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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2006[Biking] Women Only
Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> Since the weather has gotten warm (into the 100Fs), I've been having a problem with "saddle burn" (not saddle sores, thank goodness) right where a girl *DOESN'T* want to get any irritation. I wear biking shorts under my pedal pushers, with a thick chamois pad, but this doesn't help. I didn't want to use powder before a ride because I figured that would just cake up and get yucky. Anyone have any advice?  SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but > don't! Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > because I figured that would just cake up and get yucky. Anyone > have any advice? You can buy chamois butter. I've never use it, but some people swear by it. http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=3921 Also, I remember when you bought your bike, but not what decision you came to about saddles. Did you get a narrow, firm one? If not, the squooshy fat saddle might be causing the problem. The first few times I get on a bike every season, my nether regions feel awfully bruised, but after a while everything toughens up and it feels fine. By burn, do you mean actual abrasions? Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but >> don't! Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=3921 Hmmm. Never heard of that - I'll have to try it. > Also, I remember when you bought your bike, but not what decision you > came to about saddles. Did you get a narrow, firm one? If not, the > squooshy fat saddle might be causing the problem. I took the adivce y'all gave me here and I went with the hard narrow saddle and biking shorts. > The first few times I get on a bike every season, my nether regions > feel awfully bruised, but after a while everything toughens up and it > feels fine. > > By burn, do you mean actual abrasions? No, just red and irritated with a burning sensation on contact with undies. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ [explicit biological terminology warning] > I took the adivce y'all gave me here and I went with the hard narrow > saddle and biking shorts. That's good! Were you able to try different saddles or talk to a fit expert before buying? Narrow in this context should mean "exactly wide enough to support your particular sit bones, but no wider." The saddle on my mountain bike and that on my commuter bike are both hard and narrow, but there's a big difference in fit. The one on my mountain bike hurts my sitbones (do you know where yours are?) the first few times I ride, but eventually feels fine. The one on my commuter bike also smushes my outer labia, and that I don't think will ever be fixed, so I really need to get a better saddle for it (the only reason I haven't is because I am considering getting a new commuter bike entirely, which may affect my choices). By the way, have you tried any saddles with cutouts? I tried a lot of saddles that made my entire frontal region, basically everything at the bottom of my pubic bone, numb after a while. Ugh. Eventually I settled on a Serfas woman-specific saddle that has a cutout. It's a little cushier than the extremely hard saddles, although not squooshy. You can find both male and female specific cutout designs. This is the saddle I finally chose: http://www.serfas.com/performance_saddles/TRCW.shtml (which doesn't mean that it would be the one you would choose. Ideally you want to find a bicycle store that will let you return "like-new-condition" saddles after trying them for a week or two.) One other idea -- seat angle. You might try changing the angle *very* slightly, like 1% at a time in either direction, to see if that affects your comfort. >> By burn, do you mean actual abrasions? > > No, just red and irritated with a burning sensation on contact with > undies. Well, that's no good! That sounds like something that won't just go away as you "toughen up," unlike my sitbone issue. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > [explicit biological terminology warning] > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Well, that's no good! That sounds like something that won't just go > away as you "toughen up," unlike my sitbone issue. Thanks, Monique, you gave me tons of good advice. Unfortunately I won't be able to change my saddle for a while (no, I never was "fitted" for one, but I *WILL* be for my next one) since we're really, really broke. But I'm going to try tilting my saddle forward to see if that helps in the mean time. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ >> One other idea -- seat angle. You might try changing the angle >> *very* slightly, like 1% at a time in either direction, to see if [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > we're really, really broke. But I'm going to try tilting my saddle > forward to see if that helps in the mean time. If that doesn't help, try backward. You never know. And make it a very slight adjustment; it will still make a big difference. By the way, I never found anyone to fit me for a saddle, either; I just kept trying different ones till I found one I could live with. Unfortunately, this wasn't a cheap process. I did find a store that would take returns on new-looking saddles within a couple of weeks, but then someone backed over my bike, scuffing up my trial saddle in the process =/ (And totalling my bike, but that's another story.) Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>> One other idea -- seat angle. You might try changing the angle >>> *very* slightly, like 1% at a time in either direction, to see if [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > but then someone backed over my bike, scuffing up my trial saddle in > the process =/ (And totalling my bike, but that's another story.) Yikes! I've found a bike shop that will help me - the gave me free maintenance and tune-ups on the bike I bought from them and they allow you to try out saddles until you find the one that fits. It's just that until DH and I get our finances straightened out (we've finally decided on getting a home equity loan and cutting up all credit cards) I can't afford one right now. I'm going to adjust my saddle forward today before I go for my ride. This saddle never did this to me before, but then I don't think I had it in the middle of the hottest months last year. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > This saddle never did this to me before, but then I don't think I had > it in the middle of the hottest months last year. I think that your bike and saddle needs can change over time, too. I've gotten a lot of chiro and massage work since I first started riding mountain bikes, and my position on the bike has changed, probably because of it. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Unfortunately I won't be able to change my saddle for a while (no, I never > was "fitted" for one, but I *WILL* be for my next one) since we're really, > really broke. But I'm going to try tilting my saddle forward to see if that > helps in the mean time. I have a slip-on gel seat cover that is wonderful. I don't know if they make them anymore, but IIRC it was fairly inexpensive - like $15. You might look into whether or not they make them any more. -L. >> Unfortunately I won't be able to change my saddle for a while (no, I >> never [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -L. I have one of those, but I took it off because it seemed to make it worse since it shifted around on the seat a lot causing even more rubbing of the sensitive area. It did help on my sit bones, however, before they got toughened up enough to not need it. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! > Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > want to use powder before a ride because I figured that would just cake up > and get yucky. Anyone have any advice? Other than various "healing" and "anti-itch" salves (some made specifically for those areas of the feminine anatomy)? They might help, simply by easing the chafing effect of riding. Since I've grown older, I have a problem with a sort of ecxema there in hot weather, and salves seem to help. SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth > Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! > Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > didn't want to use powder before a ride because I figured that would just > cake up and get yucky. Anyone have any advice? You might find this website helpful: http://www.teamestrogen.com/ "Team Estrogen is dedicated to meeting the needs of every woman who wants to ride her bike in comfort and style." (blurb from website) It has various products to prevent the problem that you mention. Yowie > "Team Estrogen is dedicated to meeting the needs of every woman who > wants to ride her bike in comfort and style." (blurb from website) > > It has various products to prevent the problem that you mention. Holy crow - $150 for a pair of shorts? For $150, what I'd expect from a pair of shorts can't be mentioned in a public forum. Chak SignatureI'm a born-again atheist. --Gore Vidal > Holy crow - $150 for a pair of shorts? For $150, what I'd expect > from a pair of shorts can't be mentioned in a public forum. Haha! Well, the most I've paid for a pair of shorts is considerably less than that, but if you're riding your bike enough hours a day, the right shorts can seem priceless. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Holy crow - $150 for a pair of shorts? For $150, what I'd expect >> from a pair of shorts can't be mentioned in a public forum. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > than that, but if you're riding your bike enough hours a day, the > right shorts can seem priceless. Luckily, the padded shorts for under £10 from Tchibo, Lidl or Aldi work well for my nether regions. Good job, really, as Nathan gets the expensive kit... Cheers, helen s > Luckily, the padded shorts for under £10 from Tchibo, Lidl or Aldi > work well for my nether regions. Good job, really, as Nathan gets > the expensive kit... I like the Pearl Izumi shorts in the $60 dollar range (which I've generally found on sale in the $40s). Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Holy crow - $150 for a pair of shorts? For $150, what I'd expect >> from a pair of shorts can't be mentioned in a public forum. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > than that, but if you're riding your bike enough hours a day, the > right shorts can seem priceless. Yeah, the first hour or so that I ride is fine, it's the last half hour that's torture. I could ride for hours more if I had a solution for this problem because I stop for only this reason (not out of breath, not tired, no sore muscles, just a sore ya-ya! ;>). SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > and get yucky. Anyone have any advice? http://www.antimonkeybutt.com/ SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! >Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> Not a woman - sorry! - but I've just reposted an article from several months ago on my bicycle club's web site from several months ago, and will keep the page up for one week. It is a discussion of a rather unusual woman's saddle called the Hamoc, which cured some substantial discomfort from one of our members - the lady