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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2006Hal Coyote's autopsy
The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote caught in Central Park a couple of weeks ago. The animal had heartworm (keep up those meds, everybody), and traces of rat poison in his system. It's hard out there, folks. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Make Levees, Not War > The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results > of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's hard out there, folks. I hadn't realised he'd died, last thing I knew I'd thought he'd been relocated. Very sad. Tweed >> The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results >> of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tweed I thought the same thing. Why did they kill him? Why didn't they just leave him alone? He wasn't bothering anyone. Central Park is home to drug dealers, street hustlers (prostitutes) and thieves, but they chose to go after a coyote who had probably been living there without a problem for years. It's sad. We are pushing animals out of their habitats, then unruly humans push other humans out of the areas they chose to be a nice relaxing park, only to have this animal come and try to live and get killed for doing so. So sad. I saw on the news the other night police in Boston trying to get a wild tom turkey across the road into the woods. It wanted to get to the other side (stop with the obvious jokes!) because it's mating season. But why couldn't it get across the road? Because we've cut into the natural habitat with highways and cars. The poor thing was hopping up on dividing walls, flapping its wings and refusing to be 'herded'. Well, you can't herd cats, either, can you? (And yes, I've seen the cat herding video, pretty funny; but I wonder how all those British shorthairs wound up in America LOL) Jill >>> The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results >>> of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I thought the same thing. Why did they kill him? Why didn't they just > leave him alone? He wasn't bothering anyone. I dont' think they killed him. I think he died while they were trying to relocate him. If he had rat poison in his system, I imagine he was scavaging in areas where people put out poison for rats and may not have been long for the world if that kept up. I imagine it's pretty dangerous to eat stuff lying around NY since there ARE so many rats. >>>> The NY Department of Environmental Conservation released the >>>> results of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > have been long for the world if that kept up. I imagine it's pretty > dangerous to eat stuff lying around NY since there ARE so many rats. He died while being relocated, they thought of the stress of being relocated, but wanted to be sure, hence the necropsy. > I dont' think they killed him. I think he died while they were trying > to relocate him. If he had rat poison in his system, I imagine he was > scavaging in areas where people put out poison for rats and may not > have been long for the world if that kept up. I imagine it's pretty > dangerous to eat stuff lying around NY since there ARE so many rats. Rat eats poison, coyote eats easily caught rat, coyote gets rat poison.  SignatureThe night is just the shadow of the Earth. >>> The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results >>> of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I thought the same thing. Why did they kill him? Why didn't they just >leave him alone? He wasn't bothering anyone. They didn't kill him, he died when they were tagging him just prior to releasing him in a new location. The necropsy revealed that he'd ingested rat poison and also had heart worms. >Central Park is home to drug >dealers, street hustlers (prostitutes) and thieves, but they chose to go >after a coyote who had probably been living there without a problem for >years. It's sad. We are pushing animals out of their habitats, then unruly There are no coyotes living in Central Park, if there were or had been they'd have been seen long before now. Based on the earliest sightings of the little guy (a few days prior to his capture), it is believed he traveled there from an area called Westchester or may have even hitched a ride in a flat-bed truck of some sort. (http://www.centralpark.com/news_read.php?nid=67) Also other coyotes most likely would have met the same fate as poor Hal -- ingesting food that had been tainted with rat poison. Though the Parks Dept. has tried to educate folks to stop doing that because of the introduction of our lovely red-tailed hawks (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/palemale/) unfortunately people still do it. And, while there may be drug deals that still take place in the park (who knows), it is not an area frequented by prostitutes. It's a safe area these days, especially compared to what it was like in the 70s. A lot of families, baseball/softball players, rollerbladers, skate boarders, bike riders, joggers, etc., use the park on a daily basis. >humans push other humans out of the areas they chose to be a nice relaxing >park, only to have this animal come and try to live and get killed for doing >so. So sad. Central Park was built/landscaped by people -- in other words it's man-made (http://www.centralparkhistory.com/timeline/timeline_1850_building.html). In terms of animals being evicted from their natural habitats , well, I expect that happened in Manhattan hundreds of years ago at this point. -- Bev A. > They didn't kill him, he died when they were tagging him just prior to > releasing him in a new location. The necropsy revealed that he'd > ingested rat poison and also had heart worms. Warfarin causes bleeding and he was bleeding from his eyeballs by their putting his neck in a noose and a muzzle and bonding his feet - that's the immediate cause of death, not the heart worms. Why did they not look for clotting times and heart worms - that would have been reasonable and considerate. Sounds like sloppy and cruel treatment of a coyote by people who should know better but could care less. Not atypical for New York city. There will be a review because the death was preventable. He was treated way too roughly. And he did not deserve this. If you saw the picture where the look in his eyes was that of one who knew his life was not going to be good. A very sad look in his cage. > >Central Park is home to drug > >dealers, street hustlers (prostitutes) and thieves, but they chose to go > >after a coyote who had probably been living there without a problem for > >years. It's sad. We are pushing animals out of their habitats, then unruly > -- Bev A. Your characterization of Central Park is does not jive with my observations. Are you talking from recent experience then? About the only hustling I saw in Central Park was three card monte. >> They didn't kill him, he died when they were tagging him just prior to >> releasing him in a new location. The necropsy revealed that he'd [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >observations. Are you talking from recent experience then? About the >only hustling I saw in Central Park was three card monte. You messed up the attributions, Treeline. I did not write the above -- that was written by "jmcquown" and part of the post I replied to . I wrote the stuff below in *response* to the above -- in defense of my home town. You can see it if you go back and look closely at my original post -- but I'm putting it here since you seem confused: >Central Park was built/landscaped by people -- in other words it's >man-made [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I expect that happened in Manhattan hundreds of years ago at this >point. >> They didn't kill him, he died when they were tagging him just prior to >> releasing him in a new location. The necropsy revealed that he'd [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >observations. Are you talking from recent experience then? About the >only hustling I saw in Central Park was three card monte. I tried to post this before but copy and pasted the wrong section of my own text... but anyway... I did not write the above -- that was written by "jmcquown" and part of the post I replied to . I wrote the stuff below in *response* to the above -- in defense of my home town. You can see it if you go back and look at my original post -- but I'm putting it here ... >And, while there may be drug deals that still take place in the park >(who knows), it is not an area frequented by prostitutes. It's a safe >area these days, especially compared to what it was like in the 70s. A >lot of families, baseball/softball players, rollerbladers, skate >boarders, bike riders, joggers, etc., use the park on a daily basis. That's confusing. Help me out here with the clarification, okay? I was a bit suprised but now I am confused if it was not you, or were not you. Subjunctive is not working today. Thanks for the attempt at clarification. Let me pursue this since I am confused. This is the post I was respond to. It makes it seem as though you posted that: Here it is straight from Google's mouth: ---------------------start----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bev A. - view profile Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 9:32 pm Email: Bev A. <furs...@no.spam> Groups: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Not yet rated Rating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 5 days (Apr 18, 9:32 pm). On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 03:49:33 -0500, "jmcquown" <jmcqu...@bellsouth.net> wrote: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - >Christina Websell wrote: >>> The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results >>> of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote >>> caught in Central Park a couple of weeks ago. The animal had >>> heartworm (keep up those meds, everybody), and traces of rat poison >>> in his system. >>> It's hard out there, folks. >> I hadn't realised he'd died, last thing I knew I'd thought he'd been >> relocated. Very sad. >> Tweed >I thought the same thing. Why did they kill him? Why didn't they just >leave him alone? He wasn't bothering anyone. They didn't kill him, he died when they were tagging him just prior to releasing him in a new location. The necropsy revealed that he'd ingested rat poison and also had heart worms. -----------snipped the rest---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you see what I mean about the quotation marks, in this case, >, >>, >>>? I thought you wrote: "The necropsy revealed that he'd ingested rat poison and also had heart worms." Usually the paragraphs without quotes are the ones the poster is doing, in this case, you. And I was responding that you are correct but the immediate cause of death was the rough handling. He probably bled to death internally since his blood was thinned from the warfarin or rat poison. But it was the rough handling which ruptured the blood vessels. He would have died in time from the heart worms. The rat poison would have receded and not likely caused his death in the future. Warfarin leaves the body rather quickly as long as one is not bruised to the point where blood vessels are ruptured. His eyeballs showed rupturing probably from the noose around his neck and the muzzle being used too roughly. In other words, typical New York manhandling which the city is famous for. This is so confusing. I need to get another newsreader because Google is making this seem as though you posted all this. So you were defending NYC and it was another poster who made the comment about prostitutes in NYC's Central Park? The other poster, presumably from the South, might not know that Central Park is really quite safe and pleasant with little boats in the pond and people out for a Sunday stroll - at least during the day. It's not too bad at night. I have wondered through there at 3 am, a while ago, and saw no one. Well, I saw Alice