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CatNipped - 06 Oct 2004 21:21 GMT My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company before (we sell, lease, repair, transport, and rent storage space for shipping containers - the kinds you see on ships and the "bed" part of 16-wheelers), so I'm a bit lost as to getting the "look and feel" right. Also, this is a more male-dominated industry so, although I would like everyone's opinion, I especially need a guy's point of view.
Please, *please* be very honest in your opinions - I'm a web architect and I do this all the time, so I don't get emotionally involved with my designs. If a customer tell me "that looks like crap" I just scrap the design and start over without ever a hurt feeling.
Here's the site: http://www.cgini.com/
Thanks in advance!
Hugs,
CatNipped
CatNipped - 06 Oct 2004 21:30 GMT OK, my boss just said, "those trucks you have on the menu are *not* container chassis trucks, they're regular semis." !!!????! He must know what he's talking about, he knew the difference at a glance, but I have *NO* idea what he means - and I can't find any pictures of a "container chassis" truck!!! *SIGH*
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CatNipped
> My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for > the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > CatNipped O J - 06 Oct 2004 22:55 GMT >OK, my boss just said, "those trucks you have on the menu are *not* >container chassis trucks, they're regular semis." !!!????! He must know [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >CatNipped Let me start by saying that I'm not a semi driver, but I think what he's getting at may be two things that, now that you mention it, I notice. First, there are the airflow thingies above the cab. Those are the rounded things on top designed to push the air up over the regular high box of a tall enclosed trailer. Container trucks don't need them as much since the containers are not as high. If you were strictly into container hauling, you wouldn't need them.
Second is the cab space of the semi behind the drivers compartment. That is where the sleeping quarters of an over-the-road driver would be. Most container traffic is short-haul, the containers being transported by ship or rail for long distances.
As a personal note, if it were me, I think now would be the time to check with him to be sure that those are the changes he was thinking of. My second choice would be to scour the clip-art files for shorter- cabbed, un-spoilered semis and then show them to him.
Hope this helps, O J
CatNipped - 06 Oct 2004 23:01 GMT I talked to our sales guy and he's going to get one of the drivers to hook up a container to a truck and then take a digital picture of it for me so I can get the correct profile! Sheesh! ;>
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CatNipped
>>OK, my boss just said, "those trucks you have on the menu are *not* >>container chassis trucks, they're regular semis." !!!????! He must know [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Hope this helps, > O J O J - 06 Oct 2004 23:10 GMT >I talked to our sales guy and he's going to get one of the drivers to hook >up a container to a truck and then take a digital picture of it for me so I >can get the correct profile! Sheesh! ;> Goodness, does that mean I can go back to breathing again? When I saw you needed help right away, I didn't stop till I had the message in some kind of shape I thought you could use. (pant, pant) Well, maybe it'll be for the best. Is there any chance the company logo on the semi will be big enough to read?
OK, let me go look at the rest of the site. Talk at you later.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Julie Cook - 07 Oct 2004 15:42 GMT > I talked to our sales guy and he's going to get one of the drivers to hook > up a container to a truck and then take a digital picture of it for me so I > can get the correct profile! Sheesh! ;> CatNipped,
In case the digital picture doesn't turn out well, or you want to play with ideas before you get the pictures, you can check out http://www.bunne.com/Trucks/MB20D.html for pictures of model Volvo container trucks. Lots of different companies and styles to steal ..... errm use as ideas.
Julie
CatNipped - 07 Oct 2004 18:43 GMT Kewl! Thanks!!!
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CatNipped
>> I talked to our sales guy and he's going to get one of the drivers to >> hook up a container to a truck and then take a digital picture of it for [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Julie Jo Firey - 07 Oct 2004 01:00 GMT > OK, my boss just said, "those trucks you have on the menu are *not* > container chassis trucks, they're regular semis." !!!????! He must know [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > CatNipped Damn. We had one accross the street last week. Neighbor is moving to Hawaii and they left the container for several days and just picked it up Friday. COuld have provided a picture.
