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Oxana - 21 Apr 2006 15:07 GMT Anyone has a British Shorthair ?
Karen - 21 Apr 2006 17:07 GMT No, but if you hum a few...bars.....
> Anyone has a British Shorthair ? wafflycat - 21 Apr 2006 17:30 GMT > Anyone has a British Shorthair ? Well I'm British and I have a few shorthairs, but I do shave my legs & armpits regularly so they are not often seen.
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mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk - 21 Apr 2006 18:53 GMT What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, does he qualify?
christal63 - 21 Apr 2006 19:04 GMT mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk kirjoitti:
> What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, > does he qualify? This is a British Shorthair: http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/british.html
Christine in Finland, posting thru Google at her parents' place
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Apr 2006 19:28 GMT > mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk kirjoitti: >> What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Christine in Finland, posting thru Google at her parents' place Is it just me, or does that first cat on the page look a little wired ... like maybe he's been cadging prescriptions from his vet ...
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Tanada - 24 Apr 2006 00:23 GMT >>mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk kirjoitti: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Is it just me, or does that first cat on the page look a little wired > ... like maybe he's been cadging prescriptions from his vet ... I dunno, but he really needs to calm down, and get a hobby or something. Maybe alligator wrestling....
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Cat Dude - 24 Apr 2006 00:43 GMT >> Is it just me, or does that first cat on the page look a little wired >> ... like maybe he's been cadging prescriptions from his vet ... > > I dunno, but he really needs to calm down, and get a hobby or something. > Maybe alligator wrestling.... That kitty makes me think of my mom's Springer Spaniel, Cali. My brother, my wife, and I go to her place every Sunday, and Nancy and I bring Starbucks for everyone. Cali bugs everybody for tastes of their coffee. Looks like that kitty has been indulging on too much Starbucks:)
jmcquown - 21 Apr 2006 20:53 GMT > mlabofski@yahoo.co.uk kirjoitti: >> What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Christine in Finland, posting thru Google at her parents' place Hey! That looks like Persia except her eyes are green, not gold!
Jill
Adrian A - 21 Apr 2006 19:04 GMT > What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, > does he qualify? Memphis and Pheonix, the cats that own Sandra are both British Shorthairs, *very* beautiful cats.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Apr 2006 19:27 GMT >> What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >> does he qualify? > > Memphis and Pheonix, the cats that own Sandra are both British > Shorthairs, *very* beautiful cats. All cats are beautiful cats =P
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 Apr 2006 20:45 GMT >>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > All cats are beautiful cats =P True! Anyway, judging from the pictures I've seen, "British Shrthairs" are difficult to distinguish from just plain cats. Roundish head, rather cobby body, and they tend to be fairly large - although not like Maine Coons or Norwegian Forest cats - and any kind of markings or coat color is acceptable. (So, if you can't really tell the difference, why bother with a throughbred, when a normal "cat" cat will do as well?)
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Christina Websell - 21 Apr 2006 22:24 GMT >>>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > acceptable. (So, if you can't really tell the difference, why bother with > a throughbred, when a normal "cat" cat will do as well?) You *can* tell the difference. I knew straight away when I saw pics of Memphis & Pheonix that they were pedigree cats. It hit me in the eye. Didn't it you?
Tweed
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Apr 2006 02:40 GMT >>>>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Memphis & Pheonix that they were pedigree cats. It hit me in the eye. > Didn't it you? Not after living with Patches, who was a stray for three years before he adopted me! (He looked EXACTLY like the picture of a British Shorthair in the cat book someone once gave me.) He even had similar markings, the only difference was the scar where he'd had an untreated cat-bite abcess on one ear, before he found me. I think you confuse a "pedigreed" appearance with a "well cared for" look, which Memphis and Phoenix clearly have. Some pedigreed cats (Siamese, Persian, Rex....) DO look drastically different from their hoi-polloi relatives, but others just look like pampered, well-nourished cats, IMO.
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Christina Websell - 22 Apr 2006 21:23 GMT >>>>>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>>>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > adopted me! (He looked EXACTLY like the picture of a British Shorthair > in the cat book someone once gave me.) Well, being a stray doesn't mean he wasn't a pedigree cat, does it?
> I think you confuse a "pedigreed" appearance with a "well cared for" look, > which Memphis and Phoenix clearly have. I don't think I do at all. When I first saw M&P's photos I posted to enquire if they were pure bred cats, and Sandra confirmed that they were. I see lots of pics on the group of very well cared for cats with a mixed background and I do not confuse them with pedigree cats.
Maybe I have "my eye in" as they say. I judge show dogs. I've showed various animals all my life. Mice, rabbits, goats you name it. I know a pedigree cat, too, when I see one.