from Alice in Wonderland but she had nothing to say, being a big bronze statue. There is only one park in the world that has a statue of Dickens since he and his family have refused all statues except for this one obscure park in Philly. I wanted to talk to Dickens but Alice would do since there were no muggers, police, or prostitutes or anyone in the park but yours truly. In any case, it's a great park with statues of literary figures. It can be dangerous at times. During Puerto Rican Day, gangs of Hispanics went through the park attacking people, which was not such a great way to celebrate Puerto Rican Day. Later, there were legal suits because the police were sitting nearby and did nothing. Interesting city. > That's confusing. Help me out here with the clarification, okay? I was > a bit suprised but now I am confused if it was not you, or were not [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Here it is straight from Google's mouth: There's your problem, Google sucks for news, the best think to do is use a proper newsreader and subscribe to a proper news server, like www.news.individual.net SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >That's confusing. Help me out here with the clarification, okay? I was >a bit suprised but now I am confused if it was not you, or were not >you. Subjunctive is not working today. > >Thanks for the attempt at clarification. Let me pursue this since I am >confused. :-) Stuff happens. Heck, I had to post twice because I copy/pasted the a wrong paragraph from my own post. More throughout... >This is the post I was respond to. It makes it seem as though you >posted that: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >- Hide quoted text - >- Show quoted text - I think Google's "Hide/Show quoted text" features tend to mess things up a bit. It's not the greatest way to read Usenet news. There used to be a free version of Agent (newsreader), and their info says it's part of the same download on this page http://www.forteinc.com/agent/download.php. >Do you see what I mean about the quotation marks, in this case, >, >>, >>>>? > >I thought you wrote: "The necropsy revealed that he'd ingested rat >poison and also had heart worms." I did write that, bit but not the part about prostitutes being in Central Park. >Usually the paragraphs without quotes are the ones the poster is doing, >in this case, you. And I was responding that you are correct but the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >roughly. In other words, typical New York manhandling which the city is >famous for. Well, I think some of the info surrounding this case has been badly communicated by the media. But we really care about the wildlife we do have. Pale Male is a good example of that... average NYers are thrilled to become bird watchers (and protectors/defenders) because of the red-tailed hawks. >This is so confusing. I need to get another newsreader because Google Yep. :-) >So you were defending NYC and it was another poster who made the >comment about prostitutes in NYC's Central Park? Exactly. My post also included links to Central Park information,the Parks website and the history site. >The other poster, >presumably from the South, might not know that Central Park is really I'm not sure where the person is from, and it doesn't make a difference to me. I was sharing info so that folks wouldn't get the wrong idea about such a great park. >quite safe and pleasant with little boats in the pond and people out >for a Sunday stroll - at least during the day. It's not too bad at [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Dickens but Alice would do since there were no muggers, police, or >prostitutes or anyone in the park but yours truly. It's really a lovely place, and has been made quite safe over the last couple of decades. Did you get to the carousel? It's one of my favorite things in the park, makes me feel like a kid again. >In any case, it's a great park with statues of literary figures. It can >be dangerous at times. During Puerto Rican Day, gangs of Hispanics went >through the park attacking people, which was not such a great way to >celebrate Puerto Rican Day. Later, there were legal suits because the >police were sitting nearby and did nothing. Interesting city. "Interesting" is a very good word. :-) Stuff happens when 8 million people live together in an area that's not quite large enough (to say the least). But mostly things here are safe these days. A lot has changed since I was growing up. I've actually lived through all 3 blackouts -- ouch! -- Only old enough to remember the last 2 though. The one in 1977, which was awful, a lot of looting and rioting, just a bad situation all around. Then the last one in 2003, where everyone just took it in stride and sort of turned it into a giant continuous block party. According to my folks, the one in '65 was calm also. It goes in cycles... Oh... and my cats (& d*g) love it here too. :-) -- Bev A. > The NY Department of Environmental COnservation released the results > of the necropsy done on poor Hal, the spunky but ill-fated coyote > caught in Central Park a couple of weeks ago. The animal had > heartworm (keep up those meds, everybody), and traces of rat poison in > his system. especially when your eyeballs bleed because someone put a loop around your throat, a muzzle over your mouth, and held you down to be "tagged" you're "it" for the day and dead he was in bad shape but no doubt the rough handling for tagging him killed him. he may have died anyway but there is little excuse for what they did to him which caused his death. he had a weak heart. i'm not sure how they missed the heartworms but that's another issue. and the blood thinner? that also should be the common blood test for clotting times. rat poison is warfarin for use in humans and quite commonly monitored. what's good is that now, supposedly, they will review the protocols and try not to kill other animals or at least, not hasten their demise |
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