Jo
> > My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for > > the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > CatNipped Annie Wxill - 08 Oct 2004 00:18 GMT ... and I can't find any pictures of a "container
> chassis" truck >> CatNipped Do they have to be trucks? Could they be on barges or a train? Or some other vehicle that moves containers?
Annie
CatNipped - 08 Oct 2004 00:40 GMT > Do they have to be trucks? > Could they be on barges or a train? > Or some other vehicle that moves containers? > > Annie Well, the trucks have the most recognizable silhouette, but I may scrap the idea all together since the internal site will have a lot more pages the trucks just may be to big to fit them all. I was so busy today doing admin work that I'm wondering when I'll find the time to get back to doing the site!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Annie Wxill - 08 Oct 2004 21:38 GMT > Well, the trucks have the most recognizable silhouette, ...> CatNipped Who will make up the viewers of the site, i.e., the general public, people who are familiar with containers, cat lovers, etc.?
Annie
CatNipped - 09 Oct 2004 00:20 GMT > > Well, the trucks have the most recognizable silhouette, ...> CatNipped > > > Who will make up the viewers of the site, i.e., the general public, people > who are familiar with containers, cat lovers, etc.? > > Annie It will be for people who buy, rent, store (these mostly), etc. storage containers. As I mentioned, this is still a very male-oriented industry (though women are making some headway - 3 out of our 30 depot managers are women).
Hugs,
CatNipped
zaax - 07 Oct 2004 00:23 GMT >My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for >the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >CatNipped Sorry about this.
Lots of words but very little substance
e.g.
[New company name] formed on 1st September 2004, from Global Intermodal Systems (GIS) and Container Care International (CCI).
[New company name] has 30 facilities and offices located throughout the United States, Mexico and Costa Rica, .......
Always use the New company name and use it lots.
 Signature Zaax http://www.ukgatsos.com
CatNipped - 07 Oct 2004 00:32 GMT Oops, forgot to say, this is just the graphics / layout design - I put the merger blurb on the front page just as "filler".
Hugs,
CatNipped
> >My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for > >the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Zaax > http://www.ukgatsos.com Yowie - 07 Oct 2004 00:26 GMT > My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for > the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Here's the site: http://www.cgini.com/ Looks good, although the "flashing" trucks annoyed me a bit. If they have to flash, can they stop flashing once I put my mouse over the truck I want to click? Its kinda disconcerting that you don't know whether you've selected it or not....
Other than that, looks clean and proffesional. I'll let you know how it loads on crappy dial-up tonight.
Yowie
CatNipped - 07 Oct 2004 00:33 GMT > > My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for > > the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Yowie Thanks Yowie - yeah, I'm tending to agree with you about the trucks flashing.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Annie Wxill - 07 Oct 2004 00:31 GMT ...
> Here's the site: http://www.cgini.com/ > CatNipped Not a male point of view, but Wow! The home page looks great. I love the little truck convoy for the tabs, or whatever you call them. I was looking forward to seeing the other pages, but I guess they are not ready yet. Annie
Dan M - 07 Oct 2004 01:40 GMT > My company is merging with another company and I'm doing the web site for > the "new" company. I've never done a web site for this type of company [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Also, this is a more male-dominated industry so, although I would like > everyone's opinion, I especially need a guy's point of view. CatNipped, I'm a computer programmer (been programmer and sys admin since the '70s) who can't find a programming job. I'm therefore earning my keep by driving a semi.
I pull only standard dry vans, but when I make deliveries to or pickups from rail yards I see a lot of trucks that pull containers ("cans" in the lingo) on can chassis. Lots of the trucks pulling them are conventional road tractors. The owner-operator trucks have low-top sleepers more often than not (as opposed to the taller condo sleepers), and a fair number of them are driving cab-overs ("cab over engine" (COE), the ones with blunt noses) with low-top sleepers. A good number of the company-operated trucks are day cabs - no sleeper at all. Could it be that the guy complaining about the menu artwork means that he wants to see trucks with low-top sleepers, or cab-over trucks, or day cabs? If all else fails, you could always ask him whether he wants to see low-top conventionals (conventional in this case means "long nose"), cab-overs, or day cabs.
