cancer-causing chemicals might be released from the
plastic. It seems to me I read something of that sort off the Net last
summer.

--
CATherine
O J - 10 Oct 2004 09:58 GMT
>At least straws aren't putting tar and nicotine into you. I hope you
>aren't ingesting tiny amounts of plastic by chewing. May be the solids
>of it might pass through the body; but in the process of chewing or
>digesting, cancer-causing chemicals might be released from the
>plastic. It seems to me I read something of that sort off the Net last
>summer.

You probably did.  About a year ago California became the first of
several states to ban  the substance DHEP.  I wouldn't worry too much.
The chemical in question, a plasticizer, seems to have been generally
replaced.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
lewe - 07 Oct 2004 09:29 GMT
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
> way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!
<>

Good for you! Congratulations on your decision!
=)

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polonca12000 - 07 Oct 2004 10:05 GMT
I'm so very happy for you and for your son, CATherine. My father and my
grandfather both died of cancer because they smoked, so it means a lot to me
when people quit before it's too late.
Congrats and best wishes,
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> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
> way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!
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CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 04:57 GMT
>I'm so very happy for you and for your son, CATherine. My father and my
>grandfather both died of cancer because they smoked, so it means a lot to me
>when people quit before it's too late.
>Congrats and best wishes,

Thanks for the congratulations. But, our decision was almost too late.
I am already showing signs of poor circulation in my feet and still
have a load of tar in my lungs to cough up. The worst thing is that 3
years ago my idiot son took to smoking cigars like you would
cigarettes. But they are so much more powerful than cigarettes. He
ended up having a mild stroke at the age of 34!! It scared him badly.
He slowed way down on smoking for a long time, especially on cigars.
But this last year he got to smoking heavy. I am glad he made the
decision to quit with me.

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CATherine
polonca12000 - 09 Oct 2004 14:30 GMT
They say that almost all health problems connected with smoking get much
better if you stop smoking in time. It does take time to achieve that, but
nevertheless I think it's worth it.
Continued purrs and best wishes for you and your son,
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> Thanks for the congratulations. But, our decision was almost too late.
> I am already showing signs of poor circulation in my feet and still
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> CATherine
CATherine - 10 Oct 2004 04:22 GMT
>They say that almost all health problems connected with smoking get much
>better if you stop smoking in time. It does take time to achieve that, but
>nevertheless I think it's worth it.
>Continued purrs and best wishes for you and your son,

You know, I think the poor circulation in my feet is getting better.
The coloring of the skin looks pinker and the darker splotchy areas
are rosier instead of mauve.

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CATherine
polonca12000 - 10 Oct 2004 10:08 GMT
That's wonderful!
Continued purrs and best wishes,
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> You know, I think the poor circulation in my feet is getting better.
> The coloring of the skin looks pinker and the darker splotchy areas
> are rosier instead of mauve.
>
> --
> CATherine

> >They say that almost all health problems connected with smoking get much
> >better if you stop smoking in time. It does take time to achieve that, but
> >nevertheless I think it's worth it.
> >Continued purrs and best wishes for you and your son,
Victor Martinez - 07 Oct 2004 13:07 GMT
Congratulations! And welcome to the club!

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Christine Burel - 07 Oct 2004 13:24 GMT
Absolutely awesome, CATherine. I've never smoked but my parents did and I
know how hard it was for them both to quit.  I'm proud of you and your son!
hugs,
Christine
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> --
> CATherine
Nan - 07 Oct 2004 14:11 GMT
>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
>course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!

Congratulations!  

Re: weight gain because everything tastes and smells so good now.  Try
sucking on sugar free candy when you feel the urge to eat.
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CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 05:03 GMT
>>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
>>way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!

<<<snip>>>
>>Oh, No!! What have I done? I love food even without a sense of smell
>>and not much taste. What is going to happen when the tar and nicotine
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Re: weight gain because everything tastes and smells so good now.  Try
>sucking on sugar free candy when you feel the urge to eat.

Right now I am sucking and chewing on pretzel sticks. I don't like
hard candy. But I sometimes eat peanut butter on graham crackers. A
little of that is very satisfying and rather healthy. Not too much fat
and sugar. Thanks for the congratulations.

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CATherine
Lisa Katt - 09 Oct 2004 12:18 GMT
CATherine skrev i meddelandet
<9noem0dv53ocifv2bdj1u7qmi40579omcr@4ax.com>...

