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dnr - 23 Apr 2006 01:44 GMT

And anyone else from Kentucky originally.....just saw in
news Miss Kentucky crowned Miss America and going
on to Miss Universe finals. NMR and I are among those
who can really appreciate how much the pageant has
changed since it's early days, LOL. The swimsuits have
changed, too, not to mention the "talent" competition.

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Sandy - 23 Apr 2006 03:11 GMT

She was crowned Miss USA, not Miss America. Those are separate pageants. I
think Miss America can go on to the Miss World pageant, and Miss USA can go
to the Miss Universe pageant.

I think the Miss USA pageant was always less conservative in its swimsuits,
etc.

Sandy

> And anyone else from Kentucky originally.....just saw in
> news Miss Kentucky crowned Miss America and going
> on to Miss Universe finals. NMR and I are among those
> who can really appreciate how much the pageant has
> changed since it's early days, LOL. The swimsuits have
> changed, too, not to mention the "talent" competition.

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William Hamblen - 23 Apr 2006 04:46 GMT

> She was crowned Miss USA, not Miss America. Those are separate pageants. I
> think Miss America can go on to the Miss World pageant, and Miss USA can go
> to the Miss Universe pageant.

Miss America is suis generis: the winner doesn't go anywhere else. Miss
World was started in the UK by a swimwear manufacturer and Miss Universe
was started in the USA by a swimwear manufacturer. There seems to be
a pattern to this. Miss America was started as a publicity gimmick to
promote Atlantic City and had about a 20 year head start on either. Miss
America has feeder contests with winners of local contests going to state
contests going to the national contest and still tries to cultivate an
amateur image, although the competition is very professionally managed.
The other beauty pagents are more frankly commercial.

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dnr - 23 Apr 2006 05:13 GMT

>> She was crowned Miss USA, not Miss America. Those are separate pageants.
>> I
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> amateur image, although the competition is very professionally managed.
> The other beauty pagents are more frankly commercial.

Well, from this beauty-pageant unhip confused one, congrats anyway
to Kentucky for producing such a beautiful girl. The contests I usually
go to have other criteria: catshows have no talent competition and NO
swimsuits - beauty does count somewhat and good nature counts
bigtime (not biting or hissing the judges is a major plus!), LOL.
I've known some gorgeous cats who would be eleminated in the
first round.....

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Matthew AKA NMR - 23 Apr 2006 07:28 GMT

Thanks for the update I did not get a chance to see it THE DW thinks that
they are all just eye candy for men

>>> She was crowned Miss USA, not Miss America. Those are separate
>>> pageants. I
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> I've known some gorgeous cats who would be eleminated in the
> first round.....

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dnr - 23 Apr 2006 10:22 GMT

> Thanks for the update I did not get a chance to see it THE DW thinks
> that they are all just eye candy for men
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>> I've known some gorgeous cats who would be eleminated in the
>> first round.....

Heh...tell your DW that I am not a man and there is plenty of
eye candy for them elsewhere.....sometimes I do wonder about
the girls' personalities.....i.e.do beautiful females have to make
much less effort socially in general than the nonbeautiful majority?
Some of the beautiful pop and film stars don't seem to have a
whole lot of good judgement, AFAI can tell, LOL.

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Howard C. Berkowitz - 25 Apr 2006 03:48 GMT

Not sure if she's married or not, but SGT Lee Ann Hester, military
police, Kentucky National Guard, ought to be remembered there for, at
the very least, talent. She is the first woman to have been awarded the
Silver Star (the third highest US medal for valor) for direct combat.

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Matthew AKA NMR - 25 Apr 2006 05:54 GMT

Well said Howard

>> And anyone else from Kentucky originally.....just saw in
>> news Miss Kentucky crowned Miss America and going
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> the very least, talent. She is the first woman to have been awarded the
> Silver Star (the third highest US medal for valor) for direct combat.

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