shown holding the saddle. This page is: http://www.ocrebels.com/saddle.htm Kim continues to be very happy with the saddle, and endured our good-natured teasing quite well. When I first posted some pictures of it, I described it as "banned in seventeen southern states". She's now riding double centuries (200 mile rides) with it. Art Temporary usercode - to be deleted when spam starts. Use MyBrainHurts at this ISP to reach me > This page is: http://www.ocrebels.com/saddle.htm > > Kim continues to be very happy with the saddle, and endured our > good-natured teasing quite well. When I first posted some pictures > of it, I described it as "banned in seventeen southern states". > She's now riding double centuries (200 mile rides) with it. Sure is odd looking. She says it doesn't get in her way for road riding, but I (of course) wonder about mountain biking, where moving fore and aft of the saddle almost instantly is vitally important. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! > Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > didn't want to use powder before a ride because I figured that would just > cake up and get yucky. Anyone have any advice? Rule 1. Freshly laundered cycle shorts *every day* Rule 2. Antiseptic cream such as Savlon or Germolene (UK names - don't know USA names) liberally applied to the nether regions will help Rule 3. Freshly laundered nether regions *every day*. Rule 4. Saddle fit - vital (for me it's a Terry's Liberator TiLite or Race Lite) Rule 5. Go 'commando' - no undies - skin directly next to shorts. Hope this helps. Basically - following the above I never have problems - even cycling in 40C heat on a loaded touring bike. Cheers, helen s > Rule 1. Freshly laundered cycle shorts *every day* > Rule 2. Antiseptic cream such as Savlon or Germolene (UK names - don't know [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Lite) > Rule 5. Go 'commando' - no undies - skin directly next to shorts. Quoting Helen so that I can say "yes, exactly what she said!" In fact, not just freshly laundered shorts every day, but every ride (I bring a spare pair when I ride to work so that I can have fresh shorts on the ride home). And yes, go commando. It will feel weird at first, but after a while you don't even notice it. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Rule 1. Freshly laundered cycle shorts *every day* >> Rule 2. Antiseptic cream such as Savlon or Germolene (UK names - don't know [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >And yes, go commando. It will feel weird at first, but after a while >you don't even notice it. Just don't go quite as commando as one man did in the Nashville area recently. His bike shorts were chafing him, so he put them in the car and went riding with no pants at all. He ended up under arrest for indecent exposure. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria On 2006-04-26, John F Eldredge penned: > Just don't go quite as commando as one man did in the Nashville area > recently. His bike shorts were chafing him, so he put them in the > car and went riding with no pants at all. He ended up under arrest > for indecent exposure. LOL! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! >> Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Hope this helps. Basically - following the above I never have problems - > even cycling in 40C heat on a loaded touring bike. Checked yes on all of those except the saddle fit and the cream. I think the saddle fit is my main problem and I can't solve it right away so I'm going to try Monique's idea about saddle tilt. SignatureHugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Cheers, helen s >Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! >Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >want to use powder before a ride because I figured that would just cake up >and get yucky. Anyone have any advice? Dear me. What suggestions can I make to relieve the soreness? SignatureDavid Stevenson Storypage: http://blakjak.com/sty_menu.htm Liverpool, England, UK <cat2@blakjak.com> Emails welcome Nanki Poo: SI O+W B 12 Y L+ W++ C+ I T+ A- E H++ V- F Q P+ B+ PA+ PL SC Minke: SI W+Cp B 3 Y L W+ C++ I T A- E H++ V++ F- Q- P B PA+ PL+ SC- >>Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! >>Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dear me. What suggestions can I make to relieve the soreness? Obviously none, that's why it's women only ;-) Tweed >"David Stevenson" <cat2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>>Now I know every guy will get curious and want to read this - but don't! >>>Stop right now!! The following is disgusting!!!! ;> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>>want to use powder before a ride because I figured that would just cake up >>>and get yucky. Anyone have any advice? >> Dear me. What suggestions can I make to relieve the soreness? >Obviously none, that's why it's women only ;-) Y'know, if I really put my mind to it .... SignatureDavid Stevenson Storypage: http://blakjak.com/sty_menu.htm Liverpool, England, UK <cat2@blakjak.com> Emails welcome Nanki Poo: SI O+W B 12 Y L+ W++ C+ I T+ A- E H++ V- F Q P+ B+ PA+ PL SC Minke: SI W+Cp B 3 Y L W+ C++ I T A- E H++ V++ F- Q- P B PA+ PL+ SC- >>"David Stevenson" <cat2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Y'know, if I really put my mind to it .... LOL! Okay, come up with something. Tweed >"David Stevenson" <cat2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>>"David Stevenson" <cat2@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >LOL! Okay, come up with something. Well, now, I'll just go and have a think in the garden. 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