>Right now I am sucking and chewing on pretzel sticks. I don't like
>hard candy. But I sometimes eat peanut butter on graham crackers. A
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>--
>CATherine

I sometimes eat an unsalted rice cake with a very, very, very thin spread of
jam. It tastes as good as a cookie with a cup of coffee.
Elisabet
CatNipped - 07 Oct 2004 14:13 GMT
YAY  CATherine!!!  Good on you girl!!!!!  I quit in August of 2003 after
smoking for almost 30 years.  Just keep hanging in there, it gets easier the
longer you go without.

Hugs,

CatNipped

> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> --
> CATherine
CATherine - 09 Oct 2004 05:14 GMT
>YAY  CATherine!!!  Good on you girl!!!!!  I quit in August of 2003 after
>smoking for almost 30 years.  Just keep hanging in there, it gets easier the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>CatNipped

I think my body is beginning to get desperate for nicotiene. I think
some of that is my stress level...and conditioning. I sure am glad I
am off for the weekend so I can relax. So many people on the ng have
quit. What a wonderful support group! :-)

--
CATherine
Steve Touchstone - 09 Oct 2004 05:56 GMT
>I think my body is beginning to get desperate for nicotiene. I think
>some of that is my stress level...and conditioning. I sure am glad I
>am off for the weekend so I can relax. So many people on the ng have
>quit. What a wonderful support group! :-)
Hang in there. I thought days 3-4 were the worst for me.
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polonca12000 - 09 Oct 2004 14:32 GMT
Can you get some nicotine gum? That has helped many people to stop smoking.
Best wishes,
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> I think my body is beginning to get desperate for nicotiene. I think
> some of that is my stress level...and conditioning. I sure am glad I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> CATherine

> >YAY  CATherine!!!  Good on you girl!!!!!  I quit in August of 2003 after
> >smoking for almost 30 years.  Just keep hanging in there, it gets easier the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> >CatNipped
CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 16:03 GMT
> I think my body is beginning to get desperate for nicotiene. I think
> some of that is my stress level...and conditioning. I sure am glad I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> CATherine

Here are some things that help you get through the first two weeks (put out
by the American Cancer Society and I know from experience they really do
help).

To get the nicotine out of your body quickly (once it is out and your body
is "clean" for a few days, the physical cravings will go away and you'll
only have to deal with breaking the "habit")....

1. Take lots of cold showers - this stimulates blood circulation and helps
your body filter out the nicotine faster.

2. Exercise - again, stimulates blood circulation plus the sweat helps get
the nicotine out of your body faster.

3. Drink lots and lots of fluids (orange juice is good because the vitamin C
will help with the nicotine withdrawal symptoms).  BUT DON'T DRINK OR EAT
ANYTHING WITH CAFFEINE - caffeine gives you the same physical effects as
nicotine and will cause you to keep the physical craving even after the
nicotine is out of your body, so no coffee, chocolate, etc. for a while.

4. Get lots and lots of sleep - not only will it help restore your body, but
when you're sleeping you're not thinking about smoking!!

[I never understood using the nicotine patches or gum when the goal is to
get the nicotine *OUT* of your body as fast as possible so you will quit
having the physical craving for cigarettes and only have to deal with the
psychological cravings.]

To help with the habit itself...

5. As I mentioned in an earlier post, get some coffee stirrer straws and
chew on them for the oral stimulation.

6. Get a "worry ball" or something you can do with your hands to distract
them from wanting to hold a cigarette.

7. Do something you don't usually do, something that you won't associate
with smoking, something that will take your mind to a different place.

8. Surround yourself with non-smokers and let them be your support when you
are craving a cigarette.

9. Pet and brush your cats as often as possible - not only will this help
get the tar and nicotine off their fur, but petting cats will lower your
blood pressure and calm you down.

I hope this helps.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Elise - 09 Oct 2004 16:55 GMT
> [I never understood using the nicotine patches or gum when the goal is to
> get the nicotine *OUT* of your body as fast as possible so you will quit
> having the physical craving for cigarettes and only have to deal with the
> psychological cravings.]

When I tried cold turkey it was like Jekyll and Hyde.