As for the look of the site, I like it.
Dan
CatNipped - 07 Oct 2004 02:17 GMT > CatNipped, I'm a computer programmer (been programmer and sys admin > since the '70s) who can't find a programming job. I'm therefore earning > my keep by driving a semi. I'm a web architect working as an administrative assistant! And then they make one of my "duties" designing their web site. But what are you gonna do - here are no tech jobs out there any more!!
> I pull only standard dry vans, but when I make deliveries to or pickups > from rail yards I see a lot of trucks that pull containers ("cans" in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > see low-top conventionals (conventional in this case means "long nose"), > cab-overs, or day cabs. Oh wow, all that went so far over my head it didn't even muss my hair on the way past!! ;> I really should get to know more about the business of the company I work for!!!!
> As for the look of the site, I like it. > > Dan Thanks, it's still very much a work in progress.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Debbie Wilson - 07 Oct 2004 08:05 GMT > Please, *please* be very honest in your opinions - I'm a web architect and I > do this all the time, so I don't get emotionally involved with my designs. > If a customer tell me "that looks like crap" I just scrap the design and > start over without ever a hurt feeling. > > Here's the site: http://www.cgini.com/ Hi CatNipped,
Again - I'm not a guy, but I'm a graphic designer and just wanted to add, I like the clean look and choice of colours, it looks very good. Just for the record, I use a Mac and tried it in IE and Safari and it was great in both. Is the Rubik's cube meant to link to anything? I saw its changing pictures, and my cursor changed as if to indicate a link, but clicking produced no results?
HTH
Deb.
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CatNipped - 08 Oct 2004 00:42 GMT > > Please, *please* be very honest in your opinions - I'm a web architect and I > > do this all the time, so I don't get emotionally involved with my designs. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; > He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield Oops! Fixed that - no, it wasn't supposed to link to anything, it was just pointing to the JavaScript that ran the mouse-over.
Thanks for pointing that out to me, it would have slipped past.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Pat - 12 Oct 2004 05:51 GMT Maybe there's something wrong with my computer, but I can't see anything in the middle part of any of the pages except the index page (which loads *very* slowly, BTW). I've tried viewing it with IE 6 and with Firefox. Same result with both.
Christina Websell - 12 Oct 2004 10:58 GMT > Maybe there's something wrong with my computer, but I can't see anything > in > the middle part of any of the pages except the index page (which loads > *very* slowly, BTW). I've tried viewing it with IE 6 and with Firefox. > Same > result with both. You could try emptying the temporary internet files cache, and degramenting the hard drive. Sounds like it's a bit chocca. See what happens after that.
HTH Tweed
SUQKRT - 12 Oct 2004 18:28 GMT <<
> Maybe there's something wrong with my computer, but I can't see anything > in > the middle part of any of the pages except the index page (which loads > *very* slowly, BTW). I've tried viewing it with IE 6 and with Firefox. > Same > result with both. You could try emptying the temporary internet files cache, and degramenting the hard drive. Sounds like it's a bit chocca. See what happens after that.
HTH Tweed
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CatNipped - 12 Oct 2004 14:13 GMT > Maybe there's something wrong with my computer, but I can't see anything > in > the middle part of any of the pages except the index page (which loads > *very* slowly, BTW). I've tried viewing it with IE 6 and with Firefox. > Same > result with both. Oh, sorry I didn't make myself clear enough - this is only the "framework" that up (just the graphics and page layouts). I'm trying to design the graphics and layouts first and then when that's settled on I'll start adding the content.
Thanks for letting me know about the slow download - I'm using a T1 line at work and have a cable modem at home, so I need feedback from people who are using phoneline modems (as will a lot of our customers be using).
Thanks,
CatNipped
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