> Some pedigreed cats (Siamese, Persian, Rex....) DO look drastically > different from their hoi-polloi relatives, but others just look like > pampered, well-nourished cats, IMO. Pure bred British Shorthairs don't look like "ordinary cats" here. They have large wide faces with a shorter nose and they are bigger. Maybe it's different in America. Perhaps your strays look like pedigrees, I wouldn't know about that. Our British strays are not like that, KFC & Boyfriend are typical of the normal non pedigree British cat that has come about through folks not neutering their cats. They are very precious, though.
Tweed
Christine K. - 22 Apr 2006 21:49 GMT >> Not after living with Patches, who was a stray for three years before he >> adopted me! (He looked EXACTLY like the picture of a British Shorthair >> in the cat book someone once gave me.) > > Well, being a stray doesn't mean he wasn't a pedigree cat, does it? A stray may have been a pedigree cat "in the out", but I have always thought that as soon as you no longer can prove the kitty you found is the pedigree cat in question, thru collar tag / tattoo mark / ID chip or whatever, no matter how much of a pedigree he looks and/or behaves like, a stray cat cannot be called a pedigree cat. Or, well, called yes, but not shown in cat shows as one or sold as one. It doesn't have the paperwork or known lineage. Which, of course, doesn't make it any less of a wonderful specimen of the species tho...
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Christina Websell - 22 Apr 2006 22:09 GMT >>> Not after living with Patches, who was a stray for three years before he >>> adopted me! (He looked EXACTLY like the picture of a British Shorthair [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > known lineage. Which, of course, doesn't make it any less of a wonderful > specimen of the species tho... Absolutely. What is being debated here is: I think I can recognise a pedigree cat when I see one - Evelyn thinks not.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Apr 2006 00:18 GMT >>>>Not after living with Patches, who was a stray for three years before he >>>>adopted me! (He looked EXACTLY like the picture of a British Shorthair [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > What is being debated here is: I think I can recognise a pedigree cat when > I see one - Evelyn thinks not. I wasn't making it a personal issue - didn't realize you considered it one! You may very well be able to tell the difference, especially if you've been a cat-show judge. However, I seriously doubt whether that is true of everyone else but me!
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Christina Websell - 23 Apr 2006 01:27 GMT >> Absolutely. >> What is being debated here is: I think I can recognise a pedigree cat >> when I see one - Evelyn thinks not. > > I wasn't making it a personal issue - didn't realize you considered it > one! I don't consider it a personal issue at all, Evelyn. I just felt I needed to point out that I am able to tell the difference between a well-looked after cat and a pedigree one, as you seemed to think I might be confused about it. I'm not. Please don't think that because I've disagreed with something that you said that it means I don't like you. It merely means our opinions differ at this time.
Tweed
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Apr 2006 00:14 GMT >>>>>>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>>>>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Well, being a stray doesn't mean he wasn't a pedigree cat, does it? Not necessarily, but usually if people have paid a fair sum of money for a pedigreed cat, they aren't liekly to simply abandon it. ("Get rid of", maybe - but not without some compensation.)
>>Some pedigreed cats (Siamese, Persian, Rex....) DO look drastically >>different from their hoi-polloi relatives, but others just look like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > have large wide faces with a shorter nose and they are bigger. > Maybe it's different in America. Perhaps it is. Certainly, judging by various discussions we've had here, the average American cat tends to be larger than those in the UK. (You guys seem to consider ten pounds large, whereas here that's just about average - many tip the scales at fifteen, and only when they get closer to the twenty mark do people remark upon their size!)
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Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Apr 2006 02:53 GMT > Perhaps it is. Certainly, judging by various discussions we've had > here, the average American cat tends to be larger than those in the > UK. (You guys seem to consider ten pounds large, whereas here > that's just about average - many tip the scales at fifteen, and only > when they get closer to the twenty mark do people remark upon their > size!) Oscar's 9 pounds, and I think of her as fairly small. A lot of cats in the US are bigger than her.
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Yowie - 23 Apr 2006 00:23 GMT >>>>>>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>>>>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > about through folks not neutering their cats. They are very precious, > though. Having seen 3 'moggies' that were exported here from England ( a friend immigrated here and didn't want to leave her cats behind), the British Moggie looks more like British Shorthair than Australian Moggies. They are stockier, and have rounder, bigger heads and are just 'beefier' all over, and hteir coats seem denser and less 'fluffy'. Her 3 British cats look quite distinct from the two Australian moggies that adopted her later.
I can only assume that someone outside of Britain liked the look of Britsh moggies as opposed to their own moggie type, and started breeding them so as to accentuate the differences. Hundreds of generations later, the breed "British Shorthair" became a distict breed in its own right, and only has a passing simularity with the original stock from which it was bred from.
But still, her British moggies still are recognisably *British*, just not as pronounced as the pure-bred ones.