I am normally a rather laid-back, take life as it comes, it happened and I
can't change that so let's learn from it and move on kind of person.  In
just one day without nicotine I was like a totally different person and its
an experience I would never want to repeat.
Joe (DH) came home from work, spent an hour with me then said he'd be right
back, grabbed his keys and walked out.  He was back five minutes later with
a pack of my favorite cigarettes.  He basically told me that, as much as he
wanted me to quit smoking, he hated to see me so miserable.
I started on the patch the next day and it made all the difference.  I was
able to break the habit of smoking while gradually ridding myself of the
physical addiction.  I can honestly say that there have only been 2-3 times
where I have actually *wanted* to smoke a cigarette (as opposed to
automatically reaching for one) from the time I slapped on that first patch.

I'm always happy to hear that someone was able to quit and I admire the ones
who can do it cold turkey.  So congratulations to all of us who have quit
and many encouraging purrs for those who haven't yet started that battle :)

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CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 19:50 GMT
> I'm always happy to hear that someone was able to quit and I admire the ones
> who can do it cold turkey.  So congratulations to all of us who have quit
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Elise (supervised by Gossamer & Jeeves)
> dragonandthistle at snet dot net

Hey, whatever works is *GOOD*!!!!  If it takes the patch or gum to help
someone quit then that's what they should use - it didn't work for me
though.  Just goes to show, once again, different strokes for different
folks - vive la difference - variety is the spice of life - etc., etc.
That's what makes life interesting for me - the differences in people
fascinate me.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Exocat - 10 Oct 2004 22:03 GMT
Great ideas. And another that helped me when I gave up (24 years ago
IIRC):

Take bets with your friends/family/cow orkers on whether you can
succeed: make it so expensive for yourself to lose that you daren't!

Best wishes for a permanent conversion to the ranks of the "clean"

Gordon & the TT

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> Here are some things that help you get through the first two weeks
CatNipped - 10 Oct 2004 23:50 GMT
> Great ideas. And another that helped me when I gave up (24 years ago
> IIRC):
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Oh yes, and one other thing.  If you can, take the money you would have
spent on cigarettes and put it aside somewhere every day.  Then at the end
of three months go and splurge on something wonderful as a reward to
yourself!

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 07 Oct 2004 14:30 GMT
>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
>way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!
---------------------<snip>----------------------

Congratulations!!!!  I gave it up fifteen years or so ago and have
never regretted it.  The first month was the hardest.  It felt like
the whole world owed it to me to put up with my being a crabby old
b*st*rd.  After that, it was just the mental aspect -- the physical
addiction was gone.

Best of luck, be good to yourself.

Regards and Purrs,
O J (still typing around my cat)
O J - 07 Oct 2004 19:44 GMT
As long as we're on the subject, let me briefly mention my method of
quitting.  I claim no great insight or a path that will make it easy,
but it's simple and free.

DH had come down with a terrible case of bronchitis and couldn't even
smell an unlit cigarette without retching.  This led to her quitting,
and since I could no longer smoke inside our home, I decided to quit
too.

My method was to write the date and time on the next pack I opened.
Something seemed to tell me that this step would bear fruit.  The
first pack I smoked in a day and a half.  The next one lasted me
almost a week.  I never finished the third pack.  Try it if it makes
any sense to you -- it worked for me.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Kreisleriana - 07 Oct 2004 14:34 GMT
>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
>course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!

You deserved *some*  reward.  You did the right thing.  Cleansing lung
and artery purrs. ;)

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Ginger-lyn Summer - 07 Oct 2004 19:00 GMT
>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>--
>CATherine

Congratulations, CATherine!!!!  I am so happy for you :-)  Keep up the
good work!

I haven't *yet* quit, but I am enrolled in a program where I get free
patches and phone support.  They say in this program people are five
times more likely to quit than in any other program.  I sure hope so!
I think I am truly ready this time.  Hopefully, I'll be joining you on
the non-smoking bandwagon very soon!

Ginger-lyn
CATherine - 12 Oct 2004 04:03 GMT
>>The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
>>everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Ginger-lyn

I am looking forward to hearing about you and Sam Nash following my
example. That is inspiration for me not to fail and/or let you down.

So many people have written to me that i am unable to answer all of
them. I am very grateful for the support. I am sure all the kitty
purrs and the human prayers have been helping me get through the
addiction. So far, the withdrawal seems very mild for a 40year smoker.
thanks, everyone. You mean so much to me.

