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Karen - 24 Apr 2006 21:54 GMT
Just wondering how that is going?
HRFLTiger - 24 Apr 2006 22:35 GMT
> Just wondering how that is going?///

She's still very, very sore although the leg does seem to be improving
a little. She's taking it very easy - going from her bed, to the litter
box or food dish and back to bed again. That's if she hasn't fallen
asleep in a sunny spot by the radiator!

TED seems to think that she will be on the mend for at *least* 12
weeks, if not 4 or 5 months, so I think she'll be out of action for a
while. He wants her to have Metacam on an ad-hoc basis, but I'm very
lary of that as it is contra-indicated for a cats kidneys and I'd
prefer not to take a risk. She's stiff and her legs obviously hurts her
a bit though, but I think that's the lesser of the two evils as it will
also stop her charging about and help her recover. Hopefully she'll be
back to her little ballerina self fairly soon though. :o)

Helen M
Pat - 24 Apr 2006 22:49 GMT
> She's still very, very sore although the leg does seem to be improving
> a little.

Helen, I'm wondering if you tried DMSO for her. It's worked virtual miracles
for me and some animals I've used it on.
HRFLTiger - 25 Apr 2006 08:56 GMT
> Helen, I'm wondering if you tried DMSO for her. It's worked virtual miracles
> for me and some animals I've used it on.///

What's DMSO? My gran suggested I try cod-liver oil, but again, it's
persuading her to take the stuff! Alas, she's semi feral - another
reason not to try and force her to take metacam.

Helen M
William Hamblen - 25 Apr 2006 12:06 GMT
>What's DMSO?

DMSO is dimethyl sulfoxide, an industrial solvent.
Pat - 25 Apr 2006 19:40 GMT
> What's DMSO? My gran suggested I try cod-liver oil, but again, it's
> persuading her to take the stuff! Alas, she's semi feral - another
> reason not to try and force her to take metacam.

It's not something you need to force her to "take"; it's applied externally.
I've used it for all sorts of contusions, sprains, any traumatic injury
where the skin is not broken. Especially effective in this regard if you
combine it with Arnica gel which is specific for bruising. DMSO is a solvent
that moves right through the skin and carries whatever is there (such as
arnica) deep into muscle tissue.

One time when a draft horse stepped on my bare foot I hobbled home (100
yards) and washed the foot, applied arnica + DMSO and within seconds there
was no pain. I never even got a bruise. I applied it several more times that
day. Without this treatment I'd have lost several toenails and my foot would
have been very swollen and black.

Have used it many other times in similar ways. Best to apply immediately to
get quickest results and prevent swelling, bruising, but later is much
better than not at all. I would not be without this stuff in my first-aid
kit!

Buy it at a feed store, it's only about $4-5 for a jar of the gel. Arnica
gel you'll find in any health food store that carries homeopathic remedies.
W. Leong - 25 Apr 2006 21:21 GMT
> It's not something you need to force her to "take"; it's applied
> externally. I've used it for all sorts of contusions, sprains, any
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> gel you'll find in any health food store that carries homeopathic
> remedies.

DMSO is dimethyl sulfoxide.
Once I looked for it for my bursitis and the pharmacist at a 'natural
pharmacy'
told me it is not sold in Canada.

There is a detailed description on DMSO and its side effects on Health
Canada's
website at:
http://www.forces.gc.ca/health/services/health_promotion/Engraph/factsheet_dmso_e.asp

Winnie
Howard C. Berkowitz - 26 Apr 2006 00:38 GMT
> > Helen, I'm wondering if you tried DMSO for her. It's worked virtual miracles
> > for me and some animals I've used it on.///
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>
> Helen M

DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) has the benefit, and the problem, of being
easily absorbed through skin.  It's accepted as a horse liniment, and
has at least one specialized use in human medicine.

It almost certainly has anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties, but
there are two levels of safety concern. First, it may be toxic to the
liver and kidneys, but so can a lot of other drugs. If that were the
only consideration, it might be safe to use with blood monitoring.

The danger is that industrial-purity supplies may themselves contain
toxic impurities that the DMSO can carry into the body, or it may act
as a conduit to carry substances on the skin into the body. For
example, cyanide salts are not usually absorbed from the skin, but a
cyanide in DMSO solution can be quite dangerous -- an example from an
industrial use.  

As a drug, it probably has a worse safety reputation than it really
warrants, as long as its purity is pharmaceutical grade, and the skin
where it is applied is cleaned thoroughly. If alcohol or other solvents
are used to clean the skin, they must evaporate completely before the
DMSO is applied.
Pat - 26 Apr 2006 03:51 GMT
> DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) has the benefit, and the problem, of being
> easily absorbed through skin.  It's accepted as a horse liniment, and
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> are used to clean the skin, they must evaporate completely before the
> DMSO is applied.

I was suggesting veterinary-grade DMSO, which is very close to as pure as
pharmaceutical-grade and much cheaper.
Lesley - 26 Apr 2006 11:24 GMT
My gran suggested I try cod-liver oil, but again, it's
> persuading her to take the stuff!

Cod-liver oil is toxic for cats apparently, it can cause spinal
problems. Getting them to take it through isn't the problem- Sarrasine
tries to open the bottle

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Karen - 24 Apr 2006 23:32 GMT
>> Just wondering how that is going?///
>
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>
> Helen M

I hope she continues to improve quickly.  When you consider what cats
put up with, if she is eating etc., she is not overly in pain. I have
reservations about any NSAID too, considering how cats handle them.
HRFLTiger - 25 Apr 2006 08:58 GMT
> I hope she continues to improve quickly.  When you consider what cats
> put up with, if she is eating etc., she is not overly in pain. I have
> reservations about any NSAID too, considering how cats handle them.////

To be fair, I think it's just uncomfortable. She can move pretty
quickly if I'm cooking fish or chicken and she thinks she's going to
get some! The TED likened it to blowing out your knee when you are
ski-ing, with a similar recovery period.

Helen M
 
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