Yowie
Tish Silberbauer - 22 Apr 2006 02:20 GMT My father's beloved Clawed DePussy (RB) was a pure-bred British short-hair (my father rescued him when he was about 6 years old - DeBussy's former owners were moving into a flat in town and didn't want their cat to clutter their lives any more - very much their loss; stupid people). He was a nice looking cat - solidly built and healthy. He was a real character and was absolutely devoted to my father. He tolerated my step-mother and step-sister, but he came alive when my father was in the room. He lived to about 21 before he succomed to cancer.
Tish
>>>>What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>>does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >why bother with a throughbred, when a normal "cat" cat will >do as well?) Cheryl Perkins - 21 Apr 2006 21:24 GMT >>> What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>> does he qualify? >> >> Memphis and Pheonix, the cats that own Sandra are both British >> Shorthairs, *very* beautiful cats.
> All cats are beautiful cats =P If you say that in the presence of a non-cat person, they tend to be a bit puzzled and point out that in their opinion that scrawny stray with the peculiar fur colours isn't really quite as beautiful as, say, their neighbour's beautiful, well-fed cat with the lovely symmetrical stripes.
But I know what you mean!
I think a British Short Hair, like the American Short Hair, comes in the usual cat-type colours and patterns (but of the more symmetrical variety) and, unlike so many cats, some human has kept track of their ancestors.
My two are Domestic Short Hairs, although until the vet's receptionist put that on their forms, I thought they were your average ordinary or alley cat, or moggie, as I think they say in the UK. 'Domestic Short Hair' sounds so pretentious!
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Christina Websell - 21 Apr 2006 22:16 GMT >>>> What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, >>>> does he qualify? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > cat, or moggie, as I think they say in the UK. 'Domestic Short Hair' > sounds so pretentious! But very politically correct ;-) My two are Domestic Short Hairs too. But really they are moggies which means cats of no known ancestry i.e. "mongrels."
Tweed
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Apr 2006 23:40 GMT > My two are Domestic Short Hairs, although until the vet's > receptionist put that on their forms, I thought they were your > average ordinary or alley cat, or moggie, as I think they say in the > UK. 'Domestic Short Hair' sounds so pretentious! Yeah! I knew next to nothing about cats when I got Oscar. When they said she was a "domestic longhair," I actually thought that was a breed!
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 22 Apr 2006 00:05 GMT > > My two are Domestic Short Hairs, although until the vet's > > receptionist put that on their forms, I thought they were your > > average ordinary or alley cat, or moggie, as I think they say in the > > UK. 'Domestic Short Hair' sounds so pretentious!
> Yeah! I knew next to nothing about cats when I got Oscar. When they > said she was a "domestic longhair," I actually thought that was a > breed! Whenever I take my cats to the vet, I always see "DSH" on the form describing their type. Well, except for Smudge, who has "DMH" or sometimes even "DLH" (medium- and long-haired) on hers. That's what it said on their charts in the shelter, too. I think it's the standard way to describe ordinary moggies in the US.
Joyce
Stormin Mormon - 22 Apr 2006 13:45 GMT I was wondering if it was a specific breed?
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What's a British Shorthair? My cat's British born with short hair, does he qualify?
Cheryl Perkins - 22 Apr 2006 13:55 GMT > I was wondering if it was a specific breed? It is. I think someone posted a link earlier. Like the American short hair, it's one of those breeds that looks 'ordinary' (ie no really unusual feature like Siamese markings or Manx backsides or rex fur) but unlike yer alley cat or moggie, has very symmetrical or totally solid markings matching a certain standard, and generally has a nice solid build (not slight like the oriental-type cats). And someone's been keeping track of who the cat's ancestors were.
I've only seen them in pictures, but they look like handsome attractive cats.
Then again, I don't think I've ever seen a cat I didn't like.
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Christina Websell - 21 Apr 2006 22:10 GMT > Anyone has a British Shorthair ? As far as I know there is only one person on this group who has pedigree British Shorthairs. That's Sandra, maybe she will reply to you.
Tweed
AZ Nomad - 21 Apr 2006 23:56 GMT >Anyone has a British Shorthair ? No, it's amazing. Not one single person anywhere on the planet has such a cat. I wonder why they would give a name to a nonexistant breed?
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Apr 2006 02:41 GMT >>Anyone has a British Shorthair ? > > No, it's amazing. Not one single person anywhere on the planet > has such a cat. I wonder why they would give a name to a nonexistant > breed? P-L-O-N-K!
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Stormin Mormon - 22 Apr 2006 13:45 GMT You know, Baha, that sounds like the gal you were trying to help with the cat imigration. Taking them to the airport, cause the dates of immunization were very specific. I wasn't sure who was in charge of whom. But from the sounds of it, she was definitely in charge of the relationship. You might even say she had him by the British Shorthai....oh, nevermind.
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