--
CATherine
Caroline S. - 07 Oct 2004 21:29 GMT
Mega-congratulations to you!! That is quite amazing, and you deserve a great
deal of back-pats and beamings-with-pride. Way to go!!

Good luck cleaning up your home too.  We bought a house owned by 2 chain
smokers, and it took us 2 years of work to get rid of the last of the smell.
You'll want to wash your walls and ceilings down too, maybe even repaint
with a sealing primer if you're up for it.  The brown goo that will come up
will reinforce your decision to quit however, when you realize that it was
the stuff that *didn't* make it into your lungs!

-Caroline

> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> --
> CATherine
Elise - 07 Oct 2004 23:25 GMT
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
> way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!
>
>snip<

It's not easy to do but it feels so good once it's accomplished!
Congratulations!!

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Annie Wxill - 08 Oct 2004 00:30 GMT
.... You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!
.> CATherine

Mega congratulations! Just keep telling yourself that cigarettes are not
your friends.
Annie
Singh - 08 Oct 2004 03:41 GMT
YIPPEE!!! Good for you! I'm smokefree almost 4 years now. Yeah, I did gain
a little weight, but I'm better in the long run.

I found when I was quitting that using a flavored lip gloss really helped
when I got the urge for a smoke or to munch too much. I'd get one of the
Bonne Bell or Jane ones from the drugstore. They have very strong, sweet
flavors. Everytime I got the urge, I'd fix my lips. I tell everyone. I
told a teenager near a drugstore and she went in and got some. I hope it
did her some good, and it wasn't just a reminder to stock up. I'm proud of
you. Go and brag about it! It's the only time you'll ever get praised for
being a quitter so indulge!

Blessed be,
Baha

> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> --
> CATherine
Sam Nash - 08 Oct 2004 04:19 GMT
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
> way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!
<snipped>
CONGRATULATIONS!  I guess it's going to be my turn pretty soon.
Sam
LOL - 08 Oct 2004 06:42 GMT
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
> course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!

Congratulations!  We're HaPpY DaNcInG for you!  And BTW, Godiva's
chocolate raspberry truffle ice cream is ridiculously good, too.   :-D

------
Krista
Seanette Blaylock - 08 Oct 2004 15:25 GMT
arbitrarilyyours@hotmail.com (LOL) had some very interesting things to
say about Re: EUREKA!! I Did It!!:

>Congratulations!  We're HaPpY DaNcInG for you!  And BTW, Godiva's
>chocolate raspberry truffle ice cream is ridiculously good, too.   :-D

Felix votes for Haagen-Dazs Dulce de Leche flavor. :-)

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Adrian - 08 Oct 2004 13:49 GMT
> The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
> way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!

Congratulations to you and your son. So what if you put on some weight,
with the money you'll save on cigarettes you can buy a whole new
wardrobe, and have money left over for cat treats and toys. I gave up
three years ago and have since put on about 40 pounds, but in every
other way the cats and I are so much better off.
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Cathi - 08 Oct 2004 20:52 GMT
Congrats!

I managed to persuade Rich to give up (I'm one of those irritating types
who's never smoked, not even an experimental puff behind the bike shed
at school).  On our first date, he went to kiss me goodnight.  I,
apparently, recoiled in horror and muttered "Oh - I forgot you smoked".
Apart from one lapse on holiday shortly after (I wasn't there) he's
never indulged since.

And apparently I nagged my parents into quitting too!  I was a rather
late baby, and when I was seven my father was nearing retirement age
(62; my mother was 51).  My mum tells me that I solemnly informed them
that although I might have the oldest parents in the school, I didn't
want them to be the ones to die first, so would they give up smoking
please?  My father's impending retirement would mean reduced income, and
I was just the catalyst.
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Jo Firey - 08 Oct 2004 22:37 GMT
> Congrats!
>
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> please?  My father's impending retirement would mean reduced income, and
> I was just the catalyst.

Retirement got my father-in-law to quit as well.  He quit at 68 after
smoking since he was about 10.  It was sorta sad funny watching the struggle
between two habits, because he also hated to waste money.  Quitting finally
won over as the price of cigarettes started to go sky high.  It didn't hurt
that he knew it wasn't good for him and that it wasn't really fair to
maintain an expensive habit that was just his when they were on a somewhat
limited income.

