I admit it, I hate spiders. Besides daddy-long-legs (ues, I know they aren't
exaactly spiers but they have 8 legs and look alot like them) which I can
stand as long as they stay up in the corner sof the bathroom eating
mosquitos, spiders tend to cop a rather quick shoe if they dare come into
the house or get too near me outside (but otherwise I'll leave outside
spiders alone)
There's a particular type of spider that seems to come in alot, and gets
regularly smooshed. Its dark brown with lighter brown markings, and the
female carries live young (coz when you smoosh those ones, the little ones
scatter all over the place).
I didn't know whether these types of spiders were dangeorous or not, so,
gathering up all my courage and fighting an almost overwhelming urge to
smmosh it, instead of killling the next spider of this type I saw, i managed
to catch it in a clean take-away plastic containder. I put the container in
th ebathtub so that the furris coudn't mess with it and tracked down an
exterminator that was willing to identify it for free.
The catch was, that I had to take the spider to the exterminator - if the
exterminator came here, that wold be a $70 call-out fee. No thanks.
But with Cary, it was often hard to get out of the house, the exterminator
wasn't necessarily at the office, and even if I did go out on necessary and
unavoidable errands, I'd forget to take the spider with me. After 5 days,
spidey was still in the plastic container, in the bathtub, andlooking very
sorry for itself for lack of oxygen, food and water.
The guilt was too much. In the end I had to summon up even more courage, and
let the poor thing go in the from garden (well away from the house).
Now I know that the life of one spider is no more and no less valuable than
another, and I've smooshed two more spiders of that type since I let the
captured spider go, indeed one of the latest smooshed ones could well be the
same one I let go the previous week, because I certainly couldn't tell. But
why did I feel I couldn't let the captured spider die, whilst still being
happy to smoosh other spiders with my shoe? very strange...
Yowie
CatNipped - 06 Oct 2004 13:57 GMT
> same one I let go the previous week, because I certainly couldn't tell.
> But
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You'd bonded with that spider?? ;> I don't kill spiders, I capture them and
let them go. The only things I kill (directly anyway, I kill a whole lot of
things indirectly by not being a vegan) are roaches, ants, and mosquitos.
Hugs,
CatNipped
TBird - 06 Oct 2004 16:26 GMT
Is it a little furry? And fairly large?
Almost sounds like a Wolf spider. They are harmless to people and love to
eat Miller moths and other spiders so I tolerate them. But mine never come
inside.
http://images.google.com/images?q=Wolf+spider&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search
They are pretty easy to catch, too.
TBird <--- also hates spiders and has had close encounters with Brown
Recluses which were in fact white and really scarey looking
> I admit it, I hate spiders. Besides daddy-long-legs (ues, I know they aren't
> exaactly spiers but they have 8 legs and look alot like them) which I can
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Yowie - 07 Oct 2004 00:19 GMT
Its not large compared to other spiders we get here (the ones Bev is talking
about down thread are huntsman spiders and usually have the leg span of a
large human hand, and can even get to the size of a dinner plate in places),
but yes, the spiders we get look much like wolf spiders. Which is weird -
what are American spiders doing in an Australian house?
Yowie
> Is it a little furry? And fairly large?
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Tish Silberbauer - 07 Oct 2004 10:19 GMT
Yep, sounds like a wolf spider - they show remarkable parental care of
their young. Wolf spiders is the common name for a very large group
of spiders and are found throughout the world (except antarctica,
nach).
Tish
>Its not large compared to other spiders we get here (the ones Bev is talking
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>Yowie
Yowie - 08 Oct 2004 00:52 GMT
Are they dangerous is the big question. Are they likely to bite Cary? Is the
bite a bad one or just a nip and sting? Or do they generally go about their
business without bothering people too much? If they are not agressive, then
I may be convinced to relocate them rather than smooshing them. Though
smooshing them tends to be a reaction rather than a concious decision.
Yowie
> Yep, sounds like a wolf spider - they show remarkable parental care of
> their young. Wolf spiders is the common name for a very large group
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Tish Silberbauer - 08 Oct 2004 03:41 GMT
Like all spiders, they will bite if pestered (picked up and squeezed).
I have found that they are generally easy-going and will not go
looking for trouble. If you can do so, I would recommend re-locating
Wolfie to somewhere that has reasonable humidity (any streams near
you?) and good vegetation cover.
Tish
>Are they dangerous is the big question. Are they likely to bite Cary? Is the
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Yowie - 08 Oct 2004 05:37 GMT
hey, I bite too when picked up and squeezed :-) The biggest worry is a
spider in a pile of blankets or clothes, if its agressive it will bite, if
timid it will try to run away first. I'm hoping the wolf spiders are
sensible, and will try to run away. Our place is full of clutter, a spider's
delight :-(.
The captured spider was released into the front garden, furthest away from
the house. But I think they live in the fence, because they always seem to
be in the back of the house (lounge room, dining room & kitchen). We live on
top of a diverted stream, with an open drain grill in our back yard. Should
I drop the wolfies into there? (No guarantees they won't just get smooshed
though)
Yowie
(is there anything this group, colectively, *doesn't* know????)
> Like all spiders, they will bite if pestered (picked up and squeezed).
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Seanette Blaylock - 08 Oct 2004 15:24 GMT
"Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> had some very interesting
things to say about Re: Big softy:
>(is there anything this group, colectively, *doesn't* know????)
If there is, I haven't come across it yet. :-)

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TBird - 06 Oct 2004 16:28 GMT
I read more about it - sounds like you had a wolf spider.
TBird <---- pretty sure.
> I admit it, I hate spiders. Besides daddy-long-legs (ues, I know they aren't
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Bev - 06 Oct 2004 19:37 GMT
> I admit it, I hate spiders. Besides daddy-long-legs (ues, I know they aren't
> exaactly spiers but they have 8 legs and look alot like them) which I can
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When we were house exchanging on the Gold Coast we saw some of the
biggest spiders we had ever seen. We also saw some when we exchanged in
your area. We didn't kill them although I couldn't help a bit of
shuddering. I think they were wolf spiders. My New Zealand friend
lived in Brisbane and came over to the coast to stay with us. She
lived with a fly spray in her hand and zapped every spider she saw.
"God I hate them," she remarked.
I reckon spiders have their place in the scheme of things. If I know
they're not poisonous I can live with them. I rescue Daddy Long Legs
and am inclined to move mother and babies from the nooks and crannies of
the back patio before hosing it down.
Bev

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 Oct 2004 00:03 GMT
> why did I feel I couldn't let the captured spider die, whilst still being
> happy to smoosh other spiders with my shoe? very strange...
Smooshing is very fast, so as deaths go, it's not a terrible one for
a spider. Whereas slowly starving, dehydrating or suffocating is
much worse, I'm sure. I would have a hard time seeing that, as well,
and I've smooshed many bugs in my time.
Joyce