Jo
Tish Silberbauer - 08 Oct 2004 23:28 GMT
Congratulations Catherine!

My DH gave up smoking (a pack a day) when I was supporting him
financially - we were both students, but I was on a stipend and he
wasn't, so I supported him while he studied and worked part-time.
Needless to say, finances were *very* tight and we agreed that I
couldn't afford to finance his smoking habit.  He didn't give up right
away, but he did use a bad bout of tonsilitis as a springboard to
quitting.  He also used nicorette chewing gum for a few months.  His
craving is still there and if we go to a pub (a rare event) and one of
our party is smoking, he'll sometimes have one or two, but it never
seems to trigger the craving to take it up again.  He quickly realised
that he was healthier and happier (not to mention less stinky) without
the ciggies.

Tish

>Retirement got my father-in-law to quit as well.  He quit at 68 after
>smoking since he was about 10.  It was sorta sad funny watching the struggle
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>
>Jo
Singh - 12 Oct 2004 18:11 GMT
> > The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
> > everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> three years ago and have since put on about 40 pounds, but in every
> other way the cats and I are so much better off.

Amen to that. I put on closer to sixty, but I have other complications
unrelated to smoking and the medications cause weight retention. Still,
it's nothing to the damage of tobacco. I think my Fritzie hung on longer
after I quit, and I have no doubt that my three kitties will have good long
lives in part due to my quitting. Stosh came from a house full of smokers
and had wheezing when I first got him; he doesn't now. Smoking weight is
hard to get rid of, but I'd rather have it than the two-pack a day habit I
used to carry around with me.

Blessed be,
Baha

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Stormin Mormon - 12 Oct 2004 05:30 GMT
Hey, that's totally encouraging. I'm pulling for you! Has your sense of
taste started to come back?

Lets see, Oct 06 to 11 -- that would be almost a week.

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The last couple weeks have been so hard. And right in the middle of
everything, i had a killer toothache. But maybe it helped in its own
way. You see, after 40 years, I quit smoking!

The bronchitis i had last month was pretty bad and the last of it
never left me. I was plagued with a constant bronchial rattle. Then
one day I was driving to the next client and smoking and coughing.
Then, for some reason, I looked at my cigarette and asked myself "What
am i doing? This tastes like sh*t!"

I have known for years the bad effects of ciggies; but always
rationalized it away by telling myself I enjoyed the taste of tobacco.
But that day I realized it had been a long time since a ciggie tasted
like tobacco, and I was not enjoying smoking or hacking my lungs out.
My smoking was an addictive habit; kind of like pavlov's dog. So I
told myself, "I'm going to do it! I am going to quit" So I stubbed the
cigarette out and that was it. I haven't had one since.

I gave the remainder of my cigarettes to my son and told him my
decision. Then I told him I wasn't buying any more; not even for him.
He agreed and said he would use the two packs to taper off. Well, by
now we are smoke-free. And I am done with the bronchial rattle.

But I talked with a nurse at work and she said after 40 years damage,
I would be coughing up sh*t from my lungs a long time. But it is just
an occasional loose cough. And i am able to breathe deeper already
than I have in years.

I even went through the house and gathered up all the many ashtrays
and cleaned them and packed them away for my spring yard sale. Except
for a couple decorative ones that don't really look like ashtrays. I
cleaned my car and sprayed it thoroughly with Odo-Ban.

Now, over the next few months, as I have time, I need to clean house
bit by bit. I realize the smell of tar and ashes is ingrained in the
carpet, curtains and sofa, etc. I am so used to it I don't even smell
it--yet. Once the crap is finally cleaned out of my body, I will
probably regain my sense of smell. And taste.

Oh, No!! What have I done? I love food even without a sense of smell
and not much taste. What is going to happen when the tar and nicotine
is gone? I am going to balloon, is what!! Let me tell you, the
addiction to ciggies is nothing compared to the addiction to tasty
food! ;-))

I stopped at Safeway on the way home tonight. They had my favorite on
sale--3 for $6. Regular price is $3.69 apiece! What a sale! So of
course I succumbed! Godiva dark Belgian chocolate ice cream! YUM!

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CATherine
Singh - 12 Oct 2004 17:03 GMT
Welcome, Sto'Mo'. Hope you're having fun here in Kittyland. I think you'll
find a nicer bunch of people here. Now we need to get you properly outfitted
with a cat!

Blessed be!
Baha

> Hey, that's totally encouraging. I'm pulling for you! Has your sense of
> taste started to come back?
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Susan M - 12 Oct 2004 22:05 GMT
> Welcome, Sto'Mo'. Hope you're having fun here in Kittyland. I think you'll
> find a nicer bunch of people here. Now we need to get you properly outfitted
> with a cat!

OOOh - do we get to hear about someone finding and adopting a kitty ...  or
two ???  I can't wait to hear all about it!

Susan M
Rooting for new kitties
Stormin Mormon - 13 Oct 2004 03:11 GMT
I had one for awhile. But can't quite get the energy up to get another one.
Baha will work me over awhile, which is OK.

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> Welcome, Sto'Mo'. Hope you're having fun here in Kittyland. I think you'll
> find a nicer bunch of people here. Now we need to get you properly
outfitted
> with a cat!

OOOh - do we get to hear about someone finding and adopting a kitty ...  or
two ???  I can't wait to hear all about it!

Susan M
Rooting for new kitties
CatNipped - 12 Oct 2004 22:17 GMT
> Welcome, Sto'Mo'. Hope you're having fun here in Kittyland. I think you'll
> find a nicer bunch of people here. Now we need to get you properly
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> Blessed be!
> Baha

Stormin Mormon isn't owned by a cat!!!!  Well, Sto'Mo', do you have any idea
what you're missing???!!!!  You really should remedy this regrettable lack
as soon as possible!!!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Singh - 13 Oct 2004 00:23 GMT
> > Welcome, Sto'Mo'. Hope you're having fun here in Kittyland. I think you'll
> > find a nicer bunch of people here. Now we need to get you properly
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> what you're missing???!!!!  You really should remedy this regrettable lack
> as soon as possible!!!  ;>

We've been working on Sto'Mo'. Our kitties love him, especially Brandy, who took
to him immediately and just curled up in his lap and purred like a little diesel
engine. Even Roxie took some time away from her quest for enlightenment to come
and show her belly to my buddy, a sign that she highly esteems him.

Chris!!! Let me and Louie take you to get properly fitted for a cat! Ten Lives
is doing a 2-for-1 special! We'll help you find one who isn't
Ritalin-challenged!

Blessed be!
Baha
Stormin Mormon - 13 Oct 2004 03:09 GMT
Thanks for t he offer. I did have Ruffus for awhile. Which was great, but I
couldn't keep him off the counters. Well, maybe a different cat would be
different?

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CatNipped wrote:

> > Welcome, Sto'Mo'. Hope you're having fun here in Kittyland. I think you'll
> > find a nicer bunch of people here. Now we need to get you properly
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> what you're missing???!!!!  You really should remedy this regrettable lack
> as soon as possible!!!  ;>

We've been working on Sto'Mo'. Our kitties love him, especially Brandy, who
took
to him immediately and just curled up in his lap and purred like a little
diesel
engine. Even Roxie took some time away from her quest for enlightenment to
come
and show her belly to my buddy, a sign that she highly esteems him.

Chris!!! Let me and Louie take you to get properly fitted for a cat! Ten
Lives
is doing a 2-for-1 special! We'll help you find one who isn't
Ritalin-challenged!

Blessed be!
Baha
Seanette Blaylock - 13 Oct 2004 16:08 GMT
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> had some very
interesting things to say about Re: EUREKA!! I Did It!! Got Sto Mo to
consider a cat!:

>Thanks for t he offer. I did have Ruffus for awhile. Which was great, but I
>couldn't keep him off the counters. Well, maybe a different cat would be
>different?

Seems likely. My current owner, Felix, has zero interest in counters.

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Stormin Mormon - 18 Oct 2004 01:34 GMT
I'd like one who is very affectionate. Stays on the ground. doesn't sit on
my chest at night and breathe in my face. Never tries to dash out door. Lets
me trim its nails. Likes to sit on my lap and let me scratch it. And poops
once a week, in the toilet, and flushes for himself.

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"Seanette Blaylock" <seanette.spammers.drop.dead@impulse.net> wrote in
Seems likely. My current owner, Felix, has zero interest in counters.

Christina Websell - 18 Oct 2004 01:42 GMT
> I'd like one who is very affectionate. Stays on the ground. doesn't sit on
> my chest at night and breathe in my face. Never tries to dash out door.
> Lets
> me trim its nails. Likes to sit on my lap and let me scratch it. And poops
> once a week, in the toilet, and flushes for himself.

Dream on.

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> "Seanette Blaylock" <seanette.spammers.drop.dead@impulse.net> wrote in
> Seems likely. My current owner, Felix, has zero interest in counters.
Singh - 18 Oct 2004 06:02 GMT
> > I'd like one who is very affectionate. Stays on the ground. doesn't sit on
> > my chest at night and breathe in my face. Never tries to dash out door.
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>
> Dream on.

I told Sto'Mo' that no one has yet perfected a cat that works on photosynthesis.
I'm working on subliminalGET A CAT CHRISmessages now. Maybe that willCATS ARE
NICE CHRISwork.

Blessed Be,
Baha
don't be mad Sto"mo', you know I'm justCATCATCATrazzing you!
Stormin Mormon - 18 Oct 2004 13:31 GMT
DEAR BAHA,
   YOU ARE SO KIND hmmnicekitty TO REPLY TO MY MESSneedacatAGE. I SURE HOPE
THE FOLkittykittyKS AT WORK AREN'T prr prr prr GIVING YOU TOO MUmeowCH
GRIEprr prrF, THAT'S TO BAD.

   I AM STILL THINmeowKING THAT I DOprr-prrN'T WANT A CAT, NOW, IT
WOscritchULD BE TOO MUCH WloveyscritchyORK TO TAKE CARE OF ONE. DUMPmeowING
THE LITTER BOX WOULD BE A ONpurr-loveyCE A WEEK THING.

   UNLESS I CAN FIND A CAT THAT DOprrES USE THE TOILET, BUT THAT IS
UNmeowLIKELY.

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Christina Websell wrote:

> > I'd like one who is very affectionate. Stays on the ground. doesn't sit on
> > my chest at night and breathe in my face. Never tries to dash out door.
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>
> Dream on.

I told Sto'Mo' that no one has yet perfected a cat that works on
photosynthesis.
I'm working on subliminalGET A CAT CHRISmessages now. Maybe that willCATS
ARE
NICE CHRISwork.

Blessed Be,
Baha
don't be mad Sto"mo', you know I'm justCATCATCATrazzing you!
Singh - 18 Oct 2004 15:50 GMT
> DEAR BAHA,
>     YOU ARE SO KIND hmmnicekitty TO REPLY TO MY MESSneedacatAGE. I SURE HOPE
> THE FOLkittykittyKS AT WORK AREN'T prr prr prr GIVING YOU TOO MUmeowCH
> GRIEprr prrF, THAT'S TO BAD.

Work? I'm still on vacation, for which I am profoundly grateful. Hey, you're not
mad there are you? I'm just teasing, you know that! :-)

As for people at work giving me grief about possible internet use, you are
mistaking M&T Bank for a company that actually gives its employees something
besides heartburn.

>     I AM STILL THINmeowKING THAT I DOprr-prrN'T WANT A CAT, NOW, IT
> WOscritchULD BE TOO MUCH WloveyscritchyORK TO TAKE CARE OF ONE. DUMPmeowING
> THE LITTER BOX WOULD BE A ONpurr-loveyCE A WEEK THING.

That's why I suggested the dispose-a-box. You get them in the spoiled cat aisle
of the grocery store for $1.99. I used those with Fritzie when I lived in the
small apartment before I got married, with the Landlady Of Pure Evil.

>     UNLESS I CAN FIND A CAT THAT DOprrES USE THE TOILET, BUT THAT IS
> UNmeowLIKELY.

There's supposedly some contraption you can get at PetSmart that helps teach a
cat to use the can, but I don't know how reliable it is. You know as well as I
do that a cat is its own law.

BlessedJUST JOKING DUDEbe,
Baha

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> Baha
> don't be mad Sto"mo', you know I'm justCATCATCATrazzing you!
Tanada - 20 Oct 2004 00:08 GMT
> I'd like one who is very affectionate. Stays on the ground. doesn't sit on
> my chest at night and breathe in my face. Never tries to dash out door. Lets
> me trim its nails. Likes to sit on my lap and let me scratch it. And poops
> once a week, in the toilet, and flushes for himself.

As much as I love them, the family doesn't do all that.

Pam S.